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Re: Sonic Speed computeur

tatane88 <antoinefeltz@...>
 

Thank a lot for help.
Do younow the cable way of the 2 sensor?

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ian Shepherd <sv_freespirit@...> wrote:

If you look in the bottom locker just aft of the forward bulkhead
(opposite forward dining table seat) you will find it under the shelf
held up by shock cord.

Ian Shepherd SM414 Crusader (2003) Nr Athens

On 28/08/2013 16:29, tatane88 wrote:

Hi Amelyachtowners,

What Lockers ship is the sonic speed computeur? thank
SM 192





Re: [Amel] Sonic Speed computeur

Ian Shepherd
 

If you look in the bottom locker just aft of the forward bulkhead
(opposite forward dining table seat) you will find it under the shelf
held up by shock cord.

Ian Shepherd SM414 Crusader (2003) Nr Athens

On 28/08/2013 16:29, tatane88 wrote:

Hi Amelyachtowners,

What Lockers ship is the sonic speed computeur? thank
SM 192


Sonic Speed computeur

tatane88 <antoinefeltz@...>
 

Hi Amelyachtowners,

What Lockers ship is the sonic speed computeur? thank
SM 192


Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

tatane88 <antoinefeltz@...>
 

Hi all,

My motor tmd 22 smoke very black after 2400RPM.
I think i have a problem with wastegate of the turbo. I think the wastegate is locked in position Open.
Is it easy to clean this gate ?
Thank for your help.
SM 192 French.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Miles Bidwell" <mbidwell@...> wrote:

Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over propped as it came
from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the boat.

I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that the engine and
prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and push the boat at
hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea conditions. The idea of
governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to move down the
torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self adjusting ability and
increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having mysterious problems with
the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel pump. If the
motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is clean with smooth
bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is very clean.
Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you for unnecessary
work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)





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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

karkauai
 

There are some great threads from a few years ago regarding low rpm. Heres a list of all the things I can remember that were checked when I was investigating: Growth on hull or prop, autoprop that needs refurbishing...Fuel tank valve, lines, 2 filters, pump (some engines have a lift pump and hi press pump), injectors...air intake clogged, bad turbo, clogged exhaust (especially the elbow), bad cylinder/piston, timing wrong...what have I left out?
We're you able to get 2800+ rpm in the past?

I'd start with prop, fuel filters and Turbo/exhaust elbow. You are the first one I remember with low rpm and 100 HP Yanmar. I'll be interested to hear what you find.
Kent
SM 243 Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:19 AM, "alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k" <divanz620@yahoo.fr> wrote:

we too have the same issue with Yanmar 100hp

It will go to 1900/2000 rpm no problem and in slight seas maybe 2200, but no more...

It is possible that the autoprop is dirty ..hasn't been cleaned for 4 months...and we also have the issue of black smoke (don't see it) that fouls the hull, and is a devil to get off.

We motored 50+ hours on our last passage and the black stain is still there despite lots of cleaning....

In my experience...black smoke = fouled injectors, dirty air filter....or over pitched prop....I 'm sure I don't have the first two...but I don't understand how an autoprop can be over pitched..????

mystified...

Alan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi all, Miles, is correct and yes 2800 is what we get at full that is Amels settings. Should you be Having problems getting there they can be many fold. Most of them come from well minded persons who do or may not understand our yachts.
A good service person will collect facts first then sort out issues.
Running the boat at the dock is not a suggested means of testing the engine/prop. You need to have the boat underway.
On "older" boats ck for air and pressure leaks in the fuel system especially if you've have done work on the injection system. Air leaks can and do occur before you get fuel leaks. Keep it simple first.
Good luck to ALL

Regards
Capt Richard Piller
Fairbanks Yacht Group llc
Full brokerage and service for all yachts
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 27, 2013, at 13:53, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:


Good afternoon MIle,

I agree this is hard to believe the Super Maramu could not exceed 2200 rpm out of the factory...

Were you ever able to reach 2800 rpm?

Last november had antifooling done and prop clean, tied at the dock the engine would reach 2500 rpm, but only 2200 rpm at sea...
2 weeks ago, I cleaned the turbo, prop was cleaned (not the hull) same thing: 2500 rpm tied to the dock and only 2200 rpm at sea...

Seems to be the same for so many people...
What do we do wrong?

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/27/13, Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:37 PM


























Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over
propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the
boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that
the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and
push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea
conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to
move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self
adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having
mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel
pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is
clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is
very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you
for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)



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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Alan by the sound of it the black stain on the hull would get me over board and clean the prop.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:19, "alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k" <divanz620@yahoo.fr> wrote:

we too have the same issue with Yanmar 100hp

It will go to 1900/2000 rpm no problem and in slight seas maybe 2200, but no more...

It is possible that the autoprop is dirty ..hasn't been cleaned for 4 months...and we also have the issue of black smoke (don't see it) that fouls the hull, and is a devil to get off.

We motored 50+ hours on our last passage and the black stain is still there despite lots of cleaning....

In my experience...black smoke = fouled injectors, dirty air filter....or over pitched prop....I 'm sure I don't have the first two...but I don't understand how an autoprop can be over pitched..????

mystified...

Alan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi all, Miles, is correct and yes 2800 is what we get at full that is Amels settings. Should you be Having problems getting there they can be many fold. Most of them come from well minded persons who do or may not understand our yachts.
A good service person will collect facts first then sort out issues.
Running the boat at the dock is not a suggested means of testing the engine/prop. You need to have the boat underway.
On "older" boats ck for air and pressure leaks in the fuel system especially if you've have done work on the injection system. Air leaks can and do occur before you get fuel leaks. Keep it simple first.
Good luck to ALL

Regards
Capt Richard Piller
Fairbanks Yacht Group llc
Full brokerage and service for all yachts
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 27, 2013, at 13:53, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:


Good afternoon MIle,

I agree this is hard to believe the Super Maramu could not exceed 2200 rpm out of the factory...

Were you ever able to reach 2800 rpm?

Last november had antifooling done and prop clean, tied at the dock the engine would reach 2500 rpm, but only 2200 rpm at sea...
2 weeks ago, I cleaned the turbo, prop was cleaned (not the hull) same thing: 2500 rpm tied to the dock and only 2200 rpm at sea...

Seems to be the same for so many people...
What do we do wrong?

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/27/13, Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:37 PM


























Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over
propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the
boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that
the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and
push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea
conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to
move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self
adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having
mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel
pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is
clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is
very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you
for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)



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[Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Alan Leslie
 

we too have the same issue with Yanmar 100hp

It will go to 1900/2000 rpm no problem and in slight seas maybe 2200, but no more...

It is possible that the autoprop is dirty ..hasn't been cleaned for 4 months...and we also have the issue of black smoke (don't see it) that fouls the hull, and is a devil to get off.

We motored 50+ hours on our last passage and the black stain is still there despite lots of cleaning....

In my experience...black smoke = fouled injectors, dirty air filter....or over pitched prop....I 'm sure I don't have the first two...but I don't understand how an autoprop can be over pitched..????

mystified...

Alan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi all, Miles, is correct and yes 2800 is what we get at full that is Amels settings. Should you be Having problems getting there they can be many fold. Most of them come from well minded persons who do or may not understand our yachts.
A good service person will collect facts first then sort out issues.
Running the boat at the dock is not a suggested means of testing the engine/prop. You need to have the boat underway.
On "older" boats ck for air and pressure leaks in the fuel system especially if you've have done work on the injection system. Air leaks can and do occur before you get fuel leaks. Keep it simple first.
Good luck to ALL

Regards
Capt Richard Piller
Fairbanks Yacht Group llc
Full brokerage and service for all yachts
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 27, 2013, at 13:53, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:


Good afternoon MIle,

I agree this is hard to believe the Super Maramu could not exceed 2200 rpm out of the factory...

Were you ever able to reach 2800 rpm?

Last november had antifooling done and prop clean, tied at the dock the engine would reach 2500 rpm, but only 2200 rpm at sea...
2 weeks ago, I cleaned the turbo, prop was cleaned (not the hull) same thing: 2500 rpm tied to the dock and only 2200 rpm at sea...

Seems to be the same for so many people...
What do we do wrong?

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/27/13, Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:37 PM


























Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over
propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the
boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that
the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and
push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea
conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to
move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self
adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having
mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel
pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is
clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is
very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you
for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)



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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

karkauai
 

When I told them about what AutoProp told me (that the prop I have was recommended for the 100HP) they said they had had no problems and put the same prop on all SMs with either the 78 or 100 HP engine. I recontacted Autoprop and talked to someone different who reneged on their previous statement.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Has anyone gone back to Amel and asked the questions?
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Currently Fiji


________________________________
From: Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@hotmail.com>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM


Miles
We are having the same discussion with Yanmar about the RPM. We are repowering from the Yanmar 75 to the 100HP. This engine has a rev point of 3200 vs 3800 on the 75HP. Autoprop in Nerwport have indicated the prop is too big and the blades should be shortened and the pitch changed. This is the only way Yanmar will warranty the engine.
Autoprop do not seem to appreciate what Amel has done. We indicated that the maximum RPM on the old engine was 3200.
You can call me at 941-323-7838

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM#362

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: mbidwell@attglobal.net
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:37:13 -0400
Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM






Hello all,

I think that you will find that the boat is not "over propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the boat.

I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you for unnecessary

work.

Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)

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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Has anyone gone back to Amel and asked the questions?
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Currently Fiji


________________________________
From: Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@hotmail.com>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM


Miles
We are having the same discussion with Yanmar about the RPM. We are repowering from the Yanmar 75 to the 100HP. This engine has a rev point of 3200 vs 3800 on the 75HP. Autoprop in Nerwport have indicated the prop is too big and the blades should be shortened and the pitch changed. This is the only way Yanmar will warranty the engine.
Autoprop do not seem to appreciate what Amel has done. We indicated that the maximum RPM on the old engine was 3200.
You can call me at 941-323-7838

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM#362

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: mbidwell@attglobal.net
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:37:13 -0400
Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM




















 


   
     
     
      Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over propped as it came

from Amel.  Someone who says it is does not understand the boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea conditions.  The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise.  I am now having mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel pump.  If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)



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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Miles
We are having the same discussion with Yanmar about the RPM. We are repowering from the Yanmar 75 to the 100HP. This engine has a rev point of 3200 vs 3800 on the 75HP. Autoprop in Nerwport have indicated the prop is too big and the blades should be shortened and the pitch changed. This is the only way Yanmar will warranty the engine.
Autoprop do not seem to appreciate what Amel has done. We indicated that the maximum RPM on the old engine was 3200.
You can call me at 941-323-7838

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM#362

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: mbidwell@attglobal.net
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:37:13 -0400
Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM


























Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)



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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

karkauai
 

Miles, I spent several thousands of dollars assuming that the boat was propped correctly from Amel. I read and gave their explanation to every mechanic who worked on the boat. Fairly early in the investigation, I even put the spare fixed prop on with the same low rpm result. I never saw over ~2300rpm and the turbo had to be replaced twice in about 4000 hrs of use. Several mechanics including Danny Ramos in Fajardo, PR (THE Volvo guy in the Caribbean) checked every thing on the engine several times, and all declared that there was nothing wrong with the engine. When I finally was talked into looking at the prop, and called the AutoProp people with the numbers off the prop, I was told that I had the prop recommended for the SM with the 100 HP Yanmar, not the 78 HP Volvo. I had the spare fixed prop measured at a reputable prop shop in Norfolk, and by their tables it, too, was too big and over pitched for my boat and 78 HP Volvo.

I had the spare cut down and repitched with excellent results (2900 rpm and 8+ kts). I then purchased a new MaxProp sized for an SM w 78HP Volvo, and after minor adjustment of the pitch got the same result.

I don't suggest that everyone with low rpm issues has the same problem, only that there is no doubt that I had the wrong props on my boat as delivered from Amel.

If I hadn't been so hard-headed about the prop being a possibility, I could have saved a lot of money and headache.

I suppose it is possible that the tolerances, when the prop and engine are new, are such that pushing the limits of the engine will get you up to 2800rpm. There are so many SMs with the 78 HP Volvo who are having the same problem, I am guessing that a tired engine or slightly-off Autoprop leaves them overpropped. So what then? I think changing the prop is a reasonable, albeit expensive, alternative. Running your Volvo at rpms too low to spool up the turbo is a recipe for other expensive repairs.

Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
On Aug 27, 2013, at 1:37 PM, "Miles Bidwell" <mbidwell@attglobal.net> wrote:

Hello all,

I think that you will find that the boat is not "over propped as it came
from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the boat.

I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that the engine and
prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and push the boat at
hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea conditions. The idea of
governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to move down the
torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self adjusting ability and
increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having mysterious problems with
the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel pump. If the
motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is clean with smooth
bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is very clean.
Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you for unnecessary
work.

Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)

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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi all, Miles, is correct and yes 2800 is what we get at full that is Amels settings. Should you be Having problems getting there they can be many fold. Most of them come from well minded persons who do or may not understand our yachts.
A good service person will collect facts first then sort out issues.
Running the boat at the dock is not a suggested means of testing the engine/prop. You need to have the boat underway.
On "older" boats ck for air and pressure leaks in the fuel system especially if you've have done work on the injection system. Air leaks can and do occur before you get fuel leaks. Keep it simple first.
Good luck to ALL

Regards
Capt Richard Piller
Fairbanks Yacht Group llc
Full brokerage and service for all yachts
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 27, 2013, at 13:53, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com> wrote:


Good afternoon MIle,

I agree this is hard to believe the Super Maramu could not exceed 2200 rpm out of the factory...

Were you ever able to reach 2800 rpm?

Last november had antifooling done and prop clean, tied at the dock the engine would reach 2500 rpm, but only 2200 rpm at sea...
2 weeks ago, I cleaned the turbo, prop was cleaned (not the hull) same thing: 2500 rpm tied to the dock and only 2200 rpm at sea...

Seems to be the same for so many people...
What do we do wrong?

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/27/13, Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@attglobal.net> wrote:

Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:37 PM


























Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over
propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the
boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that
the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and
push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea
conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to
move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self
adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having
mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel
pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is
clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is
very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you
for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)
































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Re: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon MIle,

I agree this is hard to believe the Super Maramu could not exceed 2200 rpm out of the factory...

Were you ever able to reach 2800 rpm?

Last november had antifooling done and prop clean, tied at the dock the engine would reach 2500 rpm, but only 2200 rpm at sea...
2 weeks ago, I cleaned the turbo, prop was cleaned (not the hull) same thing: 2500 rpm tied to the dock and only 2200 rpm at sea...

Seems to be the same for so many people...
What do we do wrong?


Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 8/27/13, Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@attglobal.net> wrote:

Subject: [Amel] Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:37 PM
















 









Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over
propped as it came

from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the
boat.



I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that
the engine and

prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and
push the boat at

hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea
conditions. The idea of

governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to
move down the

torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self
adjusting ability and

increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having
mysterious problems with

the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel
pump. If the

motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is
clean with smooth

bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is
very clean.

Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you
for unnecessary

work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)



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Re: [Amel] Re: Aft cabin RIB storage and launch system

Roy Duddy <RDuddy@...>
 

Billie,

I am interested in the B&G analog gauges. My contact info is below. Thank you.

Roy
On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Billie wrote:



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Billie" <harlowx@...> wrote:

I have a RIB launch and recovery system if anyone is interested.It has a roller setup which goes in the center removable rear life gate post.It's free and I can supply pictures. Also B&G analog gauges off 2005 54.
I posted some pictures
Roy Duddy
Duddy Law Offices
One Liberty Lane, Suite 256
Hampton, New Hampshire 03842
603-668-9000 Tel.
603-472-7333 Fax
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Re: Volvo Penta TMD22 Low RPM

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Hello all,



I think that you will find that the boat is not "over propped as it came
from Amel. Someone who says it is does not understand the boat.

I bought my Super Maramu new in 1998 and Amel explained that the engine and
prop were set to give the boat a maximum RPM of 2800 and push the boat at
hull speed which is about 8 knots depending on sea conditions. The idea of
governing the engine to less than its maximum rpms is to move down the
torque curve and take advantage of the auto-prop self adjusting ability and
increase mileage and reduce noise. I am now having mysterious problems with
the engine which may be related to the high pressure fuel pump. If the
motor is running as it should (a big if), and the prop is clean with smooth
bearings, it should run up to 2800 if the boat bottom is very clean.
Beware of shops that tell you otherwise and then charge you for unnecessary
work.



Miles (sm 216 Ladybug, Newport, RI)


Re: [Amel] Bearing sizes for Bow Thruster?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

All of the bearings!
I want to have spare bearings, seals, o rings, etc. for everything.

Thanks in advance! Alexandre



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On Mon, 8/26/13, Sailorman <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel] Bearing sizes for Bow Thruster?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 26, 2013, 7:16 PM
















 









Are you talking about the bearings in the lower
unit connected to the

propeller shaft?



Fair Winds



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:15 PM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Amel] Bearing sizes for Bow Thruster?



Does any one know for sure the bearing sizes for the bow
thruster?

I want to stock on spare parts.



Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Seabrook, Texas, USA



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Amel

Bob Hodgins <bobh@...>
 

Billie,
I am the owner of 2005 Amel 54 #31, currently on the hard in Grenada. I
am interested in your RIB launcher. Where are you?
I am also curious about your B&G analog gauges. What did you replace
them with? I am not happy with the analog but have not yet done anything.

Bob Hodgins
Gallivant
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*Bob Hodgins *
(800)666-8950 x217


Brushes size for the Leroy Somer electric motor?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Does anyone know the size or reference for the brushes for the Leroy Somer electric motor for the outhaul/main and genoa?

Stocking up spare.

Actually I am looking for all of the size of the brushes on all motors.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA


Re: [Amel] Bearing sizes for Bow Thruster?

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Are you talking about the bearings in the lower unit connected to the
propeller shaft?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Bearing sizes for Bow Thruster?





Does any one know for sure the bearing sizes for the bow thruster?
I want to stock on spare parts.

Thanks in advance.
Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA




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Bearing sizes for Bow Thruster?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Does any one know for sure the bearing sizes for the bow thruster?
I want to stock on spare parts.

Thanks in advance.
Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA