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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Skype

karkauai
 

Interesting, Trevor. I didn't know you could connect directly to the internet with an iPOD...guess it's another technology that has made my 5 y/o iPOD obsolete. Great idea!
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:05 PM, <seafeverofcuan@...> wrote:

 

Another tried and tested method of cheap communication

is when you open a Skype account,if you have an iPod get a pair of earphones with a mike as per an apple phone, download Skype to the iPod and when you go ashore and hook up to a wifi connection you will get around 45 minutes good quality phone connection.
The iPod in a little water proof bag has the advantages of less likely to attract attention from thieves, easier to carry and I found it to have better sound quality than my PC.
Trevor
Seafever 




SAT-Phone

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 




Hello, I have a Fleetbroadband 150, working very well.
1. I changed my contract to prepaid, because I am only 2-3 months / year on the boat. Otherwise the rates are very high.
2. As the SAT-antenna is fixed, you may always be able to receive incoming calls.Every  automatic life-vest on our boat has a PLB - so I progammed the SAT -phonenumber in each one of them. By this way I hope to get LAT/LON of the PLB by the rescue center. I don´t think this would work with handheld SAT-phones in case of emergency.
3.to avoid unexpected and unwanted use of expensive airtime for data , I blocked updates  by the freeware  UPDATEFREEZER.
4.next time  I will no longer connect  SAT-phone and Laptop via LAN-cable ( I only connect  when look for data ) - I will install  a RedPort Wifi Optimizer ( working like a firewall to the SAT phone) and compress data by  SPEEDMAIL. I hope this will avoid unexpected airtimecosts.
5. For Wifi in the harbour I bought a BULLETM2 Airmax
6. SSB/ BLU  is good for my Ham-radio club, sailmail and keep in contact with other boats out of distance for VHF
 
Fair winds Wolfgang Weber  SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

In the…for what it’s worth category….unless you are going into places that are so remote they don’t have cells, wifi’s or basic phones, or you have a few thousand dollars you want to toss overboard skip the sat phones.  I bought a state of the art Iridium (which is for sale, just email me and we can discuss).  Drove me nuts.   Dropped calls, etc.  Costs a ton just to say goodnight to loved ones.  Buy a personal location device that if you are in real trouble send a signal to thru the US Air force to your loved ones who will confirm that you might be in that location and in trouble.  They will then send out bona fide rescue personnel that may save your life. Not some local sheriff who might dispatch a boat to go look for you after receiving a satellite phone call.  Do spend the additional money and try to operate on local cell phone service.  All over the Caribbean we could connect with an island cell company way out to sea.

 

True story; two years ago I had a ACR spot device that floated and could be worn on one’s belt.  Off Barbuda one night late attempting to board a beached dinghy in big waves somehow I lost the device.  Noticed it was gone once back on board the boat.  The next morning we scouted the coastline beach and ‘no rescue device’.  About 3 months later my contact in the states got a call that I was in trouble.  She said he’s safe back home.  I called the Air Force in Colorado and talked with the representative.  In the discussion the story unfolded.  She told me the device signal that they picked up was 18 NM north of St. Martin.  That was about 75 miles from the coastline of Barbuda.  The device had apparently drifted that far over the many days and then the seal had leaked and set off the alarm.  Had I released the beacon antennal that night I would probably have been picked up by the Antigua coast guard.   NOTE; I had emailed the USAF from Antigua and attempted to notify that my device # was lost and I was safe.  That apparently fell thru a crack of the system.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 

 

You can use Skype for phone calls anytime you have internet access.  The problem, I think, is when you have your satphone on and hooked up to your laptop or touchpad via hardwire or wifi hotspot. That's when it downloads updates using your satphone data. If you are ashore or on the hook and connected to a commercial or free hotspot it's just like using Skype on your home wifi connection. So, yes, you can call with Skype from anywhere in the Caribbean that you can connect to the internet.

Kent


On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:

 

I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?

                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks, Pat SM #123                           

-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 

Another Fleet Broad band user.

FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW

A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.

All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

 

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.



The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

 

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.

For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.

I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.

Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

 

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

 

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.

Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.

At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

 

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

 

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.

