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Re: Main sheet traveler cars

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Bob,
 
We have Maramu #121 (1982) and we have only a single car on the main sheet traveller and I’m sure it’s original.  Don’t know if ours is more robust than yours and if yours was replaced at some time with another makers hardware.  What we did change was the purchase on the boom which was originally a single block and has been changed to three blocks.  At any rate, the single car we have has been sufficient thus far for our circumnavigation.  If you attach a photo of your setup I can tell if it is the same as ours.
 
Dennis Johns
s/v Libertad
Port Dickson, Malaysia


Re: [Amel] mast paint

Herbert Lackner
 

Craig and Pat,

 

thank you so much for your answers! We plan to move to nautec marina in monfalcone in april 2014 to leave „kali mera“ for the summer and to finish repairs before going west in autumn. I will ask for an offer and then we will se if we do the painting on our own.

 

I got an offer from ACMO but price increased to 6.500 eur for the material.   The rigger in croatia also said that „all the safety pins for connection oft he ACMO wires and new wire grips for spreader connections have to be installed because they suffer most oft he rigging tension and considering their age of 18 years it is unssafe to use them on the new rigging…“ .   I am not sure if that is true so we will get another offer in Italy in Monfalcone.  

 

We will start this project in spring in Italy J , right now we still have work with renewing the autopilot, HF, VHF…

 

Fair winds

 

Herbert

SN #120, 1995, kali mera, zadar

 

 

 

Von: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Im Auftrag von sangaris@...
Gesendet: Montag, 18. November 2013 15:38
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: RE: Re: [Amel] mast paint

 

 

Herbert,

Pat's instructions are excellent.  

 

If, however, you are looking for a company to do the work I'd recommend Marina Nautec Mare in Monfalcone, IT, a short sail north of you. Since Monfalcone is a huge commercial shipbuilding center the yacht yards have access to very skilled workers. We saw many completed paint jobs at Nautec Mare and all were superbly done - plus their prices are very good.

 

I am curious as to why your rigger wants to remove the masts (although it does sound like it is time to have them painted).  My wife and I replaced our rigging ourselves when we were at Nautec Mare by simply removing one or two stays at a ti me. Took our time over a couple of weeks.  If you are price shopping, we got everything from ACMO, Amel's original supplier who has all the exact measurements, including the "special" short turnbuckle you need to fit under the furler on the head stay. It was 4,800 Euros, including shipping to Monfalcone.  That included all swaged fittings and new turnbuckles.  If you are not into do-it-yourself installation, the Nautec Mare yard, of course, can do all the work, including painting.

 

Kali tihi with the project,

Craig Briggs,

SN #68, Sangaris - Marina di Ragusa, Italy (we're in FL, USA for the winter.) 

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote:

Herbert, I painted my mast two years ago doing my mizzen mast next spring. After taking all the hardware off the mast , wash the mast well, sand the mast  with 220 or 320 grit. If you find small areas where the paint has corrosion under it you need to sand that area down using a small orbital sander until it is shining and free of any corrosion. You need to undercoat those areas right away before they have a chance to oxidize. I know what I used was yellow , but cannot remember the name of the product. Consult with your paint supplier to find a undercoat compatible with your paint. I rolled and tipped my mast and it looks as if it were sprayed. Three years ago I rolled and tipped the topsides on my SM and my boat also looks as though as though it has been sprayed. The hull has a great shine and is very easy to clean as awlgrip is not porous like gelcoat. If you decide to r oll and tip , you would have the mast on saw horses and can only paint one side at a time. Use fine line tape and run tape down  the length of your mast on the front side of mast. The slot will be your break on the back side of mast. Make sure all tape edges are firmly in contact with mast as the paint is thin and can seep under the tape. Wipe down with acetone or a cleaner awlgrip sells. Use a four inch foam roller , one person rolls on the paint and another immediately very lightly passes over the paint with a foam brush or high quality brush to remove the bubbles, the paint then flows out to a smooth finish. Lightly sand out and apply second coat. Awlgrip dries very fast,may be able to do two coats per day. Do not paint early in the morning wait to it warms up or late in the day, apply last coat 3 or 4 hours before sunset or dew will make the paint dull and will require another coat. Turn mast over pull tape off ,retape along paint line. The paint is s o thin you will not hardly be able to see the fine line in the front of your mast. Painting your hull you do the same, with tape applied to the stem of the boat and the stern.

