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Re: Looking for 12 batteries AUSTRALIA

seagasm@...
 

I found the brand I was looking for and available in Wynumm. I have not purchased any yet, I will look at it further when I return. They are RITAR RA12-120SD and is a AGM Deep cycle battery with 10 years floating
design life, Like everything else these days, they are made in China, URL:www.ritarpower.com so you can check out their specs.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM #171


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for 12 batteries AUSTRALIA

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

We Have 12 6 volt golf cart type wet cell batteries coonected in three banks of four to give 24 volts.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New zealand

From: Giovanni Testa
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 9:09 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for 12 batteries AUSTRALIA
 

Hi Mike and to all,
I'm looking for 12 batteries to replace old ones.
The boat is now at Bundaberg Port Marina AUS and I have a lot of problems to find 12 batteries to well place into our battery room.
More local shops don't give me prompt and professional support.
So I'm looking around ( now I'm at home, Venezia, Italy) to find or AGM ( better) or wet ( as my old ones). So please which is your opinion about TROJAN SCS 200?  Problem with their sizes( over all for hight ) ?
More please to all,  any suggestions to find here a good batteries store ( Brisbane,Bundaberg,Gladstone) ?
Thanks in advance to all
Giovanni TESTA
sv EUTIKIA SM 428
Bundaberg Port Marina
 
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To add to the info from Gary Silver ref Peukert Constant, I am using Trojan SCS 200 batteries. The Peukert Constant is 2.22
Mike Gough,
SM 378


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Re: new software

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C'mon mate, give this a miss, try another way of testing will you!

Barry, TW3


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Re: Looking for 12 batteries AUSTRALIA

seagasm@...
 

How come you need 12, I can only fit 8 plus the engine battery. Up till now I have used Powersonic 12volt 110amp AGM batteries, available from their store in Yatla south Brisbane. There are other brands, one escapes me now but I did find they are available from Wynnum near Manly in Brisbane. If I cannot get down for a replacement, the batteries are available online, as long as you know what you want. I also found some suppliers with deliver for free or at very reasonable charges. TW3 is on the hard there at Bundy, we return next month, when will you be back yourself?

Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM #171


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Eric Freedman
 

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Seeking Volvo TMD22 and Brunton Autoprop information and advice

 

 

Hi,

You have a couple of possible problems:

- are the bearings on the Autoprop been changed since the boat was delivered from Amel? Malfunction from the bearings cause a lot less effective propeller

- are the blades moving without force

- are there any barnacles on the blades, they create cavitation that reduces the propellors efficiency

- check that the fuel valve from the diesel tank is Fully open, if it is partly open the VP can not reach full rpm due to lack of fuel.

 

We have had similar problems and especially the change of bearings created a significant change both in speed and fuel economy. You have most likely a Autoprop H6 with open bearings. On the propeller where the blades are attached you could find the serial number of the propeller that will give you correct bearing set from Brunton.

 

Best regards,

 

Jonas

SM 232 Lady Annila

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14 feb 2014 kl. 11:40 skrev atioceania@...:

 

Hi. We have a 1997 SM, hull 202, with a Volvo TMD22B and Brunton Autoprop that under load will only reach 2300 RPM at best and suboptimal boat speed. The Volvo readily spins up to higher RPMs in neutral with just a bit of white smoke, "sounds good" and doesn't burn any oil; while under load, we reach 2300 at half throttle and then can go no higher no matter how much more fuel we add. A couple of non-Amel mechanics suggest the Autoprop is the trouble, although it seems to fold fine manually when I dive it, and we see no significant difference between it being just cleaned or not.

Does anyone have pitch and setting recommendations for this prop, which I think is an H6, with the Volvo engine on an SM, or any thoughts and advice? Also, who might we talk to to service the prop? We are currently in St Pete FL, with hopes to solve the power problem and be cruising south in the very near future.
 
Thank you.
Scott and DIane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Bow Thruster Position Overrun

goughs_au@...
 

Bill,

The markings on the diode I used to replace the failed one are:  "P600M and MIC". I am not an electronics expert but I feel the controller would function OK without them. The circuit board only other components are three micro relays one for up, one for down and a third I think for main motor lockout.

Regs, Mike SM 378


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Seeking Volvo TMD22 and Brunton Autoprop information and advice

karkauai
 

Oops, somehow sent that before I was done.
The Autoprop folks said that the H6 was the prop they recommended for the SM with the 100HP Yanmar. Amel says they use the same prop on both the 78 HP Volvo and 100 hp Yanmar.  I bought a MaxProp that works great and isn't as sensitive to sea growth.
Good luck and let us know how you resolve the problem.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA


On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Hi Scott.  There are some good threads on this site regarding low RPM with the Volvo TMD22.  Search  RPM, Volvo.  I had the same problem, spent several thousand dollars looking for the cause and finally decided it was the AutoProp.  My spare fixed prop was also oversized and over pitched according to a good prop shop in Norfolk.  Repitched the spare and Voila! Good rpm again.  If you were previously able to get up to 3000 rpms there is another problem.  Check the turbo and exhaust elbow first.  My turbo was shot, probably because it wasn't run hard enough to keep the carbon buildup burned off.  Mage sure your bottom is clean and the prop is free of any growth.  AutoProps are very sensitive to any growth at all.  If there is undue play between the blades and the hub, the prop probably needs servicing.  I also had the entire fuel delivery system cleaned, pump and injectors checked, timing checked, 


On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:40 AM, <atioceania@...> wrote:

 

Hi. We have a 1997 SM, hull 202, with a Volvo TMD22B and Brunton Autoprop that under load will only reach 2300 RPM at best and suboptimal boat speed. The Volvo readily spins up to higher RPMs in neutral with just a bit of white smoke, "sounds good" and doesn't burn any oil; while under load, we reach 2300 at half throttle and then can go no higher no matter how much more fuel we add. A couple of non-Amel mechanics suggest the Autoprop is the trouble, although it seems to fold fine manually when I dive it, and we see no significant difference between it being just cleaned or not.

Does anyone have pitch and setting recommendations for this prop, which I think is an H6, with the Volvo engine on an SM, or any thoughts and advice? Also, who might we talk to to service the prop? We are currently in St Pete FL, with hopes to solve the power problem and be cruising south in the very near future.
 
Thank you.
Scott and DIane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Seeking Volvo TMD22 and Brunton Autoprop information and advice

karkauai
 

Hi Scott.  There are some good threads on this site regarding low RPM with the Volvo TMD22.  Search  RPM, Volvo.  I had the same problem, spent several thousand dollars looking for the cause and finally decided it was the AutoProp.  My spare fixed prop was also oversized and over pitched according to a good prop shop in Norfolk.  Repitched the spare and Voila! Good rpm again.  If you were previously able to get up to 3000 rpms there is another problem.  Check the turbo and exhaust elbow first.  My turbo was shot, probably because it wasn't run hard enough to keep the carbon buildup burned off.  Mage sure your bottom is clean and the prop is free of any growth.  AutoProps are very sensitive to any growth at all.  If there is undue play between the blades and the hub, the prop probably needs servicing.  I also had the entire fuel delivery system cleaned, pump and injectors checked, timing checked, 


On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:40 AM, <atioceania@...> wrote:

 

Hi. We have a 1997 SM, hull 202, with a Volvo TMD22B and Brunton Autoprop that under load will only reach 2300 RPM at best and suboptimal boat speed. The Volvo readily spins up to higher RPMs in neutral with just a bit of white smoke, "sounds good" and doesn't burn any oil; while under load, we reach 2300 at half throttle and then can go no higher no matter how much more fuel we add. A couple of non-Amel mechanics suggest the Autoprop is the trouble, although it seems to fold fine manually when I dive it, and we see no significant difference between it being just cleaned or not.

Does anyone have pitch and setting recommendations for this prop, which I think is an H6, with the Volvo engine on an SM, or any thoughts and advice? Also, who might we talk to to service the prop? We are currently in St Pete FL, with hopes to solve the power problem and be cruising south in the very near future.
 
Thank you.
Scott and DIane


Re: Looking for 12 batteries AUSTRALIA

goughs_au@...
 

Hi Giovanni, dimensions for the SCS200 are at: http://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/datasheets/SCS200_Trojan_Data_Sheets.pdf

Our SM 378 is the 2003 model and those 12 batteries fit perfectly. The ones in there now were installed Sept 2011 and are still OK after approx. 40% connected to shore power. (less cycles). Do I like these batteries? So far so good, I had one fail but it was easy to replace as it is a common size. I hope to replace the bank with the same ones when we reach Singapore next year. (currently in Fiji). Sorry I cannot advise the best shop to go to, perhaps try your luck on the internet.

Best of luck

Mike Gough


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Seeking Volvo TMD22 and Brunton Autoprop information and advice

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi,
You have a couple of possible problems:
- are the bearings on the Autoprop been changed since the boat was delivered from Amel? Malfunction from the bearings cause a lot less effective propeller
- are the blades moving without force
- are there any barnacles on the blades, they create cavitation that reduces the propellors efficiency
- check that the fuel valve from the diesel tank is Fully open, if it is partly open the VP can not reach full rpm due to lack of fuel.

We have had similar problems and especially the change of bearings created a significant change both in speed and fuel economy. You have most likely a Autoprop H6 with open bearings. On the propeller where the blades are attached you could find the serial number of the propeller that will give you correct bearing set from Brunton.

Best regards,

Jonas
SM 232 Lady Annila

Skickat från min iPad

14 feb 2014 kl. 11:40 skrev atioceania@...:

 

Hi. We have a 1997 SM, hull 202, with a Volvo TMD22B and Brunton Autoprop that under load will only reach 2300 RPM at best and suboptimal boat speed. The Volvo readily spins up to higher RPMs in neutral with just a bit of white smoke, "sounds good" and doesn't burn any oil; while under load, we reach 2300 at half throttle and then can go no higher no matter how much more fuel we add. A couple of non-Amel mechanics suggest the Autoprop is the trouble, although it seems to fold fine manually when I dive it, and we see no significant difference between it being just cleaned or not.

Does anyone have pitch and setting recommendations for this prop, which I think is an H6, with the Volvo engine on an SM, or any thoughts and advice? Also, who might we talk to to service the prop? We are currently in St Pete FL, with hopes to solve the power problem and be cruising south in the very near future.
 
Thank you.
Scott and DIane


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Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Turkish marina, Santorin SSB grounding and Santorin holding tank

Herbert Lackner
 

Hi Attilio

I followed your advice and have the Kiss-ssb, too. I planned to connect it to the rudder in addition to the Kiss-ssb but will not do that. 

Herbert
Kali Mera ,SN #120, Sukosan


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Von: Siviero Attilio
Datum:14.02.2014 16:43 (GMT+01:00)
An: Briggs Craig
Betreff: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Turkish marina, Santorin SSB grounding and Santorin holding tank

 

Hi all,


as far as SSB grounding, I used http://www.kiss-ssb.com counterpoise grounding. The prove that it works is that I was able to talk with a guy from Savona (Italy) and a Russian guy while I was on the hard in Messolonghi. And it costs much less than making holes on the hull, that I hate, as all of you Amelians I presume.

My techie put it after the tuner along the ceiling of the stern lazzarette, around the opening: no intrusion, no particular problem, very simple and it works!

Fair winds and 73 de IU3BRO and KD2ECB


Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 13/feb/2014, alle ore 10:20, Herbert Lackner <herbert@...> ha scritto:


Turkish marina:

 

Bill, Samet, Otto,  Rink and Christian, thank you for your answers,  we now decided for Kusadasi and will be there in may.

 

 

SSB grounding on the santorin:

 

There was a thread about the ssb grounding on the amel, I asked if it is possible to connect the ground oft he tuner to the rudder (because there is no grounding plate on our santorin).  In the meantime I found out how it should be (@Attilio, maybe that is interesting for you because you made the rudder connection):

 

There should be no direct connection oft he HF ground to the rudder because this would connect the battery MINUS pole tot he rudder. The minus pole of the tranceiver power in is connected tot he coax shield and then to the tuner ground à and then to the rudder and that is against the amel electric concept (and will cause corrosion on the rudder).  If a connection tot he rudder is made it has to be sperated with a capacitor so that only HF will go through but the DC from the battery is blocked. Recommendation fort hat is 10 small ceramic capacitors with 3900pF (2500V) each, solded together in parallel (will give 39nF(2500 V) with little Skin Effect).  This will prevent electrolytic corrosion and will give a solid SSB ground.  Without the capacitor it is dangerous!

 

 

Santorin holding tank:

 

On our santorin there is no holding tank, sailing in turkey we will need one.  Does anyone have experience what ist he best way to install one (maybe including some pictures / installation scheme)?

@Ian – Ocean Hobo:  As far as I remember Ocean Hobo has a holding tank installed. Maybe you can tell me how it works , installation, experience…,

 

Thanks in advance

 

Herbert

Kali Mera, SN120, Sukosan

 

 

 

 

 




Re: [Amel] Turkish marina, Santorin SSB grounding and Santorin holding tank

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi all,

as far as SSB grounding, I used http://www.kiss-ssb.com counterpoise grounding. The prove that it works is that I was able to talk with a guy from Savona (Italy) and a Russian guy while I was on the hard in Messolonghi. And it costs much less than making holes on the hull, that I hate, as all of you Amelians I presume.

My techie put it after the tuner along the ceiling of the stern lazzarette, around the opening: no intrusion, no particular problem, very simple and it works!

Fair winds and 73 de IU3BRO and KD2ECB


Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 13/feb/2014, alle ore 10:20, Herbert Lackner <herbert@...> ha scritto:


Turkish marina:

 

Bill, Samet, Otto,  Rink and Christian, thank you for your answers,  we now decided for Kusadasi and will be there in may.

 

 

SSB grounding on the santorin:

 

There was a thread about the ssb grounding on the amel, I asked if it is possible to connect the ground oft he tuner to the rudder (because there is no grounding plate on our santorin).  In the meantime I found out how it should be (@Attilio, maybe that is interesting for you because you made the rudder connection):

 

There should be no direct connection oft he HF ground to the rudder because this would connect the battery MINUS pole tot he rudder. The minus pole of the tranceiver power in is connected tot he coax shield and then to the tuner ground à and then to the rudder and that is against the amel electric concept (and will cause corrosion on the rudder).  If a connection tot he rudder is made it has to be sperated with a capacitor so that only HF will go through but the DC from the battery is blocked. Recommendation fort hat is 10 small ceramic capacitors with 3900pF (2500V) each, solded together in parallel (will give 39nF(2500 V) with little Skin Effect).  This will prevent electrolytic corrosion and will give a solid SSB ground.  Without the capacitor it is dangerous!

 

 

Santorin holding tank:

 

On our santorin there is no holding tank, sailing in turkey we will need one.  Does anyone have experience what ist he best way to install one (maybe including some pictures / installation scheme)?

@Ian – Ocean Hobo:  As far as I remember Ocean Hobo has a holding tank installed. Maybe you can tell me how it works , installation, experience…,

 

Thanks in advance

 

Herbert

Kali Mera, SN120, Sukosan

 

 

 

 

 




Seeking Volvo TMD22 and Brunton Autoprop information and advice

Scott
 

Hi. We have a 1997 SM, hull 202, with a Volvo TMD22B and Brunton Autoprop that under load will only reach 2300 RPM at best and suboptimal boat speed. The Volvo readily spins up to higher RPMs in neutral with just a bit of white smoke, "sounds good" and doesn't burn any oil; while under load, we reach 2300 at half throttle and then can go no higher no matter how much more fuel we add. A couple of non-Amel mechanics suggest the Autoprop is the trouble, although it seems to fold fine manually when I dive it, and we see no significant difference between it being just cleaned or not.

Does anyone have pitch and setting recommendations for this prop, which I think is an H6, with the Volvo engine on an SM, or any thoughts and advice? Also, who might we talk to to service the prop? We are currently in St Pete FL, with hopes to solve the power problem and be cruising south in the very near future.
 
Thank you.
Scott and DIane