The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

 

Fair Winds,

Trevor lusty

Seafever

 

 

 

 


Skype

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Another tried and tested method of cheap communication
is when you open a Skype account,if you have an iPod get a pair of earphones with a mike as per an apple phone, download Skype to the iPod and when you go ashore and hook up to a wifi connection you will get around 45 minutes good quality phone connection.
The iPod in a little water proof bag has the advantages of less likely to attract attention from thieves, easier to carry and I found it to have better sound quality than my PC.
Trevor
Seafever 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi Patrik
We are at Grenada now, and can confirm that you have plenty of WiFi net to connect to.
In Antigua, you can buy access to hothothotspot, in Tobago you have free wifi fromboth Digicell and LIME and you can buy access to Cruisers WiFi. The last one works perfectly in Trinidad and Grenada as well. In Chaguaramas on Trinidad, every marina has wifi for their guests, some are free and some you have to pay for.
Here in Grenada, you have free internet on most marinas and restaurants if you don't want to use Cruisers WiFi. 
One month, with no limitations in use, with Criusers WiFi are 40 USD.

/Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232 at Carriacou

Skickat från min iPad

16 feb 2014 kl. 10:24 skrev "Patrick Mcaneny" <sailw32@...>:

 

I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks, Pat SM #123                           
-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Lior <lior246@...>
 

hi
first thanks all for the great information.
i have the boost wifi for extending the local hotspots and make a local wifi network in the boat.
if i have a local sim with 3G internet, then it is very easy to use every mobile phone or ipad as a wifi router/hotspot. in this way i get a local wifi network thru the 3G.
for off shore sailing i installed ssb and i hope that it will work fine for downloading grib files. the sat phone should be used as a backup and for phone calls when there is no internet connection. i think that i will buy the isatphone. you can get a new one for about 600 $ in ebay and it can be used with pre paid cards. as far as i see in internet you can get everywhere good connection. for downloading grib files it should be possible to put the phone outside (cockpit) and connect it to the computer inside the boat thru bluetooth.
btw. there are many voip provider that offer you similar service like skype.
you can install the app and use your mobile with it every time you have internet connection. the quality is really good.

lior
sharona, amel 54, #18


‫ב-16 בפבר 2014, בשעה 15:42, ‏"Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> כתב/ה:‬

 

Pat,

I think the Skype webpage was simply showing examples of Internet hotspots. Internet hotspots are everywhere today.

We use Skype with any Internet connection...any WiFi, any SIM modem, any direct connection. Skype is software that allows you to use any internet connection to call other Skype-using computers at no charge, or any telephone in the world cheaply.

Skype is free computer to computer, free to 800 numbers dialed and about 2 cents to dial a US number...other countries more.

Bill
BeBe

Bill


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:
 

I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    T hanks, Pat SM #123                           
-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pat,

Go ahead and get Skype now so that you can try it out and get used to it. We have the simplest plan where we prepay with a deposit of $10 and Skype automatically grabs another $10 when our account gets low. 

Skype has many plans, including assigning a phone number to your account with your choice of area code so that people can send you texts, call you, etc.

Bill
BeBe


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:
 

Bill & Kent, Thanks for the info, you answered my questions. I think we will primarily rely on Skype and get a wifi booster. Thanks Again, Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
You can use Skype for phone calls anytime you have internet access.  The problem, I think, is when you have your satphone on and hooked up to your laptop or touchpad via hardwire or wifi hotspot. That's when it downloads updates using your satphone data. If you are ashore or on the hook and connected to a commercial or free hotspot it's just like using Skype on your home wifi connection. So, yes, you can call with Skype from anywhere in the Caribbean that you can connect to the internet.
Kent


On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:

 
I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    T hanks, Pat SM #123                           
-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill & Kent, Thanks for the info, you answered my questions. I think we will primarily rely on Skype and get a wifi booster. Thanks Again, Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
You can use Skype for phone calls anytime you have internet access.  The problem, I think, is when you have your satphone on and hooked up to your laptop or touchpad via hardwire or wifi hotspot. That's when it downloads updates using your satphone data. If you are ashore or on the hook and connected to a commercial or free hotspot it's just like using Skype on your home wifi connection. So, yes, you can call with Skype from anywhere in the Caribbean that you can connect to the internet.
Kent


On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:

 
I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    T hanks, Pat SM #123                           
-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pat,

I think the Skype webpage was simply showing examples of Internet hotspots. Internet hotspots are everywhere today.

We use Skype with any Internet connection...any WiFi, any SIM modem, any direct connection. Skype is software that allows you to use any internet connection to call other Skype-using computers at no charge, or any telephone in the world cheaply.

Skype is free computer to computer, free to 800 numbers dialed and about 2 cents to dial a US number...other countries more.

Bill
BeBe

Bill


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:
 

I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    T hanks, Pat SM #123                           
-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

karkauai
 

You can use Skype for phone calls anytime you have internet access.  The problem, I think, is when you have your satphone on and hooked up to your laptop or touchpad via hardwire or wifi hotspot. That's when it downloads updates using your satphone data. If you are ashore or on the hook and connected to a commercial or free hotspot it's just like using Skype on your home wifi connection. So, yes, you can call with Skype from anywhere in the Caribbean that you can connect to the internet.
Kent


On Feb 16, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Patrick Mcaneny <sailw32@...> wrote:

 

I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks, Pat SM #123                           
-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

karkauai
 

Great info, thanks to all.  Communications options are growing so fast it's hard to keep up.  My old Iridium phone needs to be replaced and the new ones with wifi hotspot sound like the way to go.
I'll get a wifi booster for use when on the hook. I'll contact Bob at IslandTime and look at Blackberry Worldwide, too.
I've used passageweather.com for my grib files when at sea.  Is there something else easier or better that's not too expensive for weather forecasting?  I've also used Chris Parker a few times for weather routing on the way South from the Chesapeake, but seems like passageweather.com is pretty close to what he has recommended.
Thanks again to all for sharing your experience.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Feb 15, 2014, at 2:21 PM, "Mark Erdos" <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

I mounted my antenna to the cross bar on the back stays. Bob said not to mount it too high as it has no view downward. He provides enough cable to put the router at the nav station: http://www.creampuff.us/2013/11/geeky-stuff-part-one/

 

Bob also has 24v routers (with USB ports) and POE devices. If you tell him you want a set up like Cream Puff – he knows me. I also purchased my ships computer from him. Of course, Bill turned me on to him J

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 2:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 

 

Bill and Pat, Did you mount your antenna at the top of the mast?  If not where?  If so, any problem with that installation?
Thanks,
Kent

 

 


From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 

 

Every time I recommend IslandTimePC for wifi, I get a thank you from the person I am making the recommendation to.

 

If you want the best WiFi booster/router and enable all of your devices to connect through a router to wifi, email Bob Stewart at rstewart"at"islandtimepc.com.

 

Bob is an ex-cruiser who builds wifi systems for cruisers and also builds 12 and 24 volt PC computers. He is a good guy, prices are right and you will get something that is truly plug and play because before Bob ships it, he connects it, makes all of the settings and sends you complete understandable directions.

 

When you contact him, ask him about the router that takes a USB dongle...this is something fairly new. You should be able to use the router you get from Bob to deliver via wifi internet to all of your devices onboard...but also when you want deliver internet via a cell phone SIM card USB Dongle to all of your devices. Tell him I told you to ask for this...he will know what you are talking about.

 

Bill

BeBe, 387

 

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Do you have SSB?  That's the cheapest way to communicate, but it can be less than ideal connection.  Iridium phone serves most of my needs when offshore.  Cell phone from US can be more expensive than SatPhone.  Local cell phone okay for local use, but may have to get new contract for each island (country) you visit.  If you can get internet access skype is cheap and excellent connection.  The new SPOT allows you to change message on the fly, but only good for transmitting.

Sooo...I've found that emailing via Iridium is my choice for staying in touch while at sea.  Keep phone calls short and she can satisfy that need to hear a voice.  Try to use Skype when possible and Iridium when you don't have internet access.  If you're going to be at a single island for a month or more it's probably worth getting a local phone for local calls and texting.

I'm going to add a WiFi booster before I head South aga in.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Brunswick GA USA


On Feb 15, 2014, at 9:34 AM, <sailw32@...> wrote:

 

We will be heading to the Caribbean next fall and my wife will want to text our daughters almost daily and speak to them every week or so. I thought I would seek advice from the group as to what is both reliable and affordable. Spot Global, Iridium , Global Star or what else may be available ?

                                                                                                   Thanks ,Pat & Diane

        &nbsp ;                                                                                          SM Shenanigans

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Patrick McAneny
 

I am thinking Skype may be a good way to say in touch. The Skype website they showed their hotspots in the Caribbean , they were limited ,showed no hotspots south of Antiqua . Can someone confirm that one can connect to Skype further south down to Grenada ? Has Skype proved to be a reliable means to communicate back to the states? Has, as Trevor mentioned, the unintentional downloading of updates been a problem ?
                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks, Pat SM #123                           

-----Original Message-----
From: seafeverofcuan
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at se a can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Another Fleet Broad band user.
FACTS YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW
A Skype app. is lethal for downloading updates without you knowing until you get your bill.
All and I mean ALL apps. and programs must be switched off before you connect to the internet otherwise your PC will download every update it can find out there and you have no way of knowing until the bill arrives.

I find it works much better and cleaner with a Mac Book Pro logging on to a dedicated closed email address with Mailasail.co.uk. That way there is no roaming for updates from other internet sites.

The Sat phone charges commence the moment you start to key in a phone number NOT when the call connects.

 Downloading large data files (e.g. manuals, instructions ) while at sea can be a very costly business $1k plus! if the connection drops out - how do I know this?

It works very very well but is prohibitively costly and I always pull the jack plug out of the Mac when not in use.
For weather charting and routing,all sites, it is simply fantastic.
I still haven't sailed into a dead zone and always have had coverage.
Excellent for safety I have used it to relay piracy from The African coast to UK navy in minutes.

In saying all that Blackberry world roaming $100 per year wins every time for solid land based communication at affordable and reliable rates.

Knowing what I know now I would never have installed Fleet as the running costs never came close to what I was lead to believe, it is just too expensive.
Average annual billing using Fleet including some business use $10 to 14k over a three year period.
At least forty per cent of this was data i.e. updates I didn't know about or want.

The most stable PC platform for Fleet has been Windows XP3.

I would choose my hand held Iridium over Fleet simply because you know what the bill is going to be and you can call anytime from your Sat. phone to get the balance.
The Satellite dish is mounted on the port side pushpit rail with a stabilizing bracket and has been a success.

Fair Winds,
Trevor lusty
Seafever





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Halidun Karagoz
 

hi lior,
i'm using inmarsat / thrane&thrane fleet broadband 250. i've used it around the world flawlessly both for voice and data communication. although it is somewhat expensive, i think its worth it, especially if you are to sail to remote places.
cheers,

haldun

s/v amanin
am54 no 164
currently on passage from cabo verde to la palma


On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:53 PM, Lior wrote:
 
hello everybody

you are compering the globalstar with iridium. can anyone give also a feedback about the inmarsat phones? it costs about 1$/min and has a large coverage (that what i heard). does anyone has expirience with inmarsat phones?

thanks
lior



‫ב-15 בפבר 2014, בשעה 16:02, ‏"Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> כתב/ה:‬

 
Pat,
I gave away our GlobalStar equipment because the satellites were too unreliable.  Spot is GlobalStar.  So that leaves Iridium or local cell and/or local wifi.
It has been 6 years since we have been in the Caribbean.  GlobalStar says they have new satellites, but they lied to all their users so much 6 years ago,  I will never trust them.
You also need to remember that, for the most part, all sat phones are designed to be one way calling. The generally are not designed to carry in your pocket or set on a table inside the boat so that your daughters can reach you by text or call.
I would try local wifi/skype and/or local cell. You may have to get new SIMs at each island, but you'll be going ashore anyway. Then if that doesn't work for you, GMPCS in FL can ship you an iridium phone to any island.
What about BlackBerry worldwide service. I would check into that as well.
CW Bill Rouse
sent from my tablet
On Feb 15, 2014 4:34 PM, <sailw32@...> wrote:
 
We will be heading to the Caribbean next fall and my wife will want to text our daughters almost daily and speak to them every week or so. I thought I would seek advice from the group as to what is both reliable and affordable. Spot Global, Iridium , Global Star or what else may be available ?
                                                                                                   Thanks ,Pat & Diane
         &nb sp;                                                                                         SM Shenanigans



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I mounted the antenna on the port aft corner on the rail near the GPS antenna. I have been told that WifI is not line of sight so height is not important.

Bill
BeBe, 387


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Bill and Pat, Did you mount your antenna at the top of the mast?  If not where?  If so, any problem with that installation?
Thanks,
Kent



From: Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:45 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

 
Every time I recommend IslandTimePC for wifi, I get a thank you from the person I am making the recommendation to.

If you want the best WiFi booster/router and enable all of your devices to connect through a router to wifi, email Bob Stewart at rstewart"at"islandtimepc.com.