                                                                                                                                                                    & nbsp;     Hope this helps,

                                                                                                                                                                    & nbsp;          Pat

                                                                                                                                                                    & nbsp;  SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: herbert <
herbert@...>
To: amelyachtowners <
amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 2:44 am
Subject: [Amel] mast paint

 

we plan to change the standing rigging for our Santorin Kali Mera. The rigger told us that he has to lay down the mast for the rig exchange. At both masts the paint loses colour, if I touch it it is a little bit like white chalk on my hands. When the masts have to be removed it seems to be a good oportunity to fix that - has anyone repainted the masts - any recommendations? Is there something that I have to pay special attention?  Any recommendations for a company in the med (croatia, Italy)?

thanks for you help

herbert
SN 120 Kali Mera, Zadar


Re: [Amel] mast paint

Craig Briggs
 

Herbert,

Pat's instructions are excellent.  


If, however, you are looking for a company to do the work I'd recommend Marina Nautec Mare in Monfalcone, IT, a short sail north of you. Since Monfalcone is a huge commercial shipbuilding center the yacht yards have access to very skilled workers. We saw many completed paint jobs at Nautec Mare and all were superbly done - plus their prices are very good.


I am curious as to why your rigger wants to remove the masts (although it does sound like it is time to have them painted).  My wife and I replaced our rigging ourselves when we were at Nautec Mare by simply removing one or two stays at a time. Took our time over a couple of weeks.  If you are price shopping, we got everything from ACMO, Amel's original supplier who has all the exact measurements, including the "special" short turnbuckle you need to fit under the furler on the head stay. It was 4,800 Euros, including shipping to Monfalcone.  That included all swaged fittings and new turnbuckles.  If you are not into do-it-yourself installation, the Nautec Mare yard, of course, can do all the work, including painting.


Kali tihi with the project,

Craig Briggs,

SN #68, Sangaris - Marina di Ragusa, Italy (we're in FL, USA for the winter.) 




---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote:

Herbert, I painted my mast two years ago doing my mizzen mast next spring. After taking all the hardware off the mast , wash the mast well, sand the mast  with 220 or 320 grit. If you find small areas where the paint has corrosion under it you need to sand that area down using a small orbital sander until it is shining and free of any corrosion. You need to undercoat those areas right away before they have a chance to oxidize. I know what I used was yellow , but cannot remember the name of the product. Consult with your paint supplier to find a undercoat compatible with your paint. I rolled and tipped my mast and it looks as if it were sprayed. Three years ago I rolled and tipped the topsides on my SM and my boat also looks as though as though it has been sprayed. The hull has a great shine and is very easy to clean as awlgrip is not porous like gelcoat. If you decide to roll and tip , you would have the mast on saw horses and can only paint one side at a time. Use fine line tape and run tape down  the length of your mast on the front side of mast. The slot will be your break on the back side of mast. Make sure all tape edges are firmly in contact with mast as the paint is thin and can seep under the tape. Wipe down with acetone or a cleaner awlgrip sells. Use a four inch foam roller , one person rolls on the paint and another immediately very lightly passes over the paint with a foam brush or high quality brush to remove the bubbles, the paint then flows out to a smooth finish. Lightly sand out and apply second coat. Awlgrip dries very fast,may be able to do two coats per day. Do not paint early in the morning wait to it warms up or late in the day, apply last coat 3 or 4 hours before sunset or dew will make the paint dull and will require another coat. Turn mast over pull tape off ,retape along paint line. The paint is so thin you will not hardly be able to see the fine line in the front of your mast. Painting your hull you do the same, with tape applied to the stem of the boat and the stern.
                                                                                                                                                                          Hope this helps,
                                                                                                                                                                               Pat
                                                                                                                                                                       SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: herbert <herbert@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 2:44 am
Subject: [Amel] mast paint

 
we plan to change the standing rigging for our Santorin Kali Mera. The rigger told us that he has to lay down the mast for the rig exchange. At both masts the paint loses colour, if I touch it it is a little bit like white chalk on my hands. When the masts have to be removed it seems to be a good oportunity to fix that - has anyone repainted the masts - any recommendations? Is there something that I have to pay special attention?  Any recommendations for a company in the med (croatia, Italy)?

