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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Armin,

Are you referring to the white insert that is installed in the rub rail, or a crack somewhere else?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of n4796p@...
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

 

 

Hi Eric,
it is difficult to explain. The SM has on both sides a brown baseboard or fender list (in german: Scheuerleiste) with a rubber at the inner side. The baseboard and the rubber ends at the top of the stern, left and right. At this point normally is the feet of the ssb-antenna fixed on starboard. This means at the stern at the upper edges left and right, there are the cracks.
I hope it is comprehensible now.
Armin


DESSALATOR 60

agennai@...
 

I'm preparing for a long trip and I'm concerned about the dessalator: there are  3 pumps (HP, LP and wash P)  10 yrs old (GRAND CRU is a supermaramu 2k red line 2004 #443) . 
have anyone  changed them?
could anyone suggest me which spare parts is it worth to have?
thanks
alessandro
GRAND CRU
supermaramu 2k  2004 #443
miami beach


Re: Maramu main furler stripped gear

Family <gegcarter@...>
 

Has anyone any experience and / or drawings for the genoa furler on the Super Maramu 2000?  Mine ceased to function yesterday and I suspect it to be the bronze cogged wheel having stripped. 

Any advice would be much appreciated. 

Kind regards

Keith
Guma - SM 261 at Almerimar, Andalucia, Spain. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spare parts for Volvo D3 and Onan

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Lior
best way to get the right answer, go to Volvo and Onan (Northern Light) and ask them for a small spare part kit or the big spare part kit, they have them both. I have a big spare part kit on my SM #16 :-)
fair winds
Hanspeter

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 22.02.2014 um 16:56 schrieb lior 555 <lior246@...>:

 

Dear all

Next May we are going to live on our Amel 54 and sail for longer time. It is difficult to decide what spare part I should/must always have on the boat. This is for sure very important issue and I know that there are never enough spare parts on the boat.
The biggest concern for me is the engine and the generator. I dont want to get stuck somewhere without engine...
Maybe you can write your experience. Now I would have time to buy it.

What spare part must be for the Volvo D3-110 and the Onan 11 KW on the boat?

Thanks a lot for your comments

Lior



 


Spare parts for Volvo D3 and Onan

lior 555 <lior246@...>
 

Dear all

Next May we are going to live on our Amel 54 and sail for longer time. It is difficult to decide what spare part I should/must always have on the boat. This is for sure very important issue and I know that there are never enough spare parts on the boat.
The biggest concern for me is the engine and the generator. I dont want to get stuck somewhere without engine...
Maybe you can write your experience. Now I would have time to buy it.

What spare part must be for the Volvo D3-110 and the Onan 11 KW on the boat?

Thanks a lot for your comments

Lior



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

amelforme
 

I brought this to my colleagues at Amel’s attention years ago and asked why this happens. I was told that the cracks in the brown gel coat at the end of the side/rub rail ( and also eventually at the very front as well ) was because the gel coat is about three times as thick there as what the gel coat makers recommend. In other words, the gel coat was used as a ‘filler’ in this area where a proprietary  polyester or epoxy filler specifically designed for this application would have been more appropriate with a correct thickness gel coat color match applied over it. The gel coat on the faux teak decks is also a little too thick and, in conjunction with it being a dark color like brown, which absorbs more UV from the sun ( and then also heats up to a higher temperature than lighter colors ), tends to spider web crack over the years and in the case of older boats from the late 60’s and 70’s, oftentimes actually starts to come off the actual fiberglass laminate in large pieces. A good UV inhibitor, like 303 sold in North America, forestalls the deterioration process greatly.

