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Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

ESTELLER
 

Hi Bill

Thanks for info. I found the french dealer and I will buy a pair of this impellers, but before I need go to the boat to see exactly what is the model to order the good ones.

In the my actual 54 the motor is a VOLVO and there is not any problem with impeller

Habitually I change the impellers of both generator and motor at about 200/250 hours, but once this  of the generator broke and I change it at sea, wih 45 °C in motor compartiment....

I hope that with this GLOBE impeller the situatiion will be better

Best regards

José ORION 54

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Re: [Amel] Fuel Conditioning

karkauai
 

I just spoke to the AXI engineer about the AlgaeX200 Magnetic Fuel Conditioner.  He said that just putting this unit in line would do little to condition the fuel on boats like ours which don't burn a lot of fuel and recirculate a lot of fuel back to the tank.  All it does is break down the fuel conglomerates that accumulate in the tank.  He says these conglomerates can create sulfuric acid.  For it to keep the fuel in the tank clean you need to filter water and other particulates out with the Racor, and use a biocide and stabilizer.  He recommended a second 12v-50+ gal/hr fuel pump that would take fuel from the bottom of the tank and circulate it through the "magnetic conditioner" and Racor on a regular basis to remove the conglomerates whenever running the engine or generator, and for a few hours every month when sitting at the dock.
I've not read the Practical Sailor article about this product, but apparantly they didn't give the product a very good review.  He says that is because they tested it for removal of bacteria and algae, which is not what it is meant to do.
 
I'm skeptical.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA 

From: Herbert Lackner
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 9:40 AM
Subject: AW: [Amel] Fuel Conditioning
 
Hi hanspeter,
 
not with this product but we use „grotamar 82“
 
fair winds
herbert, SN #120 Kali Mera, Sukosan
 
 
Von: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Im Auftrag von hanspeter.baettig@...
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Dezember 2013 14:52
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: [Amel] Fuel Conditioning
 
 
Hi to all
has somebody already installed and have some experiences with this product
ALGAE-X Model 200
prevent from almost every bacteries in the diesel 
 
you can find the specs on this web side under
product/fuel conditioner
 
 
fire winds
Hanspeter
SM16, Tamango 2
Krusadasi, Turkey
 


Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jose,

If you follow this link, you can enter engine brand and model and it will give you the Globe Impeller Number that you need.

I did the above  and just bought 2 for the Yanmar and 2 for the Onan on eBay for $29.99 delivered in the US.

Bill
BeBe


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:00 AM, <jose.esteller@...> wrote:
 

Hi Joel


Could you give the references of GLOBE impeller you use on your ONAN 11 KWa?


Best regards


José

 



Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

ESTELLER
 

Hi Joel


Could you give the references of GLOBE impeller you use on your ONAN 11 KWa?


Best regards


José

 


Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

amelforme
 

I have used and been totally satisfied with the Globe impellers for several years. They can run dry without damage and resist the pollution, from two stroke motor oil to the sludge found in industrial harbors, quite well. Nice company who enjoy new challenges. No axe to grind other than they do all that they claim they will do. gcsmarine.com 

Joel F. Potter 
AMEL guy for North America
954 812 2485
iPhone 

On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:58 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

Kaj,

Why the Onan impeller does not last as long as the Volvo or Yanmar is because I believe the water pump Onan uses is too small. I think the heat exchanger is also too small. I believe that if Onan changed these two things they would have the best marine generator available in the 7 to 15kw range.

I am going to try these impellers and will let you know the outcome:

If anyone has tried the Globe Run-Dry Impeller, please give some input.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM, kaj@... <kaj@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill

 

Thanks for the advice. I will try to follow them.
I have so far cleaned the Onan very carefully and I have also had Onan technican to do it, without any result.

So my question is still, WHY does the Onan impeller blades broke, when Volvo impeller never has been broken???
Is it only that the Volvo impeller is better???

 

Regards

 

Kaj

On 5 dec 2013 12:43 "Bill & Judy Rouse" wrote:

 

Hi,

The Onan generator will use impellers about every 200 hours. Do not try to get 250. 

The issue about the water is not entirely true. take a look at the water level in the sea chest and compare that to the height of the water pump on the Onan. you will see that the Onan Water pump is about 2" or 5cm higher than the water level. That means that when the Onan is off, the lowest the water will go is 5cm down the water feed hose. The impeller, if completely dry will be wet in less than 1/10th of a second.

If you do not believe this, disconnect the water feed hose to the water pump and lower the end 5cm...water will start running out of the end.

There are several things you should look for that may help you:
  1. Pieces of blades in the heat exchanger. The easiest way to do this is:
    1. Turn off the sea cock at the sea chest
    2. Remove both hoses to/from the water pump.
    3. Using a wet vacuum suck out all of the water and debris from each hose, then from each hose connection on the pump...let is suck for 1-2 minutes to be sure you get everything
    4. Next remove the end caps on the Onan heat exchanger and suck all of the water and debris out of it...BUT...before you do this order 2 each end caps for the Onan heat exchanger...should be part # 130-5176(kit). These end caps and gaskets (kit) are delicate and before you remove them you need to have this part in case you need to replace them. Use silicone grease on the end cap gaskets when replacing.
    5. This is a good time to check the zinc on the heat exchanger and replace if necessary
    6. Put everything back together.
    7. Don't forget to turn ON the sea cock at the sea chest.
    8. Look inside the wet vacuum for what you have removed.
    9. If you did this correctly you will not have more than a few drops of salt water escape your wet vacuum.
  2. Be sure that the feed line to the Onan from the sea cock is not plugged with barnacles or debris
  3. When you replace the impeller, use glycerin as a lubricant for the impeller.
  4. Be aware of the operating temperature of the Onan (buy a laser thermometer)
  5. Be aware of the amount of water going out through the exhaust
Hope this helps,

Bill 
BeBe, SM2k #387



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...> wrote:
 

Perhaps you could eliminate the problem by installing a water trap?


You could extend the supply hose and have an inverted U just ahead of the water pump; then no need for an additional water pump upstream.

Good luck.

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Dec 2013, at 16:04, <kaj.liljebladh@...> <kaj.liljebladh@...> wrote:

 

I have an Amel 54 #128.
I have Always had problem with the impeller. I chenge it when I change oil every 200 hours and most of the blades are broken at that Point.
I Heard from one amel owner that Amel had recommened him to put in a waterpump Before the Onan, and it should start att the same time as you start the Onan. This is to help the Onan waterpump.
I had one guy changing oil and he tolled me that the water is running back so the impeller is dry when the engine start. That means it starting dry and of cource if that happende it is very natural that the impeller blades broke. But I can not belive that Amel has done such an installation.
Is it anyone else which have problem with the impleller to Onan?



Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jgermain@...





Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 



Stephanie DiBelardino

On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:13 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

I gave you the wrong link for the Globe Run-Dry Impeller...the correct one is http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|2234245|2234249&id=1322483

Bill


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Kaj,

Why the Onan impeller does not last as long as the Volvo or Yanmar is because I believe the water pump Onan uses is too small. I think the heat exchanger is also too small. I believe that if Onan changed these two things they would have the best marine generator available in the 7 to 15kw range.

I am going to try these impellers and will let you know the outcome:

If anyone has tried the Globe Run-Dry Impeller, please give some input.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM, kaj@... <kaj@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill

 

Thanks for the advice. I will try to follow them.
I have so far cleaned the Onan very carefully and I have also had Onan technican to do it, without any result.

So my question is still, WHY does the Onan impeller blades broke, when Volvo impeller never has been broken???
Is it only that the Volvo impeller is better???

 

Regards

 

Kaj

On 5 dec 2013 12:43 "Bill & Judy Rouse" wrote:

 

Hi,

The Onan generator will use impellers about every 200 hours. Do not try to get 250. 

The issue about the water is not entirely true. take a look at the water level in the sea chest and compare that to the height of the water pump on the Onan. you will see that the Onan Water pump is about 2" or 5cm higher than the water level. That means that when the Onan is off, the lowest the water will go is 5cm down the water feed hose. The impeller, if completely dry will be wet in less than 1/10th of a second.

If you do not believe this, disconnect the water feed hose to the water pump and lower the end 5cm...water will start running out of the end.

There are several things you should look for that may help you:
  1. Pieces of blades in the heat exchanger. The easiest way to do this is:
    1. Turn off the sea cock at the sea chest
    2. Remove both hoses to/from the water pump.
    3. Using a wet vacuum suck out all of the water and debris from each hose, then from each hose connection on the pump...let is suck for 1-2 minutes to be sure you get everything
    4. Next remove the end caps on the Onan heat exchanger and suck all of the water and debris out of it...BUT...before you do this order 2 each end caps for the Onan heat exchanger...should be part # 130-5176(kit). These end caps and gaskets (kit) are delicate and before you remove them you need to have this part in case you need to replace them. Use silicone grease on the end cap gaskets when replacing.
    5. This is a good time to check the zinc on the heat exchanger and replace if necessary
    6. Put everything back together.
    7. Don't forget to turn ON the sea cock at the sea chest.
    8. Look inside the wet vacuum for what you have removed.
    9. If you did this correctly you will not have more than a few drops of salt water escape your wet vacuum.
  2. Be sure that the feed line to the Onan from the sea cock is not plugged with barnacles or debris
  3. When you replace the impeller, use glycerin as a lubricant for the impeller.
  4. Be aware of the operating temperature of the Onan (buy a laser thermometer)
  5. Be aware of the amount of water going out through the exhaust
Hope this helps,

Bill 
BeBe, SM2k #387



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...> wrote:
 

Perhaps you could eliminate the problem by installing a water trap?


You could extend the supply hose and have an inverted U just ahead of the water pump; then no need for an additional water pump upstream.

Good luck.

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Dec 2013, at 16:04, <kaj.liljebladh@...> <kaj.liljebladh@...> wrote:

 

I have an Amel 54 #128.
I have Always had problem with the impeller. I chenge it when I change oil every 200 hours and most of the blades are broken at that Point.
I Heard from one amel owner that Amel had recommened him to put in a waterpump Before the Onan, and it should start att the same time as you start the Onan. This is to help the Onan waterpump.
I had one guy changing oil and he tolled me that the water is running back so the impeller is dry when the engine start. That means it starting dry and of cource if that happende it is very natural that the impeller blades broke. But I can not belive that Amel has done such an installation.
Is it anyone else which have problem with the impleller to Onan?



Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jgermain@...






Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I gave you the wrong link for the Globe Run-Dry Impeller...the correct one is http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|2234245|2234249&id=1322483

Bill


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Kaj,

Why the Onan impeller does not last as long as the Volvo or Yanmar is because I believe the water pump Onan uses is too small. I think the heat exchanger is also too small. I believe that if Onan changed these two things they would have the best marine generator available in the 7 to 15kw range.

I am going to try these impellers and will let you know the outcome:

If anyone has tried the Globe Run-Dry Impeller, please give some input.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM, kaj@... <kaj@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill

 

Thanks for the advice. I will try to follow them.
I have so far cleaned the Onan very carefully and I have also had Onan technican to do it, without any result.

So my question is still, WHY does the Onan impeller blades broke, when Volvo impeller never has been broken???
Is it only that the Volvo impeller is better???

 

Regards

 

Kaj

On 5 dec 2013 12:43 "Bill & Judy Rouse" wrote:

 

Hi,

The Onan generator will use impellers about every 200 hours. Do not try to get 250. 

The issue about the water is not entirely true. take a look at the water level in the sea chest and compare that to the height of the water pump on the Onan. you will see that the Onan Water pump is about 2" or 5cm higher than the water level. That means that when the Onan is off, the lowest the water will go is 5cm down the water feed hose. The impeller, if completely dry will be wet in less than 1/10th of a second.

If you do not believe this, disconnect the water feed hose to the water pump and lower the end 5cm...water will start running out of the end.

There are several things you should look for that may help you:
  1. Pieces of blades in the heat exchanger. The easiest way to do this is:
    1. Turn off the sea cock at the sea chest
    2. Remove both hoses to/from the water pump.
    3. Using a wet vacuum suck out all of the water and debris from each hose, then from each hose connection on the pump...let is suck for 1-2 minutes to be sure you get everything
    4. Next remove the end caps on the Onan heat exchanger and suck all of the water and debris out of it...BUT...before you do this order 2 each end caps for the Onan heat exchanger...should be part # 130-5176(kit). These end caps and gaskets (kit) are delicate and before you remove them you need to have this part in case you need to replace them. Use silicone grease on the end cap gaskets when replacing.
    5. This is a good time to check the zinc on the heat exchanger and replace if necessary
    6. Put everything back together.
    7. Don't forget to turn ON the sea cock at the sea chest.
    8. Look inside the wet vacuum for what you have removed.
    9. If you did this correctly you will not have more than a few drops of salt water escape your wet vacuum.
  2. Be sure that the feed line to the Onan from the sea cock is not plugged with barnacles or debris
  3. When you replace the impeller, use glycerin as a lubricant for the impeller.
  4. Be aware of the operating temperature of the Onan (buy a laser thermometer)
  5. Be aware of the amount of water going out through the exhaust
Hope this helps,

Bill 
BeBe, SM2k #387



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...> wrote:
 

Perhaps you could eliminate the problem by installing a water trap?


You could extend the supply hose and have an inverted U just ahead of the water pump; then no need for an additional water pump upstream.

Good luck.

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Dec 2013, at 16:04, <kaj.liljebladh@...> <kaj.liljebladh@...> wrote:

 

I have an Amel 54 #128.
I have Always had problem with the impeller. I chenge it when I change oil every 200 hours and most of the blades are broken at that Point.
I Heard from one amel owner that Amel had recommened him to put in a waterpump Before the Onan, and it should start att the same time as you start the Onan. This is to help the Onan waterpump.
I had one guy changing oil and he tolled me that the water is running back so the impeller is dry when the engine start. That means it starting dry and of cource if that happende it is very natural that the impeller blades broke. But I can not belive that Amel has done such an installation.
Is it anyone else which have problem with the impleller to Onan?



Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jgermain@...






Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kaj,

Why the Onan impeller does not last as long as the Volvo or Yanmar is because I believe the water pump Onan uses is too small. I think the heat exchanger is also too small. I believe that if Onan changed these two things they would have the best marine generator available in the 7 to 15kw range.

I am going to try these impellers and will let you know the outcome:

If anyone has tried the Globe Run-Dry Impeller, please give some input.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM, kaj@... <kaj@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill

 

Thanks for the advice. I will try to follow them.
I have so far cleaned the Onan very carefully and I have also had Onan technican to do it, without any result.

So my question is still, WHY does the Onan impeller blades broke, when Volvo impeller never has been broken???
Is it only that the Volvo impeller is better???

 

Regards

 

Kaj

On 5 dec 2013 12:43 "Bill & Judy Rouse" wrote:

 

Hi,

The Onan generator will use impellers about every 200 hours. Do not try to get 250. 

The issue about the water is not entirely true. take a look at the water level in the sea chest and compare that to the height of the water pump on the Onan. you will see that the Onan Water pump is about 2" or 5cm higher than the water level. That means that when the Onan is off, the lowest the water will go is 5cm down the water feed hose. The impeller, if completely dry will be wet in less than 1/10th of a second.

If you do not believe this, disconnect the water feed hose to the water pump and lower the end 5cm...water will start running out of the end.

There are several things you should look for that may help you:
  1. Pieces of blades in the heat exchanger. The easiest way to do this is:
    1. Turn off the sea cock at the sea chest
    2. Remove both hoses to/from the water pump.
    3. Using a wet vacuum suck out all of the water and debris from each hose, then from each hose connection on the pump...let is suck for 1-2 minutes to be sure you get everything
    4. Next remove the end caps on the Onan heat exchanger and suck all of the water and debris out of it...BUT...before you do this order 2 each end caps for the Onan heat exchanger...should be part # 130-5176(kit). These end caps and gaskets (kit) are delicate and before you remove them you need to have this part in case you need to replace them. Use silicone grease on the end cap gaskets when replacing.
    5. This is a good time to check the zinc on the heat exchanger and replace if necessary
    6. Put everything back together.
    7. Don't forget to turn ON the sea cock at the sea chest.
    8. Look inside the wet vacuum for what you have removed.
    9. If you did this correctly you will not have more than a few drops of salt water escape your wet vacuum.
  2. Be sure that the feed line to the Onan from the sea cock is not plugged with barnacles or debris
  3. When you replace the impeller, use glycerin as a lubricant for the impeller.
  4. Be aware of the operating temperature of the Onan (buy a laser thermometer)
  5. Be aware of the amount of water going out through the exhaust
Hope this helps,

Bill 
BeBe, SM2k #387



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...> wrote:
 

Perhaps you could eliminate the problem by installing a water trap?


You could extend the supply hose and have an inverted U just ahead of the water pump; then no need for an additional water pump upstream.

Good luck.

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Dec 2013, at 16:04, <kaj.liljebladh@...> <kaj.liljebladh@...> wrote:

 

I have an Amel 54 #128.
I have Always had problem with the impeller. I chenge it when I change oil every 200 hours and most of the blades are broken at that Point.
I Heard from one amel owner that Amel had recommened him to put in a waterpump Before the Onan, and it should start att the same time as you start the Onan. This is to help the Onan waterpump.
I had one guy changing oil and he tolled me that the water is running back so the impeller is dry when the engine start. That means it starting dry and of cource if that happende it is very natural that the impeller blades broke. But I can not belive that Amel has done such an installation.
Is it anyone else which have problem with the impleller to Onan?



Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jgermain@...





Re: [Amel] RE: Onan Generator 11kWa

Alan Leslie
 

I'd like to know the answer to that too.

Yanmar engines in previous boats, I changed the impeller every 2 years as recommended, but it always looked good when it came out. These ONAN impellers are completely destroyed...maybe its the pump housing ??

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

Alan Leslie
 

I too have sailed single handed and docked many times alone now with our Super Maramu (53ft)

She is the easiest boat to sail solo that I have ever experienced.

I wouldn't concern yourself about that.

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

karkauai
 

Mike and Chris,
Soooo sorry to hear about Mike's condition.  Please know that your extended Amel family is thinking of you and wishes you well during these tough times.
Sincerely,
Kent
SM243 Kristy



From: Chris Smither
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

 
  Details for Akwaaba, Santorin Sloop 1990

http://phuket.boatshed.com/amel_santorin-boat-164612.html

Thanks

Mike and Chris




On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:04 PM, Chris Smither wrote:
Hi 
We have a santorin sloop for sale with new engine (1990) she is based in phuket,Thailand . We are selling her as Mike has terminal cancer.
We are her second owners
Hope this helps
Chris and Mike Smither santorin sloop Akwaaba

On 9 Dec 2013, at 12:10, <pawleyd@...> wrote:

 
Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.





1993 Santorin for sale

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Given that we have bought a 53 SM, I am literally forcing my husband to sell the 46 Santorin, #88. He has become quite attached to this boat, but I love the spaciousness of the SM!

So, "Bianca" is docked in our back yard on Grand Bahama Island, along the Grand Lucaya Canal -- fortunately, we have 230' of deep water dockage, so their is plenty of room for both Amels! If you want to see Bianc! make your way to Freeport, and we will pick you up either at the airport or at the port.

Here is the link. The price is a Net to buyer price, so brokers must collect their fees from their buyer.
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1993-Amel-Santorin-604016


Fair winds!

Stephanie DiBelardino


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

  Details for Akwaaba, Santorin Sloop 1990

http://phuket.boatshed.com/amel_santorin-boat-164612.html

Thanks

Mike and Chris




On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:04 PM, Chris Smither wrote:
Hi 
We have a santorin sloop for sale with new engine (1990) she is based in phuket,Thailand . We are selling her as Mike has terminal cancer.
We are her second owners
Hope this helps
Chris and Mike Smither santorin sloop Akwaaba

On 9 Dec 2013, at 12:10, <pawleyd@...> wrote:

 
Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.



Re: [Amel] Onan Generator 11kWa

Kaj Liljebladh
 


Re: [Amel] RE: Onan Generator 11kWa

Kaj Liljebladh
 


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

Mark Erdos
 

I have sailed and docked our Super Maramu single handedly with no problems. It is easier to handle than my previous 38’ Cheoy Lee Sloop. I doubt if you could find a much easier boat to solo.

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pawleyd@...
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 7:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

 

 

Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

I have to agree that the Santorin is very easy to sail, even single handed.  We previously had a Nauticat 43 that we installed Bamar equipment to and had her re-rigged to sail single -handed.  Although it was a quantum leap, it does not compare with the Amel concept of a yacht being designed from its inception to be single handed.

Fair winds!
Stephanie DiBelardino
Santorin 88, Bianca, currently lying Grand Bahama Island ( for sale)
SM 353, currently unnamed, lying Florida

On Dec 9, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

 

As recent owners, our Santorin ketch is easier to sail than our previous 37' Jeanneau. I would sail it single handed easily. The ketch is useful in that the individual sails are slightly smaller and the mizzen seems a very useful short handed sail with the genoa. Storage and tankage are excellent as is build quality.

Ian SNOW 96 Ocean Hobo



On 9 Dec 2013, at 12:10, <pawleyd@...> wrote:

 

Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Hi 
We have a santorin sloop for sale with new engine (1990) she is based in phuket,Thailand . We are selling her as Mike has terminal cancer.
We are her second owners
Hope this helps
Chris and Mike Smither santorin sloop Akwaaba

On 9 Dec 2013, at 12:10, <pawleyd@...> wrote:

 

Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.


Re: [Amel] Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

Ian Park
 

As recent owners, our Santorin ketch is easier to sail than our previous 37' Jeanneau. I would sail it single handed easily. The ketch is useful in that the individual sails are slightly smaller and the mizzen seems a very useful short handed sail with the genoa. Storage and tankage are excellent as is build quality.

Ian SNOW 96 Ocean Hobo



On 9 Dec 2013, at 12:10, <pawleyd@...> wrote:

 

Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.


Santorin, Suitable for singlehanding

David Pawley
 

Hi, In regard to 46' Santorini. It has Bow thruster and balooner system, first impressions its a little too big for single handing. But the build quality of Amel is so tempting. With plenty of tankage, what do other owners think and would it make any difference if a sloop version.
Thanks for comments.
Waverider, Amel owner wannabe.