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Re: 175 amp alternator on SM-burned up battery bank.

Alan Leslie
 

Eric,
There is an internal regulator..there has to be othere wise you wouldn't get a constant voltage.
This is how internally regulated alternators work...they run at (in our case) 28 odd volts all the time...the current falls off as the batts get charged....problem with that is that over a long running time (like we motored 54 hours from Noumea to Port Vila last week) it stays at 28 odd volts and this will lead to the batteries gassing..i.e. boiling off electrolyte...too much of this will eventually kill VRLA batteries (like AGM or sealed calcium etc).

What we need is to modify the alternator to remove the internal regulator...which is not so easy on these Leece Neville / Prestolite alternators as they are N-type, (which means the reg is on the negative side) and wire an external 3 stage reg. External regs are nearly ALL P-Type.
I'm having some discussion now with a tech from Leece Neville about how to do this.

There's nothing wrong with the Balmar external regs...but my choice would be Next Step from AmplePower...they make a number of different types, but the scenario for most (including Balmar) is :

1. Reg off when engine starts so no load on the alternator.
2. After 30 secs, reg gently loads up the alternator until its at either full output, or the max the battery bank will accept.
3. This "full" output current continues until the voltage reaches the absorption voltage (preset) say 28.8 Volts for a 24v bank.
4. the reg slowly backs off the field drive to the alternator to maintain the voltage at the absorption level
5. After a preset time or when current has reached a preset percentage (say 5-10%) of the banks Ah capacity, the reg switches to float...approx. 26.6 V

This ensures that the house batteries are properly charged and prevents gassing.

This is the way the Doplhin chargers work also...so, much better to charge the batts with the genset than the engine in it's standard configuration.

When I get all this figured out with this peculiar N-reg Leece Neville alternator, I'll post the details so everyone can do it.

I don't like the idea of the batteries sitting at 28.8V for days...it's not good for them !

Cheers
Alan
SV ELYSE SM437

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I had my alternator checked at a very excellent alternator shop and the
owner showed me what happens as it runs. There is no internal regulation.
However he said as the battery becomes more charged the resistance of the
bank increases and the alternator puts out less and less amps . It has a
constant output of about 28.5 volts. He said the Balmar smart regulator is a
waste of money -and he sells them.





I had no problems with this alternator with my first set of batteries for 4
years. I only changed the batteries after a lightning strike.



My current burned out battery bank must have been caused by the charger. I
will test it when I get my new batteries next week.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite




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Re: [Amel] Re: Eberspacher heater

Joachim
 

Hallo Dieter

hier die Anleitung !!!

wo läßt du den Motor überholen ? Meiner hat 5100 h und läuft prima ohne Ölverlust am Kurbelwellenausgang könnte aber ach kommen

LG
Joachim




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Von: INUS - BUSCH <inusbusch@yahoo.de>
An: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Gesendet: 12:34 Dienstag, 4.Juni 2013
Betreff: Re: [Amel] Re: Eberspacher heater



 
Hallo Joachim,

an dem trouble shooting manual bin ich auch interessiert. und Danke für deine Telnr, hab sie mir
notiert. Im Moment brauche ich keine Motortipps, weil der Perkins seit gestern draußen ist.
Mfg
Dieter

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Von: shivajogi <shivajogi@yahoo.de>
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Gesendet: 12:07 Dienstag, 4.Juni 2013
Betreff: [Amel] Re: Eberspacher heater


 
Hy Shea
if have an original fron Ebersbächer trouble shooting manual in german
if you give me your E-Mail Adress i can scan it and send it to you.
it has help me to repair my by my self and now it works fantastik

regads
Joachim

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Shea" <gmshea@...> wrote:

My Sharki has a non-working Eberspacher heater. I am in the west of Provence and have heard various stories including taking it out of the boat and sending it to Germany. Does anyone have any experience in getting that sort of thing done in the western Med. I have the phone number of the agent in Paris but before I took that route, I was wondering if anyone had encountered this problem in this part of the world? The previous owner said it was the fuel pump and it seems to me that if I could get my hands on one I could switch it out, if I could return it if that was not the problem


Greg Shea
Cap des Isles Sharki 133.
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175 amp alternator on SM-burned up battery bank.