 

Another problem area I have seen during the marine survey/expert maritime process on the scores of Super Maramu’s and Amel 54’s I have resold is the area directly adjacent to where the attachments for the backstays for the mizzen mast penetrate the transom. The cause of this is the fact that the transom is actually a separate laminated component that is installed/laminated to the aft end of the hull after the boat comes out of the tooling/mold. The transom itself is not as ‘fixed in position’ or quite as strong as it would be if it were and integral part of the hull laminate, and the natural shifting/movement of this transom as the hull is loaded and unloaded torsionally by the action of wind, waves and the backstays tensioning this specific area often cause cracks to form in the gel coat surrounding the mizzen backstay attachments. Don’t concern yourselves with this too much as in every case we investigated by removing the gel coat for a close look at the actual laminations, the cracking/crazing was confined to the gel coat and not into the laminate itself. If you are familiar with fiberglass and know what to look for, you can wait until dark and then place your illuminated high candle power search lamp very close to the outside of this area, while you examine the now illuminated layers of fiberglass from within the stern locker. Broken fiberglass looks just the what you might imagine it would while structurally sound fiberglass also looks like you would think, mainly continuous and without distortions/breakage. DON’T hold the search lamp too close to the gel coat for too long or the cracks will be the least of your concerns!

 

All the best,

Joel

 

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for North America

Mailing Address:  401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida  33301

Phone:  (954) 462-5869   Cell:  (954) 812-2485

Email:  jfpottercys@...

www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of n4796p@...
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

 

 

Hi Eric,
it is difficult to explain. The SM has on both sides a brown baseboard or fender list (in german: Scheuerleiste) with a rubber at the inner side. The baseboard and the rubber ends at the top of the stern, left and right. At this point normally is the feet of the ssb-antenna fixed on starboard. This means at the stern at the upper edges left and right, there are the cracks.
I hope it is comprehensible now.
Armin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

n4796p@...
 

Hi Eric,
it is difficult to explain. The SM has on both sides a brown baseboard or fender list (in german: Scheuerleiste) with a rubber at the inner side. The baseboard and the rubber ends at the top of the stern, left and right. At this point normally is the feet of the ssb-antenna fixed on starboard. This means at the stern at the upper edges left and right, there are the cracks.
I hope it is comprehensible now.
Armin


Re: [Valiant-sailboats] Harry Thompson

Harry Thompson <harryt1952@...>
 

Sorry everybody, I've been hacked.
Harry Thompson



On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:01 AM, "Harry Thompson" <harryt1952@...> wrote:

 


Re: Swim Ladder

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Terry,

 

The swim platform  was installed by the previous owner somewhere in Europe (probably south of France, or Turkey).  No plans on board that I know of.  It was originally "permanently" installed professionally and then at the owner's request reinstalled to be easily removable.

 

I will be visiting Brava in early March and could take more detailed pictures if you like.

 

Derick

SM2K Brava, #400

Currently at Sapphire Beach Marina

St. Thomas, USVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

Eric Freedman
 

You mentioned baseboard do you mean backstay?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of n4796p@...
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] small crack at the stern at the end of

 

 

Hi all,
I have a question to the group regarding a frequently seen in the SM2k defect. Every second or third SM I have seen shows at the rear, just behind the end of the baseboard a crack in the gelcoat. It seems as if there is the boat's structure slightly soft and fractures occur in the less flexible gelcoat by movement in the GfK.
Is this correlated with the tension of the backstay? On our boat the backstays were relatively loose in contrast to the other rig when we bought the boat. I have now seen on a different SM2k that the backstays were much stronger than ours. This boat had no cracks at the described location.
On the other hand, it could also be, independent of the tension of the backstays, correlated to prolonged exposure, eg atlantic crossing, and the structure gets softer on this?
Does anybody has any information about this? Does anybody know how one can make this regieon more stiffer without just transfering the problem to an other place.
Best regards
Armin
SY ASHIA, SM2k, #357


Re: small crack at the stern at the end of

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Armin,

 

Do you have a picture of this crack?  I am not exactly sure of the location to which you refer.

 

Derick

SM2K Brava, #400


Re: Looking for a Sharki or older Maramu / Santorin

ericmeury@...
 

I can assure you that you won't find any amels this side of the pond for  under a 100k.  You may be able to find a Euros for that price, but i don't think there are many around. 

I did find this on escape artists

http://yachtbroker.escapeartist.com/boats/action/view/boat/2476/index.html

If you happen to find one in Trinidad at Peakes yacht service stay far far away,  It can be bought for next to nothing but the repairs were never right.  It was in a hurricane and had sky lights where the deck to hull met.  I bet you would easily spend more than 100 to make it close to right and never make ti right.

Your best bet is to find a well care for amel pay a fair price rather than looking for a bargin.  You either pay coming or going but you always pay.


small crack at the stern at the end of

n4796p@...
 

Hi all,
I have a question to the group regarding a frequently seen in the SM2k defect. Every second or third SM I have seen shows at the rear, just behind the end of the baseboard a crack in the gelcoat. It seems as if there is the boat's structure slightly soft and fractures occur in the less flexible gelcoat by movement in the GfK.
Is this correlated with the tension of the backstay? On our boat the backstays were relatively loose in contrast to the other rig when we bought the boat. I have now seen on a different SM2k that the backstays were much stronger than ours. This boat had no cracks at the described location.
On the other hand, it could also be, independent of the tension of the backstays, correlated to prolonged exposure, eg atlantic crossing, and the structure gets softer on this?
Does anybody has any information about this? Does anybody know how one can make this regieon more stiffer without just transfering the problem to an other place.
Best regards
Armin
SY ASHIA, SM2k, #357


Re: Swim Ladder

islandbwoy4434
 

Thank you Derick. Where was this built? Are the drawings or more detail on how this was constructed?
Terry.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swim Ladder

islandbwoy4434
 

Thank you Mark.


Re: Swim Ladder

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

All-

 

FYI, I was able to load a .pdf copy of the picture of the stern swim platform and folding SS ladder into the files section.  Picture was taken when Brava was named Ulys of Tortola.

 

Derick Gates

Brava SM2K #400

Currently at Sapphire Beach Marina

St. Thomas, USVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Maramu main furler stripped gear

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Thanks Dennis.  I rebuilt my gear box and have the bearing and seal info.  I just didn"t think about getting a spare at the time.  Thanks again for getting back to me.

Bob


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Svcheevhako <svcheechako@...> wrote:
 

Hello bob

I was unable to find a spare gear for my maramu so I had a spare shaft and gear built. Fortunately I have not yet needed it  

I have over the years replaced the bearings on my furlers and while not a easy job it is not too bad and bearings and seals are available. 

I have drawings and part numbers for the mechanism but do not have the information for the gear and shaft. 

Let me know and I will get you what I have

S/y. Different drummer

Dennis stuller



On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...> wrote:

 

I also was not able to find it on or around August 12-13.  

It is the bronze gear at the bottom of the main sail furling tube that connects with the shaft coming from the motor.  This is not for the boom out haul but rather for the mast furler.  I haven't figured out yet what caused the teeth to strip out but hopefully it's not a bearing on the top of the mast.

If anyone has had this prpblem, please let me know what you did to solve it.

Thanks, Bob
SV Chara


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:47 AM, <sangaris@...> wrote:
 

Trevor,

I didn't find anything on this subject from Aug 12 or 13 of last year.  Do you have a message number by chance or another way to find it?
Bob,
Is it the reduction gear with which you are having trouble - if so, check message 12899.
Regards,
Craig - Sangaris SN#68




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Maramu main furler stripped gear

Svcheevhako <svcheechako@...>
 

Hello bob

It was a job but it is possible to rebuild the furling system without stepping the mast. The only part which is inaccessible is the swivel

Different drummer


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Maramu main furler stripped gear

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Sorry Bob,
              I now understand what you mean and as I dismantled that gear last year  I can see why you are bewildered.
You would think that it could only strip if there had bee too much pressure when furling the main.
If it's any help the mast head bearing is part of the mainsail foil and can not be extracted unless the mast is stepped.
Trevor
Seafever
SM425
Ireland



Forstay profile swirvel SM

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Does any one know the brand of the swirvel on the forstay profile?

Anyone with a suggestion for the simplest way to dismount it from the profile?

Regards
Jonas and Annsofie
SM #232, Lady Annila in Grenada

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