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Re: [Amel] RE: Super Maramu standing rigging replacement

Graham Boyd
 

My SM 140 Sula is in Hong Kong and before a trip to the Philippines last year I decided to replace the standing rigging. Hong Kong has remarkably good yacht repair facilities, but the more research and pricing I did, the more obvious it became to go direct to ACMO in France, the Amel suppliers. I ordered one set of SM rigging with RH turnbuckles by email and that was it. It appeared in Hong Kong 10 days later and fitted perfectly. It really couldn't have been simpler and was significantly cheaperthan getting it custom made. The Yacht Club riggers were astounded as every one here regarding Amel's continued after sales service for a boat that is now almost 18 years old.


Graham
SM 140 SULA
Hong Kong 


---In amelyachtowners@..., <a.diezrv@...> wrote:

One question about the short turnbuckle: why it is necesessary, why I cannot use a standar one?
I think there is enough clearance between the deck and the roller.
Thank you very much and best regards
Antonio Diez


El Miércoles, 5 de febrero, 2014 7:10 P.M., "terencesingh@..." <terencesingh@...> escribió:
 
Lot's of great information here that I will discuss in detail with SeaTek over the next week.
Thank you all.

T&D



Re: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

They are still selling new ENO in New zealand.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

From: "jlm@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

You can have ENO parts directly by ENO
sav@...
price is correct
JL Mertz on CottonBay
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Le 06/02/2014 19:54, Sailorman a écrit :
> *Ian,*
>
> *Since force 10 bought eno- the parts are difficult if not impossible to
> get. If you find someone with parts please let me know.*
>
> *Fair Winds*
>
> *Eric*
>
> *Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite*
>
> **
>
> **
>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:49 PM
> *To:* amelyachtowners@...
> *Subject:* [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker
>
>
> Can anyone please tell me the model name of the ENO 4 burner cooker
> fitted to the SM2000 around 2003? I am trying to order a replacement
> knob. The name maybe on the plaque at the back of the cooker but I don't
> want to remove it unless I really have to. I don't seem to have a manual.
>
> With thanks
>
> Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader -Built 2003 - Location Cyprus
>
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Re: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Anne and Trevor,
as I have posted recently it is possible to get good life from wet cell batteries. I have golf cart type that are approaching five years with a mixture of liveaboard and part time use and still going well. Desulphation is the key as was covered in previous posts and can yeild life span of 10 years plus for wet cell.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
mangonui
New zealand

From: "seafeverofcuan@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 8:53 AM
Subject: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries
 
Hi Anne,
            I have seen Lifeline AGM installed apparently successfully in a Super Maramu but you need to understand how your total charging system works and adjust it all accordingly.
I have had batteries badly abused and downright destroyed by others who were supposed to looking after the boat- it happens everywhere  if you have to leave the boat for extended periods  it is easier to pay for and find deep cycle wet cell. AGM really suffer if they get over charged. Next time I will look for wet cell that I can top up rather than sealed wet cell.
The heat also plays havoc with performance and lifespan. There are endless postings on this site on this subject.
Amel do not recommend anything other than wet cell for the Super Maramu and state eighteen months life cycle for live aboard maximum and up to four years for light use.I have found this to be fairly close.

I made the decision some years ago to accept the cost of new batteries every couple of years or so and live with it.

Fair Winds.

Trevor Lusty
Seafever of cuan
SM425 Ireland


Re: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries and fresh water switch

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

 

 

 

I had the same problem with my 30 amp dolphin charger. My boat is currently in St Maarten. I leave the

Pedestal breaker off and once a week I have someone turn on the pedestal for 24 hours.

In a month, it has used 1 kW of electric.

I also added a switch at the fresh water pump so the same person can turn on the fresh water and run it through the membranes weekly then turn it off. With this switch, I can keep the fresh water turned on without anyone entering the boat.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan@...
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries

 

 

Thanks Eric.I have been able to do that on some brands. The last lot were Vetus which were expensive and really good performance. They were destroyed in under a year by the 30amp charger going rogue and interestingly I had a real good go at trying to rehydrate them as I had nothing to lose, but on this occasion they were heat welded and I couldn't get into them without destroying them.

Having been through this several times I am now convinced that when I am off the boat for a number of months the best all round solution is to disconnect them all totally. Which is the only reason I could think of to justify the price for AGM as they degrade so slowly. I think if you are living on board and are on hand to care for them properly then you would have a better chance of getting value from AGM.

 

Trevor

 


Re: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Thanks Eric.I have been able to do that on some brands. The last lot were Vetus which were expensive and really good performance. They were destroyed in under a year by the 30amp charger going rogue and interestingly I had a real good go at trying to rehydrate them as I had nothing to lose, but on this occasion they were heat welded and I couldn't get into them without destroying them.

Having been through this several times I am now convinced that when I am off the boat for a number of months the best all round solution is to disconnect them all totally. Which is the only reason I could think of to justify the price for AGM as they degrade so slowly. I think if you are living on board and are on hand to care for them properly then you would have a better chance of getting value from AGM.


Trevor



Re: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Thanks a lot
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

You can have ENO parts directly by ENO
sav@...
price is correct
JL Mertz on CottonBay
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Le 06/02/2014 19:54, Sailorman a écrit :
*Ian,*

*Since force 10 bought eno- the parts are difficult if not impossible to
get. If you find someone with parts please let me know.*

*Fair Winds*

*Eric*

*Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite*

**

**

------------------------------------------------------------------------

*From:*amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] *On Behalf Of *Ian Shepherd
*Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:49 PM
*To:* amelyachtowners@...
*Subject:* [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker


Can anyone please tell me the model name of the ENO 4 burner cooker
fitted to the SM2000 around 2003? I am trying to order a replacement
knob. The name maybe on the plaque at the back of the cooker but I don't
want to remove it unless I really have to. I don't seem to have a manual.

With thanks

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader -Built 2003 - Location Cyprus


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Re: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

You can have ENO parts directly by ENO
sav@...
price is correct
JL Mertz on CottonBay
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Le 06/02/2014 19:54, Sailorman a crit :

*Ian,*

*Since force 10 bought eno- the parts are difficult if not impossible to
get. If you find someone with parts please let me know.*

*Fair Winds*

*Eric*

*Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite*

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[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] *On Behalf Of *Ian Shepherd
*Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:49 PM
*To:* amelyachtowners@...
*Subject:* [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker


Can anyone please tell me the model name of the ENO 4 burner cooker
fitted to the SM2000 around 2003? I am trying to order a replacement
knob. The name maybe on the plaque at the back of the cooker but I don't
want to remove it unless I really have to. I don't seem to have a manual.

With thanks

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader -Built 2003 - Location Cyprus


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Re: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Trevor,

I have found that sealed maintenance free batteries can actually be opened.

Many times the openings are under labels. I am able to add water to these batteries and also

Use the higher voltage settings on the charger to equalize the batteries.

Of course they must be opened to do this.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan@...
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 3:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] RE: AGM batteries

 

 

Hi Anne,

            I have seen Lifeline AGM installed apparently successfully in a Super Maramu but you need to understand how your total charging system works and adjust it all accordingly.

I have had batteries badly abused and downright destroyed by others who were supposed to looking after the boat- it happens everywhere  if you have to leave the boat for extended periods  it is easier to pay for and find deep cycle wet cell. AGM really suffer if they get over charged. Next time I will look for wet cell that I can top up rather than sealed wet cell.

The heat also plays havoc with performance and lifespan. There are endless postings on this site on this subject.

Amel do not recommend anything other than wet cell for the Super Maramu and state eighteen months life cycle for live aboard maximum and up to four years for light use.I have found this to be fairly close.

 

I made the decision some years ago to accept the cost of new batteries every couple of years or so and live with it.

 

Fair Winds.

 

Trevor Lusty

Seafever of cuan

SM425 Ireland


Re: AGM batteries

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Hi Anne,

            I have seen Lifeline AGM installed apparently successfully in a Super Maramu but you need to understand how your total charging system works and adjust it all accordingly.

I have had batteries badly abused and downright destroyed by others who were supposed to looking after the boat- it happens everywhere  if you have to leave the boat for extended periods  it is easier to pay for and find deep cycle wet cell. AGM really suffer if they get over charged. Next time I will look for wet cell that I can top up rather than sealed wet cell.

The heat also plays havoc with performance and lifespan. There are endless postings on this site on this subject.

Amel do not recommend anything other than wet cell for the Super Maramu and state eighteen months life cycle for live aboard maximum and up to four years for light use.I have found this to be fairly close.


I made the decision some years ago to accept the cost of new batteries every couple of years or so and live with it.


Fair Winds.


Trevor Lusty

Seafever of cuan

SM425 Ireland


Re: [Amel] AGM batteries

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Just my opinion---I believe Amel installed lead acid batteries ( group 31 on my boat) because they are standard truck batteries. They are available worldwide.

If you happen to have a problem with an agm battery in some far off place it would be very difficult to replace. I would stick with the lead acid batteries.

 

In any event , I believe some of the dolphin chargers have a knob that will allow charging AGM batteries.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of gegcarter@...
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 2:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] AGM batteries

 

 

Has anyone installed AGM batteries in the SM? Are they compatible with existing charger? (maintenance free lead acid batteries were used so far) Can anyone recommend a brand? Size matters as we all know, it needs to fit under the bunk!
Any advice welcome.
Anne (on Guma)


AGM batteries

gegcarter@...
 

Has anyone installed AGM batteries in the SM? Are they compatible with existing charger? (maintenance free lead acid batteries were used so far) Can anyone recommend a brand? Size matters as we all know, it needs to fit under the bunk!
Any advice welcome.
Anne (on Guma)


Re: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Ian,

Since force 10 bought eno- the parts are difficult if not impossible to get. If you find someone with parts please let me know.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:49 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Fwd: ENO Cooker

 

 


Can anyone please tell me the model name of the ENO 4 burner cooker
fitted to the SM2000 around 2003? I am trying to order a replacement
knob. The name maybe on the plaque at the back of the cooker but I don't
want to remove it unless I really have to. I don't seem to have a manual.

With thanks

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader -Built 2003 - Location Cyprus


ENO Cooker

Ian Shepherd
 

Can anyone please tell me the model name of the ENO 4 burner cooker fitted to the SM2000 around 2003? I am trying to order a replacement knob. The name maybe on the plaque at the back of the cooker but I don't want to remove it unless I really have to. I don't seem to have a manual.

With thanks

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader -Built 2003 - Location Cyprus


Re: [Amel] RE: Super Maramu standing rigging replacement

ANTONIO DIEZ <a.diezrv@...>
 

One question about the short turnbuckle: why it is necesessary, why I cannot use a standar one?
I think there is enough clearance between the deck and the roller.
Thank you very much and best regards
Antonio Diez


El Miércoles, 5 de febrero, 2014 7:10 P.M., "terencesingh@..." escribió:
 
Lot's of great information here that I will discuss in detail with SeaTek over the next week.
Thank you all.

T&D



Re: [Amel] RE: Lift or uphaul= outhaul?

Charles Macdonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

Garry and Danny,
Thanks a lot. Will get back to my boat and see how I can fix it according to your directions,
Charles


On 04/02/14 07:26, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...> wrote:


 
 
   

Hi Charles:



I find that the bungy cord section of the topping lift rigging deteriorates for a distance of about 18 inches within the boom just behind the gooseneck (both for the main and mizzen booms).  As others have mentioned you can simply shorten this defective area to gain added service life.  Do this when you notice that your topping lift is loose while sailing.  The topping lift should have some tension on it continually (provided by the bungy cord) to prevent it from flailing about while under sail.  I was also concerned about UV deterioration of the rope (line) portion of this part of rigging as it is a critical item to support the booms. I have made a habit of changing-out all the non-metal topping lift rigging every 6 years (in the Caribbean, perhaps it will last longer in less severe climates).  Amel has always been good to provide me with completely new assemblies ready for install, but it is fairly simple to duplicate this bit of rigging on your own if you have access to similar materials.



Sincerely,



Gary Silver

Amel SM 2000  Hull # 335

s/v Liahona

   



Re: [Amel] Re: Cruising Insurance

Charles Macdonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

Thanks Roque and all for suggesting insurance companies that may insure us outside the beaten track (the usual perimeter). Our Maramu is in France (registered in Saint Malo but moored in Martigues) and maybe de Lassée could be approached. We intend to sail as far North as Groenland and later on cruise towards South America.
Charles (SM Inuit)


On 05/02/14 21:52, "Roque" <ediroque@...> wrote:

 
 
 
   

Maybe you should get a quote from: Mr. 
Geoffroy de LASSÉE - ASSURANCES MARITIMES de LASSÉE

 La Rochelle / Antibes / St Barthélémy
www.assurances-delassee.com <http://www.assurances-delassee.com/>
Tel : +33 5 46 45 46 45


They know Amel boats quite well and they usually have fair prices. Someone in this Forum referred him  some 3 year ago.


I recently had a minor accident with  the electric gangway, a bump against the dock. It turned out to be a 2000 euros repair! Almost what I had paid for insurance (3.182 Euros). Even without  pictures of the accident they reimbursed me in full. Quick and easy.  I am also very happy with Mr. Geoffroy de Lassée attention along these years. 


Roque
S/Y Atica- Amel 54
Alicante- Spain

   



Re: Cruising Insurance

yahoogroups@...
 

We have "Round the World" with DeLasse. They will insure US flagged vessels only if it has a home port that is not one of the 50 US states. Ours is St Thomas USVI. Our boat is insured virtually anywhere except US waters. Virgin Islands is not defined as US waters to them. The policy is great. Bill BeBe 387


Re: Cruising Insurance

islandbwoy4434
 

Thanks Trevor and Roque, I will make enquiries with both and let you know what I find.


Regards,


Terry & Dena


Re: [Amel] Cruising Insurance

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

T&D
There is difference between the different Pantaenius offices. Try to get in contact with Pantaenius in Sweden, they usually is cheaper. Tell them that I recommended you to contact them.

Pantaenius works with different sailing areas and you don't have to pay for a whole year if you are in that area just a couple of months. The most expensive area is the Pacific, due to difficulty to ship spare and new parts.

Good Luck
Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila
Still at Grenada.....

Skickat från min iPad

5 feb 2014 kl. 14:26 skrev terencesingh@...:

 

I have made several enquiries with respect to off shore cruising Insurance associated with the Blue Planet Odyssey starting later this year in our hemisphere. http://www.blueplanetodyssey.com/  You can see the route and timing here.

Several companies (US based) have refused to provide  coverage outside of the normal West Coast American waters.
We have just received a quote from Pantaenius for both local and extended off shore (Pacific crossing) cruising.
The local prices are quite in line with what we pay today, offshore is outright expensive. $9000.00US p.a. South of the 10 degrees N and North of 47 degrees South with a large exclusion zone right across Asia.
Insurance is for full non depreciated value of the boat including contents. $6400.00 deductible on the hull.
My questions.
1. Is there a better way to insure our vessel for a circumnavigation?
2. Some advice coming in suggests we go without insurance at all. Just perhaps liability that is a requirement of most  marinas.

I know there are quite a number of members out there doing what we are about to and any insight would be gratefully appreciated.

T&D
SV Libby
#196
San Diego


Re: [Amel] Re: Cruising Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

I second what Joel said. We are BVI flagged and in US waters. Geoffroy de Lassée  made it very differcult until we went elsewhere. We settled and are happy with Pantaenius.
 
Mark
 
SM2K #275
 


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Joel <jfpottercys@...> wrote:
 

Last time I heard, Mr. de Lassee wouldn't/couldn't insure US flagged vessels, especially if they were in US waters. Has this changed as the folks that use him love him?

Joel F. Potter
iPhone 

On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:

 

Maybe you should get a quote from: Mr. Geoffroy de LASSÉE - ASSURANCES MARITIMES de LASSÉE

 La Rochelle / Antibes / St Barthélémy

www.assurances-delassee.com

Tel : +33 5 46 45 46 45


They know Amel boats quite well and they usually have fair prices. Someone in this Forum referred him  some 3 year ago.


I recently had a minor accident with  the electric gangway, a bump against the dock. It turned out to be a 2000 euros repair! Almost what I had paid for insurance (3.182 Euros). Even without  pictures of the accident they reimbursed me in full. Quick and easy.  I am also very happy with Mr. Geoffroy de Lassée attention along these years. 


Roque

S/Y Atica- Amel 54

Alicante- Spain