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[Amel] Re: Sun awning for a Super Maramu

Scott
 

Hi Kent, Denny, and all else who took the time and thought to reply - thank you. Kent - can you please post pics of your awning, as well as bimini/dodger. It will be great to have an idea in mind to start with. Thanks again. Scott

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Mine have side panels that can be rolled up on the shady side and down on the sunny side. I can use just one, two, or all three panels. The entire awning takes one person a little over thirty min to install or take down. Going forward requires that you squeeze around the dodger but I can walk on the cabin tops with just a little stoop. Be sure to incorporate a zipper at the exit points on either side of the cockpit.

In the cockpit there is plenty of room to stand as the dodger canvas is stowed.

Even if I'm only going to be somewhere a short time I often put up the awning over the cockpit (from main to mizzen...that alone makes a big difference.

I'll try to post a pic or two.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi don't know your location in the Caibb. There is a very good canvas shop in Old English Harbor that does very good work. You may find one in Trinidad. As others have written find a craftsman that has done them before. You've got 3 or 4 halyards to use to support it. Best is to stay above the boom so you can walk below the cover.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:00, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

We have a Sunbrella cover, 2-piece, that goes from main mast to back-stays and includes a water collector that goes thru a filter and into the water tank. We can collect several hundred liters per hr in a typical tropcial downpour. I think the size of the cover and the normal stretch of the material make it impossible to get a good fit without some tweaking by the craftsman. For even small pieces of Bimini, direct measurement has been necessary. Use the pictures to decide what you want, but then have it made by a craftsman, on site.
Drew
SY Revelation SM390
On the hard-Krabi TH

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Scott" <atioceania@> wrote:

We are wanting to fabricate a full awning for our Super Maramu, and happen at present to be in a western Caribbean backwater without a local canvas shop. Does anyone out there have plans/specifications/blueprints for an awning for an SM, and perhaps also know of a good canvas maker who can possibly ship to us? Thank you.
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Re: [Amel] Marina for winter in Greece or Turquie

Pitugolf Yahoo <pitugolf@...>
 

Thank you so much Rink :)

Maria Geiger
S.Y. PITU SM #148



Le 8 juin 2013 à 08:25, Rink de Haan <rinkdehaan@...> a écrit :

Hello Maria,

We can share some of iur experiences. We stayed in Didim, Leros and Aghios Nikolos. All of them are fine marinas. Crete has the best climate for the winter and is a lovely island. The marina is close to the attractive town and is not expensive. Maintenance facilities are not that good. Didim is a new and very good marina and has execellent maintenance facilities. For the village you have to take the mini bus. Atmosphere is okay, but not cosy. In summer expensive, but the offer winter packages. Turkey is also very beautiful so you have acccess to many interseting places. Leros is also a good marina. You can walk to the village which is interesting, but doesn't offer much after you have seen it once or twice. And it is an island which is also beautiful but small and with limited connection facilities.
On the Turkish coast there are plenty of wintering facilities. You could also consider Kusadasi, Marmaris, Göcek and others. Many of them have wintering contracts.

Hope this is helpful,

Rink
SM2K #330 Razor's Edge

Op 7 jun. 2013 om 21:54 heeft "Maria Geiger" <pitugolf@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello,

We are thinking to pass this winter in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.
The stw group has a label for Leros in Greece and Didim in Turquie.

Does someone knows those marinas or another one ?
An advice for a good marina where we can spend this winter: save and with good services would be very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Maria

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Re: [Amel] Marina for winter in Greece or Turquie

Rink De Haan
 

Hello Maria,

We can share some of iur experiences. We stayed in Didim, Leros and Aghios Nikolos. All of them are fine marinas. Crete has the best climate for the winter and is a lovely island. The marina is close to the attractive town and is not expensive. Maintenance facilities are not that good. Didim is a new and very good marina and has execellent maintenance facilities. For the village you have to take the mini bus. Atmosphere is okay, but not cosy. In summer expensive, but the offer winter packages. Turkey is also very beautiful so you have acccess to many interseting places. Leros is also a good marina. You can walk to the village which is interesting, but doesn't offer much after you have seen it once or twice. And it is an island which is also beautiful but small and with limited connection facilities.
On the Turkish coast there are plenty of wintering facilities. You could also consider Kusadasi, Marmaris, Göcek and others. Many of them have wintering contracts.

