Re: RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Apero - Table in the Cockpit
r.zurkirchen
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<naegels@t...> wrote: Hi Rudy,like to post it on French Amel User ForumTable" it is all what I have right now. By Rudy I could put some cups and bottles, when arrived in the port or forsitting is not comfortable. Now I have it !drivers- seat. Simple but comfortable.still having enough place on the cockpit table.subject=Unsubscribe>
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RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Apero - Table in the Cockpit
Patrick Naegels <naegels@...>
Hi Rudy,
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Could you transfer me a good picture of your "mini bar". I would like to post it on French Amel User Forum Thank you Patrick
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De : rzurkirchen2003 [mailto:r.zurkirchen@vtx.ch] Envoyé : lundi 17 janvier 2005 17:19 À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Objet : [Amel Yacht Owners] Apero - Table in the Cockpit What a wonderful Extra I was missing on my SM2000 a little place in the cockpit, where I could put some cups and bottles, when arrived in the port or for the ankerdrink. I did not like to use the big table, as the sitting is not comfortable. Now I have it ! It is a small wooden plate, set with clips on the top of the drivers- seat. Simple but comfortable. I made the table in such a way, that I can defold it and then get double size ( approx. 60 x 40 cm ) , as an additional shelf to the cockpit table. It is very useful to put pans and plates , and still having enough place on the cockpit table. I put some pictures forward, to illustrate this little wonderful Extra. Rudy of SAMANTHA SM2000#407 _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Apero - Table in the Cockpit
r.zurkirchen
What a wonderful Extra
I was missing on my SM2000 a little place in the cockpit, where I could put some cups and bottles, when arrived in the port or for the ankerdrink. I did not like to use the big table, as the sitting is not comfortable. Now I have it ! It is a small wooden plate, set with clips on the top of the drivers- seat. Simple but comfortable. I made the table in such a way, that I can defold it and then get double size ( approx. 60 x 40 cm ) , as an additional shelf to the cockpit table. It is very useful to put pans and plates , and still having enough place on the cockpit table. I put some pictures forward, to illustrate this little wonderful Extra. Rudy of SAMANTHA SM2000#407
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RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Jabsco Quite Flush Toilet Motor Failure Mode
Patrick Naegels <naegels@...>
Gary said :
I had neglected to replace this seal on my toilet pump and at the three-year mark one of my toilet pumps ceased to work. Disassembly showed that the seal had failed, salt water had leaked around the seal and past the slinger washer and entered the bearings of the motor. NEW MOTOR NEEDED. I had the same, and I recommend also to replace this little cheap seal every 2 years. Moreover, as we start a cruise around the world, we have two seals kit + 1 crusher motor + 1 flush motor as spare parts Patrick (Caramel, SM2000 #329)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 1985 MARAMU FURLING SYSTEM PROBLEMS
Peps47 <dji314@...>
For sure Mr Jean Yves Selo at the factory will be able to help. Mr Selo knows
everything on Amels. email: AMEL@AMEL.FR ============================================================ From: DENNIS STULLER <svcheechako@yahoo.com> Date: 2005/01/14 Fri AM 08:30:52 EST To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 1985 MARAMU FURLING SYSTEM PROBLEMS I HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A NEGLECTED 1985 MARAMU WHICH HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE FURLING SYSTEM ON THE MAIN. AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL THE PROBLEM STARTED WITH A BOUND UP BEARING AT THE TOP OF THE FURLER WHICH CAUSED THE DRIVE SHAFT TO TWIST OFF INSIDE THE MAST JUST WHERE IT GOES INTO THE BEVEL GEAR. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I SHOULD GO OR WHOM I SHOULD CONTACT FOR SERVICE INFORMATION AND PARTS FOR THIS BOAT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH PROBLEMS OF THIS NATURE AND ANY ADVICE? THANKS, DENNIS STULLER SVCHEECHAKO@YAHOO.COM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 Yahoo! Groups Links ============================================================
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Heaving to etc
Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
Firstly a Happy New Year to All. I have over 120 messages backed up, so I am
going to attempt to add my thoughts briefly to the several topics that have been raised. Heaving to I have done this many times in winds up to 50 kts. Steve Dashew wrote in CW Magazine about the 'bald headed ketch'. He suggests main & mizzen sheeted in hard with the rudder lashed amidships. It does work, but I found a better angle by using only the mizzen with the rudder fully to windward. The angle is not brilliant, but I found a small improvement by moving the mizzen traveller fully to windward also. Bow Thruster Before sailing off again last summer I mentioned that Amel had modified the bow thruster hub to exclude the smaller small nylon screws, replacing the 3 large and 3 small screws with 4 large screws. This is not correct. There are in fact now 6 large screws. I had an occasion to test the new design when a piece of fishing netting got wrapped behind the propeller hub. The change in note of the thruster was immediately noticeable and I stopped using it, left the marina, and anchored out to remove the netting with scuba gear, which took a full half hour to do. The screws did not break and I did not lose the propeller. It does seem that at last Amel have taken on board that the old design was too fragile. Thank you. Incidentally I now anchor with FULL mizzen sheeted hard amidships. This stops the bow falling off when drifting backwards as the chain is paid out before the anchor has dug in, without having to resort to using the bow thruster to kick the bow back into wind in crowded anchorage's. Once properly anchored, I furl the mizzen for a quiet night. Prop Shaft Seals Yes, these do need replacing. I had a failure after 800 hours with my first SM2000, and an expensive haul out to enable me to replace them. I did meet another SM owner in Trinidad some years ago who suggested that if the bronze bush that the 3 lip seals mate onto were made of ceramic, the wear would be negligible, both to the seals and the bush. If the transmission box oil can be sucked out as suggested through the header tank pipe and then replaced annually, then there might be a considerable advantage in getting a ceramic boss manufactured. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of ceramics to help decide if this would be worthwhile pursuing? If there were enough of us, then maybe it would be cost effective to get a batch made up? Prop Fouling Before Amel re-launched Crusader, they painted the prop with anti-fouling. It really did not last long at all. It is after all, ablative. What I have done in the past is to coat the hub and blades with white lithium grease. After 6 months, there was no growth at all, even in the Caribbean. I have heard of others using STP long chain molecule oil additive. I would be interested to hear if anyone has tried STP? Water Makers Following my tests on the Dessalator 150 l/h unit, I have so far found out the following: 1/ The original Dessalator design used both a 2 minute timer, and a salinity tester probe. The salinity probe had two functions. It was fitted to reduce the 2 minute waiting period if the water was good and open the diverter valve into the tank. It was also fitted to shut down the entire system if salt water was detected following a membrane failure. It has been pointed out that there will never normally be salt water on the output side of the membranes, even within the 2 minute period, provided that the membranes are not perforated by damage. 2/ The salinity probe should be wired into connectors 3 & 4 on the 12 way connection strip at the top of the circuit board. As you know, my tests on the salinity probe did not shut down the system. I have not been able to inspect the board to date to see if the probe is connected, but I will do so when I get back to Cyprus next week. I believe that the board is accessible through the portside cockpit locker? I hope to soon have further information on what has been done to the water makers and how we might reinstate full protection if it is thought to be necessary. Correct Wind Read Out I had a discussion with B & G and they say that it is perfectly possible to get the Hydra to read the correct magnetic or true wind using the NMEA 0183 v2.3 output from the autopilot computer. My 400G computer has two NMEA outputs. I will try it and if it works, will post the details. ARPA Furuno make an ARPA collision alerting system for our 1832 radar at a reasonable cost. The additional circuit board costs 210 Pounds and the interface lead from the Furuno GP-80 GPS 13 Pounds. You do need a very precise heading reference though. Raytheon say that if you have the 400G computer with the gyro, then, provided you use the autopilot with a response rate of 6 or higher, which switches the gyro on, then you will have a heading reference within the required 0.5 of a degree. If you don't have the 400G computer, then you will have to fit a dedicated compass unit and the cost will rise to about 800 Pounds. The advantage of ARPA is that apart from displaying other vessels course, speed and position, you can program a Closest Point of Approach (CPA) that you are comfortable with. Anything less will trigger the an audible alarm. This could be useful in reducing the number of alarms when sailing single handed and relying on the radar to keep watch whilst you sleep. Often a target will creep just inside your guard zone radius then out again setting off the alarm unnecessarily. ARPA will enable you to only be disturbed when a real threat exists. It will also help you with your radio call to an approaching ship as you will be able to identify it's position, course and speed precisely. I have ordered the parts and will let you know how well it works. Finally I am happy to report that I sailed Crusader some 4500 nms last summer without a single failure of any kind, other than a broken reading light lens which I caught in the aft cabin mattress when lowering the bed lid. Although the Med is hardly a severe test of a boat except in the occasional Meltem or Bora, I am very pleased with the boat now. Best Wishes Ian Shepherd SM #414 Crusader ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005
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Water Maker Salinity Sensor
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Joel:
Any further word on the water maker salinity sensor/solenoid question? I am waiting with baited breath. I had previously purchased an electronic device for measuring the purity of the water. I was told that 250 ppm (parts per million) was good and my water had been running about there for the last year. On the last trip however it was up to 450 ppm. Granted we had been using more marina water recently (filtered through an RV inline charcoal filter as you, and others on this forum, had suggested). The charcoal takes the chlorine out but I am not sure if it removes other ionic solids. Say hi to Vila, Gary Silver
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Re: Jabsco Toilet Pump Motor
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Thanks John:
I will check my weap holes. There was no part break-out for the motor and it's bearings. I did not try disassembly. Is the bearing something generic that you could get at a bearing supply house? Thanks again for the info on the weap holes. I agree that there is always something to be done on the boat. Gary
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Re: 1985 MARAMU FURLING SYSTEM PROBLEMS
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi: I sent a reply already but it didn't show up for some reason.
I will try again. Amel is able to provide technical support and parts for your boat. If the parts needed are proprietary to Amel you will need to obtain them from Amel. If you need contact information go to www.Amel.fr My boat is currently located in Ft. Lauderdale and Ray Eaton (Joel's/Amel's defacto service representative for that area) has been very helpful. You may contact him at 954 583-8762 (voice) or 954 792-8883 (Fax). Along this line, I recently noticed a very strange and loud grinding noise coming from my main sail furling mechanism even though the furling seemed to work ok. Ray Eaton investigated this for me. We originally thought something had broken in the gearbox but what we found was that the motor shaft had sheared off. The irregular ends of the shaft still engaged each other so that the furling worked but made a lot of noise. I have seen similar failures of motor shafts on aircraft flap activation systems that are heavily loaded in torsion. Ray indicated that he had not seen this failure mode before. Ray obtained a new motor from Amel and after inspecting the gearbox for damage installed the new motor. One of the sales pitches that Jean-Jacques showed me at the Amel factory was the fact that they keep on file all the data about each boat they manufacture, including the equipment installed, so that they can reference that information when providing replacement parts. My advice is to contact the factory. Unless you are fluent in French, I have had the best luck faxing them with specific questions/part numbers/boat serial numbers etc so that less is lost in the translation. Amel has always been a pleasure to work. Good luck, Gary Silver Amel SM # 335
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Jabsco Toilet Pump Motor
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
Hi Gary,
I thought that I had posted my experience about a year ago but cannot find it so I must have fouled up.On Bali Hai the forward pump started leaking through the weepholes in the plastic moulding which is between the motor and the W.C. pan. There are two weepholes opposite each other and they should stop water getting to the motor. BUT through bad assembly by the manufacturers, I suppose, the holes on the forward pump were in the horizontal plane so that they only let sea water leak out after the housing was full up to that level thus corroding the motor and its fixings etc.. The motor/housing on the aft toilet was correctly assembled with the holes in the vertical plane so that any water getting past the seal would leak out without doing any harm. All owners should check to ensure that the holes are at the top and bottom and if not take the thing off and move the housing through 90 degrees. It is relatively easy to do this. I have enough other jobs to do without changing the seals every year. We just keep an eye on any leak which would signal that the seal should be changed. Incidentally if the only damage was to the front bearing it would have been better to have just had the bearing changed. Happy New Year from Anne and John
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Jabsco Quite Flush Toilet Motor Failure Mode
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
NOTE: There is a typo in my previous message. The correct Part
Number for the currently available pump is PN 37072-0094.
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Jabsco Quite Flush Toilet Motor Failure Mode
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
I thought I would give a heads-up to those who have the Jabsco
Series 37245 Quite Flush Toilets on their boats. The service information provided by Jabsco (in you Amel book with all the other equipment manuals) says, "The toilet has no wearing parts that need periodic replacement other than the shaft seal, which under normal conditions, should provide several years of service before needing replacement." The part about the shaft seal should have been in bold print. I had neglected to replace this seal on my toilet pump and at the three-year mark one of my toilet pumps ceased to work. Disassembly showed that the seal had failed, salt water had leaked around the seal and past the slinger washer and entered the bearings of the motor. NEW MOTOR NEEDED. The motor used to come in 2 versions: PN 37072-0024 (24 volt and US $119.88 from West Marine Special Orders Desk) OR PN 37073-0094 (24 volt EMC, ?? electromagnetic European certification, for US $174.99 from West Marine Special Orders Desk) Jabsco has discontinued the -0024 version and only the more expensive -0094 motor is available. The 90197-0000 Service Kit contains the Joker Valve, some screws and washers, the offending PN 1040-0000 seal that needs to be replaced, and a new O-ring. The seal was about US $4.85 and I plan on replacing it yearly from now on as part of my on-going preventative maintenance. Regards, Gary Silver SM #335
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1985 MARAMU FURLING SYSTEM PROBLEMS
DENNIS STULLER <svcheechako@...>
I HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A NEGLECTED 1985 MARAMU
WHICH HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE FURLING SYSTEM ON THE MAIN. AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL THE PROBLEM STARTED WITH A BOUND UP BEARING AT THE TOP OF THE FURLER WHICH CAUSED THE DRIVE SHAFT TO TWIST OFF INSIDE THE MAST JUST WHERE IT GOES INTO THE BEVEL GEAR. I AM NOT SURE WHERE I SHOULD GO OR WHOM I SHOULD CONTACT FOR SERVICE INFORMATION AND PARTS FOR THIS BOAT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH PROBLEMS OF THIS NATURE AND ANY ADVICE? THANKS, DENNIS STULLER SVCHEECHAKO@YAHOO.COM __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Algae etc on Propeller
silkair@...
Alaskan Fisherman use Bag Balm, it's inexpensive and seems to work fine.
Mike McCarthy Mango #15
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Algae etc on Propeller
Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
John, could you give me a contact number for the Palma distributor, thanks
Mark Shann (Maramu Synnefoula) Best Regards Mark Shann ___________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: John McDougall [mailto:j.c.mcdougall@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:21 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Algae etc on Propeller Thanks for that - I last searched the web for it in the summer & couldn't find it but it's there now. Seems to be only one distributor in Europe - in Palma. Don't know how my contact got it! John -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, jjwiggin02 <no_reply@y...> wrote: the theboat was not used. It was necessary to employ a diver to clean wereprop at considerable expense. I tried various antifoulings, slipperyattainable throughout the summer. I checked this by swimming sinceto the touch. whichand so I cannot update further till next spring. for itis sufficient for 2/3 applications. I cannot locate a source it.on the web although it is mentioned by Australian yards who use theIt is very expensive - I was charged 175euros (ripped off?) but removedresults were so good I shall continue to use it. A diver every experiencedue to a recall by the manufacturer, Bruntons, and so my byrelates to the use of the alternative, fixed blade prop supplied product -Amel but I don't think this would alter the results. if anyone can find it! Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Algae etc on Propeller
John McDougall <j.c.mcdougall@...>
Thanks for that - I last searched the web for it in the summer &
couldn't find it but it's there now. Seems to be only one distributor in Europe - in Palma. Don't know how my contact got it! John -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, jjwiggin02 <no_reply@y...> wrote: the theboat was not used. It was necessary to employ a diver to clean wereprop at considerable expense. I tried various antifoulings, slipperyattainable throughout the summer. I checked this by swimming sinceto the touch. whichand so I cannot update further till next spring. for itis sufficient for 2/3 applications. I cannot locate a source it.on the web although it is mentioned by Australian yards who use theIt is very expensive - I was charged 175euros (ripped off?) but removedresults were so good I shall continue to use it. A diver every experiencedue to a recall by the manufacturer, Bruntons, and so my byrelates to the use of the alternative, fixed blade prop supplied product -Amel but I don't think this would alter the results. if anyone can find it!
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Re: Algae etc on Propeller
jjwiggin02 <no_reply@...>
Web site for the prosuct is http://www.propspeedusa.com/
Jim Wiggin --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John McDougall" <j.c. mcdougall@b...> wrote:
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Algae etc on Propeller
John McDougall <j.c.mcdougall@...>
I had very severe problems of hard, barnacle type fouling on the
prop of my SM330, berthed in Antibes (quite near to Paul - tonic 102004). In summer, max revs would drop to 1750 after about a month if the boat was not used. It was necessary to employ a diver to clean the prop at considerable expense. I tried various antifoulings, including woolfat (lanolin) without success. This year I was told by another (non Amel) owner that there were very good reports of a new product called Prop Speed from New Zealand. I obtained it from a chandler in Antibes and it was applied in early May. The result was excellent. Max revs. were attainable throughout the summer. I checked this by swimming underneath and the prop remained totally clean and slightly slippery to the touch. In late Aug I sailed to Dubrovnik where the boat has remained since and so I cannot update further till next spring. Prop Speed is a two pack, silicon based product sold in a pack which is sufficient for 2/3 applications. I cannot locate a source for it on the web although it is mentioned by Australian yards who use it. It is very expensive - I was charged 175euros (ripped off?) but the results were so good I shall continue to use it. A diver every month was about 80 euros a time. I should add that at the time of application my Autoprop was removed due to a recall by the manufacturer, Bruntons, and so my experience relates to the use of the alternative, fixed blade prop supplied by Amel but I don't think this would alter the results. I'd be interested to hear of any other experiences of this product - if anyone can find it! Regards John
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Painting Props--is ignorance bliss?
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Is there a reason why props should not be painted? I first painted a prop when I bought a Maramu ,( fixed blades)in Majorca ten years ago where, left unpainted, a prop was quickly covered in concrete like secretions. As far as I could tell every boat there painted their prop. I used the same paint as I put on the bottom, Internationals top cruising mixture. Did so for 6 years. No problems.
On our SM I have followed suit.Used Jotun ( unimpresed by its antifouling proerties but it stayed on the prop OK). Then used some Hempel picked up in Panama ( the last ,alas,of that wonderful old stuff where all marine life within 20 meters quietly expires) and now on to Internationals top racing mixture ( Micron Optima?) bought in Chile at a price that will bring tears to your eyes...about US$50 per gallon. Thank God for the Chilean Armada ( navy) which insists that the International office in Valparaiso stocks a few tins for its two ancient racing boats because otherwise there is no market here for such gofaster stuff. I have always applied a couple of coats of theses various antifoulings to my props, both fixed and Autoprop.I have made sure that the surface was reasonably clean before painting but not shiny clean. The paints have all stuck OK and done their jobs in water temperatures varying from Tropical to glacial. Since the boat was launched in June 2000 we have done about 20,000 miles with about 1400 hours motoring. Am I missing something? Is there a reason either not to paint or alternatively to use only some hifalutin and hipriced special prop paint? Heres hoping there isnt! Happy New Year! Ian and Judy Jenkins, SM 302, Pen Azen, Puerto Montt, Chile
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: watermaker spring commissioning
john martin <symoondog@...>
Hi Mark, Regarding flushing your waterr maker after the lay up period. Yes, chlorine does dissapate in your tank after a few months. To be on the safe side order a chlorine tester from Hach co. 800-2274224. $35.00. In as much as you only have to flush the unit for 5 minutes, it may be just as easy to buy about 3 or 4 gallons of distilled water from the grocery store, disconnect the intake hose, put it in a bucket full of the water and turn on the unit. No problem !!!
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