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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24 Volt Airpump for Dingi

r.zurkirchen
 

The first thing I did,was to ask Amel in Hyeres.
They told me, that there dont supply anymore this pumps, as it is
a "bricolage".
I should look on the market, were 24 V Airpumps should existe. (
other amelowners seems to be buying those). I could not get an
adress so far from anyone, neither found I this feature in the
internet.



-- In amelyachtowners@..., "Jerome Le Conte" <JLC@N...>
wrote:
Why don't you ask Amel ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "rzurkirchen2003" <r.zurkirchen@v...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24 Volt Airpump for Dingi


Hi to all,
is there anyone who has a suplyer adress for 24 Volt Dingipump,
The
one Amel delivered, is now out of order.
Thanks for Infos
Rudy
SAMANTHA SM#407






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Prop Replacement

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

Thanks everyone, for your advice and ideas on bow-thruster
replacement without short hauling the boat--I did replace it in the
water.

Everyone's advice was valid, but I thought I would share my
experience and ideas.

I was able to drive the old pin out, using a correctly sized
Craftsman punch with small taps from a hammer and grabing the end
with a Vice-Grip and twist/pulling it out the other end. Believe it
or not, I was able to do this hanging off my dingy with my son
holding the dingy into the boat. However, a better way, and one I
had to resort to to attach the prop--was simply floating next to the
bowthruster while wearing a PFD and reaching down with both hands to
work on it. I started out with a snorkle and mask but found (perhaps
due to the opacity of Chesapeake Bay water) that floating with the
head above water was easier.

First I hauled the thruster up about 2" to make it more accessable
under water--you only need access to the hub and this helps a little.
Next, I lightly sanded the inside edge of the prop that pushes onto
the collar and lubed the inside of this area of the prop with
Lanocoat. This helped it slide on easier and allowed me to rotate
it on the hub to line-up the six holes. I tied a keeper line around
one blade of the prop. Because it tapers out larger, this secures
the pricey little guy! I also had used a small nylon string to do
the same thing with the white collar by going through one of the
threaded holes. Working with both hands, I think that the best way
to push the prop on is to grab around the thruster with the fingers
of both hands and push the prop on simultaneously with both thumbs.
Lining up the six holes in the prop with the white collar was the
toughest task for me. I found that I had to back the prop off the
hub about half way and line up the holes with the punch and then ush
it on completly. Otherwise the prop and drive rotate together and I
could not line up the holes. Because the punch was smaller than the
holes I had to work it around in a circular motion to line up one of
the holes correctly. A better guide, like a plastic pen body might
be better. Lining up the holes was by far the most difficult task--
if you are in clear water, a snorkle and mask might let you do it
visually, but not in the Chesapeake! I had my son stand above me on
the deck and lower parts down with a bucket (including the nylon
screws--one at a time.

It wasn't too bad, but I will be buying the special tool. It sounds
like it is very useful if there are any complications, and of-course
could allow you to replace a seal or chack/change the 90wt oil.
Joel told me by phone that he has the process down to about 30
minutes.

Bob
Santorin Hull#86 Brittany de la Mer



--- In amelyachtowners@..., eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote:
Using the amel tool it takes about an hour and a half.

My problem with changing the prop under water was that the
stainless pin had
twisted into the holder and had to be cut out of the plastic- when
I removed
the thruster to the deck it was a very simple job.

Fair winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite.



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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of rossirossix4
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Prop Replacement



I've lost my bow thruster prop. Does anyone have experience in
removing the bow thruster foot or replacing the prop without
taking
the boat out of the water? I see that amel sells a kit for doing
this. Is it worth getting (vs paying for a haul). I read a
comment
somewhere that it was hard to do. I'm trying to decide if I
should
haul it (I just put it in) or wait for the special device from
Amel.

Also, can someone give me detailed instructions on replacing the
prop? Seems like removing the screws, if they have sheared off,
could
be a problem.

Thanks.

Bob





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Prop Replacement

eric freedman
 

Using the amel tool it takes about an hour and a half.

My problem with changing the prop under water was that the stainless pin had
twisted into the holder and had to be cut out of the plastic- when I removed
the thruster to the deck it was a very simple job.

Fair winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite.