Eric Freedman
 

I had my alternator checked at a very excellent alternator shop and the
owner showed me what happens as it runs. There is no internal regulation.
However he said as the battery becomes more charged the resistance of the
bank increases and the alternator puts out less and less amps . It has a
constant output of about 28.5 volts. He said the Balmar smart regulator is a
waste of money -and he sells them.





I had no problems with this alternator with my first set of batteries for 4
years. I only changed the batteries after a lightning strike.



My current burned out battery bank must have been caused by the charger. I
will test it when I get my new batteries next week.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite




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Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

karkauai
 

100 to 150,000 Euros


________________________________
From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@hotmail.com>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft



 
The symbol for Euro is €,

/Annsofie

Skickat från min iPad

5 jun 2013 kl. 00:01 skrev "Ric" <ric@kitchenmagic.net>:

I have an outstanding santorin that needs nothing, but i dont know what KC currency is. Czech?

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Joerg Steffen" <joerg.steffen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi amelowners

after owning and sailing different boats in the past 30 years i plan do buy a amel as soon as possible.
Because my wife and i don`t plan to cross the pacific a model of 46 ft will be enough for us.

In the past in build 2 yachts (v.d Stadt 40 and Reinke 43) with my own hands so I have the skills, the place and the maschines for a major refit.

I look for a boot with a price of 100 - 150 K€, will put it in my private shipyard for 2-3 years and start cruising in the Med and the atlantik.

Do you know an such an Amel for sale ?

Which type of amel would you recommend ?

Where are typicall problems of old amels (not only the vinyl linning )

Experiences concerning spare parts, especially for the amel specific parts like "Saildrive", electr. winches etc. ?

Actually I think on a santorin, do you thinks this would be a good choice ?

Many thanks, best regards
Joerg Steffen
Just now onboard a low quality 2007er Bavaria 37

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Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

tresliebres
 

Hello Joerg, if you seem sufficient 41 feet I have for sale my Amel Euros 41
# 240 Gran Roque 1978. The boat is newly restored. New paint on hull and
deck, inside reupholstering and changing pistons and seals in the engine. It
has a good electronics including autopilot and radar, and wind turbine. The
hull is an Amel, in perfect condition. The boat is in Sancti Petri, Cadiz,
and can send as many pictures and videos you want. Price 34.000 . A
greeting


Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

The symbol for Euro is €,

/Annsofie

Skickat från min iPad

5 jun 2013 kl. 00:01 skrev "Ric" <ric@kitchenmagic.net>:

I have an outstanding santorin that needs nothing, but i dont know what KC currency is. Czech?

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Joerg Steffen" <joerg.steffen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi amelowners

after owning and sailing different boats in the past 30 years i plan do buy a amel as soon as possible.
Because my wife and i don`t plan to cross the pacific a model of 46 ft will be enough for us.

In the past in build 2 yachts (v.d Stadt 40 and Reinke 43) with my own hands so I have the skills, the place and the maschines for a major refit.

I look for a boot with a price of 100 - 150 K€, will put it in my private shipyard for 2-3 years and start cruising in the Med and the atlantik.

Do you know an such an Amel for sale ?

Which type of amel would you recommend ?

Where are typicall problems of old amels (not only the vinyl linning )

Experiences concerning spare parts, especially for the amel specific parts like "Saildrive", electr. winches etc. ?

Actually I think on a santorin, do you thinks this would be a good choice ?

