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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table

karkauai
 

Thanks, Ann-Sophie, that makes it clear.
Kent

From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table
 
The U-bolt is to attach your lifeline, we have one next the the wheel as well.

You can turn the table around the pole that is attached to the rope-container (first arm), and you can swing the table around the arm that is attached to the first arm. You can not fold it, you just lift table and second arm from the first arm and stowe it away. You can remove the first arm as well if you like. If you follow the URL in y first mail, you will find the components and will understand how it works.

Oh, If I could attach pictures to the mail it would have been so much easier. But I have posted some more pictures that might enlight you. 

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila SM 232
Skickat från min iPad
3 mar 2014 kl. 17:19 skrev "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...>:
 
Hi, Ann-Sophie,
I'm unclear as to the mounting bracket.  Is it attached to the middle of the table so that it rotates?  Can it be locked in any position?  Can it be folded down out of the way, or must it be removed and stowed?
 
On another note, what is the U-bolt for that is attached to the line holder by the table bracket?
 
I'm also looking for some different arrangement for the cockpit table, anyone else have other ideas?
Steady as she goes.
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
 

From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table
 
We have mounted a Lagun table on the outside front of the rope-container below the mizzen mast. We choosed the large table and it works perfekt. It is always up. 

You can see it on http://www.noa.se/ and choose english as language. Belive that you can buy it in USA as well.

I posted some pictures in the album Cockpit table, Extra. And you can see it in use, just finnished brakefast......

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila, SM232

Skickat från min iPad
2 mar 2014 kl. 22:52 skrev terencesingh@...:
 
We are looking for more details on how the cockpit table on the Super Maramu 2000 that is mounted to the rear of the captains chair is constructed. The standard cockpit table that came with our SM (1997)  is too large for every day use and we are looking for an alternative.

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena
SV Libby # 196
San Diego


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Hi Kent & Ann-Sophie
We have this table and just love it. It is compact and stows away in a nice neat package. We mount it on the locker side on the permanent mounting bracket that takes up so little room and the engine room cover can be raised. Takes about 1 minute to mount the table to this bracket. We put it on the side as we removed the helm seat supplied by Amel and installed a seat similar to a STIDD seat. Everyone loves this arrangement who sails with us.
Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362
Currently in St Marteen
 

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: karkauai@...
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:19:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table

 
Hi, Ann-Sophie,
I'm unclear as to the mounting bracket.  Is it attached to the middle of the table so that it rotates?  Can it be locked in any position?  Can it be folded down out of the way, or must it be removed and stowed?
 
On another note, what is the U-bolt for that is attached to the line holder by the table bracket?
 
I'm also looking for some different arrangement for the cockpit table, anyone else have other ideas?
Steady as she goes.
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
 

From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table
 
We have mounted a Lagun table on the outside front of the rope-container below the mizzen mast. We choosed the large table and it works perfekt. It is always up. 

You can see it on http://www.noa.se/ and choose english as language. Belive that you can buy it in USA as well.

I posted some pictures in the album Cockpit table, Extra. And you can see it in use, just finnished brakefast......

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila, SM232

Skickat från min iPad
2 mar 2014 kl. 22:52 skrev terencesingh@...:
 
We are looking for more details on how the cockpit table on the Super Maramu 2000 that is mounted to the rear of the captains chair is constructed. The standard cockpit table that came with our SM (1997)  is too large for every day use and we are looking for an alternative.

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena
SV Libby # 196
San Diego



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

The U-bolt is to attach your lifeline, we have one next the the wheel as well.

You can turn the table around the pole that is attached to the rope-container (first arm), and you can swing the table around the arm that is attached to the first arm. You can not fold it, you just lift table and second arm from the first arm and stowe it away. You can remove the first arm as well if you like. If you follow the URL in y first mail, you will find the components and will understand how it works.

Oh, If I could attach pictures to the mail it would have been so much easier. But I have posted some more pictures that might enlight you. 

