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Main sheet traveler cars

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

I have one broken car ( they are set up in tandem) and would like to know if one car will support the load on the main.

Has anyone else had this problem? I have a 1985 Maramu, him 173.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Bob
SV Chara


Re: [Amel] Cha cha cha changes

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Our SM is the last one before the SM2K so we have a lot of things on our that was test for the SM2000. But still there is hugh difference between a SM and a SM2K as it is on a SM from 1990 and ours from 1998

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila

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16 nov 2013 kl. 15:37 skrev "Joel F Potter" <jfpottercys@...>:

 

I can definitely assure everyone that all Amel’s of any model are not identical! Most major changes happened in September of each year after the August holiday/vacation period, when production on the next model year commenced. However, there are improvements and running changes throughout the year as suppliers changed equipment or the need for a modification made itself known. One good thing to keep in mind is, to the best of my knowledge, no change or modification was ever made specifically and only because of ‘cost’. While no one is perfect, Amel really does ‘sweat the small stuff’ and I never cease to be amazed at the deliberations that take place at every level, from the design office on through the sales office and finally to the production department when changes do occur. Every change is deeply considered, and then considered again. Having been fortunate to sell hundreds of new and used Amel Super Maramu’s over the years, I wished I would have kept a diary of all the changes as they occurred. I have notes on most of the big ones but the small changes have not been recorded in my files. Shoulda woulda coulda.  

 

All the best,

Joel

 

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301

Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485

Email:  jfpottercys@...

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.

 

So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

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16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:

 

Ann-Sofie,

 

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

 

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

 

Bill

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila SM #232

In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....

 



Skickat från min iPad


16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 

 


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Re: [Amel] Cha cha cha changes

karkauai
 

Hi, Joel,
I'm glad you jumped in here. I feel like I'm just missing something in trying to remove the aft fridge/freezer to access the forward water tank.  Can you tell me if the wooden panel at the inboard end of the box is removed with the forward panel under the dining table (where your feet are when sitting at the table)?  If not, does the corner piece come out with the forward panel or does it stay with the end panel?  I feel like it's stuck all across the inboard end as I can't budge it where it attaches to the corner post of the fixed panel by the washer dryer, and I can't budge the corner where the end panel and forward  panel meet.
Thanks for  any suggestions.
Kent
 
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA

From: Joel F Potter
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:36 AM
Subject: [Amel] Cha cha cha changes
 
I can definitely assure everyone that all Amel’s of any model are not identical! Most major changes happened in September of each year after the August holiday/vacation period, when production on the next model year commenced. However, there are improvements and running changes throughout the year as suppliers changed equipment or the need for a modification made itself known. One good thing to keep in mind is, to the best of my knowledge, no change or modification was ever made specifically and only because of ‘cost’. While no one is perfect, Amel really does ‘sweat the small stuff’ and I never cease to be amazed at the deliberations that take place at every level, from the design office on through the sales office and finally to the production department when changes do occur. Every change is deeply considered, and then considered again. Having been fortunate to sell hundreds of new and used Amel Super Maramu’s over the years, I wished I would have kept a diary of all the changes as they occurred. I have notes on most of the big ones but the small changes have not been recorded in my files. Shoulda woulda coulda.  
 
All the best,
Joel
 
Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301
Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.
 
So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.
 
/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

Skickat från min iPad

16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:
 
Ann-Sofie,
 
I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.
 
I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?
 
Bill
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr
 
/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....
 


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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 
 
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Cha cha cha changes

amelforme
 

I can definitely assure everyone that all Amel’s of any model are not identical! Most major changes happened in September of each year after the August holiday/vacation period, when production on the next model year commenced. However, there are improvements and running changes throughout the year as suppliers changed equipment or the need for a modification made itself known. One good thing to keep in mind is, to the best of my knowledge, no change or modification was ever made specifically and only because of ‘cost’. While no one is perfect, Amel really does ‘sweat the small stuff’ and I never cease to be amazed at the deliberations that take place at every level, from the design office on through the sales office and finally to the production department when changes do occur. Every change is deeply considered, and then considered again. Having been fortunate to sell hundreds of new and used Amel Super Maramu’s over the years, I wished I would have kept a diary of all the changes as they occurred. I have notes on most of the big ones but the small changes have not been recorded in my files. Shoulda woulda coulda.  

