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Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Try this site call Scott Stusek  +1 (914) 217-7991 he'll take good care. 


Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Feb 9, 2014, at 15:31, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

That link does not seem to work

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance

 

 

Hi all for what it's worth Pan

 

Scot is a great broker that is working on a special deal for Amel owners at a 10% discount. It's worth a try, get a quote nothing lose   

+1 (914) 217-7991

 


Regards 

Richard Piller

 

Cell 603 767 5330


On Feb 5, 2014, at 17:56, <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

We have "Round the World" with DeLasse. They will insure US flagged vessels only if it has a home port that is not one of the 50 US states. Ours is St Thomas USVI. Our boat is insured virtually anywhere except US waters. Virgin Islands is not defined as US waters to them. The policy is great. Bill BeBe 387


Re: [Amel] Greek Cruising Tax - Cancelled?

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi Ian
At the Amel Yachtowners group on Facebook, and at Cruising Assosiation (CA) you have more info and fact. But as I understand it, the tax is just postponed until they have the new software ready and have educated the staff.

/Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila.  SM #232

Skickat från min iPad

9 feb 2014 kl. 17:57 skrev "Ian Shepherd" <sv_freespirit@...>:

 

A friend of mine who lives in Leros and who owns two yachts there has
said that he talked about the proposed Greek cruising tax with his local
Port Police. He was told that the plan to introduce the tax this year
had been shelved. Good news! I am not certain if the tax has been
dropped for all flags but I will endeavour to find out next time I speak
with him.

Please don't shoot the messenger if they gave him misinformation. I am
only passing on what he relayed througfh friends to me.

Ian Shepherd SM2000 414 Crusader Cyprus


Greek Cruising Tax - Cancelled?

Ian Shepherd
 

A friend of mine who lives in Leros and who owns two yachts there has said that he talked about the proposed Greek cruising tax with his local Port Police. He was told that the plan to introduce the tax this year had been shelved. Good news! I am not certain if the tax has been dropped for all flags but I will endeavour to find out next time I speak with him.

Please don't shoot the messenger if they gave him misinformation. I am only passing on what he relayed througfh friends to me.

Ian Shepherd SM2000 414 Crusader Cyprus


Re: Watermaker air bubbles

Alan Leslie
 

I found it !!

 

Its the sampling tap sucking in air...rubber bung is a temporary fix...need a new tap clearly !!

 

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel] Watermaker air bubbles

karkauai
 

I had a similar problem caused by failed hose clamps on the intake hose for the air conditioner pump.  The clamps had failed due to rusting and eventually gave way while running the AC at the dock.  Fortunately I was aboard and noticed the bilge pump running.  There was a LOT of water coming thru the intake hose which had come off the AC pump!  After replacing the hose clamps I no longer had air in the watermaker.  I've since replaced all the hose clamps on the boat with high quality Stainless ones.
Start at the Watermaker and work your way back to the manifold at the sea chest.  Anything attached to the manifold can be the source...engine raw water, genset raw water, AC pump, or Watermaker intake hoses.
I don't leave the AC running when I leave the boat any more.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:18 PM, <divanz620@...> wrote:

 

Our Dessalator 60 is producing great water, but the flow meter is full of air bubbles....

Slowly wind up the pressure through the orange zone, lots of air...

Enter the green zone and the flow increses and the bubbles go away...for about 20 seconds and then they're back and don't go away.

If we continue to increase the pressure and enter the red zone, the bubbles go away, wind back into the green zone and no bubbles....for about 20 seconds and then they're back and don't go away.

 

Anyone had this experience ? Clues on what to do ?...seems to me the pump must be sucking in air somewhere, but where ?

 

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

No, Pozzallo in another place, Marina Ragusa in on the shoreside of the city of Ragusa, South of Sicily.

Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 09/feb/2014, alle ore 21:45, Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkra@...> ha scritto:


What is the exact name of the marina in Ragusa? Pozallo?