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila SM 232

Skickat från min iPad

3 mar 2014 kl. 17:19 skrev "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...>:

 

Hi, Ann-Sophie,
I'm unclear as to the mounting bracket.  Is it attached to the middle of the table so that it rotates?  Can it be locked in any position?  Can it be folded down out of the way, or must it be removed and stowed?
 
On another note, what is the U-bolt for that is attached to the line holder by the table bracket?
 
I'm also looking for some different arrangement for the cockpit table, anyone else have other ideas?
Steady as she goes.
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
 

From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table
 
We have mounted a Lagun table on the outside front of the rope-container below the mizzen mast. We choosed the large table and it works perfekt. It is always up. 

You can see it on http://www.noa.se/ and choose english as language. Belive that you can buy it in USA as well.

I posted some pictures in the album Cockpit table, Extra. And you can see it in use, just finnished brakefast......

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila, SM232

Skickat från min iPad
2 mar 2014 kl. 22:52 skrev terencesingh@...:
 
We are looking for more details on how the cockpit table on the Super Maramu 2000 that is mounted to the rear of the captains chair is constructed. The standard cockpit table that came with our SM (1997)  is too large for every day use and we are looking for an alternative.

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena
SV Libby # 196
San Diego


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table

karkauai
 

Hi, Ann-Sophie,
I'm unclear as to the mounting bracket.  Is it attached to the middle of the table so that it rotates?  Can it be locked in any position?  Can it be folded down out of the way, or must it be removed and stowed?
 
On another note, what is the U-bolt for that is attached to the line holder by the table bracket?
 
I'm also looking for some different arrangement for the cockpit table, anyone else have other ideas?
Steady as she goes.
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
 

From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table
 
We have mounted a Lagun table on the outside front of the rope-container below the mizzen mast. We choosed the large table and it works perfekt. It is always up. 

You can see it on http://www.noa.se/ and choose english as language. Belive that you can buy it in USA as well.

I posted some pictures in the album Cockpit table, Extra. And you can see it in use, just finnished brakefast......

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila, SM232

Skickat från min iPad
2 mar 2014 kl. 22:52 skrev terencesingh@...:
 
We are looking for more details on how the cockpit table on the Super Maramu 2000 that is mounted to the rear of the captains chair is constructed. The standard cockpit table that came with our SM (1997)  is too large for every day use and we are looking for an alternative.

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena
SV Libby # 196
San Diego


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit Table

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We have mounted a Lagun table on the outside front of the rope-container below the mizzen mast. We choosed the large table and it works perfekt. It is always up. 

You can see it on www.noa.se and choose english as language. Belive that you can buy it in USA as well.

I posted some pictures in the album Cockpit table, Extra. And you can see it in use, just finnished brakefast......

/Annsofie
SY Lady Annila, SM232


Skickat från min iPad

2 mar 2014 kl. 22:52 skrev terencesingh@...:

 

We are looking for more details on how the cockpit table on the Super Maramu 2000 that is mounted to the rear of the captains chair is constructed. The standard cockpit table that came with our SM (1997)  is too large for every day use and we are looking for an alternative.


Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena
SV Libby # 196
San Diego


Cockpit Table

islandbwoy4434
 

We are looking for more details on how the cockpit table on the Super Maramu 2000 that is mounted to the rear of the captains chair is constructed. The standard cockpit table that came with our SM (1997)  is too large for every day use and we are looking for an alternative.

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena
SV Libby # 196
San Diego


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent, not sure I would say they are prone to malfunction, rather that they need periodic maintenance.  On mine one blade had more pitting on the thrust bearing surface, less on another and none on the third. There was no vibration. They seemed to spin smoothly and freely and had I not listened carefully I may not have heard the rumble I have read on another forum that the bearings should be replaced every 1000 motoring hours. Bruntons give a good service in providing the spare kits and giving detailed instructions in how to undertake what I found to be a straightforward replacement.
You may well have had an oversize prop. Mine was 480mm swept area, others are 560mm. I believe the 560 should be for the 100 hp but that is only an assumption. The blade area on my fixed prop is much greater than the auto prop and when it was on my revs did not improve.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