Many thanks, best regards
Joerg Steffen
Just now onboard a low quality 2007er Bavaria 37






Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!

karkauai
 

I just checked out that prior message and apparantly that 40mf 450V capacitor link has changed.  The rest of the links are still good.  Please contact John Buchanan at Eurton...his contact info is in the post.  He was very helpful and I'm sure can get you what you need.
No relationship, just good service and had what I needed in stock.
Kent


From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.com>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!



HeyDrew,
Check out this post where I put the links to the capacitors.  Probably not smart as the links could change.  This company had all of them at a reasonable price and got them to me in a few days.
Message #11503
Kent
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:


 
Hi,
Could you please post or send the capacitor list for the Clima units. I too need to pick up spares before returning to the boat in July.
Drew Gaffney
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA





Dodger

Eric Freedman
 

As a ps to your dodger work.

I had my canvas man add zippers to the underside of the dodger where the support bars are located. If I want to remove the dodger, I just unzip zippers and remove the two screws holding the bolt rope in place.



I also added loops of webbing on either side of the rear and side weather clothes. If the zippers break as they did in the hurricane, I can just tie the weather clothes together.

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Kent-your back





Wow! That's a bit more surgery than I need Eric...not a billionaire anyway. Not sure I want to regain that inch I've lost either...I'd HAVE to do that dodger raising project I've been putting off.

Amazing what medicine can do now, isn't it? Hope Obamacare doesn't sail it onto a reef. Sorry, couldn't help myself...remember, I'm currently drugged. No more political comments, I promise.
Kent
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Sailorman <kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

Hi Kent,

The Texas Back institute replaced 4 vertebrae, with manmade ones, in my friends back. It is the only hospital licensed to replace 4 in the USA.

He was in constant pain for years. 2 days later, he was walking and 1 ½ inches taller.

Check it out. My friend’s father is a multi billionaire he can afford any hospital in the world.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!

Hi Drew et al,
Will do, but going to be a few days. Just had 5 1/2 hrs of back surgery today, doing well, already home. I think I ruptured the disc when twisted up under the dinette working on the salon AC in March. This is my fourth time having my lower back worked on...hope I'll get another several years out of it so I can get out there and follow your wakes.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> > wrote:

Hi,
Could you please post or send the capacitor list for the Clima units. I too need to pick up spares before returning to the boat in July.
Drew Gaffney
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA





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[Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54

Alan Leslie
 

oops...didn't see the @ issue....
gamelectronicsinc (at) juno (dot) com

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k" <divanz620@...> wrote:

Hi Eric,

Here he is :

gamelectronicsinc@...

This is what he told me :

The Split Lead SSB antenn is priced at $ 465.00 plus shipping. We have found the most cost effective shipping is via US Postal Priority Mail International wich wouls cost approximately $ 75.00 with delivery in 6-10 days. We aslo can ship via FedEx but the cost is considerably higher. We accept either Master Card or Visa.

The antenna is designed for stay diameters between 1/4" and 7/16" and requires 34' of space on the selected stay. It is aupplied with a 15' long lead wire(GTO15) for connection to your tuner. I have attached some professional and consumer comments on this antenna for your consideration.

Thanks for your interest in our products. We look forward to hearing from you.

Ed Russell
GAM Electronics Inc
Manchester, NH
E-mail: gamelectronicsinc@...


Cheers
Alan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Sailorman <kimberlite@> wrote:

HI do you have a contact for him?

I am in the next town.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of murray k. seidel
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54





I think that all of you are wasting your time re the ssb antenna.I put a GAM antenna on over my backstay. There are two wires in it, absolutely watertight, no problems with salt water. You can hirea n electronics tech to adjust your tuner. To install, simply slide it up your backstay with small interval wire ties, and works better that the salt encrusted backstay and requires no interruption of the stay. Tuner is on shelf starboard side of stern lazzarette. Murray Seidel. Sundance 349. Sundance is now in Oyster Bay owned by Stephen Lees. He had a great 3 ½ day run from Wrightsville Beach, N.C. to oyster Bay. The boats new name is SEQUEL.