Hope this is helpful,

Rink
SM2K #330 Razor's Edge




Op 7 jun. 2013 om 21:54 heeft "Maria Geiger" <pitugolf@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello,

We are thinking to pass this winter in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.
The stw group has a label for Leros in Greece and Didim in Turquie.

Does someone knows those marinas or another one ?
An advice for a good marina where we can spend this winter: save and with good services would be very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Maria


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Re: [Amel] Marina for winter in Greece or Turquie

Pitugolf Yahoo <pitugolf@...>
 

Thank you so much Ann-Sofie, we will have a look to this marina... I didn't think about Crete but why not?

Thank you again and have a nice summer,



Maria Geiger
S.Y. PITU SM 148



Le 8 juin 2013 à 06:43, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> a écrit :

We have stayed 2 winters in Aghios Nikolaos marina on Crete. Well protected, priceworthy, pretty close to Heraklion Airport 50 min with car.
Nice little city with allmost everything you need. Easy to fix things on your bost, sails, motor, electricity things. Helpful oener of h chandlery 5 min walk from marina. Many nice restaurants that is open during the winter.

In heavy northely winds there is swell in the harbour, but with springs on all your mooring lines that is not a problem, just inconvenient.

It is a place we will come back to in the future.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM #232

Skickat från min iPad

7 jun 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev "Maria Geiger" <pitugolf@...>:

Hello,

We are thinking to pass this winter in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.
The stw group has a label for Leros in Greece and Didim in Turquie.

Does someone knows those marinas or another one ?
An advice for a good marina where we can spend this winter: save and with good services would be very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Maria




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Re: [Amel] Marina for winter in Greece or Turquie

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We have stayed 2 winters in Aghios Nikolaos marina on Crete. Well protected, priceworthy, pretty close to Heraklion Airport 50 min with car.
Nice little city with allmost everything you need. Easy to fix things on your bost, sails, motor, electricity things. Helpful oener of h chandlery 5 min walk from marina. Many nice restaurants that is open during the winter.

In heavy northely winds there is swell in the harbour, but with springs on all your mooring lines that is not a problem, just inconvenient.

It is a place we will come back to in the future.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM #232

Skickat från min iPad

7 jun 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev "Maria Geiger" <pitugolf@...>:

Hello,

We are thinking to pass this winter in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.
The stw group has a label for Leros in Greece and Didim in Turquie.

Does someone knows those marinas or another one ?
An advice for a good marina where we can spend this winter: save and with good services would be very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Maria


Marina for winter in Greece or Turquie

Maria Geiger <pitugolf@...>
 

Hello,

We are thinking to pass this winter in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.
The stw group has a label for Leros in Greece and Didim in Turquie.

Does someone knows those marinas or another one ?
An advice for a good marina where we can spend this winter: save and with good services would be very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Maria


Re: Top-Bottom Hight of Santorin / Maramu 46 - Removable Hard dodger ?

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

The Dodger is removable. - I do know of a Santorin in France that i was told by one broker the owner would take 95k Euro for. It does not need a rebuild...but does need new standing rigging and an update on electronics....it is in yachtworld for much more and is listed by a few brokers. The owner is 81 and from my understanding wants to see the boat used by a new owner

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Dr Jörg Steffen <joerg.steffen@...> wrote:

Good morning Amel owners,
as you know from my older post I am going to buy an older AMEL for a
refit an land.
For this reason I have to do a land transport via the highways with
bridge hights of 4,50m.
I send a mail request to amel@... to get the measurement of the
santorin but til now got no answer.

Is this the famous aftersale service of amel or just the wrong mail adress ?

Do you know the height of the complete hull ??

Is the hard dodger of santorin removable ?

Many thanks !