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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of rossirossix4
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Prop Replacement



I've lost my bow thruster prop. Does anyone have experience in
removing the bow thruster foot or replacing the prop without taking
the boat out of the water? I see that amel sells a kit for doing
this. Is it worth getting (vs paying for a haul). I read a comment
somewhere that it was hard to do. I'm trying to decide if I should
haul it (I just put it in) or wait for the special device from Amel.

Also, can someone give me detailed instructions on replacing the
prop? Seems like removing the screws, if they have sheared off, could
be a problem.

Thanks.

Bob





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Re: Kirk for sale

syhanaleism <syhanaleism@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., sm2000206 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
Amel Kirk, 78 / 229, only one Swiss owner, Lake of Constance, teak
deck, many extras, fine condition; EUR 40'000.--; please ask for
documentation.
More details please! - Thank you!
Regards
REB


24 volt airpump for dinghy

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hello Rudi,
The pump Amel supplies is a very clever adaptation which combines two
12 volt pumps wiring them in series to use 24 volts. They are made in
the UK and used to be very expensive at about £35 per pump.
They are available from sales@... but the bad news is that
they are now grossly overpriced at £69.85 each incl.VAT but not
postage. You would then have the problem of joining them together
Amel fashion.
I assume that you have had an technician look at the damaged one?

Good luck with the problem, Anne and John, Bali Hai,SM319


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24 Volt Airpump for Dingi

Jerome Le Conte <JLC@...>
 

Why don't you ask Amel ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "rzurkirchen2003" <r.zurkirchen@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24 Volt Airpump for Dingi


Hi to all,
is there anyone who has a suplyer adress for 24 Volt Dingipump, The one Amel delivered, is now out of order.
Thanks for Infos
Rudy
SAMANTHA SM#407
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24 Volt Airpump for Dingi

r.zurkirchen
 

Hi to all,
is there anyone who has a suplyer adress for 24 Volt Dingipump, The
one Amel delivered, is now out of order.
Thanks for Infos
Rudy
SAMANTHA SM#407


Re: Message index

Zanareva
 

Anne and John,

I am checking into this with Yahoo. Right now I don't see this as any
standard feature of Yahoo Groups.

Sounds like you would like more than what the SEARCH feature provides.

Richard


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<hollamby@c...> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Is there any way in which the 1500+ messages can be indexed to make
it
possible to see whether any particular subject has already been
explored. The French Amel site has one and I thik that Google, Yahoo
and others are organised in this area.

Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai Sm 319


Message index

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hi Richard,
Is there any way in which the 1500+ messages can be indexed to make it
possible to see whether any particular subject has already been
explored. The French Amel site has one and I thik that Google, Yahoo
and others are organised in this area.

Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai Sm 319


Potentially Hazardous Problem - NMEA Multiplexer

fruehaufp <fruehaufps@...>
 

To all,

I wanted to report a potentially hazardous problem that I
encountered. My autohelm would suddenly turn the boat sharply
without notice. I installed an NMEA multiplexer made by Noland.
The multiplexer has inputs from a GPS, the B&G Hydra 2 and the
autohelm ST7000. The multiplexer has a USB output that connects to
my laptop computer. I also connected the multiplexer output to my
autohelm so I could steer the boat using apparent wind. I
believe that this combination of connections caused the autohelm to
turn unexpectedly. I disconnected the output from the multiplexer
to the autohelm and have not had the problem for about two weeks.
This problem may be unique to my combination of instruments.

We started our extended cruise on May 15th from Wilmington, DE. We
sailed up the Hudson river and took the rig down and went through
the Erie Canal to Lake Ontario. We are headed for Cape Vincent in
the thousand island area today.

Best regards,

Paul Fruehauf - Faraway Eyes - SM 215


Turning off emails of posted messages

Zanareva
 

Yves,

Yes, you can accomplish this, here's how. On the main Amel Yacht
Owners Group webpage, click on the link "Edit Membership". Scroll
down to "Message Delivery". Now check the button "No email - I'll
read messages on the web site." You're all set. You will not be sent
any emails of the messages that are posted on this site, but you can
access all of them when you have internet access by going to this
site and clicking on the MESSAGES link on the left hand side of the
main page.

Best regards
Richard
SM #5 "Spice"


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "mcymabm@v..."
<mcymabm@v...> wrote:
Amelyachtowners@...



Since we will be at see or in remote countries for a while, we
will not be able to read our ashore e.mail box for several weeks.
The numerous interesting messages we receive from the forum will
block it.
Would it be possible that, for this period of time, messages are
not forwarded to my mail box, but kept on the forum where I will
look at them when in a "civilized" country?

Thank you

Yves MARTIN d'AIGUEPERSE

"Blue Marine"
SMU 311





mcymabm@v...
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Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr




(No subject)

mcymabm@voila.fr <mcymabm@...>
 

Amelyachtowners@...



Since we will be at see or in remote countries for a while, we will not be able to read our ashore e.mail box for several weeks. The numerous interesting messages we receive from the forum will block it.
Would it be possible that, for this period of time, messages are not forwarded to my mail box, but kept on the forum where I will look at them when in a “civilized” country?

Thank you

Yves MARTIN d'AIGUEPERSE

“Blue Marine”
SMU 311





mcymabm@...
------------------------------------------

Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster prop replacement

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Hello to all,

I do not believe that you can remove easily the pin with scuba tanks. I had
a similar problem in Greece and the pin was badly bend and it was impossible
to be removed without taking out the bow with the Amel kit which I recommend
to all Amel sailors. It is not easy to be used but it is a safety device in
case you are in trouble. You need about 3 hour work to remove and reinstall
the bow but it works.

By the way I heard that the new Amel boat has double props in a tunnel that
is lowered in the water with a similar systems like the SM so this weak
point has got much better.

Regards

Dimitris
SM Alma Libre
www.almalibre.gr

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From: John and Anne on Bali Hai [mailto:hollamby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster prop replacement


Hello Bob,
It is a doddle. I assume you have a spare prop which comes with the
boss which fits onto the drive shaft. Look at the boss and you will
see that has a hole through which there is a stainless pin which will
take the drive from the shaft. Your old prop has gone missing and so
on the drive shaft there is the old boss and pin or perhaps the old
pin has dropped out and the boss has also vanished.
You do not need to haul out or have the special kit if you can get a
scuba diver to remove the old boss and pin and fit the the new boss
and pin and then fit the prop and screw in the nylon screws. (If you
are unlucky the diver may need to use a similar size pin to drive out
the old one). At a pinch it could be done with a snorkel, I suspect.
Bingo! all is well. Just make sure that you always have a couple of
spare props for the next time. When you pay for them you will become
more careful about stray lines etc..
You do not say your hull no, Mine is 319 and I lost three in the first
couple of years but I have got better!

All the best, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319




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Bowthruster prop replacement

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hello Bob,
It is a doddle. I assume you have a spare prop which comes with the
boss which fits onto the drive shaft. Look at the boss and you will
see that has a hole through which there is a stainless pin which will
take the drive from the shaft. Your old prop has gone missing and so
on the drive shaft there is the old boss and pin or perhaps the old
pin has dropped out and the boss has also vanished.
You do not need to haul out or have the special kit if you can get a
scuba diver to remove the old boss and pin and fit the the new boss
and pin and then fit the prop and screw in the nylon screws. (If you
are unlucky the diver may need to use a similar size pin to drive out
the old one). At a pinch it could be done with a snorkel, I suspect.
Bingo! all is well. Just make sure that you always have a couple of
spare props for the next time. When you pay for them you will become
more careful about stray lines etc..
You do not say your hull no, Mine is 319 and I lost three in the first
couple of years but I have got better!

All the best, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319


Bow Thruster Prop Replacement

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

I've lost my bow thruster prop. Does anyone have experience in
removing the bow thruster foot or replacing the prop without taking
the boat out of the water? I see that amel sells a kit for doing
this. Is it worth getting (vs paying for a haul). I read a comment
somewhere that it was hard to do. I'm trying to decide if I should
haul it (I just put it in) or wait for the special device from Amel.

Also, can someone give me detailed instructions on replacing the
prop? Seems like removing the screws, if they have sheared off, could
be a problem.

Thanks.

Bob


Re: SULAJON SM #347 ENGINE WON'T RESTART WHEN HOT

r.zurkirchen
 

Hi, I had reported on this forum,that last year, several times, my
yanmar did not start. i have installed a " bridge" between the +
and -on the starter, so i could easy bridg the contact. Neverless,
amel has changed the solonoid on the negativ, ( the one you
described), but only a few weeks later the problem accuerd again.
Now, Amel has changed as well the other solonoid ( little black
beside the other, above mentionned). Now the problem is over. It
seems,that the loss on curency is sometimes to much ( maybe when
humide ). The Yanmar- Technician in Hyeres knows the problem, and it
seems, that Yanmar has allready given a Worknotice in this respect.
Get the circuit checked, if the solonoid keeps the 12V or it drops
immediatly after turning the key. In case of loss, you have the same
problem as I had.

Rudy
SAMANTHA


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jfolino901"
<jfolino901@y...> wrote:
I HAVE REPORTED IN THIS FORUM A RECURRING PROBLEM WITH MY YANMAR.
IF
I
HAVE MOTORED FOR A WHILE AT SPEED, SHUT THE ENGINE OFF AND
IMMEDIATELY
TRY TO RESTART, IT IS LIKE THE BATERRY IS TOTALLY DEAD!
THAT IS THE STARTER MOTOR DOESN'T ENGAGE, IN FACT THERE ISN'T ANY
SOLENOID CLICK WHATSOEVER. AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THE ENGINE
WILL
RESTART AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED.
THIS FIRST HAPPENED WHILE I WAS IN GUADELOUPE AND LAURENT CHANGED
THE
SOLENOID TO ONE THAT HAS AN OVERRIDE BUTTON ON IT. NOW I MUST HAVE
2
PEOPLE ABOARD. ONE TO PRESS THIS BUTTON, THE OTHER TO TURN THE
START
KEY.
HAS ANYONE HAD THIS PROBLEM AND GOT TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM?
MIGHT IT BE DUE TO A SAFETY FEATURE THAT WON'T LET THE ENGINE
RESTART
IF IT AS TO HOT?
MY YANMAR SERIAL # IS E11660, MODEL # IS 4JH3-TE

SM #347 SULAJON
JOHN FOLINO


Shroud covers

jjwiggin02 <no_reply@...>
 

Has anyone replaced the shroud covers, 1/2 in. ID on the main shrouds
in the US? Where did you get them.

Thanks,

Jim Wiggin ANTARES SM 2000


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Grounding

tom mcguffy <tmcguffy@...>
 

It happened before I owned the boat but most of the instruments were fried and those that sirvived needed repair.
Tom, Tempest Mango #44

From: silkair@...
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Grounding
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:14:16 EDT

Tom
What happened when you were struck? Were you damaged, lose your
electronics?
SV Eshamy Mango #15




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Grounding

tom mcguffy <tmcguffy@...>
 

It is my understanding that the copper terminals are the RF ground and connect the copper mesh in the hull and the two dyna plates on the skeg. My HF radio worked very well grounded to these terminals. There is no lighting protection as far as I know. My mango was hit twice.
Tom McGuffy

From: "rogerhbanks" <roger.banks@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Grounding
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:47:59 -0000

For my 1982 Mango I'm trying to establish a clear set of groundings for AC, DC, RF and
lightening, following an excellent primer on the subject at SailMail. Can anyone please
advise what is the copper terminal which is located between the transom and the deeper
aft storage space in the aft cabin, or just to starboard of the lazarette? Nothing is
connected to it in my boat and it disappears into the fibreglass of the hull. I'm wondering
if might be the access to an RF ground laid into the original fibreglass layers. Also, I can't
see a lightening ground system. Can anyone help? Regards


Grounding

rogerhbanks <roger.banks@...>
 

For my 1982 Mango I'm trying to establish a clear set of groundings for AC, DC, RF and
lightening, following an excellent primer on the subject at SailMail. Can anyone please
advise what is the copper terminal which is located between the transom and the deeper
aft storage space in the aft cabin, or just to starboard of the lazarette? Nothing is
connected to it in my boat and it disappears into the fibreglass of the hull. I'm wondering
if might be the access to an RF ground laid into the original fibreglass layers. Also, I can't
see a lightening ground system. Can anyone help? Regards