Best Regards

Dimitris

Από το iPad μου

9 Φεβ 2014, 8:51 μ.μ., ο/η Ian & Judy <ianjudyjenkins@...> έγραψε:

 

Dear Herbert, Stephanie,Peter, Gerhard and Dimitris,
                                
 Thank you all for your responses. Very encouraging. Sounds as though we might be stuck for choice in Greece ! We are leaning towards using somewhere in the Ionian as a base and cruising Croatia from there.
 Gerhard,  We can thoroughly recommend Ragusa as a safe place to leave a boat in the water over winter. This is our second winter there. It can blow from the northwest but there is not a hint of surge in the marina-- which I consider one of the most important features. It only opened in 2009 when it had just 8 yachts for the winter. That prompted the owners to put their prices way down--we paid 1200 euros last year and 1400 this year---for 7 months and it now has a lively crowd of yachts--few motorboats. There is a good crowd wintering aboard  , f rom all over northern Europe , the US, Aussies, Kiwis, etc  and always another yottie to keep an eye on your boat. Local yacht services are not sophisticated but that will grow and in any event Malta is only 60 miles away and you can get everything done there. There is hard standing ashore but it is exposed to the weather and seas braking against the seawall will dump a lot of salt on your boat. Also, they were not too keen on owners working on their hulls when ashore.
   Fair winds,
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: dkra@...
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:57:20 +0200
Subject: RE: [Amel] Greek marinas



Hi to All,

 

The best marina for live aboard is for sure Lefkas , Cleopatra is no bad if you leave your boat.

 

Regards

 

Dimitris

S/Y Alma Libre Too

Amel 54

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

 
 
Hi Ian & Judy,
 
We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year.  It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price.  You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager.
 
How is Ragusa?  We'd like to go there o r Licata one year as well.
 
Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece
 







Watermaker air bubbles

Alan Leslie
 

Our Dessalator 60 is producing great water, but the flow meter is full of air bubbles....

Slowly wind up the pressure through the orange zone, lots of air...

Enter the green zone and the flow increses and the bubbles go away...for about 20 seconds and then they're back and don't go away.

If we continue to increase the pressure and enter the red zone, the bubbles go away, wind back into the green zone and no bubbles....for about 20 seconds and then they're back and don't go away.

 

Anyone had this experience ? Clues on what to do ?...seems to me the pump must be sucking in air somewhere, but where ?

 

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437


Re: Turkish Marinas

Rink De Haan
 

Hi Herbert

Leros is a beautiful island and the Leros marina is very good. There is also a cheaper second marina which is closer to the center of the town but I would not leave my boat there for two months. Leros is nicely centered in that area. Connections to the rest of the world are limited. You also gave to check the new Greek cruising tax which could become costly. I would recommend a base in Turkey like Kusadasi, Turgutreis or Fethye which have very good facilities and good connections to European airports.

Cheers
Rink de Haan
SM2K #330 Razor's Edge
Kusadasi Turkey


Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkra@...>
 

What is the exact name of the marina in Ragusa? Pozallo?

Best Regards

Dimitris

Από το iPad μου

9 Φεβ 2014, 8:51 μ.μ., ο/η Ian & Judy <ianjudyjenkins@...> έγραψε:

 

Dear Herbert, Stephanie,Peter, Gerhard and Dimitris,
                                
 Thank you all for your responses. Very encouraging. Sounds as though we might be stuck for choice in Greece ! We are leaning towards using somewhere in the Ionian as a base and cruising Croatia from there.
 Gerhard,  We can thoroughly recommend Ragusa as a safe place to leave a boat in the water over winter. This is our second winter there. It can blow from the northwest but there is not a hint of surge in the marina-- which I consider one of the most important features. It only opened in 2009 when it had just 8 yachts for the winter. That prompted the owners to put their prices way down--we paid 1200 euros last year and 1400 this year---for 7 months and it now has a lively crowd of yachts--few motorboats. There is a good crowd wintering aboard  , f rom all over northern Europe , the US, Aussies, Kiwis, etc  and always another yottie to keep an eye on your boat. Local yacht services are not sophisticated but that will grow and in any event Malta is only 60 miles away and you can get everything done there. There is hard standing ashore but it is exposed to the weather and seas braking against the seawall will dump a lot of salt on your boat. Also, they were not too keen on owners working on their hulls when ashore.
   Fair winds,
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: dkra@...
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:57:20 +0200
Subject: RE: [Amel] Greek marinas



Hi to All,

 

The best marina for live aboard is for sure Lefkas , Cleopatra is no bad if you leave your boat.