thanks for you help

herbert
SN 120 Kali Mera, Zadar


Re: [Amel] mast paint

Patrick McAneny
 

Herbert, I painted my mast two years ago doing my mizzen mast next spring. After taking all the hardware off the mast , wash the mast well, sand the mast  with 220 or 320 grit. If you find small areas where the paint has corrosion under it you need to sand that area down using a small orbital sander until it is shining and free of any corrosion. You need to undercoat those areas right away before they have a chance to oxidize. I know what I used was yellow , but cannot remember the name of the product. Consult with your paint supplier to find a undercoat compatible with your paint. I rolled and tipped my mast and it looks as if it were sprayed. Three years ago I rolled and tipped the topsides on my SM and my boat also looks as though as though it has been sprayed. The hull has a great shine and is very easy to clean as awlgrip is not porous like gelcoat. If you decide to roll and tip , you would have the mast on saw horses and can only paint one side at a time. Use fine line tape and run tape down  the length of your mast on the front side of mast. The slot will be your break on the back side of mast. Make sure all tape edges are firmly in contact with mast as the paint is thin and can seep under the tape. Wipe down with acetone or a cleaner awlgrip sells. Use a four inch foam roller , one person rolls on the paint and another immediately very lightly passes over the paint with a foam brush or high quality brush to remove the bubbles, the paint then flows out to a smooth finish. Lightly sand out and apply second coat. Awlgrip dries very fast,may be able to do two coats per day. Do not paint early in the morning wait to it warms up or late in the day, apply last coat 3 or 4 hours before sunset or dew will make the paint dull and will require another coat. Turn mast over pull tape off ,retape along paint line. The paint is so thin you will not hardly be able to see the fine line in the front of your mast. Painting your hull you do the same, with tape applied to the stem of the boat and the stern.
                                                                                                                                                                          Hope this helps,
                                                                                                                                                                               Pat
                                                                                                                                                                       SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: herbert <herbert@lackner.at>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 2:44 am
Subject: [Amel] mast paint

 
we plan to change the standing rigging for our Santorin Kali Mera. The rigger told us that he has to lay down the mast for the rig exchange. At both masts the paint loses colour, if I touch it it is a little bit like white chalk on my hands. When the masts have to be removed it seems to be a good oportunity to fix that - has anyone repainted the masts - any recommendations? Is there something that I have to pay special attention?  Any recommendations for a company in the med (croatia, Italy)?

thanks for you help

herbert
SN 120 Kali Mera, Zadar


mast paint

Herbert Lackner
 

we plan to change the standing rigging for our Santorin Kali Mera. The rigger told us that he has to lay down the mast for the rig exchange. At both masts the paint loses colour, if I touch it it is a little bit like white chalk on my hands. When the masts have to be removed it seems to be a good oportunity to fix that - has anyone repainted the masts - any recommendations? Is there something that I have to pay special attention?  Any recommendations for a company in the med (croatia, Italy)?

thanks for you help

herbert
SN 120 Kali Mera, Zadar


Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

yahoogroups@...
 

Kent,


I am in Turkey 7-8 hours ahead of you. Turkey cell phone is +90536 220 2645


Bill

BeBe, SM2k, #387

Fethiye, Turkey 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:

Bill, where are you.  Can I call you?
Kent 1 828 234 6819

From: "yahoogroups@..." <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
I changed the instructions for freezer removal because I missed screw #11...go to and download the first 3 photos...#2 photo is the one I changed


Sorry about that.