Jörg Steffen


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Thomson Washer-Dryer Manuals/Washer Service Manual in English LA3P L10 006 0404 Rev.pdf
Uploaded by : mike.k.johnson@... <mike.k.johnson@...>
Description : Elco Brandt L10 Evolution Washer Dryer Technical Training Manual

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/files/Thomson%20Washer-Dryer%20Manuals/Washer%20Service%20Manual%20in%20English%20LA3P%20L10%20006%200404%20Rev.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html
Regards,

mike.k.johnson@... <mike.k.johnson@...>


Re: [Amel] Clothes washer issue on SM 391

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Mike

This could also be useful for others on the site later on. Try adding it to
the file here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/files/Thomson%20Washer-Dryer%20Manuals/
or
send it to me at colin.d.streeter@... and I will upload it for future
reference for the group.
Many thanks
Colin
Island Pearl II #332


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:37 PM, mike.k.johnson@... <
mike.k.johnson@...> wrote:

**




Hi Jean & John,

We have a pdf version of the Elco Barndt L10 Evolution Technical Training
Manual (as fitted to our SM2000 hull 461).

If you would like me to send you a copy or post on the website send me an
email.

Best wishes

Mike

SOLITUDE

SM2K 461


--- In amelyachtowners@..., johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:



Hi Jean,

That would be very helpfull, could you please send me both manuals to my
email address. The address is notrevie123@...

Thanks very much

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Jean Boucharlat"
<jean.boucharlat@> wrote:

To : John Abercrombie



I do have, in Pdf format, two owners manuals for your Australe. One is
in
English, and fairly simple, the other in French, much more detailed
and with
many more drawings of the innards of the beast. This being said they
are
owners manuals and not shop manuals. If one or the other, or both, can
be of
help let me know your email address and I'll be glad to send them.



Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: jeudi 6 juin 2013 02:29
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Clothes washer issue on SM 391





Our Thomson Australe washer is acting up. It will run thru the agitate
cycle
and half of the rinse cycle, it will then stop and flash between the
rinse
and stop lights. I have cleaned out the lint filter and also opened up
the
pump cover and shop vac'd out the pump area. I can see no blockages on
the
drain side and I think I can hear the pump running on the drain cycle.
If I
switch the machine straight to the spin cycle I can hear the pump run
but
again the drum will not start on the spin cycle and the spin light and
stop
light will both flash.

Does anybody have a copy of the Thompson Australe shop service manual?
I am
sure this is a minor problem that could easily be diagnosed with a good
manual.

thx
John Abercrombie SM #391









--
*Colin Streeter*
*0411 016 445*


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Re: [Amel] Clothes washer issue on SM 391

Mike Johnson
 

Hi Jean & John,

We have a pdf version of the Elco Barndt L10 Evolution Technical Training Manual (as fitted to our SM2000 hull 461).

If you would like me to send you a copy or post on the website send me an email.

Best wishes

Mike

SOLITUDE

SM2K 461

--- In amelyachtowners@..., johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:



Hi Jean,

That would be very helpfull, could you please send me both manuals to my email address. The address is notrevie123@...

Thanks very much

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Jean Boucharlat" <jean.boucharlat@> wrote:

To : John Abercrombie



I do have, in Pdf format, two owners manuals for your Australe. One is in
English, and fairly simple, the other in French, much more detailed and with
many more drawings of the innards of the beast. This being said they are
owners manuals and not shop manuals. If one or the other, or both, can be of
help let me know your email address and I'll be glad to send them.



Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: jeudi 6 juin 2013 02:29
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Clothes washer issue on SM 391





Our Thomson Australe washer is acting up. It will run thru the agitate cycle
and half of the rinse cycle, it will then stop and flash between the rinse
and stop lights. I have cleaned out the lint filter and also opened up the
pump cover and shop vac'd out the pump area. I can see no blockages on the
drain side and I think I can hear the pump running on the drain cycle. If I
switch the machine straight to the spin cycle I can hear the pump run but
again the drum will not start on the spin cycle and the spin light and stop
light will both flash.

Does anybody have a copy of the Thompson Australe shop service manual? I am
sure this is a minor problem that could easily be diagnosed with a good
manual.

thx
John Abercrombie SM #391







Re: Clothes washer issue on SM 391

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

The previous owner had ordered it from Amel. It came a few months after we bought the boat. It was incredibly expensive. There are previous posts on substitutes, but so far, ours has worked well. We think it a good machine and anywhere the French have colonized at some point, there are repair services. The manual has been very helpful.
Drew
Revelation SM390

--- In amelyachtowners@..., johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

will take a look. thx very much. where did you buy the new machine?

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@> wrote:

Hi,
We replaced the Thompson-Brandt washer on Revelation SM390 with a newer version in 2006. The shop/repair manual is in the file section of the Amel web site: SM Brandt-thomson Washer tech Manual.pdf. It includes BIST routines that are helpful for identifying errors. The drawings are quite useful as well.
Drew
Revelation SM390


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Re: 175 amp alternator on SM-burned up battery bank.

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Eric,

The batteries used in trucks are generally starting batteries, not deep cycle batteries and that is the difference in charging regimes.

Most, if not all, battery manufacturers will tell you that charging starting batteries is best done with a standard internally regulated alternator (like on your Amel, there is a separate 12V alternator) for charging the 12V starting battery at 14.4 volts and the starting battery is very happy.

Most, if not all, battery manufacturers will tell you that charging deep cycle batteries is a completely different matter. They generally recommend a 3 stage(aka SMART) charger that takes the batteries through a bulk phase, absorption phase and then a float phase as previously described. This maximises the charging of the batteries in the shortest possible time and helps to ensure longevity.

This is a good primer on deep cycle batteries :

http://www.solar-electric.com/deep-cycle-battery-faq.html#Battery Charging

I have had this experience on a previous boat where the 100A alternator was drying out the batteries as they were always kept at the absorption voltage. Removing the internal reg and adding a 3 stage reg, new batteries and the problem went away...

That's why I'm going to do the same with this one.

Leaving the boat hooked to shore power shouldn't harm the batteries PROVIDING there is no fault with the charger....it should charge them up and then go to float or maintenance phase and just stay there.

If your charger is faulty then indeed that could kill the batteries.

Best of luck with it all
Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM437

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I saw on my spare 175 amp alternator that is has a label stating for use on
Cummins diesels.

Cummins diesels are used in commercial trucks and power plants. My
alternator fellow ( second generation) says that a constant output of 28.5
volts is not a problem as trucks run for days and power plants work for
months without burning up their battery banks.



I will stick with Amels original idea of the stock alternator. As I
previously said, I had no problem with it for 4 years and I motored a lot. I
believe my problem is the charger.



I get new batteries Monday and will keep you posted. I also leave the boat
hooked into shore power for weeks at a time some times. I believe that was
part of my problem. I am discontinuing this practice.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: 175 amp alternator on SM-burned up battery bank.





Dear Alan and Richard,
Thank you both for you help. I now have a reply from Dolphin stating that my
original chargers are fine but suggesting that things have moved on and
promoting their Dolphin Pro series!
Specification and information on Leece Neville alternator regulator model
8RL 3021 has proven impossible to find other than the manufacturer upgraded
them from 2006 to stop customers self adjusting them.
In the final analysis I am always reluctant to change anything that was
designed and fitted by Amel. I think that Richard is correct with upgrading
to a smart charger when availability finances allow and replacing with lead
acid batteries.
Kind regards,
Trevor

Sea Fever
SM 425
Mexico

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k"
<divanz620@> wrote:

Hi Trevor,

At 28.1-28.6V you are probably OK...its when it stays at 28.8V for days
that I think there is a problem re gassing the batteries and ultimately
battery failure
But WHY your alt puts out 28.1-28.6V is a bit of a mystery when the
standard internal reg is set for 28.8

The Dolphin chargers re SMART chargers, I don't know why the 30 and 100 A
docs would be different...its really a case of whether or not the charger
can keep up with the load imposed on it.

As to why Amel didn't buy an externally regulated alt to put in the
Maramus...well...my only thought is that they didn't understand well how
batteries need to be charged

BUT, having said that, the system we have is perfectly OK..UNLESS we motor
for long periods...like I did..54 hours last week.

I don't agree that it's a "black art"..I think that there is a lot of
"bad" information out there.

I have more than 15 years experience with different alternators, chargers,
batteries, in different boats and I think I understand the best way to do
it...and that is DEFINITELY NOT to have a 28.8V internal reg in the
alternator !