 

All the best,

Joel

 

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301

Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485

Email:  jfpottercys@...

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.

 

So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

Skickat från min iPad


16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:

 

Ann-Sofie,

 

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

 

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

 

Bill

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

 

/Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila SM #232

In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....

 



Skickat från min iPad


16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 

 


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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We did study your description very thouroghly but the boats are not identical, even if Amel say so. I don't remember how many screws we removed but it was a lot.

So we jst accepted the fact that we can't remove it, even if that freeze/fridge need new insulation as well.

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

Skickat från min iPad

16 nov 2013 kl. 10:02 skrev "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...>:

 

Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....



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16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 



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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Bill, where are you.  Can I call you?
Kent 1 828 234 6819

From: "yahoogroups@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
I changed the instructions for freezer removal because I missed screw #11...go to and download the first 3 photos...#2 photo is the one I changed


Sorry about that.

Bill
BeBe 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


Skickat från min iPad
16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Manual Bilge Pump, Super Maramu

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Trevor, Many apologies for this belated reply to your kind offer but dismantling the pump was not the problem. We could not see how to remove the pump from it’s mounting in the cockpit floor. However Anne has managed it by removing the four bolts in the floor only two of which had nuts on them and also removing a bolt on the horizontal plane. Very grateful to you for your kind offer.
 
                              Anne and John,    Bali Hai   SM 319   For sale in Malta
 

Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: [Amel] RE: Manual Bilge Pump, Super Maramu
 
 

Dear Anne and John,

                              I'm in Northern Ireland, the Whale factory is twenty miles away. if you can send me the model number I will call them or drive over and see if I can get you some instructions.

Regards,

Trevor lusty

Seafever of CuanSM 425

Ireland



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

We have a problem with the Whale manual bilge pump. There is an internal link between the handle and the diaphragm and is has broken. We have got a spare but cannot see how to get at the pump to fix it. Has anyone done this and if so please tell us how it is done.

         Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K  319,  Malta


Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Hi, Bill,
I guess I'm confused. So the wooden panel where your feet are when sitting on the dinette seat comes out with the freezer, but the panel at the inboard end stays where it is and the freezer lifts out?  Do I have to remove the latch?
Thanks again,
Kent
 
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


Skickat från min iPad
16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

yahoogroups@...
 

I changed the instructions for freezer removal because I missed screw #11...go to and download the first 3 photos...#2 photo is the one I changed


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/364756240


Sorry about that.


Bill

BeBe 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill



On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


Skickat från min iPad
16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I see I missed screw #11. Take it out!

It is very close to the top lock.

I will add a photo

Bill



On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


Skickat från min iPad
16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill.  I'm having trouble getting it out, too.  Like you I thought it was all glassed in.  I gave it a good heave-ho and can raise the outboard end a little, but the inboard end won't budge...even a smidge.  I've tried getting a screwdriver between the wooden panel and the lip of the bilge storage area under the dining table to get a little purchase, but still no-go.  There doesn't appear to be anything holding it down from underneath, but the wooden panel in the walkway still seems to be fastened down somehow.  Anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 
But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....


Skickat från min iPad
16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:
 
Bill,
Would you please send the info for me also?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks
 
 
Kent,
 
I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.
 
I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.
 
Bill
BeBe
 
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:
After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:
Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA
 

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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ann-Sofie,

I thought the same thing when I was doing it...it looked like it was "glassed" to the hull. It is a very tight fit...when I finally had all of the 10 screws removed, it came up, but it was hard, almost like it was stuck...and it was hard to get back in place because it was so tight.

I hope that I did not leave anything out. I count 10 screws that must be removed...did you remove 10 screws and are you sure that they were the correct 10 screws according to the photo?

Bill


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:
 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....



Skickat från min iPad

16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 



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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

But it is not shure that you sucseed in your mission, even with Bill's eminent description. On our SM no 232, someone has very thouroghly put plastic over everything so we can't lift the aft fridge/freeze unless we demolate the whole interior in that part.....  Grrrrrrrrrr

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM #232
In Canary Islands, just 1 month from the crossing....