From: Kent Robertson
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop
 
Hmmmm. That's very informative Danny.  Back when I had the TMD22 the blades seemed to spin freely on the hub so I assumed it was OK.  
There was never any vibration from the prop either.  It didn't seem logical that all 3 blades would malfunction at the same rate, and that an asymmetric malfunction would cause the prop to vibrate.
It sounds like that line of thinking is wrong and that one of the first things to be done is service the prop.  In my case I put the spare prop on and still didn't get the rpms up.  Servicing the prop was one thing I didn't do.  I doubt it has ever been done on my Autoprop.
It's too bad that these  props are so prone to malfunction.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

 
On Mar 2, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
 
Hi all,
A while ago I had a low rev situation develop quite suddenly. I removed and cleaned the turbo to no effect. I carefully cleaned the prop, also to no effect. (actually it was pretty clean anyway) I greased it, also to no effect. (it had been greased six months before) On checking I found some roughness in the auto prop bearings and did a full replacement of bearings and seals. I put the serviced auto prop back on today and am pleased to report that the rev problem appears to be solved. From this it would seem that periodic replacement of the bearings in the auto prop is necessary. It would be 4 years since my last service.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand  


Re: Hull Numbering System

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

Post your HIN and I can tell you the whole story.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Danny,

If my memory is correct, Bruntons recommends that AutoProp have a bearing kit installed every 1200 miles.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k 387


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Hmmmm. That's very informative Danny.  Back when I had the TMD22 the blades seemed to spin freely on the hub so I assumed it was OK.  
There was never any vibration from the prop either.  It didn't seem logical that all 3 blades would malfunction at the same rate, and that an asymmetric malfunction would cause the prop to vibrate.
It sounds like that line of thinking is wrong and that one of the first things to be done is service the prop.  In my case I put the spare prop on and still didn't get the rpms up.  Servicing the prop was one thing I didn't do.  I doubt it has ever been done on my Autoprop.
It's too bad that these  props are so prone to malfunction.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

 


On Mar 2, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
A while ago I had a low rev situation develop quite suddenly. I removed and cleaned the turbo to no effect. I carefully cleaned the prop, also to no effect. (actually it was pretty clean anyway) I greased it, also to no effect. (it had been greased six months before) On checking I found some roughness in the auto prop bearings and did a full replacement of bearings and seals. I put the serviced auto prop back on today and am pleased to report that the rev problem appears to be solved. From this it would seem that periodic replacement of the bearings in the auto prop is necessary. It would be 4 years since my last service.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand  



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop

karkauai
 

Hmmmm. That's very informative Danny.  Back when I had the TMD22 the blades seemed to spin freely on the hub so I assumed it was OK.  
There was never any vibration from the prop either.  It didn't seem logical that all 3 blades would malfunction at the same rate, and that an asymmetric malfunction would cause the prop to vibrate.
It sounds like that line of thinking is wrong and that one of the first things to be done is service the prop.  In my case I put the spare prop on and still didn't get the rpms up.  Servicing the prop was one thing I didn't do.  I doubt it has ever been done on my Autoprop.
It's too bad that these  props are so prone to malfunction.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

 


On Mar 2, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,
A while ago I had a low rev situation develop quite suddenly. I removed and cleaned the turbo to no effect. I carefully cleaned the prop, also to no effect. (actually it was pretty clean anyway) I greased it, also to no effect. (it had been greased six months before) On checking I found some roughness in the auto prop bearings and did a full replacement of bearings and seals. I put the serviced auto prop back on today and am pleased to report that the rev problem appears to be solved. From this it would seem that periodic replacement of the bearings in the auto prop is necessary. It would be 4 years since my last service.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill,
I do around 2 to 300 hours a year so 800 to 1200 hours. There is a lip seal outside the bearings. When I do my regular greasing and push the old grease out with the new it has no obvious water in it. A post I did a few days ago listed all the parts.
If you look back on my previous posts you will see that under water I spun the blades by hand and although they seemed to move smoothly there was a light rumble. Being under water the sound was easier to hear. Only some thrust bearing surfaces were pitted, and not excessively. All the balls were fine.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl   

From: "yahoogroups@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop
 
Hi Danny,

Thanks for the information.