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54

I am using the starbord backstay. There is an "ideal" length for the antenna, seems like I remember 23 ft? That leaves plenty of room to put the lower insulator high enough to keep it out of reach. You just don't want to be touching it when transmitting.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On May 30, 2013, at 8:43 AM, "jsrogers47" <jsrogers@ <mailto:jsrogers%40charter.net> <mailto:jsrogers%40charter.net> > wrote:



I will concede to Eric regarding his experience using a whip antena to transmit from Lisbon to Canada. Another downside to using the mizzen stay as an antenna is that it is hard to resist grabbing on to it as a hand hold.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "kimberlite" <kimberlite@> wrote:

I have been using the factory installed whip antenna for the last 10 years . I have spoken to my weather steerer Herb from France, Lisbon and across the Atlantic. He is Located in Canada.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Super Maramu #376





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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54





Regarding the SSB installation, my aft missen stay with a insolator is my antenna. My understanding is that the longer the antenna the better. I have used it for sending and receiving email via Sailmail using their Rocky Hill, NC station which is over 1000 miles and it works fine. One note of importance is to run the antenna lead cable in PVC conduit and stand it off from the stay as it follows the stay to a point of attachment above the insolator. Otherwise radio interferrance will enter the stay and the other boat wiring.

John S. Rogers
SM #105 Its Good
Northeast coast, USA

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Anne and John Hollamby " <annejohnholl@> wrote:

Hello Peter, Many years ago I crewed on a yacht doing the ARC and it had an Icom with the fibre glass antenna. When we were half way across the Atlantic Andrew Bishop, who now runs the ARC, was stuck by the gybing boom and knocked unconscious. We got him down below and when the net came on his father called up for medical advice. This was to put him in his bunk and get him checked when we got to Barbados.
A short while later we heard Cornell talking with his office in the UK trying to get media coverage for the ARC’s life saving advice! The skipper, Andrews father, then had to call his wife in the UK over the short wave link to tell her that there was nothing to worry about in case she read something in the press about her son’s alleged perilous medical condition. This was all done at long range over the fibreglass antenna so I had no concerns about the one on my boat. I would have grave doubts about the competence of your adviser. When the installation is complete get an amateur radio operator to contact anyone at least 1000 miles away for a radio check to make sure you have a good installation and put your mind at rest.
Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319 Malta

From: Peter Forbes
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] SSB installation on Amel 54


Richard,

I finally bough my dream Amel 54 (hull no 35) from an Italian Rudi Peroni in Rhodes last week.

I too am installing Icom 801 SSB. I was told the 2.4m long whip antenna was only for receiving the DSC reply to a distress call and the main antenna for tx/rx should be a separate either triticale or back stay long antenna. Is that not correct.

The Icom 801 is just a marinised version of Icom 802.

Thanks for your help earlier too.

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730
mailto:ppsforbes%40gmail.com

On 28 May 2013, at 03:00, Richard03801 <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi you need to mount the tuner in starboard stern so you can get to the ground foil. Best to use the whip Antenna. Next the back stay. Using the triact means running a very long wire = lost power and poor reception.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On May 24, 2013, at 9:22, lior 555 <mailto:lior246%40gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

I bought an ICOM M802 with tuner AT-140, Pactor modem and I would like to
install it on the boat.
Maybe someone could help me with a few questions.
I would like to use the antenna between the mizzen and main mast. Would you
advice it?
Can someone tell me where I should place the tuner and where is the best
place to install the main unit?

Thanks in advance for your help
Lior

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Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!

karkauai
 

HeyDrew,
Check out this post where I put the links to the capacitors. Probably not smart as the links could change. This company had all of them at a reasonable price and got them to me in a few days.
Message #11503
Kent
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:

Hi,
Could you please post or send the capacitor list for the Clima units. I too need to pick up spares before returning to the boat in July.
Drew Gaffney
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA


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Re: [Amel] Kent-your back

karkauai
 

Wow! That's a bit more surgery than I need Eric...not a billionaire anyway. Not sure I want to regain that inch I've lost either...I'd HAVE to do that dodger raising project I've been putting off.