Bill
BeBe 
---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: Dessalinator model D50 50 l/h

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Gary,

 

Thanks for the heads-up regarding the Sapphire Beach Marina. I have not been there before and appreciate the good advice. I have talked with Niles on the telephone and he was quite complimentary about you too!  

 

Bailey's Boatyard is in North end of Antigua's Falmouth Harbor, right next to the Catamaran Hotel and the Catamaran Marina (both also owned by Mr. Bailey).  Bailey's Boatyard has steel cradles that looked to me to be especially strong and secure for hurricane season. Like the Sapphire Beach Marina, the haul-out slip is subject to stiff cross-winds - thank goodness for the bow-thruster!

 

Do you usually go on the hard in Jolly Harbor?  That seemed to be the other good choice when I was doing my research.

 

Derick

 

SM2K #400 Brava

Currently on the hard in Bailey's Boatyard in Antigua

As of January 5th 2013 Sapphire Beach Marina

 

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <derickgates@...> wrote:

 Gary,

 

Thanks for the great explanation of a simple timed fresh water flush system for the Dessalator membranes.  In sending for the timer using your link, I note that it refers to a 24 Volt AC timer.  Can I safely assume that you meant to refer to a 24 Volt DC timer?  Here is the corresponding 24 Volt DC link that I found:

 

http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/super-feed_com/-strse-30/DT-dsh-06-fdsh--24-VOLT-DC/Detail

 

Same price, same functionality, I believe.

 

Derick Gates

Amel SM #400

s/v Brava

Currently on the hard at Bailey's Boatyard in Antigua

As of January 4th, 2013, Sapphire Beach Marina, St. Thomas USVI

 


Main sheet traveler cars

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

I have one broken car ( they are set up in tandem) and would like to know if one car will support the load on the main.

Has anyone else had this problem? I have a 1985 Maramu, him 173.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Bob
SV Chara


Re: [Amel] Cha cha cha changes

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Our SM is the last one before the SM2K so we have a lot of things on our that was test for the SM2000. But still there is hugh difference between a SM and a SM2K as it is on a SM from 1990 and ours from 1998

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila

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16 nov 2013 kl. 15:37 skrev "Joel F Potter" <jfpottercys@...>:

 

I can definitely assure everyone that all Amel’s of any model are not identical! Most major changes happened in September of each year after the August holiday/vacation period, when production on the next model year commenced. However, there are improvements and running changes throughout the year as suppliers changed equipment or the need for a modification made itself known. One good thing to keep in mind is, to the best of my knowledge, no change or modification was ever made specifically and only because of ‘cost’. While no one is perfect, Amel really does ‘sweat the small stuff’ and I never cease to be amazed at the deliberations that take place at every level, from the design office on through the sales office and finally to the production department when changes do occur. Every change is deeply considered, and then considered again. Having been fortunate to sell hundreds of new and used Amel Super Maramu’s over the years, I wished I would have kept a diary of all the changes as they occurred. I have notes on most of the big ones but the small changes have not been recorded in my files. Shoulda woulda coulda.  

 

All the best,

Joel

 

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301

Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485

Email:  jfpottercys@...

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.

 

So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

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16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:

 

Ann-Sofie,

 

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

 

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

 

Bill

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila SM #232

In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....

 



Skickat från min iPad


16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 

 


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Re: [Amel] Cha cha cha changes

karkauai
 

Hi, Joel,
I'm glad you jumped in here. I feel like I'm just missing something in trying to remove the aft fridge/freezer to access the forward water tank.  Can you tell me if the wooden panel at the inboard end of the box is removed with the forward panel under the dining table (where your feet are when sitting at the table)?  If not, does the corner piece come out with the forward panel or does it stay with the end panel?  I feel like it's stuck all across the inboard end as I can't budge it where it attaches to the corner post of the fixed panel by the washer dryer, and I can't budge the corner where the end panel and forward  panel meet.
Thanks for  any suggestions.
Kent
 
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA

From: Joel F Potter
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:36 AM
Subject: [Amel] Cha cha cha changes
 