Bob is an ex-cruiser who builds wifi systems for cruisers and also builds 12 and 24 volt PC computers. He is a good guy, prices are right and you will get something that is truly plug and play because before Bob ships it, he connects it, makes all of the settings and sends you complete understandable directions.

When you contact him, ask him about the router that takes a USB dongle...this is something fairly new. You should be able to use the router you get from Bob to deliver via wifi internet to all of your devices onboard...but also when you want deliver internet via a cell phone SIM card USB Dongle to all of your devices. Tell him I told you to ask for this...he will know what you are talking about.

Bill
BeBe, 387


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 
Do you have SSB?  That's the cheapest way to communicate, but it can be less than ideal connection.  Iridium phone serves most of my needs when offshore.  Cell phone from US can be more expensive than SatPhone.  Local cell phone okay for local use, but may have to get new contract for each island (country) you visit.  If you can get internet access skype is cheap and excellent connection.  The new SPOT allows you to change message on the fly, but only good for transmitting.
Sooo...I've found that emailing via Iridium is my choice for staying in touch while at sea.  Keep phone calls short and she can satisfy that need to hear a voice.  Try to use Skype when possible and Iridium when you don't have internet access.  If you're going to be at a single island for a month or more it's probably worth getting a local phone for local calls and texting.
I'm going to add a WiFi booster before I head South aga in.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA


On Feb 15, 2014, at 9:34 AM, <sailw32@...> wrote:

 
We will be heading to the Caribbean next fall and my wife will want to text our daughters almost daily and speak to them every week or so. I thought I would seek advice from the group as to what is both reliable and affordable. Spot Global, Iridium , Global Star or what else may be available ?
                                                                                                   Thanks ,Pat & Diane
        &nbsp ;                                                                                          SM Shenanigans





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sat phones

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tricolor and Anchor light not working...

karkauai
 

I've had a similar recurrent problem with my tricolor/anchor lite since I bought the boat 5 years ago.  I replaced the old fixture with an LED fixture.  It quit working on the first passage.  I replaced that unit with another one (the company sent me a new one at no charge) which also failed after a month or so.  I switched to another company's LED fixture and ran new wires up the mast which worked for a few months, but it, too, has failed.  I've put a voltage conditioner between the 24 volt panel and the bottom of the mast which keeps the voltage from dropping or spiking. Thank goodness for the nav lights at the bow and stern, since my tricolor hasn't worked but maybe 10% of the time I've owned the boat.  I hope someone else has a solution.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA 


From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:37 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tricolor and Anchor light not working...

 

During my crossing from Kemah, Texas to Key West, Florida, I noted my Tri-color (nav light) stop working.
I didn't know my anchor light also stop working.

Today, I climb the mast (first time for me) changed it (for one I tried in the Lazarette and was working) and... still not working.
So I wonder if the SM2K had a cable which is known to get disconnected somewhere...

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Brown's Marina, Binini, Bahamas



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tricolor and Anchor light not working...

karkauai
 

I've had a similar recurrent problem with my tricolor/anchor lite since I bought the boat 5 years ago.  I replaced the old fixture with an LED fixture.  It quit working on the first passage.  I replaced that unit with another one (the company sent me a new one at no charge) which also failed after a month or so.  I switched to another company's LED fixture and ran new wires up the mast which worked for a few months, but it, too, has failed.  I've put a voltage conditioner between the 24 volt panel and the bottom of the mast which keeps the voltage from dropping or spiking. Thank goodness for the nav lights at the bow and stern, since my tricolor hasn't worked but maybe 10% of the time I've owned the boat.  I hope someone else has a solution.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA 


From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:37 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tricolor and Anchor light not working...

 

During my crossing from Kemah, Texas to Key West, Florida, I noted my Tri-color (nav light) stop working.
I didn't know my anchor light also stop working.

Today, I climb the mast (first time for me) changed it (for one I tried in the Lazarette and was working) and... still not working.
So I wonder if the SM2K had a cable which is known to get disconnected somewhere...

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Brown's Marina, Binini, Bahamas



Tricolor and Anchor light not working...

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

During my crossing from Kemah, Texas to Key West, Florida, I noted my Tri-color (nav light) stop working.
I didn't know my anchor light also stop working.

Today, I climb the mast (first time for me) changed it (for one I tried in the Lazarette and was working) and... still not working.
So I wonder if the SM2K had a cable which is known to get disconnected somewhere...

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Brown's Marina, Binini, Bahamas