Amazing what medicine can do now, isn't it? Hope Obamacare doesn't sail it onto a reef. Sorry, couldn't help myself...remember, I'm currently drugged. No more political comments, I promise.
Kent
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Sailorman <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Hi Kent,

The Texas Back institute replaced 4 vertebrae, with manmade ones, in my friends back. It is the only hospital licensed to replace 4 in the USA.

He was in constant pain for years. 2 days later, he was walking and 1 ½ inches taller.

Check it out. My friend’s father is a multi billionaire he can afford any hospital in the world.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!

Hi Drew et al,
Will do, but going to be a few days. Just had 5 1/2 hrs of back surgery today, doing well, already home. I think I ruptured the disc when twisted up under the dinette working on the salon AC in March. This is my fourth time having my lower back worked on...hope I'll get another several years out of it so I can get out there and follow your wakes.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> > wrote:

Hi,
Could you please post or send the capacitor list for the Clima units. I too need to pick up spares before returning to the boat in July.
Drew Gaffney
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA


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Kent-your back

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Kent,

The Texas Back institute replaced 4 vertebrae, with manmade ones, in my friends back. It is the only hospital licensed to replace 4 in the USA.

He was in constant pain for years. 2 days later, he was walking and 1 ½ inches taller.

Check it out. My friend’s father is a multi billionaire he can afford any hospital in the world.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!





Hi Drew et al,
Will do, but going to be a few days. Just had 5 1/2 hrs of back surgery today, doing well, already home. I think I ruptured the disc when twisted up under the dinette working on the salon AC in March. This is my fourth time having my lower back worked on...hope I'll get another several years out of it so I can get out there and follow your wakes.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> > wrote:

Hi,
Could you please post or send the capacitor list for the Clima units. I too need to pick up spares before returning to the boat in July.
Drew Gaffney
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA




Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!

karkauai
 

Hi Drew et al,
Will do, but going to be a few days. Just had 5 1/2 hrs of back surgery today, doing well, already home. I think I ruptured the disc when twisted up under the dinette working on the salon AC in March. This is my fourth time having my lower back worked on...hope I'll get another several years out of it so I can get out there and follow your wakes.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:22 AM, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:

Hi,
Could you please post or send the capacitor list for the Clima units. I too need to pick up spares before returning to the boat in July.
Drew Gaffney
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA




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Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!

karkauai
 

Ahhh, the joy if fixing something yourself! Probably saved yourself a couple hundred bucks! You da MAN!
On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com> wrote:


Dear Bill, Kent & Jason,

Thank you very much for your input:

The aft unit (compressor not kicking in) was because a wire got loose (after I looked at it on Sunday). So now it is working again - Using a volt meter (on micro microfarad I also saw the 3 capacitators were not good) I have some coming. So was not that obvious.

The forward unit (no longer blowing cold air and freezing up) was due to poor ventilation and not running the fan on high speed (a neighbor/boat owner who work on Air Condionning said just like Bill) told me I should run the fan on high and adjust the thermostats. He checked the capacitators they were showing the proper microfarad rating.

I also went to home depot and bought some filter (to cut to size - usually for window units) which I am going to install

So again, as always thanks for your precious input! Feels nice to have full A/C again!

Hope you have a great day, sincerely, Alexandre

--- On Mon, 6/3/13, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> wrote:

From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Air conditioning problem – NEED HELP!
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 3, 2013, 4:08 PM



Alex,

The A/C will ice-up if the fan is blowing too slow. My experience is that you need to run them at high speed and adjust the thermostat next to the fan speed when it gets too cold.

Install your new fan capscitors, run on high speed fan and see if this clears up your issues.

Bill
BeBe
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Oops. Sent that b4 I was done.