 

Regards

 

Dimitris

S/Y Alma Libre Too

Amel 54

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

 

 

Hi Ian & Judy,
 
We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year.  It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price.  You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager.
 
How is Ragusa?  We'd like to go there o r Licata one year as well.
 
Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece
 




Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi Richard,

That link does not seem to work

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance

 

 

Hi all for what it's worth Pan

 

Scot is a great broker that is working on a special deal for Amel owners at a 10% discount. It's worth a try, get a quote nothing lose   

+1 (914) 217-7991

 


Regards 

Richard Piller

 

Cell 603 767 5330


On Feb 5, 2014, at 17:56, <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

We have "Round the World" with DeLasse. They will insure US flagged vessels only if it has a home port that is not one of the 50 US states. Ours is St Thomas USVI. Our boat is insured virtually anywhere except US waters. Virgin Islands is not defined as US waters to them. The policy is great. Bill BeBe 387


Re: [Amel] RE: Cruising Insurance

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi all for what it's worth Pan

Scot is a great broker that is working on a special deal for Amel owners at a 10% discount. It's worth a try, get a quote nothing lose   
+1 (914) 217-7991


Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Feb 5, 2014, at 17:56, <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

We have "Round the World" with DeLasse. They will insure US flagged vessels only if it has a home port that is not one of the 50 US states. Ours is St Thomas USVI. Our boat is insured virtually anywhere except US waters. Virgin Islands is not defined as US waters to them. The policy is great. Bill BeBe 387


Re: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy,
We had the same problem about three or four years ago. We found that at the western end of the system of bays etc from Split the end of the bay was a marina named on the chart,Bing etc. Marina which was much cheaper than the ones nearer Split and the airport. we used it and there is a good road from it to the airport. Must be worth Googling.
                           
                                   Love from Anne and John, Bali Hai,  SM 319,   Malta
 

From: Ian & Judy
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas
 
 

Thanks, Rink,   The only problem I have found with Levkas at the moment is that UK flights there seem to be charter flights starting in the UK. I shall do some more research
 
  Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azem, SM 302 Ragusa

> To: amelyachtowners@...
> From: rinkdehaan@...
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:27:11 +0100
> Subject: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas
>
> Hi Ian and Judy,
>
> We spend a season jn Levkas marina and liked it very much. It is close to Levkas city which is a nice little town. We also experienced Cleopatra marina, which is cheaper, good but basic.
> The big problem with that part of Greece is that the airport is closed for international flights from October to May (at least in 2009). As an alternative yoy could also check out Messolonghi Marina which is close to Patras airport and an hour bus drive from Athens.
>
> Cheers,
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Turkish Marinas

Herbert Lackner
 

Dear all,

 

we plan to visit the turkish coast this spring and autumn and are looking for a place to leave the boat in the water during July / August and then later for the winter on the land.  We will leave Croatia in April and we thought on selecting Leros as a base for july & august  and for the winter and to discover the Turkish west-coast from there. 

 

Another possibility would be to go direct to Turkey and leave Kali Mera there, - can you share some of your experiences with us? Which marinas would you recommend that are save and fair priced where we could leave the boat in the water in summer and on the land in the winter when we are at home,   are there other places than a marina where the boat can stay save?

 

Any experiences / recommendations with Leros?

 

Thank you

 

Herbert

Kali Mera, SN120, Sukosan


Re: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, Rink,   The only problem I have found with Levkas at the moment is that UK flights there seem to be charter flights starting in the UK. I shall do some more research

  Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azem, SM 302 Ragusa

> To: amelyachtowners@...
> From: rinkdehaan@...
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:27:11 +0100
> Subject: [Amel] Re: Greek marinas
>
> Hi Ian and Judy,
>
> We spend a season jn Levkas marina and liked it very much. It is close to Levkas city which is a nice little town. We also experienced Cleopatra marina, which is cheaper, good but basic.
> The big problem with that part of Greece is that the airport is closed for international flights from October to May (at least in 2009). As an alternative yoy could also check out Messolonghi Marina which is close to Patras airport and an hour bus drive from Athens.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rink de Haan
> Razor's Edge
> SM2k #330 currently in Kusadasi Turkey
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Herbert, Stephanie,Peter, Gerhard and Dimitris,
                                
 Thank you all for your responses. Very encouraging. Sounds as though we might be stuck for choice in Greece ! We are leaning towards using somewhere in the Ionian as a base and cruising Croatia from there.
 Gerhard,  We can thoroughly recommend Ragusa as a safe place to leave a boat in the water over winter. This is our second winter there. It can blow from the northwest but there is not a hint of surge in the marina-- which I consider one of the most important features. It only opened in 2009 when it had just 8 yachts for the winter. That prompted the owners to put their prices way down--we paid 1200 euros last year and 1400 this year---for 7 months and it now has a lively crowd of yachts--few motorboats. There is a good crowd wintering aboard  , from all over northern Europe , the US, Aussies, Kiwis, etc  and always another yottie to keep an eye on your boat. Local yacht services are not sophisticated but that will grow and in any event Malta is only 60 miles away and you can get everything done there. There is hard standing ashore but it is exposed to the weather and seas braking against the seawall will dump a lot of salt on your boat. Also, they were not too keen on owners working on their hulls when ashore.
   Fair winds,
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: dkra@...
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:57:20 +0200
Subject: RE: [Amel] Greek marinas



Hi to All,

 

The best marina for live aboard is for sure Lefkas , Cleopatra is no bad if you leave your boat.

 

Regards

 

Dimitris

S/Y Alma Libre Too

Amel 54

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

 

 

Hi Ian & Judy,
 
We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year.  It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price.  You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager.
 
How is Ragusa?  We'd like to go there or Licata one year as well.
 
Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece
 




Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

Hi to All,

 

The best marina for live aboard is for sure Lefkas , Cleopatra is no bad if you leave your boat.

 

Regards

 

Dimitris

S/Y Alma Libre Too

Amel 54

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

 

 

Hi Ian & Judy,

 

We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year.  It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price.  You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager.

 

How is Ragusa?  We'd like to go there or Licata one year as well.

 

Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece

 


Sales and blatant self advertising

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

 
 
 
 
Dear Bill,
I have read your message with interest. One of the important principles of this forum is to respect the opinions expressed by others and another is to exclude commercial interests to avoid the possibility of, for example, several different manufacturers or yards cluttering up the site. Our Moderator made this clear to a yard in St Raphael last summer.
I have been upset that after I submitted the remarks below on 28 September you and Dave Benjamin took it upon yourselves to rubbish Lee Sails HK quite unjustifiably and to offer conflicting advice  in the form of your own opinions and this,it seemed to me was an attempt to make it clear that I was wrong in my description of the sails that I had bought. It in no way attempted to suggest that it was the only solution This was so blatant that I felt constrained to list some of my experience in my message to Charles. I might add that I have only just looked at Daves info on Lee Sails only to find that he was referring to Lee Sails Canada which, from the pictures included seem to be a totally different kettle of fish to Lee Sails, Hong Kong.
Be that as it may it is still no reason for other members of the forum to attempt to influence people to disregard mine or anyone elses opinions.
 
                                Regards,   John Hollamby, Bali Hai, SM2k319   Malta
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         28/09/2013
“We had the three white sails made for Bali Hai by Lee Sails in Hong Kong for less than €7000 including delivery to Malta in under four weeks. They were ordered via the Maltese sailmaker who sent them all the details including my request that one of the camber stripes on the main should be incorporated into the Amel logo. The sails are very good and are flatter than the original sails made by Gateff and the main also has vertical battens thus enabling much less negative roach I did also get a quote from Gateff which is, I believe, part of Doyle Sails. Luckily it was twice as much as the quote that our local sailmaker got from Lee Sails thus making the decision easy”.
 
 
Hi Mike,
I hope all goes well with you and yours. We are still living in Malta and have put the boat up for sale as my hip has never been good since it was replaced and anyhow at 83 in a couple of weeks one has to try to be realistic.
You will see from the stuff below I have upset an American sail maker by telling him that vertical battens are good based on my experience with the one you made for me about 15 years ago and on the sails that I had made by Lee Sails which are very satisfactory. I am being pilloried by the sailmaker and by another Amel owner who is very clear that Lee sails are crap. He goes on so much that I think that he must be have an problem.
If I remember correctly You had an arrangement with Doyles and that since then they have bought up a lot of sail makers worldwide and have sails made by China Sails.  I wonder whether they also believe that vertical battens are a no-no?
I would love to have your views on the subject, I do recall that the main sail you made for my Oyster was seven per cent larger than the original.
 
                                          Best wishes  Holl
 
From: dave_benjamin@...
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 9:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [Amel] Sails for Maramu
 
 

Bill,

 

Excellent points. I too am bewildered by people who gravitate to the absolute cheapest sail for a high end cruising yacht. Yet they'll spend heaps of money on electronics and gadgets they don't need.

 

The proprietary cloth, particularly crap like North's Nordac, is an annoyance to me as well. North won't publish the detailed specifications like Challenge and other manufacturers offer. The real reason for this trend is that the big money is really going into the advertising budget. They'd rather pump money into ads then quality products.

 

The radial Hydranet was a far better choice for your boat than a radial Dacron. Personally, I'd go with a load path membrane if I owned an SM, but the Hydranet radial is good stuff. 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

Dave,
 
Thanks for your input as a respected sailmaker. As a non-sailmaker and with no experience other than a buyer of sails, I agree with you completely.
 
Sails, their maintenance, and replacement are a major expense. I am sometimes bewildered at the decisions made by some people. The same people would never go to the lowest price brand of a diesel engine replacement will order sails sight unseen from China where the norm is to substitute any material that looks like what it should be for a piece of crap.
 
I guess it is because there really is a lot of mystery in sail selection that some of us revert to making a decision based on either the wrong things, or just price.
 
Another thing that adds to the mystery and our confusion is the trend of larger brands (North Sails, UK Sails, etc.) to have their "own brand" sailcloth. I know why this exists, but I am betting that few people understand why. It is this simple: The major cost in the "bill of materials" on a finished sail is sailcloth. If manufacturer A is using the exact same sailcloth as manufacturer B, the only significant difference in selling price is their Gross Margin. To avoid competing with discounts in Gross Margin, they "invent" a new sailcloth branded to them only...now they have no direct competition on their finished product. For this reason, I eliminated from my search for new sails any proprietary sailcloth offered by major sailmaker brands.
 
I did choose Hydranet in a triradial cut. And, I will admit that it was probably overkill. But I would not use crosscut Dacron...the belly is going to bulge! If I were to use Dacron, I would do it in a triradial cut. The belly is still going to bulge, but not as fast and not as much. But, a crosscut dacron sail is about half the price of a triradial cut hydranet...so as was stated earlier...two for the price of one...what are you going to do. I previously had a Beneteau. My decision on sails for it was crosscut dacron...easy decision. I now have an Amel and I think she is happier with better...call me nuts!
 
I recommend QSails.com in Turkey...they made our sails a year ago and they ship worldwide.
 
Hope this helps someone.
 
Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:02 PM, <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:
 

Anne and John,

 

As a sailmaker, I'm baffled by your remark. For your information, some of the larger spar manufacturers that make the furling masts specify not to use vertical battens. The last thing a professional sailmaker wants to do is set something up for failure. For me to put a sail on a client's boat in a manner that runs counter to published specifications is unethical and irresponsible.

 

We're building a furling main for an Oyster 53 at the moment. That sail has vertical battens, however without going with fairly long battens, we don't really get to add roach. Using 4 foot battens, we can reduce leech hollow from about 10 inches to 2 inches. Using 6 foot battens, we could add about 2 inches of roach. So the gains aren't particularly large. Very few furling systems will reliably tolerate the really long battens that would allow for a meaningful amount of  roach. We don't want to have the battens overlapping.

 

If you wanted a boat with a powerful mainsail, you should not have bought one with a furling rig. While you can use vertical battens on the Nirvana and Amel manufactured masts, you're still dealing with some compromises. Maintenance requirements will be greater for furling mains with vertical battens as opposed to those without.

 

Regards,

 

Another one of those sailmakers with head in sand

 

Dave Benjamin - www.islandplanetsails.com

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote:

Hello Charles,
I have just repeated my views on vertical battens.It is a pity that some, but not all sailmakers have this superstition about vertical battens. I think if they got their act together they would develop much better furling sails with battens. There seems to be a “head in the sands”mentality on the part of some.
 
                    Best wishes,   Anne and John,   Bali Hai,   SM2K 319,   Malta
 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 5:18 PM
Subject: [Amel] Sails for Maramu
 
 


Following up on a previous discussion, --and thanks to the directions I got from you-- I wrote DEME and they sent an estimate for Dacron “cross-cut” (?) sails and Mylar “coupe orientée” (??) sails, the latter somewhat more expensive. The three sails (Main, Mizzen, Genoa) would come to about 7000 Euros. They say they do not cut sails with batten because they fear there is not enough space in the mast, an objection that one of you addressed already. Any comments on this (for which I would be very grateful)?
Fair winds,
Charles
(Maramu N° 253)

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Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

spritoaffine
 

We were in Croatia last year and had the same problem. I would recommend Brindisi marina in Italy and only just over 100 miles from Dubrovnik, a nice town, reasonable prices and friendly folk. Cleopatra marina on the Greek mainland just north of Levkas and opposite Preveza town ticks the same boxes. I would stay away from Gouvia marina on Corfu and Levkas marina both of which are big impersonal places and more expensive
David Worthington Spirito Affine
Sharki 148 Preveza
 

From: Ian & Judy
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 7:34 PM
Subject: [Amel] Greek marinas
 
 

Hi all,     We were planning to cruise Croatia this summer. We avoid marinas, but weddings and aged parents mean that we have to leave Pen Azen in marinas for regular returns to London ( best from Split).Having emailed half a dozen Croatian marinas their responses have been that they are full with charter boats and that  we cannot make reservations ahead of time as they cannot guarantee us a slot.
That prompts us to look at Corfu or Levkas as a base for summer cruising and possibly for a winter berth.
If anyone has experience of these two marinas ( or any nearby )  it would be good to hear. Also, if anyone has any suggestions of where else we might try in Croatia--they seem very efficient but we are getting the impression that cruising boats are not their first priority.
   Ian  & Judy,   Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa, Sicily


Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

pepinoamel <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Ian & Judy,


We are currently wintering in Lefkas marina for the second year.  It's very safe here, close to town and a reasonable price.  You can look them up on Google and contact Spiros Dallos, the Manager.


How is Ragusa?  We'd like to go there or Licata one year as well.


Gerhard, Pepino, SM 381, Lefkas, Greece



Re: [Amel] Greek marinas

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Hi Ian and Judy!

I do not know much about the marina in Pescara, Italy, other than I know one is there -- Pescara is on the Adriatic, in the Abruzzo/Molisse area. 

Fair winds!
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM2000 353 Indecent
Lying Grand Bahama Island


On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:27 AM, peter killen <peterkillen@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ian and Judy
We based pure magic in gouvia marina for two years, during the winters, whilst we explored that part of the med including Venice. We hauled each winter and during all our time in Corfu, PM was looked after a man named Bob Sutcliff (of Bob's yachts).  He looked after her incredibly well. He is a first class mechanic apart from many other attributes. 

We did leave her also in Croatia for some time one summer, and if you want details of a place and person there let me know

Regards

Peter. Pure Magic. SM433
currently in Antigua 


On 8 Feb 2014, at 20:34, Ian & Judy <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,     We were planning to cruise Croatia this summer. We avoid marinas, but weddings and aged parents mean that we have to leave Pen Azen in marinas for regular returns to London ( best from Split).Having emailed half a dozen Croatian marinas their responses have been that they are full with charter boats and that  we cannot make reservations ahead of time as they cannot guarantee us a slot.
 That prompts us to look at Corfu or Levkas as a base for summer cruising and possibly for a winter berth.
If anyone has experience of these two marinas ( or any nearby )  it would be good to hear. Also, if anyone has any suggestions of where else we might try in Croatia--they seem very efficient but we are getting the impression that cruising boats are not their first priority.
   Ian  & Judy,   Pen Azen, SM 302, Ragusa, Sicily