Skickat från min iPad

16 nov 2013 kl. 05:10 skrev "Sailorman" <kimberlite@...>:

 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 


Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

yahoogroups@...
 

All,


I just noticed that there is now an alphabetical sort for photos.


You will find my write up on cleaning the fresh water tanks in the album "Fresh Water System" at http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/364756240


I think this is a good time to ask each of you to name your albums logically so that we can have a chance of finding them in the future.


Bill 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto: amelyachtowners@... ] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent ,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka !....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA , USA

 



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Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Eric Freedman
 

Bill,

Would you please send the info for me also?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 

 

Kent,

 

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

 

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.

There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?

Thanks and happy holidays to all.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

Hi again, gang.

I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.

 

I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Kent

SM243 Kristy

Brunswick, GA, USA

 


Re: [Amel] RE: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I wrote the instructions and I have a heck of a time finding anything in the photo section.

I sent you a private email with the instructions attached.

Bill
BeBe


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:

After wrestling with my tanks for a whole weekend last month, and little success, I left the boat for a month with 2 gallons of bleach in a full tank.  Just got back today and Eureka!....the mold is gone.  I've pressure sprayed and flushed the center and aft tanks and completely drained them and don't see any evidence of mold now.  I'm getting ready to tackle the forward tank, but can't find the instructions on removing the fridge/freezer that someone (Gary?) wrote a while back.
There are a row of bolts along the aft edge of the unit that go thru the stationary panel by the washer/dryer and two more that look like they should go thru the back of the first cabinet, but there are no bolts showing through.  There is another row of screws along the top edge of the seat.  I can't tell how the compressor is attached to the cooler box except that the tubing goes thru a sealed hole in the port side of the box.  Does the whole unit come out as one piece?  What else am I missing?
Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA
 
 
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

Hi again, gang.
I'm cleaning my fresh water tanks for the first time, don't know if the previous owner ever did it.  I've accessed the center tank (under the galley sole) and the aft tank (under the galley fridge).  There are a fair amount of mildew/mold spots that are tightly adhered to the inside of the tank, and after filling the tank with a fairly potent bleach mixture I'm still finding it impossible to get it cleaned off.  Is there any kind of chemical that can be used other than bleach that would work better and be safe?  Given the difficult access and impossibility of getting good pressure with a stiff brush, I'm running out of ideas.
 
I tried to access old files and photos (used Bill's suggestions) and can't seem to get them.  Also still can't reply to an existing thread (nothing happens when I click on "reply")
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA, USA



Re: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

Follow up on my moldy water tank problem:


Re: [Amel] Batteries

karkauai
 

I use lead acid batteries on SM243 and get about 2 1/2 years out of them.  Make sure your charger isn't cooking them with too high a charging voltage when they are full...that happened to me with my last set of batteries and had to replace the charger.  Was lucky I didn't have a fire.'
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



From: "crwggb@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:22 AM
Subject: [Amel] Batteries

 
I have Trojan Lead acid batteries on my SM SULA. the first set I owned lasted 7 years which by all account is pretty good. The boat was kept predominantly in Northern Europe and was was plugged into shore power throughout the winter whilst ashore.

Sula is now based in HK and got a new set of batteries (Trojans again) when she arrived. She is now in commission 12 months of the year being used regularly and rarely gets plugged into shore power. It is obviously very hot in HK for most of the year. the batteries have crashed after only 2 1/2 years. I was somewhat disappointed with this short life until I read the SM owners manual posted here recently, which stated that 1 1/2 years would be the life expectancy!
 
I was wondering what other folks experience has been with their batteries. Sula's have always been meticulously maintained, topped up and left fully charged when leaving the boat after use.

Graham Boyd
SM140 Sula
Hong Kong



Re: Dessalinator model D50 50 l/h

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Derick:


OOPS!,  Yes, indeed, I posted the wrong link.  Thanks for catching that and posting the correct one. 


Gary Silver


PS Where is Bailey's Boatyard?  I should know as I have been on the hard in Antigua for more than 5 seasons. 