I have a list of replacement capacitors and relays if that's what is wrong. It is unlikely that it is the compressor. I had a refrigeration guy tell me I needed a new one, only to find the bad capacitor easily myself.

It's possible that it is a low refrigerant level, but I think you need special equipment to test and replace that. Check the capacitors and relays first. By then you'll have answers from those smarter than I.

Also, check the messages by searching for A/C or Climma. There are several threads about trouble shooting. I think it was Danny on Ocean Pearl who posted some pics in the photos section that are also helpful.

Good luck and let us know what you find.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

The aft unit was working very weak, only 2 of the 3 speed (will order some capacitator), and there was a strange smell, I suspect I was loosing the R134a â€" now I don't hear the compressor kicking it at all (only the fan), so it doesn't cool down the cabin at all.

Why does the compressor not kick in anymore? Is this because there is no more R134a refrigerant?

How can I add more R134a refrigerant? I will see if this leaks again (and cool down the cabin again).

The forward unit has all 3 speed working, was extremely cold, so cold there was ice on the coil (of the compressor) â€" but now it seems it can not cool down the forward room… is this because the outside temperature is too high or something else (may be the ice on the coil).

Also, why do I have ice on the coil of that unit (and only that one)?

Thankfully, the salon unit is ok with all 3 speeds.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook - Texas - USA



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[Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Eric,

Here he is :

gamelectronicsinc@juno.com

This is what he told me :

The Split Lead SSB antenn is priced at $ 465.00 plus shipping. We have found the most cost effective shipping is via US Postal Priority Mail International wich wouls cost approximately $ 75.00 with delivery in 6-10 days. We aslo can ship via FedEx but the cost is considerably higher. We accept either Master Card or Visa.

The antenna is designed for stay diameters between 1/4" and 7/16" and requires 34' of space on the selected stay. It is aupplied with a 15' long lead wire(GTO15) for connection to your tuner. I have attached some professional and consumer comments on this antenna for your consideration.

Thanks for your interest in our products. We look forward to hearing from you.

Ed Russell
GAM Electronics Inc
Manchester, NH
E-mail: gamelectronicsinc@juno.com


Cheers
Alan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

HI do you have a contact for him?

I am in the next town.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of murray k. seidel
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54





I think that all of you are wasting your time re the ssb antenna.I put a GAM antenna on over my backstay. There are two wires in it, absolutely watertight, no problems with salt water. You can hirea n electronics tech to adjust your tuner. To install, simply slide it up your backstay with small interval wire ties, and works better that the salt encrusted backstay and requires no interruption of the stay. Tuner is on shelf starboard side of stern lazzarette. Murray Seidel. Sundance 349. Sundance is now in Oyster Bay owned by Stephen Lees. He had a great 3 ½ day run from Wrightsville Beach, N.C. to oyster Bay. The boats new name is SEQUEL.

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54

I am using the starbord backstay. There is an "ideal" length for the antenna, seems like I remember 23 ft? That leaves plenty of room to put the lower insulator high enough to keep it out of reach. You just don't want to be touching it when transmitting.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

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On May 30, 2013, at 8:43 AM, "jsrogers47" <jsrogers@... <mailto:jsrogers%40charter.net> <mailto:jsrogers%40charter.net> > wrote:



I will concede to Eric regarding his experience using a whip antena to transmit from Lisbon to Canada. Another downside to using the mizzen stay as an antenna is that it is hard to resist grabbing on to it as a hand hold.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "kimberlite" <kimberlite@> wrote:

I have been using the factory installed whip antenna for the last 10 years . I have spoken to my weather steerer Herb from France, Lisbon and across the Atlantic. He is Located in Canada.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Super Maramu #376





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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: SSB installation on Amel 54





Regarding the SSB installation, my aft missen stay with a insolator is my antenna. My understanding is that the longer the antenna the better. I have used it for sending and receiving email via Sailmail using their Rocky Hill, NC station which is over 1000 miles and it works fine. One note of importance is to run the antenna lead cable in PVC conduit and stand it off from the stay as it follows the stay to a point of attachment above the insolator. Otherwise radio interferrance will enter the stay and the other boat wiring.