Hence I am trying to find a way to externally reg this 175A beast that we
have, properly !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM#437

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "seafeverofcuan"
<seafeverofcuan@> wrote:


Hi Eric,
I was hoping that you would post your findings re. you alternator. We
are now at the bottom of The Sea of Cortez and hope to get some good
technical help in Mazatlan next week. For now we are running on four
remaining house batteries. The alternator has been putting out between 28.1
volts to 28.6 volts the remaining batteries have not overheated.
I have the original Dolphin instruction paperwork from 2004. The 30amp
charger should boost at 27.7 volts and float at 26.5, the 100amp boost 28.8
and float at 27.2.
However both pieces of paper ( and that is literally what came with the
boat) state

"The charger system will revert to boost when the battery system
requirements equal 50% of the charger rated output"

My reading of this is that in our case with twelve house batteries
giving 630 amps at 24 volts then the 30 amp reverts to boost when the
batteries drop below 97% of total capacity.

My 30amp charger now only produces 27.3 volts, I have asked Reya for
advice and haven't had a reply as yet.
I suspect the answer lies in a total replacement of both chargers with a
smart charger and of course a new set of batteries. From everything that I
have been reading, common sense would indicate AGM and completely disconnect
them when leaving the boat for long periods.
The entire subject is a black art and I suspect in my case choices will
be heavily influenced by what is available in Mexico.
Best regards,
Trevor
Sea Fever





--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailorman <kimberlite@> wrote:

I had my alternator checked at a very excellent alternator shop and
the
owner showed me what happens as it runs. There is no internal
regulation.
However he said as the battery becomes more charged the resistance of
the
bank increases and the alternator puts out less and less amps . It has
a
constant output of about 28.5 volts. He said the Balmar smart
regulator is a
waste of money -and he sells them.





I had no problems with this alternator with my first set of batteries
for 4
years. I only changed the batteries after a lightning strike.



My current burned out battery bank must have been caused by the
charger. I
will test it when I get my new batteries next week.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite




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Top-Bottom Hight of Santorin / Maramu 46 - Removable Hard dodger ?

Dr Jörg Steffen <joerg.steffen@...>
 

Good morning Amel owners,
as you know from my older post I am going to buy an older AMEL for a refit an land.
For this reason I have to do a land transport via the highways with bridge hights of 4,50m.
I send a mail request to amel@... to get the measurement of the santorin but til now got no answer.

Is this the famous aftersale service of amel or just the wrong mail adress ?

Do you know the height of the complete hull ??

Is the hard dodger of santorin removable ?

Many thanks !

Jrg Steffen


Re: [Amel] Comfort in NYC winter - old Maramu

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi Ross
I belive that the SM is similar with the Maramu, considering, insulation of the hull. We lived abord our SM for two years in South of Sweden before we left for our long time sailing. Those two winters where the coldest for twenty years! For two-three months we hade 30 cm of ice around the boat.
We used only the dieselheater. Our electrical backup heaters was unused.

We didn,t have any problems with freezing toilets or bilge. The only problem was that it got damp inside the cabinetts, so we hade to keep all the doors open to let the warm air in.

Regards
Annsofie
SM 232, Lady Annila

Skickat från min iPad

6 jun 2013 kl. 03:51 skrev "rossny@..." <rossny@...>:

Hi All, I am thinking of staying aboard my boat in NY harbor this winter. The built in diesel heater needs to be rebuilt and the fans replaced but I think I can bring it back to it's 1989 original system. That said... all my Maramu has is some foam backed vinyl and carpeting glued to the hull for insulation, in your experience will that be enough? or will I have to insulate for the northern winter. Also will the 3" ducting running throughout have adequate volume of air exchange to avoid the icing that I've seen on other heated boats during the winter? Will I need backup electric heaters? Any experience in how cold it needs to be to freeze the bilge and the toilets? Thanks again, Ross Maramu #251 1989


175 amp alternator on SM-burned up battery bank.

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

I saw on my spare 175 amp alternator that is has a label stating for use on
Cummins diesels.

Cummins diesels are used in commercial trucks and power plants. My
alternator fellow ( second generation) says that a constant output of 28.5
volts is not a problem as trucks run for days and power plants work for
months without burning up their battery banks.



I will stick with Amels original idea of the stock alternator. As I
previously said, I had no problem with it for 4 years and I motored a lot. I
believe my problem is the charger.



I get new batteries Monday and will keep you posted. I also leave the boat
hooked into shore power for weeks at a time some times. I believe that was
part of my problem. I am discontinuing this practice.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: 175 amp alternator on SM-burned up battery bank.





Dear Alan and Richard,
Thank you both for you help. I now have a reply from Dolphin stating that my
original chargers are fine but suggesting that things have moved on and
promoting their Dolphin Pro series!
Specification and information on Leece Neville alternator regulator model
8RL 3021 has proven impossible to find other than the manufacturer upgraded
them from 2006 to stop customers self adjusting them.
In the final analysis I am always reluctant to change anything that was
designed and fitted by Amel. I think that Richard is correct with upgrading
to a smart charger when availability finances allow and replacing with lead
acid batteries.
Kind regards,
Trevor

Sea Fever
SM 425
Mexico

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k"
<divanz620@...> wrote:

Hi Trevor,

At 28.1-28.6V you are probably OK...its when it stays at 28.8V for days
that I think there is a problem re gassing the batteries and ultimately
battery failure
But WHY your alt puts out 28.1-28.6V is a bit of a mystery when the
standard internal reg is set for 28.8

The Dolphin chargers re SMART chargers, I don't know why the 30 and 100 A
docs would be different...its really a case of whether or not the charger
can keep up with the load imposed on it.

As to why Amel didn't buy an externally regulated alt to put in the
Maramus...well...my only thought is that they didn't understand well how
batteries need to be charged

BUT, having said that, the system we have is perfectly OK..UNLESS we motor
for long periods...like I did..54 hours last week.

I don't agree that it's a "black art"..I think that there is a lot of
"bad" information out there.

I have more than 15 years experience with different alternators, chargers,
batteries, in different boats and I think I understand the best way to do
it...and that is DEFINITELY NOT to have a 28.8V internal reg in the
alternator !

Hence I am trying to find a way to externally reg this 175A beast that we
have, properly !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse
SM#437

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "seafeverofcuan"
<seafeverofcuan@> wrote:


Hi Eric,
I was hoping that you would post your findings re. you alternator. We
are now at the bottom of The Sea of Cortez and hope to get some good
technical help in Mazatlan next week. For now we are running on four
remaining house batteries. The alternator has been putting out between 28.1
volts to 28.6 volts the remaining batteries have not overheated.
I have the original Dolphin instruction paperwork from 2004. The 30amp
charger should boost at 27.7 volts and float at 26.5, the 100amp boost 28.8
and float at 27.2.
However both pieces of paper ( and that is literally what came with the
boat) state

"The charger system will revert to boost when the battery system
requirements equal 50% of the charger rated output"

My reading of this is that in our case with twelve house batteries
giving 630 amps at 24 volts then the 30 amp reverts to boost when the
batteries drop below 97% of total capacity.

My 30amp charger now only produces 27.3 volts, I have asked Reya for
advice and haven't had a reply as yet.
I suspect the answer lies in a total replacement of both chargers with a
smart charger and of course a new set of batteries. From everything that I
have been reading, common sense would indicate AGM and completely disconnect
them when leaving the boat for long periods.
The entire subject is a black art and I suspect in my case choices will
be heavily influenced by what is available in Mexico.
Best regards,
Trevor
Sea Fever





--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailorman <kimberlite@> wrote:

I had my alternator checked at a very excellent alternator shop and
the
owner showed me what happens as it runs. There is no internal
regulation.
However he said as the battery becomes more charged the resistance of
the
bank increases and the alternator puts out less and less amps . It has
a
constant output of about 28.5 volts. He said the Balmar smart
regulator is a
waste of money -and he sells them.





I had no problems with this alternator with my first set of batteries
for 4
years. I only changed the batteries after a lightning strike.



My current burned out battery bank must have been caused by the
charger. I
will test it when I get my new batteries next week.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite




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Re: [Amel] VHF Antenna on Amel 54

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

The electronic connections are standard worldwide.

You should have no problem getting an antenna or a new cable.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 5:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] VHF Antenna on Amel 54





We appear to have three VHF antenna. A long one and one slightly shorter on
the main and a long one on the mizzen. These are, I understand for teh VHF
radio, the entertainment radio and the AIS system.

We have had an on goig problem with the VHF antenna which I believe to be a
failed antenna whip, or a join to the same at the mast head, everything else
checks out. Swap the AIS and VHF coaxes at he chart table and we get great
VHF but poor AIS reception and vice versa.

Can anyone help with the spec of the VHF antenna and if there is a coupling
in the cable at the mast head. I suspect that the antenna is 3 foot (1
metre?) into a threaded base. We are in the USA and of course the coupling
is likely to be metric which is not readily available here. I am therefore
looking at replacing the base and antenna and anyone with experience of this
replacement would be very helpful.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Amel 54 #56
Caduceus
Near Annapolis, MD, USA




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Re: [Amel] Comfort in NYC winter - old Maramu

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Ross,

Had you thought of a winter slip at the Huntington Yacht club?

Great Hurricane hole, Ice eaters, and dock staff all winter. I live in
Northport.

A few people have lived aboard at the club in years past.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of rossny@...
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 4:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Comfort in NYC winter - old Maramu






Hello Eric,
I was thinking of leaving the boat at the Worlds Fair Marina, near where I
work in Flushing. Do you liveaboard in Huntington Harbor during the summer?
Have you ever stayed the winter aboard up here? My boat is still in Florida
where it might be safer than up in NY during hurricane season.
Thanks,
Ross
--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
wrote:

Hi Ross,

Where are you located?

I am in Huntington

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of rossny@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Comfort in NYC winter - old Maramu





Hi All, I am thinking of staying aboard my boat in NY harbor this winter.
The built in diesel heater needs to be rebuilt and the fans replaced but I
think I can bring it back to it's 1989 original system. That said... all
my
Maramu has is some foam backed vinyl and carpeting glued to the hull for
insulation, in your experience will that be enough? or will I have to
insulate for the northern winter. Also will the 3" ducting running
throughout have adequate volume of air exchange to avoid the icing that
I've
seen on other heated boats during the winter? Will I need backup electric
heaters? Any experience in how cold it needs to be to freeze the bilge and
the toilets? Thanks again, Ross Maramu #251 1989




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VHF Antenna on Amel 54

Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

We appear to have three VHF antenna. A long one and one slightly shorter on the main and a long one on the mizzen. These are, I understand for teh VHF radio, the entertainment radio and the AIS system.

We have had an on goig problem with the VHF antenna which I believe to be a failed antenna whip, or a join to the same at the mast head, everything else checks out. Swap the AIS and VHF coaxes at he chart table and we get great VHF but poor AIS reception and vice versa.

Can anyone help with the spec of the VHF antenna and if there is a coupling in the cable at the mast head. I suspect that the antenna is 3 foot (1 metre?) into a threaded base. We are in the USA and of course the coupling is likely to be metric which is not readily available here. I am therefore looking at replacing the base and antenna and anyone with experience of this replacement would be very helpful.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Amel 54 #56
Caduceus
Near Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: Domestic Water pressure switch.

Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

Thank you for this very useful information I will try thee adjustments as soon as I can.

Regards,
Martin
Caduceus
Amel 54 #56
Currently near Annapolis


Re: [Amel] Comfort in NYC winter - old Maramu

rossny@mail.com
 

Hello Eric,
I was thinking of leaving the boat at the Worlds Fair Marina, near where I work in Flushing. Do you liveaboard in Huntington Harbor during the summer? Have you ever stayed the winter aboard up here? My boat is still in Florida where it might be safer than up in NY during hurricane season.
Thanks,
Ross

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Ross,

Where are you located?

I am in Huntington

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of rossny@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Comfort in NYC winter - old Maramu





Hi All, I am thinking of staying aboard my boat in NY harbor this winter.
The built in diesel heater needs to be rebuilt and the fans replaced but I
think I can bring it back to it's 1989 original system. That said... all my
Maramu has is some foam backed vinyl and carpeting glued to the hull for
insulation, in your experience will that be enough? or will I have to
insulate for the northern winter. Also will the 3" ducting running
throughout have adequate volume of air exchange to avoid the icing that I've
seen on other heated boats during the winter? Will I need backup electric
heaters? Any experience in how cold it needs to be to freeze the bilge and
the toilets? Thanks again, Ross Maramu #251 1989




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