Also, say Hi to Niles Peasall at Sapphire Beach Marina for me when you see him. Liahona was berthed there all of last season with Niles doing the care taking.  Great guy!!!  Extremely helpful.  Don't know if you have been in that marina before but if not, make sure to go in when the winds aren't too high as it is a little bit of tight quarters and can be tricky getting into the somewhat narrow slips with a strong cross wind.  I have seen a couple of accidents with some boats damaged.  Niles can be hailed to help out using his dinghy with its bow bumper to act as a tug boat and help get in the slip if the cross winds are high.



---In amelyachtowners@..., <derickgates@...> wrote:

 Gary,

 

Thanks for the great explanation of a simple timed fresh water flush system for the Dessalator membranes.  In sending for the timer using your link, I note that it refers to a 24 Volt AC timer.  Can I safely assume that you meant to refer to a 24 Volt DC timer?  Here is the corresponding 24 Volt DC link that I found:

 

http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/super-feed_com/-strse-30/DT-dsh-06-fdsh--24-VOLT-DC/Detail

 

Same price, same functionality, I believe.

 

Derick Gates

Amel SM #400

s/v Brava

Currently on the hard at Bailey's Boatyard in Antigua

As of January 4th, 2013, Sapphire Beach Marina, St. Thomas USVI

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <no_reply@...> wrote:

H Jonas:

Regarding the timer flush system that I hooked up: I purchased one of these

http://prostores1.carrierzone.com/servlet/super-feed_com/-strse-96/DT-dsh-05-fdsh--24-Volt-AC/Detail

I hope that link will post. If not, just google "24 volt fish feeder timer" or something like that and you will come across some 24 volt 7 day timers. The one mentioned above was about $35.00 US. This one was rated at 16 amps and had an internal battery backup. Since I wasn't exactly sure of the current draw of the fresh water pump on my boat I hooked the output of the timer to a 28 volt relay that was rated at a much higher amperage. I don't have the specification of the relay, but it was about $15.00 US at the local chandlery and its contacts were rated at 50 amps or something like that. So the timer controls the relay, that regulates power to the fresh water pump. At any rate, in the area behind the 24 volt breaker panel is a terminal block with a cover for 24 volt power. I wired the timer to this source, I then cut the wire from the breaker for the fresh water pump and wired it through the contacts of the relay. The control coil of the relay is controlled by 24 volt power from the control contacts of the timer (ganged relays). (I will try and post a schematic of this wiring in the Dessalator photos folder). The timer has a switch for "On" or "Timer" mode. When aboard the boat, we place that switch in the ON position and the fresh water pump operates as normal with the pressure switch on the pump functioning as usual. When we leave the boat, we make sure the water tank is full, switch the flush valve on the water maker low pressure pump to the flush position, and set the timer to the TIMER mode. We program the timer to flush for 5 minutes every other or every third day. 5 minutes of flush every third day will use about 500 to 700 liters of fresh water in 6 months. Your results may vary and you should actually time and measure how much flush water will pass through your system by collecting and measuring how much water comes out the thru hull fitting on the port side of the hull. At the programmed time, the timer contacts close sending 24 volts to the relay coil. This causes the relay coil to actuate and the relay contacts close, sending 24 volt power to the fresh water pump, The pump actuates for 5 minutes, sending fresh water thru the water maker system (flushes the low pressure pump, the series of filters, the high pressure pump, the membranes and the plumbing of the control panel). It has worked for 5 years without fail. I have a small portable solar panel that I leave out when off the boat to trickle charge the batteries and this has always kept up with the energy needs of the brief run cycles of the pump.

My only concern was having to leave the main 24 volt power switches on the battery bank in the on position when I leave the boat. I do make sure that every other breaker on the boat is turned off, including (1) the breakers in the engine room, (2) forward cabin, (3) beneath the nav station, (4) in the hanging locker by the nav station, and (5) above the overhead of the quarter berth, (6) all the 24 volt panel breakers except the bilge pump and fresh water pump. A potential failure mode would be if the timer or ganged-relay failed in the "on" position. In that case the pump would actuate until the water tanks were empty and them might continue to run until pump failure or battery depletion. I have toyed with installing some sort of "run-on" sensor that would time out the system and turn it off if the pump ran too long. I just haven't gotten around to that yet.

To flush with the water maker on or off is an interesting discussion. I have always flushed with the water maker off except when I am flushing the entire sea-chest/manifold system when leaving the boat. In that case I put the hose from shore water source in to the sea-chest and turn the water maker on. I have yet to find a source of water strong enough to keep up with the water maker's need for water. I have to cycle the water maker on and off to prevent it from sucking air from the sea chest. I can see why flushing with the system running would give more through-put of flush water and thus do a more thorough flush, but having the high pressure pump cavitate with air is supposedly damaging to that pump. Perhaps you can keep up with the feed water needs of the lower capacity water maker using shore water to flush but I cannot.

Nice chatting with you Jonas. I will post an alert when I post the schematic of the timer modification in the photo's section.

Sincerely,

Gary Silver
Amel SM #335
s/v Liahona
Sint Maartin Dutch West Indies


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> thank you for a fact oriented and short answer. I totally share your opinion regarding how to deal with the WM and was not aware of the Sodium meta-bisulfite. Have not used it and will probably not do it either. I am really interested in your automatic rinsing solution, could you please send some additional info regarding this, it will be most appreciated.
> I think I have solved the major question regarding the rinsing, in the Amel manual for this boat it says that the Dessalator unit should be tunred off but in the official info from Dessalator it says that it should be on but without pressure(the D50 has no automatic rinsing function). Doing the rinsing with the unit on gave a much better quality of the produced water than having it off. We now produce water with approx. 250 PTS level(using a Com 100) which I think is ok.
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> Once again, thank you for a fast and very good answer!
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> All the best from a cloudy but warm island of Brac, Croatia
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> S/Y Lady Annila
> SM # 232
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Re: Batteries

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Graham:


Heat and usage, along with the type of usage, and the type of batteries is what eventually leads to their demise.  There are only so many charge-discharge cycles stored in a battery and the more of those cycles used over a give time frame will hasten their "consumption".  Proper charging and battery maintenance also impact batteries and varies depending on the type of battery.  I think that if you had good service for 2.5 years in hot conditions with frequent use of flooded lead acid batteries such as your Trojans, that is about all you can expect.  Frequent charging, minimal discharging, careful maintenance etc will yield greater longevity.  I have Trojans aboard my boat and I find that it is a constant battle to keep the water levels topped up in the heat of the Caribbean. I think the Trojans battery cap design is not the best.  I have to add significant amounts of distilled water every month.  When I leave the boat on the hard, I have solar panels trickle charge them, but still have the caretaker plug the boat in for 6 hours one a month for a better top-up and also service the water level every month.  I only use the boat for about 3 months a year, and with this regimen I get about 4 years from a set of batteries.  Sad but true, the heat, the cycling, the motion etc, all take their toll.


Sincerely, 


Gary Silver

s/v Liahona 

Amel SM Hull # 335

On the hard in Antigua 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi have you had the batteries load tested?  
When you say the boat is in use, what is the major method of charge the motor or gen set. 
The alternators on the motor will most likely not top off the charge. (Note the number of over 50% discharges have a lot to do with battery life as does the quality of water used to refill them) 
The gen set by way of a smart charger will top off the batteries then "float" charge. (Given you are in HK it is also important you don't over heat the battery bank. Most new smart chargers have a temp sensor that sits on top along side the batteries. 
Go luck keeps up to date.

Regards
Richard Piller 
Fairbanks Yacht Group llc
Support and Sales in the Northeaster US
Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:22, <crwggb@...> wrote:

 

I have Trojan Lead acid batteries on my SM SULA. the first set I owned lasted 7 years which by all account is pretty good. The boat was kept predominantly in Northern Europe and was was plugged into shore power throughout the winter whilst ashore.

Sula is now based in HK and got a new set of batteries (Trojans again) when she arrived. She is now in commission 12 months of the year being used regularly and rarely gets plugged into shore power. It is obviously very hot in HK for most of the year. the batteries have crashed after only 2 1/2 years. I was somewhat disappointed with this short life until I read the SM owners manual posted here recently, which stated that 1 1/2 years would be the life expectancy!

 

I was wondering what other folks experience has been with their batteries. Sula's have always been meticulously maintained, topped up and left fully charged when leaving the boat after use.

Graham Boyd

SM140 Sula

Hong Kong