John S. Rogers
SM #105 Its Good
Northeast coast, USA

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Anne and John Hollamby " <annejohnholl@> wrote:

Hello Peter, Many years ago I crewed on a yacht doing the ARC and it had an Icom with the fibre glass antenna. When we were half way across the Atlantic Andrew Bishop, who now runs the ARC, was stuck by the gybing boom and knocked unconscious. We got him down below and when the net came on his father called up for medical advice. This was to put him in his bunk and get him checked when we got to Barbados.
A short while later we heard Cornell talking with his office in the UK trying to get media coverage for the ARC’s life saving advice! The skipper, Andrews father, then had to call his wife in the UK over the short wave link to tell her that there was nothing to worry about in case she read something in the press about her son’s alleged perilous medical condition. This was all done at long range over the fibreglass antenna so I had no concerns about the one on my boat. I would have grave doubts about the competence of your adviser. When the installation is complete get an amateur radio operator to contact anyone at least 1000 miles away for a radio check to make sure you have a good installation and put your mind at rest.
Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319 Malta

From: Peter Forbes
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] SSB installation on Amel 54


Richard,

I finally bough my dream Amel 54 (hull no 35) from an Italian Rudi Peroni in Rhodes last week.

I too am installing Icom 801 SSB. I was told the 2.4m long whip antenna was only for receiving the DSC reply to a distress call and the main antenna for tx/rx should be a separate either triticale or back stay long antenna. Is that not correct.

The Icom 801 is just a marinised version of Icom 802.

Thanks for your help earlier too.

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730
mailto:ppsforbes%40gmail.com

On 28 May 2013, at 03:00, Richard03801 <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi you need to mount the tuner in starboard stern so you can get to the ground foil. Best to use the whip Antenna. Next the back stay. Using the triact means running a very long wire = lost power and poor reception.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On May 24, 2013, at 9:22, lior 555 <mailto:lior246%40gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

I bought an ICOM M802 with tuner AT-140, Pactor modem and I would like to
install it on the boat.
Maybe someone could help me with a few questions.
I would like to use the antenna between the mizzen and main mast. Would you
advice it?
Can someone tell me where I should place the tuner and where is the best
place to install the main unit?

Thanks in advance for your help
Lior

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Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

Joerg Steffen <joerg.steffen@...>
 

Please send more information

regards

joerg steffen



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From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft



 
I am the owner of an Amel Mango built in1980 .I bought her in 1994 since them the boat has been maintained by professional staff, and today is in perfect condition to sail anywhere. Just 1 month ago the boat has been in the shipyard carrying out a refit. We are planning to sail it in the coming months by the Baleares islands in the wst Med. After that I am will be retired and that is the reason for selling it. The price could be in the range of 120.000€. The boat is moored at Alicante , East of Spain.
Let me know if you are interested to provide you full information.
Regards,
Luis
Amel Mango Aloysius.
 

________________________________
Luis I. González de Vallejo


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De: Joerg Steffen <joerg.steffen@yahoo.com>
Para: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: Martes 4 de junio de 2013 22:44
Asunto: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

 

Hi amelowners

after owning and sailing different boats in the past 30 years i plan do buy a amel as soon as possible.
Because my wife and i don`t plan to cross the pacific a model of 46 ft  will be enough for us.

In the past in build 2 yachts (v.d Stadt 40 and Reinke 43) with my own hands so I have the skills, the place  and the maschines for a major refit.

I look for a boot with a price of 100 - 150 K€, will put it in my private shipyard for 2-3 years and start cruising in the Med  and the atlantik.

Do you know an such an Amel for sale ?

Which type of amel would you recommend ?

Where are typicall problems of old amels (not only the vinyl linning  )

Experiences concerning spare parts, especially for the amel specific parts like "Saildrive", electr. winches etc. ?

Actually I think on a santorin, do you thinks this would be a good choice ?

Many thanks, best regards
Joerg Steffen
Just now onboard  a low quality  2007er  Bavaria 37

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Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

I am the owner of an Amel Mango built in1980 .I bought her in 1994 since them the boat has been maintained by professional staff, and today is in perfect condition to sail anywhere. Just 1 month ago the boat has been in the shipyard carrying out a refit. We are planning to sail it in the coming months by the Baleares islands in the wst Med. After that I am will be retired and that is the reason for selling it. The price could be in the range of 120.000€. The boat is moored at Alicante , East of Spain.
Let me know if you are interested to provide you full information.
Regards,
Luis
Amel Mango Aloysius.
 


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De: Joerg Steffen <joerg.steffen@yahoo.com>
Para: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: Martes 4 de junio de 2013 22:44
Asunto: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

 

Hi amelowners

after owning and sailing different boats in the past 30 years i plan do buy a amel as soon as possible.
Because my wife and i don`t plan to cross the pacific a model of 46 ft  will be enough for us.

In the past in build 2 yachts (v.d Stadt 40 and Reinke 43) with my own hands so I have the skills, the place  and the maschines for a major refit.

I look for a boot with a price of 100 - 150 K€, will put it in my private shipyard for 2-3 years and start cruising in the Med  and the atlantik.

Do you know an such an Amel for sale ?

Which type of amel would you recommend ?

Where are typicall problems of old amels (not only the vinyl linning  )

Experiences concerning spare parts, especially for the amel specific parts like "Saildrive", electr. winches etc. ?

Actually I think on a santorin, do you thinks this would be a good choice ?

Many thanks, best regards
Joerg Steffen
Just now onboard  a low quality  2007er  Bavaria 37


Re: [Amel] looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

Ric <ric@...>
 

I have an outstanding santorin that needs nothing, but i dont know what KC currency is. Czech?

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Jun 4, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Joerg Steffen" <joerg.steffen@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi amelowners

after owning and sailing different boats in the past 30 years i plan do buy a amel as soon as possible.
Because my wife and i don`t plan to cross the pacific a model of 46 ft will be enough for us.

In the past in build 2 yachts (v.d Stadt 40 and Reinke 43) with my own hands so I have the skills, the place and the maschines for a major refit.

I look for a boot with a price of 100 - 150 K€, will put it in my private shipyard for 2-3 years and start cruising in the Med and the atlantik.

Do you know an such an Amel for sale ?

Which type of amel would you recommend ?

Where are typicall problems of old amels (not only the vinyl linning )

Experiences concerning spare parts, especially for the amel specific parts like "Saildrive", electr. winches etc. ?

Actually I think on a santorin, do you thinks this would be a good choice ?

Many thanks, best regards
Joerg Steffen
Just now onboard a low quality 2007er Bavaria 37

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looking for a second hand amel until 46 ft

Joerg Steffen <joerg.steffen@...>
 

Hi amelowners


after owning and sailing different boats in the past 30 years i plan do buy a amel as soon as possible.
Because my wife and i don`t plan to cross the pacific a model of 46 ft  will be enough for us.

In the past in build 2 yachts (v.d Stadt 40 and Reinke 43) with my own hands so I have the skills, the place  and the maschines for a major refit.

I look for a boot with a price of 100 - 150 K€, will put it in my private shipyard for 2-3 years and start cruising in the Med  and the atlantik.

Do you know an such an Amel for sale ?

Which type of amel would you recommend ?

Where are typicall problems of old amels (not only the vinyl linning  )

Experiences concerning spare parts, especially for the amel specific parts like "Saildrive", electr. winches etc. ?

Actually I think on a santorin, do you thinks this would be a good choice ?

Many thanks, best regards
Joerg Steffen
Just now onboard  a low quality  2007er  Bavaria 37