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Outhaul
minaxi53 <no_reply@...>
I have recently replaced the line that runs on the main boom outhaul.
With a good stiff wind the car was running back toward the mast a few inches every gust. It took a while to realize that my new line was already wearing and slipping through the sheeve. I used 3/8" low stretch braided line. Is this the correct size? Has anyone had similar problems? Regards Bob Minaxi SM6
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stained Sails
Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@...>
Hi Mike,
We got all the way home by 6:00 P.M. last night (Suday), having left Annapolis by 6:45 A.M. Neither of my computers seems to be working this morning, so I'm in the public library dealing with 197 e-mails! I have not yet opened yor message containing the survey results. However, with respect to these two questions: 1) "Drifter" is definitely a SM 2000. It is printed in large letters on the either side of the aft part of the hull. I don't know when they eliminated the thru-hull fittings for the heads. 2) I really think you need completely new sails for the geneoa, main and mizzen. The old ones are serviceable but -- as you observed -- they don't look as good as they should. Later today, I'll try to get some quotes on a new set. I did call my friends in Ft. Lauderdale, who I thought had bought sails from a loft in Hong Kong. However, they said they had bought only a jenny and that was through Doyle Sails in Ft. L. They thought the price was slightly less than $2900. However, that was two years ago. Anyhow, I want everything to be as satisfactory as possible and I'm willing to make a price concession for new sails. More, as soon as I've read the survey rept. Greatly enjoyed meeting your and Tom's wife; also, Ted, who seems like an extremely superior young man. Best, Randy --- mike ondra <mondra@ptd.net> wrote: We are in the process of purchasing a 1999 SM, hull __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Stained Sails
mike ondra <mondra@...>
We are in the process of purchasing a 1999 SM, hull #240. The seller
believes it to be an SM2000, yet it has through hulls for each of the heads. We were under the impression that the 2000 went to a single through hull for seawater intake. Does anyone know at which hull # the shift to the 2000 was made? What other changes were implemented between the SM and the SM2000? (Perhaps there is a website that identifies the changes) Also, the sails show a lot of mildew/mold staining. Other boats I have owned, with flaked sails when not it use, have not had this problem at 10 or 15 years old. It would seem logical that tight in-mast furling could retain significantly more moisture than a flaked sail and support more life forms. Have others experienced similar problems on relatively new sails with in-mast furling? Interestingly the problem is just as severe with the genoa, which rolls up no differently than any other furling jib I have owned without experiencing the problem. Mike
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price?
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
I think its 660,000 euros plus VAT where applicable. Add another 100,000 for extras.Next launch date probably July 2007. 30 pa being built.Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen
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Amel 54 price
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
650,000 euros plus 18.5% VATax equals 770,250 euros.
Regards, Anne and John
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Re: Noisy outhaul drive on main boom
koenvelleman <no_reply@...>
The problem is the main shaft of the gear box, wich is of mild steel.
This shaft rust and the water sips in the gear box. I had good results with high quality sea water resisting grease (locktite has a good one), but at the end I choose to replace the shaft with a stainless one, no more problems since then. (any good machine shop can copy the shaft) Koen Flash V --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote: Roy,shaft on top of the winch, and pound away with a sledge. You might bend abolt or two as s/s is a little soft for hammering. Make sure you have a longbolt for this hammering.wrote: hammer. AGraham,hole in the regularsandedhammer or mallet will not work. The shaft came loose and I the rustinsteadoff of it and replaced it with a thick film of white lube.When you hit the bolt with the sledge hammer, which shaft came of dropping the gearbox, you raised the winch. Is this right?I'm about to try it, and would appreciate as much detail as you canworks quiteyouwell. I tried to remove the gear box yesterday using a puller - undo thethatbolt underneath the gear box connected to the vertical shaft attachespuller.directly to the rope drum and then you "pull the gear box down".Amel toldme that it would probably be very stiff and that most likely Iwould have toremove the boom and take it to a work shop with a hydraulic ItAmelappears that they are right! For your information it is thehorizontalspindle that connects to the motor that has failed on my boat. weren'tona bit surprised at this as my boat is 10 yrs old and depending mileageIgear boxes regularly fail at 5 yrs. Let me know how you get on, will betheusing a manual outhaul now until the boat comes ashore for thewinter, evenmain boom. It is coming from the gearbox area, as it is there butwhen the rope is removed. I have tried lubricating the gearbox, t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=would prefer to remove it from the boom to do this thoroughly.new Yahoo! Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q>t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w>t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailingsubject=Unsubscribe>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price?
jlcmcg <JLC@...>
Present base price is 771 000 euros (Sail Fair at LaRochelle last
week), a beautiful boat. Jerome (SM N°432) - In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Shann, Mark V" <shannmv@b...> wrote: Italian sailing magazine quotes basic cost of Amel 54 at 650,000euros. Associated article was posted on this website about 1 month ago,hope usefulRandall Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:37 PMlist. I don't own an Amel but am scheming and plotting to change that.I'm a 53yr old retired fairly poor Brit, married to a Californian ladywho has decided she likes sailing. (We bought a house on a canal down inFlorida and a little Hunter 30 to try her out). I have been sailing sinceteens. to selling up and living aboard for my last few active years. I'm justseen the 54 which looks rather tasty in the video,list already.funds are in USD, but I'm curious.~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! yourhome page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM~->
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price?
Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
Italian sailing magazine quotes basic cost of Amel 54 at 650,000 euros.
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Associated article was posted on this website about 1 month ago, hope useful Mark (maramu Synnefoula)
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Randall Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:37 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price? Hi, Firstly I guess I'd better give a little intro as I'm new to this list. I don't own an Amel but am scheming and plotting to change that. I'm a 53yr old retired fairly poor Brit, married to a Californian lady who has decided she likes sailing. (We bought a house on a canal down in Florida and a little Hunter 30 to try her out). I have been sailing since teens. I have been admiring SMs from afar for the last 2 years with a view to selling up and living aboard for my last few active years. I'm just about to start looking seriously for a used SM and have of course seen the 54 which looks rather tasty in the video, How much is it / will it be? Any ideas how fast they build them? I saw reference to a waiting list already. Probably completely out of my budget, especially as most of my funds are in USD, but I'm curious. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links I think before I S.E.N.D eMail - do you? Visit the eMailAdvantage site on the BP Intranet http://emailadvantage.bpweb.bp.com
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What do you liveaboards carry in the way of insurance?
Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
Depends entirely on where you live or sail as well as the value of the
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yacht. Recently was quoted a premium of just over $6,000 per year for only 500k coverage in Caribbean (requirement of NOT being within hurricane box during season July through Nov). This quote was for a 2003 SM2. Received comparable quotes from both American Marine Services and IMIS for Jackline Policy. Judy Rouse
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Randall Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:40 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] What do you liveaboards carry in the way of insurance? Can you give me a rough idea of how much I should allow for? Husband and wife normal crew. Are their any brokers that give preferential rates to Amels?
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What do you liveaboards carry in the way of insurance?
Patrick Randall <Patrick.Randall@...>
Can you give me a rough idea of how much I should allow for?
Husband and wife normal crew. Are their any brokers that give preferential rates to Amels?
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Amel 54 price?
Patrick Randall <Patrick.Randall@...>
Hi,
Firstly I guess I'd better give a little intro as I'm new to this list. I don't own an Amel but am scheming and plotting to change that. I'm a 53yr old retired fairly poor Brit, married to a Californian lady who has decided she likes sailing. (We bought a house on a canal down in Florida and a little Hunter 30 to try her out). I have been sailing since teens. I have been admiring SMs from afar for the last 2 years with a view to selling up and living aboard for my last few active years. I'm just about to start looking seriously for a used SM and have of course seen the 54 which looks rather tasty in the video, How much is it / will it be? Any ideas how fast they build them? I saw reference to a waiting list already. Probably completely out of my budget, especially as most of my funds are in USD, but I'm curious.
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Amel 54 impressions
rjct2002
I had a look at the new Amel 54 at the Cannes boat show today. I was
very impressed - they've fixed nearly everything that was wrong (in my opinion) with the SM. Waterline length is longer, sail area is bigger. I expect it'll be more spritely in light airs. The cockpit has been improved with an extendable spray hood that comes out of the windshield. The cockpit table is bigger and stronger. The stern is much wider with a nice bathing area. The wider stern means it is now possible to fite decent davits - and the yard will do this as an option. There is much more natural light in the interior thanks to lots of new portholes and hatches. The wood is lighter coloured, and fiddles etc are more modern. It no longer resembles a retirement home for submariners. The stern cabin is more spacious thanks to the wider stern. The forecabin is modular and can be either one large cabin, or can be split into two cabins with a folding partition. The washing machine and dryer are in the forepeak. There is now a huge fridge/freezer where the washing machine used to be in the kitchen. The nav table is now forward spacing and has a decent armchair. There is now a choice of instruments - buyer can specify Furuno or Raymarine. It is a much nicer boat all round. The wider stern makes the cabin below considerably bigger.
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sumore54--doesnt accept mail
eric freedman
sumore54@yahoo.com
please e-mail me with a correct address thanks eric kimberlite
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Zinc anodes
rogerhbanks <roger.banks@...>
Having just done the antifouling stint, other owners may be interested to hear what we
worked out with an engineering adviser about earthing. The reason there is only a single pair of anodes, i.e. on the rudder, is that the loom of earthing straps on the boat connects to the anode pair. I've checked this with a multimeter. It has overcome my concern that there didn't seem to be any zinc protection for the prop and shaft, nor any room to attach an anode direct to the shaft. Whilst the modern advice on galvanic corrosion, especially in marinas, is for each thru-hull to be separated from the others, clearly every other thing which is attached to the prop shaft either directly or by liquid, e.g. engine block, fuel tanks, metal parts of the engine water inlet system, and the outer brass tube of the prop shaft system, needs to be protected, which I have achieved by checking the integrity of their connections to the rudder anodes. There is, of course, the small zinc in the heat exchanger but this is tiny, even if owners do remember to change it. Regards Roger, Mango 28 Zorba
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Re: Faux teak
rogerhbanks <roger.banks@...>
With respect, I don't think the posted entries seem to deal with the faux teak itself or the
coach roof. There are plenty of comments on the stripes, which is helpful. In my case, the previous owner painted (rather poorly) over all the decking (including stripes), coach roof and cockpit with white paint, which I'm keen to change back, if possible, to original or something approximating to it. Is it perhaps the case that the faux teak is a stick-on pre- printed material which cannot be restored or re-gained? Like the posting two days ago, I would be very grateful to receive any guidance on this subject. Regards Roger, Mango 28 of 1982 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <hollamby@c...> wrote: This subject has come up before. Go to the bottom of the page and type
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Goran
eric freedman
Mail is not accepted at your address please send me a correct
address back channel. Thanks eric kimberlite at optonline.net --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote: Goran,Svensson Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:45 PMsale. SM, very little used with low engine hours. It has only been sailedacross the Atlantic directly after delivery in 2003 and after that usedby us for about 2 months total during winter and spring 2004 and 2005.Inthe hurricane season the yacht has been stored in a protected boatyard. The list of optional equipment is very extensive.not paid)subject=Unsubscribe>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 2000 Year 2003, # 396 is now for sale.
eric freedman
Goran,
My friend is looking for an amel. Please e-mail me the info at Kimberlite@optonline.net. Thanks Eric _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Göran Svensson Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:45 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 2000 Year 2003, # 396 is now for sale. This is an opportunity to obtain a very well maintained `as new' SM, very little used with low engine hours. It has only been sailed across the Atlantic directly after delivery in 2003 and after that used by us for about 2 months total during winter and spring 2004 and 2005.In the hurricane season the yacht has been stored in a protected boat yard. The list of optional equipment is very extensive. Location: Bradenton, Florida. Asked price $ 595.000 (European VAT not paid) Don't hesitate to ask for specifications and photos. Kind regards Göran Svensson _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom
eric freedman
Roy,
The winch is mounted to the boom. It does not come off with the shaft. Just remove the nut on the top of the arm which is attached to the shaft on top of the winch, and pound away with a sledge. You might bend a bolt or two as s/s is a little soft for hammering. Make sure you have a long bolt for this hammering. Fair winds, Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbenven44 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:37 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote: Graham,hole in the bottom of the shaft and driving it up with a heavy sledge hammer. Aregular hammer or mallet will not work. The shaft came loose and I sandedthe rust off of it and replaced it with a thick film of white lube.When you hit the bolt with the sledge hammer, which shaft came loose? the one holding the Andersen winch? It sounds as if instead of dropping the gearbox, you raised the winch. Is this right? I'm about to try it, and would appreciate as much detail as you can provide. Thanks to you and Graham for your input!! Roy, Excalibur SM #195 packing up completely! Fortunately the manual over ride system in the SM worksquite well. I tried to remove the gear box yesterday using a puller - youundo the bolt underneath the gear box connected to the vertical shaft thatattaches directly to the rope drum and then you "pull the gear box down".Amel told me that it would probably be very stiff and that most likely Iwould have to remove the boom and take it to a work shop with a hydraulic puller.It appears that they are right! For your information it is thehorizontal spindle that connects to the motor that has failed on my boat. Amelweren't a bit surprised at this as my boat is 10 yrs old and depending onmileage gear boxes regularly fail at 5 yrs. Let me know how you get on, Iwill be using a manual outhaul now until the boat comes ashore for thewinter, new Yahoo! Security Centre.t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q>t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w>t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailingsubject=Unsubscribe>
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Faux teak
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
This subject has come up before. Go to the bottom of the page and type
in faux teak and hit search to see all the postings. As an alternative get an estimate for covering with TEK-DEK which is a sort of cork planking. Probably costly but would look good and would keep the deck from getting so hot in the tropics. Regards, Anne and John
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discoloration of the "fake teak" decking
mike_ondra <mondra@...>
We are in the process of purchasing a 1999 SM. The "fake teak"
decking in the bow area show discoloration, spotty lightening of the color. How colorfast is this material and is there a color restoration technique other than painting?
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