I can definitely assure everyone that all Amel’s of any model are not identical! Most major changes happened in September of each year after the August holiday/vacation period, when production on the next model year commenced. However, there are improvements and running changes throughout the year as suppliers changed equipment or the need for a modification made itself known. One good thing to keep in mind is, to the best of my knowledge, no change or modification was ever made specifically and only because of ‘cost’. While no one is perfect, Amel really does ‘sweat the small stuff’ and I never cease to be amazed at the deliberations that take place at every level, from the design office on through the sales office and finally to the production department when changes do occur. Every change is deeply considered, and then considered again. Having been fortunate to sell hundreds of new and used Amel Super Maramu’s over the years, I wished I would have kept a diary of all the changes as they occurred. I have notes on most of the big ones but the small changes have not been recorded in my files. Shoulda woulda coulda.  
 
All the best,
Joel
 
Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301
Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.
 
So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.
 
/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

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16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:
 
Ann-Sofie,
 
I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.
 
I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?
 
Bill
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr
 
/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....
 


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 
 
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Cha cha cha changes

amelforme
 

I can definitely assure everyone that all Amel’s of any model are not identical! Most major changes happened in September of each year after the August holiday/vacation period, when production on the next model year commenced. However, there are improvements and running changes throughout the year as suppliers changed equipment or the need for a modification made itself known. One good thing to keep in mind is, to the best of my knowledge, no change or modification was ever made specifically and only because of ‘cost’. While no one is perfect, Amel really does ‘sweat the small stuff’ and I never cease to be amazed at the deliberations that take place at every level, from the design office on through the sales office and finally to the production department when changes do occur. Every change is deeply considered, and then considered again. Having been fortunate to sell hundreds of new and used Amel Super Maramu’s over the years, I wished I would have kept a diary of all the changes as they occurred. I have notes on most of the big ones but the small changes have not been recorded in my files. Shoulda woulda coulda.  

 

All the best,

Joel

 

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301

Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485

Email:  jfpottercys@...

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.

 

So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

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16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:

 

Ann-Sofie,

 

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

 

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

 

Bill

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila SM #232

In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....

 



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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 

 


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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.

So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

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16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:

 

Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....



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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 



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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Bill, where are you.  Can I call you?
Kent 1 828 234 6819

From: "yahoogroups@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
I changed the instructions for freezer removal because I missed screw #11...go to and download the first 3 photos...#2 photo is the one I changed


Sorry about that.

Bill
BeBe 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Manual Bilge Pump, Super Maramu

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Trevor, Many apologies for this belated reply to your kind offer but dismantling the pump was not the problem. We could not see how to remove the pump from it’s mounting in the cockpit floor. However Anne has managed it by removing the four bolts in the floor only two of which had nuts on them and also removing a bolt on the horizontal plane. Very grateful to you for your kind offer.
 
                              Anne and John,    Bali Hai   SM 319   For sale in Malta
 

Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: [Amel] RE: Manual Bilge Pump, Super Maramu
 
 

Dear Anne and John,

                              I'm in Northern Ireland, the Whale factory is twenty miles away. if you can send me the model number I will call them or drive over and see if I can get you some instructions.

Regards,

Trevor lusty

Seafever of CuanSM 425

Ireland



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

We have a problem with the Whale manual bilge pump. There is an internal link between the handle and the diaphragm and is has broken. We have got a spare but cannot see how to get at the pump to fix it. Has anyone done this and if so please tell us how it is done.

         Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K  319,  Malta


Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Hi, Bill,
I guess I'm confused. So the wooden panel where your feet are when sitting on the dinette seat comes out with the freezer, but the panel at the inboard end stays where it is and the freezer lifts out?  Do I have to remove the latch?
Thanks again,
Kent
 
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

yahoogroups@...
 

I changed the instructions for freezer removal because I missed screw #11...go to and download the first 3 photos...#2 photo is the one I changed


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/364756240


Sorry about that.


Bill

BeBe 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill



On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill



On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


Skickat från min iPad
16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....



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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 



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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....



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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA