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Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Try this site call Scott Stusek +1 (914) 217-7991 he'll take good care. Regards Richard Piller Cell 603 767 5330
On Feb 9, 2014, at 15:31, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Greek Cruising Tax - Cancelled?
Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
Hi Ian At the Amel Yachtowners group on Facebook, and at Cruising Assosiation (CA) you have more info and fact. But as I understand it, the tax is just postponed until they have the new software ready and have educated the staff. /Annsofie S/Y Lady Annila. SM #232 Skickat från min iPad
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Greek Cruising Tax - Cancelled?
Ian Shepherd
A friend of mine who lives in Leros and who owns two yachts there has said that he talked about the proposed Greek cruising tax with his local Port Police. He was told that the plan to introduce the tax this year had been shelved. Good news! I am not certain if the tax has been dropped for all flags but I will endeavour to find out next time I speak with him.
Please don't shoot the messenger if they gave him misinformation. I am only passing on what he relayed througfh friends to me. Ian Shepherd SM2000 414 Crusader Cyprus
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Re: Watermaker air bubbles
I found it !!
Its the sampling tap sucking in air...rubber bung is a temporary fix...need a new tap clearly !!
Cheers Alan SV Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel] Watermaker air bubbles
I had a similar problem caused by failed hose clamps on the intake hose for the air conditioner pump. The clamps had failed due to rusting and eventually gave way while running the AC at the dock. Fortunately I was aboard and noticed the bilge pump running. There was a LOT of water coming thru the intake hose which had come off the AC pump! After replacing the hose clamps I no longer had air in the watermaker. I've since replaced all the hose clamps on the boat with high quality Stainless ones. Start at the Watermaker and work your way back to the manifold at the sea chest. Anything attached to the manifold can be the source...engine raw water, genset raw water, AC pump, or Watermaker intake hoses. I don't leave the AC running when I leave the boat any more. Kent SM243 Kristy
On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:18 PM, <divanz620@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
No, Pozzallo in another place, Marina Ragusa in on the shoreside of the city of Ragusa, South of Sicily.
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Attilio & Maria Siviero Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
Il giorno 09/feb/2014, alle ore 21:45, Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkra@...> ha scritto:
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Watermaker air bubbles
Our Dessalator 60 is producing great water, but the flow meter is full of air bubbles.... Slowly wind up the pressure through the orange zone, lots of air... Enter the green zone and the flow increses and the bubbles go away...for about 20 seconds and then they're back and don't go away. If we continue to increase the pressure and enter the red zone, the bubbles go away, wind back into the green zone and no bubbles....for about 20 seconds and then they're back and don't go away.
Anyone had this experience ? Clues on what to do ?...seems to me the pump must be sucking in air somewhere, but where ?
Cheers Alan SV Elyse SM437
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Re: Turkish Marinas
Rink De Haan
Hi Herbert
Leros is a beautiful island and the Leros marina is very good. There is also a cheaper second marina which is closer to the center of the town but I would not leave my boat there for two months. Leros is nicely centered in that area. Connections to the rest of the world are limited. You also gave to check the new Greek cruising tax which could become costly. I would recommend a base in Turkey like Kusadasi, Turgutreis or Fethye which have very good facilities and good connections to European airports. Cheers Rink de Haan SM2K #330 Razor's Edge Kusadasi Turkey
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkra@...>
What is the exact name of the marina in Ragusa? Pozallo? Best Regards Dimitris Από το iPad μου
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Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance
Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Richard, That link does not seem to work Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On
Behalf Of Richard03801
Hi all for what it's worth Pan
Scot is a great broker that is working on a special deal for Amel owners at a 10% discount. It's worth a try, get a quote nothing lose +1 (914) 217-7991
Richard Piller
Cell 603 767 5330
On Feb 5, 2014, at 17:56, <yahoogroups@...>
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Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Hi all for what it's worth Pan Scot is a great broker that is working on a special deal for Amel owners at a 10% discount. It's worth a try, get a quote nothing lose +1 (914) 217-7991 Regards Richard Piller Cell 603 767 5330
On Feb 5, 2014, at 17:56, <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas
Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
Hello Ian and Judy,
We had the same problem about three or four years ago. We
found that at the western end of the system of bays etc from Split the end of
the bay was a marina named on the chart,Bing etc. Marina which was much cheaper
than the ones nearer Split and the airport. we used it and there is a good road
from it to the airport. Must be worth Googling.
Love from Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319, Malta
Thanks, Rink, The only problem I have found with Levkas
at the moment is that UK flights there seem to be charter flights starting in
the UK. I shall do some more research
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azem, SM 302 Ragusa > To: amelyachtowners@... > From: rinkdehaan@... > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:27:11 +0100 > Subject: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas > > Hi Ian and Judy, > > We spend a season jn Levkas marina and liked it very much. It is close to Levkas city which is a nice little town. We also experienced Cleopatra marina, which is cheaper, good but basic. > The big problem with that part of Greece is that the airport is closed for international flights from October to May (at least in 2009). As an alternative yoy could also check out Messolonghi Marina which is close to Patras airport and an hour bus drive from Athens. > > Cheers, > > Rink de Haan > Razor's Edge > SM2k #330 currently in Kusadasi Turkey > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > amelyachtowners-digest@... > amelyachtowners-fullfeatured@... > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... > > <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: > http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ >
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Turkish Marinas
Herbert Lackner
Dear all,
we plan to visit the turkish coast this spring and autumn and are looking for a place to leave the boat in the water during July / August and then later for the winter on the land. We will leave Croatia in April and we thought on selecting Leros as a base for july & august and for the winter and to discover the Turkish west-coast from there.
Another possibility would be to go direct to Turkey and leave Kali Mera there, - can you share some of your experiences with us? Which marinas would you recommend that are save and fair priced where we could leave the boat in the water in summer and on the land in the winter when we are at home, are there other places than a marina where the boat can stay save?
Any experiences / recommendations with Leros?
Thank you
Herbert Kali Mera, SN120, Sukosan
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Re: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Thanks, Rink, The only problem I have found with Levkas at the moment is that UK flights there seem to be charter flights starting in the UK. I shall do some more research
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azem, SM 302 Ragusa > To: amelyachtowners@... > From: rinkdehaan@... > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:27:11 +0100 > Subject: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas > > Hi Ian and Judy, > > We spend a season jn Levkas marina and liked it very much. It is close to Levkas city which is a nice little town. We also experienced Cleopatra marina, which is cheaper, good but basic. > The big problem with that part of Greece is that the airport is closed for international flights from October to May (at least in 2009). As an alternative yoy could also check out Messolonghi Marina which is close to Patras airport and an hour bus drive from Athens. > > Cheers, > > Rink de Haan > Razor's Edge > SM2k #330 currently in Kusadasi Turkey > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > amelyachtowners-digest@... > amelyachtowners-fullfeatured@... > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... > > <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: > http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ >
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Dear Herbert, Stephanie,Peter, Gerhard and Dimitris, Thank you all for your responses. Very encouraging. Sounds as though we might be stuck for choice in Greece ! We are leaning towards using somewhere in the Ionian as a base and cruising Croatia from there. Gerhard, We can thoroughly recommend Ragusa as a safe place to leave a boat in the water over winter. This is our second winter there. It can blow from the northwest but there is not a hint of surge in the marina-- which I consider one of the most important features. It only opened in 2009 when it had just 8 yachts for the winter. That prompted the owners to put their prices way down--we paid 1200 euros last year and 1400 this year---for 7 months and it now has a lively crowd of yachts--few motorboats. There is a good crowd wintering aboard , from all over northern Europe , the US, Aussies, Kiwis, etc and always another yottie to keep an eye on your boat. Local yacht services are not sophisticated but that will grow and in any event Malta is only 60 miles away and you can get everything done there. There is hard standing ashore but it is exposed to the weather and seas braking against the seawall will dump a lot of salt on your boat. Also, they were not too keen on owners working on their hulls when ashore. Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa To: amelyachtowners@... From: dkra@... Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:57:20 +0200 Subject: RE: [Amel] Greek marinas Hi to All,
The best marina for live aboard is for sure Lefkas , Cleopatra is no bad if you leave your boat.
Regards
Dimitris S/Y Alma Libre Too Amel 54
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:59 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
Hi Ian & Judy, We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year. It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price. You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager. How is Ragusa? We'd like to go there or Licata one year as well. Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
Hi to All,
The best marina for live aboard is for sure Lefkas , Cleopatra is no bad if you leave your boat.
Regards
Dimitris S/Y Alma Libre Too Amel 54
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:59 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
Hi Ian & Judy,
We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year. It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price. You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager.
How is Ragusa? We'd like to go there or Licata one year as well.
Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece
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Sales and blatant self advertising
Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
Dear Bill,
I have read your message with interest. One of the important
principles of this forum is to respect the opinions expressed by others and
another is to exclude commercial interests to avoid the possibility of, for
example, several different manufacturers or yards cluttering up the site. Our
Moderator made this clear to a yard in St Raphael last summer.
I have been upset that after I submitted the remarks below on
28 September you and Dave Benjamin took it upon yourselves to rubbish Lee Sails
HK quite unjustifiably and to offer conflicting advice in the form of your
own opinions and this,it seemed to me was an attempt to make it clear that I was
wrong in my description of the sails that I had bought. It in no way attempted
to suggest that it was the only solution This was so blatant that I felt
constrained to list some of my experience in my message to Charles. I might add
that I have only just looked at Daves info on Lee Sails only to find that he was
referring to Lee Sails Canada which, from the pictures included seem to be a
totally different kettle of fish to Lee Sails, Hong Kong.
Be that as it may it is still no reason for other members of
the forum to attempt to influence people to disregard mine or anyone elses
opinions.
Regards, John Hollamby, Bali Hai, SM2k319
Malta
28/09/2013
“We had the three white sails made for Bali Hai by
Lee Sails in Hong Kong for less than €7000 including delivery to Malta in under
four weeks. They were ordered via the Maltese sailmaker who sent them all the
details including my request that one of the camber stripes on the main should
be incorporated into the Amel logo. The sails are very good and are flatter than
the original sails made by Gateff and the main also has vertical battens thus
enabling much less negative roach I did also get a quote from Gateff which is, I
believe, part of Doyle Sails. Luckily it was twice as much as the quote that our
local sailmaker got from Lee Sails thus making the decision easy”.
Hi Mike,
I hope all goes well with you and yours. We are still
living in Malta and have put the boat up for sale as my hip has never been good
since it was replaced and anyhow at 83 in a couple of weeks one has to try to be
realistic.
You will see from the stuff below I have upset an
American sail maker by telling him that vertical battens are good based on my
experience with the one you made for me about 15 years ago and on the sails that
I had made by Lee Sails which are very satisfactory. I am being pilloried by the
sailmaker and by another Amel owner who is very clear that Lee sails are crap.
He goes on so much that I think that he must be have an problem.
If I remember correctly You had an arrangement with
Doyles and that since then they have bought up a lot of sail makers worldwide and have sails made by China Sails. I
wonder whether they also believe that vertical battens are a no-no?
I would love to have your views on the subject, I do
recall that the main sail you made for my Oyster was seven per cent larger than
the original.
Best wishes Holl
From:
dave_benjamin@...
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 9:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [Amel] Sails for
Maramu
Bill,
Excellent points. I too am bewildered by people who gravitate to the absolute cheapest sail for a high end cruising yacht. Yet they'll spend heaps of money on electronics and gadgets they don't need.