Do you happen to know how many engine hours since the bearing replacement...and does your model autoprop have sealed bearings, or are they open to sea water?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, #387


Re: Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop

yahoogroups@...
 

Hi Danny,

Thanks for the information.

Do you happen to know how many engine hours since the bearing replacement...and does your model autoprop have sealed bearings, or are they open to sea water?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, #387


Low revs/Volvo TMD22 /auto prop

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,
A while ago I had a low rev situation develop quite suddenly. I removed and cleaned the turbo to no effect. I carefully cleaned the prop, also to no effect. (actually it was pretty clean anyway) I greased it, also to no effect. (it had been greased six months before) On checking I found some roughness in the auto prop bearings and did a full replacement of bearings and seals. I put the serviced auto prop back on today and am pleased to report that the rev problem appears to be solved. From this it would seem that periodic replacement of the bearings in the auto prop is necessary. It would be 4 years since my last service.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand  


(No subject)

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 


Chain Plates

Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
 

I just had an insurance survey for our Mango. He noticed some rust bleeding out from behind the chain plates where the main shroud bracket and lifting brackets are attached.
He diddn't know if it was coming from  the bolts or if there is a metal plate inside the rail where the bolts bolt to. Does anyone know if there is a metal plate and what type it is, perhaps Joel Potter as you saw the construction of these great boats in the yard. Or has some one had this problem before and knows how to fix it.  

Conn Williamson
SV Jasmyn 
Amel Mango #28
Bluewater Marina Cairns


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Heavy Weather Foresail

Eric Freedman
 

I  Have the exact same sail from super sails if anyone is interested. It was used for one passage back and forth to the Caribbean.

Fair Winds

Eric

Please PM me at Kimberlite@... if interested.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Heavy Weather Foresail

 

 

Heil we have used super sail in Florida for our heavy weather headsail. It's an 11 ounce hundred and 10% high clue sail. It's used in the Caribbean and areas where we feel the wind will exceed 25 kn. we are able to reset it and use it as I had sale for close when would work or to hov two when the winds and seas require us to stop the boat. In addition to iPhone what it is imperative to have a high clue so the waves may pass under the sail. 
Regards SM 209 in Newport. 

Capt Richard

 

Cell 603 767 5330


On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:49, Bob Fritz <sailboatdelivery@...> wrote:

 

As a headsail is reefed by rolling it on the foil, it will develop a bulge or bag in the center portion of the sail. The more that it is reefed, the larger will be the bag destroying the sail shape. This can be problematic if trying to go upwind or even close reaching. To alleviate this problem a piece of foam or other material is sewn into the sail just behind the luff beginning about a third of the way up from the tack of the sail and ending about a third of the way down from the head. (I'm guessing at those dimensions.) This eliminates the baggy portion that occurs during the initial reefing. In my experience this means that you can reef down at least one sail size while maintaining decent sail shape. For example, a 150% sail can be reefed to 135% or maybe 125%. Beyond that the bag reappears. I would never have a cruising foresail built without the foam luff, but that is my personal preference. For me it is well worth the extra money.

Bob


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Heavy Weather Foresail

Dave_Benjamin
 

A foam luff simply takes out some of the excess material and gives you a better shape. In the early days of furling sailors would throw towels into the genoa. It's important to note that there are two different styles of foam luff. One is multiple strips which is a bit more labor intensive and the other is a single piece. Our experience is the multiple strips work better over the long haul. It's also possible to use pieces of rope but they can retain moisture and cause mildew. 

Furling genoas should not be reefed constantly. If you have to reef 80% of the time, the sail is too large. Frequent reefing shortens the life of the sail and has a detrimental impact on shape. 


Re: Heavy Weather Foresail

Alan Leslie
 

I'm glad I have an inner forestay with a staysail....big genoas even with rope or foam luffs have a bad shape when furled......they look ok from the cockpit, but if you look at them from in front of the boat, (ie on another boat looking back) they always look terrible.

Another problem is the tremendous strain that is put on the leech and the foot when furled going to windward with tight sheets, that strain can destroy your leech shape in time.

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437