The proprietary cloth, particularly crap like North's Nordac, is an annoyance to me as well. North won't publish the detailed specifications like Challenge and other manufacturers offer. The real reason for this trend is that the big money is really going into the advertising budget. They'd rather pump money into ads then quality products.
The radial Hydranet was a far better choice for your boat than a radial Dacron. Personally, I'd go with a load path membrane if I owned an SM, but the Hydranet radial is good stuff. ---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote: Dave,
Thanks for your input as a respected
sailmaker. As a non-sailmaker and with no experience other than a buyer of
sails, I agree with you completely.
Sails, their maintenance, and replacement are
a major expense. I am sometimes bewildered at the decisions made by some people.
The same people would never go to the lowest price brand of a diesel engine
replacement will order sails sight unseen from China where the norm is to
substitute any material that looks like what it should be for a piece of
crap.
I guess it is because there really is a lot
of mystery in sail selection that some of us revert to making a decision based
on either the wrong things, or just price.
Another thing that adds to the mystery and
our confusion is the trend of larger brands (North Sails, UK Sails, etc.) to
have their "own brand" sailcloth. I know why this exists, but I am betting that
few people understand why. It is this simple: The major cost in the "bill
of materials" on a finished sail is sailcloth. If manufacturer A is using the
exact same sailcloth as manufacturer B, the only significant difference
in selling price is their Gross Margin. To avoid competing with discounts in
Gross Margin, they "invent" a new sailcloth branded to them only...now they have
no direct competition on their finished product. For this reason, I eliminated
from my search for new sails any proprietary sailcloth offered by major
sailmaker brands.
I did choose Hydranet in a triradial cut.
And, I will admit that it was probably overkill. But I would not use crosscut
Dacron...the belly is going to bulge! If I were to use Dacron, I would do it in
a triradial cut. The belly is still going to bulge, but not as fast and not as
much. But, a crosscut dacron sail is about half the price of a triradial cut
hydranet...so as was stated earlier...two for the price of one...what are you
going to do. I previously had a Beneteau. My decision on sails for it was
crosscut dacron...easy decision. I now have an Amel and I think she is happier
with better...call me nuts!
I recommend QSails.com in Turkey...they made
our sails a year ago and they ship worldwide.
Hope this helps someone.
Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
.
28/09/2013
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
spritoaffine
We were in Croatia last year and had the same problem. I would recommend
Brindisi marina in Italy and only just over 100 miles from Dubrovnik, a nice
town, reasonable prices and friendly folk. Cleopatra marina on the Greek
mainland just north of Levkas and opposite Preveza town ticks the same boxes. I
would stay away from Gouvia marina on Corfu and Levkas marina both of which are
big impersonal places and more expensive
David Worthington Spirito Affine
Sharki 148 Preveza
Hi all, We were planning to cruise Croatia
this summer. We avoid marinas, but weddings and aged parents mean that we have
to leave Pen Azen in marinas for regular returns to London ( best from
Split).Having emailed half a dozen Croatian marinas their responses have been
that they are full with charter boats and that we cannot make reservations
ahead of time as they cannot guarantee us a slot.
That prompts us to look at Corfu or Levkas as a base for summer cruising
and possibly for a winter berth.
If anyone has experience of these two marinas ( or any nearby ) it
would be good to hear. Also, if anyone has any suggestions of where else we
might try in Croatia--they seem very efficient but we are getting the impression
that cruising boats are not their first priority.
Ian & Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa,
Sicily
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
pepinoamel <no_reply@...>
Hi Ian & Judy, We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year. It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price. You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager. How is Ragusa? We'd like to go there or Licata one year as well. Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas
Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
Hi Ian and Judy! I do not know much about the marina in Pescara, Italy, other than I know one is there -- Pescara is on the Adriatic, in the Abruzzo/Molisse area. Fair winds! Stephanie DiBelardino SM2000 353 Indecent Lying Grand Bahama Island
On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:27 AM, peter killen <peterkillen@...> wrote:
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