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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Bill and Danny thanks a ton for your help.

Bill, I have to say you in particular are an absolute inspiration to so many of the others of us on this site with your never ending generosity of considered and detailed excellent advice which is always so very well set out and extremely helpful. Your reply here once again is yet another example of what I am referring to. In our view you are an absolute credit to this site and also to the wonderful wider Amel brand who by the way are now opening up two new boat sales agents in Australia. Over the past few months I have already spoken with some potential / prospective new boat customers (55's) about the huge value of advice and support to be found on this site. Despite there being just 4 or 5 other Australian based Amel's that we are aware of out here, because of this site in particular, and kind generous members like yourself, we have felt far better supported by the "Wider Amel Brand " since we purchased our Super Maramu 2000 than by any of our previous brands of yachts that we have owned, ie. Catalina, Jeanneau and Island Packet, all of which have actual sales outlets here in Australia. Thank you so much Bill and Judy, both Lauren and I do hope to be able to thank you appropriately in person some day should we ever be fortunate enough to sail into the same port as you.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM # 332
Brisbane, Australia





On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

There is no suction in the system. 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia


After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

There is no suction in the system. 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia


After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Colin,
In late October early November 2009 we were anchored in Annapolis, Chesapeake Bay, in company with 4 or 5 other Amels, mostly SM.. We had a gathering aboard Ocean Pearl one drinks o'clock evening. The first hour of conversation was blocked toilets. However mostly focused on problems keeping the delivery pipe from the toilet to the holding tank clear or avoiding/clearing scale build up in that pipe or in the holding tank.  
Since replacing both macerators and seals around then we have had no leakage problems and they have operated well. One exception, Yvonne liked to dispose of used dental floss in the toilet. This wrapped around the macerator blades, result no movement of "product". The blades seem to be the movement factor, the spinning creates the momentum.  However the delivery pipe is another matter. Best protection there is long flushes, the longer the better. If visitors cannot be trusted to do this, once a day give each head a flush of say two minutes (or more).
I would be surprised if another model would do better, they all succumb to user error.
If you want a smile, in the forum photos you will find my photo of clearing the outlet from the holding tank while under way at 8 to 9 knots  
Cheers
Danny
Another Antipodean Amel
SM 299 Ocean Pearl.
Mangonui
New Zealand 

From: "colin.d.streeter@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 21 April 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?
 
Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.



Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Photos of Electrical panels,

Eric Freedman
 

Bill ,

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 1:09 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Photos of Electrical panels,

 

 

done

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 AM, sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

I recall there were some photos of electrical panels in one of my owners books, but I do not have them here.

I am having someone go aboard before  I arrive and I wanted to make him familiar with the ac and dc panels.

Would someone please send me the photos, or reference a location on the AMEL site.

My email is Kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Photos of Electrical panels,

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

done

Bill
BeBe


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 AM, sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:
 

I recall there were some photos of electrical panels in one of my owners books, but I do not have them here.

I am having someone go aboard before  I arrive and I wanted to make him familiar with the ac and dc panels.

Would someone please send me the photos, or reference a location on the AMEL site.

My email is Kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376



Photos of Electrical panels,

Eric Freedman
 

I recall there were some photos of electrical panels in one of my owners books, but I do not have them here.

I am having someone go aboard before  I arrive and I wanted to make him familiar with the ac and dc panels.

Would someone please send me the photos, or reference a location on the AMEL site.

My email is Kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

karkauai
 

Oops That was supposed to be a reply to another email. Sorry.
Kent


On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have the phone number to call to join the meeting tomorrow?
Mahalo
Kent


On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:19 PM, sailw32@... wrote:

 

Kent,  You & Dawn are more than welcome to stay on are boat ,if you would like. Richard will be driving in and offered to drive anyone back over to St. M. to retrieve cars , if you wanted to sail over to Annapolis, assuming the group wants to do that. Pat
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 11:20:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, karkauai@... writes:
 

Sounds great, Pat and Diane.  I think Dawn and I will be there without a boat, as we still want to go South for a few weeks in May if we get the CDrive repaired in time, rather than take Kristy up to the Chessy.  We'll look into getting a B & B in St Michaels and bring the paddle boards and/or inflatable kayak as a way to move about on the water...too bad I don't have my Duck Trap Wherry built yet, that would be perfect.

I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone and putting some names, faces, and boats together.

Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
On the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL



From: "sailw32@..." <sailw32@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:50 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

 
Considering all the possible locations for a rendezvous and the requirements of adequate anchorage ,scenic surroundings , restaurants , etc. I have come to the conclusion that St. Michaels best fits the bill. I thought the weekend of July 11-13 would be far enough out to allow everyone to make plans. It also allows Aletes to get back from their trip to Maine in June and should fall within the small window , between Kent resolving his present problems and his future problems . Here is a suggested itinerary ,subject to changes made by the group. Everyone tries to arrive by the late afternoon on Friday the 11th or earlier . We would all anchor just outside the harbor along the SW shoreline . Saturday about 11:30 - noon , Diane and I would invite everyone aboard for a pot luck lunch . We have had as many as 20 aboard before for dinner and it worked fine, we lined the food up on the aft deck buffet style and people sit along the decks and cockpit. If we have more people we could raft another boat alongside, although I am not a big fan of rafting. After lunch everybody or anybody who would like ,could send the day ashore visiting the maritime museum , brewery , walk/shop in the beautiful little town. Then around 5 pm. we would gather again on our boat or another boat for cocktails. We would then about 6:30 pm. dinghy in to dinner at the Crab Claw restaurant ,  which can accommodate large groups. One thing , they do not take credit cards , so have cash, I wonder why. Then Sunday if the group wanted , we would leave Sunday morning and have a rally down the Eastern Bay and over to Annapolis , where we would anchor in front of the Academy . There is always dinghy races and much to watch. We could have cocktails ,then do whatever people want, dine aboard , ashore whatever. Monday morning we go our separate ways or maybe some will sail south together ,or stay longer and enjoy Annapolis. Here is a list of owners to date that expressed their plans to attend, if you are not on the list ,yet and want to join us contact me. Aletes - Mike & Lauren , Shenanigans - Pat & Diane , TBD - Gary & Robin , Bali Hai - Ric , Indecent - Stephanie , Lone Star - Craig & Jan , Kristy - Kent , TBD - Eric & Viki , Moon Dog - John & Ruth , No Boat - Richard , Atman - Velt , Brevis - Sherman , Fiasco - Aras , So right now it looks like we have 12 boats planning to attend . Diane and I thought if we had half that many it would a great success and lots of fun. If anyone else would like to join us , please contact me at sailw32@... , or if you have comments , so as to keep the site free. Looking forward to meeting everyone , it should be fun!
                                                                                                   Smooth Sailing,
                                                                                                     Pat & Diane
                                                                                                   Shenanigans
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 3:10:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, contact@... writes:
 
Hello, dear Amel yacht owners, We are leaving from France To Croatia next week. If you need parts from France, do not hesitate To contact us. We can bring some parts with us. We will be at Dubrovnik and its area. Best regards, Severine and Gilles, Karinteam



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

karkauai
 

Does anyone have the phone number to call to join the meeting tomorrow?
Mahalo
Kent


On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:19 PM, sailw32@... wrote:

 

Kent,  You & Dawn are more than welcome to stay on are boat ,if you would like. Richard will be driving in and offered to drive anyone back over to St. M. to retrieve cars , if you wanted to sail over to Annapolis, assuming the group wants to do that. Pat
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 11:20:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, karkauai@... writes:
 

Sounds great, Pat and Diane.  I think Dawn and I will be there without a boat, as we still want to go South for a few weeks in May if we get the CDrive repaired in time, rather than take Kristy up to the Chessy.  We'll look into getting a B & B in St Michaels and bring the paddle boards and/or inflatable kayak as a way to move about on the water...too bad I don't have my Duck Trap Wherry built yet, that would be perfect.

I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone and putting some names, faces, and boats together.

Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
On the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL



From: "sailw32@..." <sailw32@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:50 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

 
Considering all the possible locations for a rendezvous and the requirements of adequate anchorage ,scenic surroundings , restaurants , etc. I have come to the conclusion that St. Michaels best fits the bill. I thought the weekend of July 11-13 would be far enough out to allow everyone to make plans. It also allows Aletes to get back from their trip to Maine in June and should fall within the small window , between Kent resolving his present problems and his future problems . Here is a suggested itinerary ,subject to changes made by the group. Everyone tries to arrive by the late afternoon on Friday the 11th or earlier . We would all anchor just outside the harbor along the SW shoreline . Saturday about 11:30 - noon , Diane and I would invite everyone aboard for a pot luck lunch . We have had as many as 20 aboard before for dinner and it worked fine, we lined the food up on the aft deck buffet style and people sit along the decks and cockpit. If we have more people we could raft another boat alongside, although I am not a big fan of rafting. After lunch everybody or anybody who would like ,could send the day ashore visiting the maritime museum , brewery , walk/shop in the beautiful little town. Then around 5 pm. we would gather again on our boat or another boat for cocktails. We would then about 6:30 pm. dinghy in to dinner at the Crab Claw restaurant ,  which can accommodate large groups. One thing , they do not take credit cards , so have cash, I wonder why. Then Sunday if the group wanted , we would leave Sunday morning and have a rally down the Eastern Bay and over to Annapolis , where we would anchor in front of the Academy . There is always dinghy races and much to watch. We could have cocktails ,then do whatever people want, dine aboard , ashore whatever. Monday morning we go our separate ways or maybe some will sail south together ,or stay longer and enjoy Annapolis. Here is a list of owners to date that expressed their plans to attend, if you are not on the list ,yet and want to join us contact me. Aletes - Mike & Lauren , Shenanigans - Pat & Diane , TBD - Gary & Robin , Bali Hai - Ric , Indecent - Stephanie , Lone Star - Craig & Jan , Kristy - Kent , TBD - Eric & Viki , Moon Dog - John & Ruth , No Boat - Richard , Atman - Velt , Brevis - Sherman , Fiasco - Aras , So right now it looks like we have 12 boats planning to attend . Diane and I thought if we had half that many it would a great success and lots of fun. If anyone else would like to join us , please contact me at sailw32@... , or if you have comments , so as to keep the site free. Looking forward to meeting everyone , it should be fun!
                                                                                                   Smooth Sailing,
                                                                                                     Pat & Diane
                                                                                                   Shenanigans
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 3:10:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, contact@... writes:
 
Hello, dear Amel yacht owners, We are leaving from France To Croatia next week. If you need parts from France, do not hesitate To contact us. We can bring some parts with us. We will be at Dubrovnik and its area. Best regards, Severine and Gilles, Karinteam



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Owner's Manual old Maramu

Jean-Pierre Henkart <jhenkart@...>
 


Re: Owner's Manual old Maramu

rossny@mail.com
 

Jean-Pierre, Congradulations!!! No there is not one to send. We purchased Maramu hull #261 from 1989.  When we looked through the piles of records that the previous owner left us the closest that was found was a loose leaf binder with photo copied notes (in french) and hand drawn schetches of some of the wiring. I also found original blueprint drawings. of top and profile views of the boat. If you do not have these I could copy/photograph  and email them to you. I have modernized or replaced almost all the systems on the boat in the last couple of years and crawled into every nook and cranny (boat yoga), so if you have a question specific to the old maramu model I will try to help. If your questions are more general or Amel related then you should ask the group as they are way more qualified sailors than I am and some of them have owned the older models before stepping up to the supers and beyond and have experience with the Amel way of boating. Also, for the last word on Amel in the Americas, ask Joel Potter, he knows it all. Most systems are different then other boats, do not change anything untill you understand why the factory did it that way. What hull # are you? Where is your Maramu?
Hope this helps, 
Ross


Re: Lip Seals

Bob Hodgins <bobh@...>
 

I have purchased them from: Ultimate Industrial Solutions, http://www.ultimateindustrial.com/

Bob
Gallivant
Amel 54 # 31
currently in St. Croix



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

Patrick McAneny
 

I've been anchoring there every year for the last forty years and have never dragged , riding out days of strong conditions, it can get a little rolly though.The depths vary from about 10 to 40 feet , so of course selection of where you drop your hook and appropriate scope as always is important. I have seen many people drag over the years, as I have in many anchorages , its no wonder , sit and what people anchor , so many have not a clue. Its actually entertaining provided they are down wind of us. Pat
 

In a message dated 4/19/2014 11:15:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sailboatdelivery@... writes:
 

For what it is worth, a good friend of mine who worked for Sea Tow out of Annapolis for 13 years tells me that holding in the anchorage in front of the Naval Academy can be problematic during strong thunderstorms. These are not uncommon in the summer here.

Bob


Re: Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

Bob Fritz
 

For what it is worth, a good friend of mine who worked for Sea Tow out of Annapolis for 13 years tells me that holding in the anchorage in front of the Naval Academy can be problematic during strong thunderstorms. These are not uncommon in the summer here.

Bob


Re: Dometic Dishwasher DW2440- Amel54

Ralph Heilig
 

Hi Dimitris,

I have the same Problem. The dishwasher did not run during the winter and now exactly this happens. The Led light turn off and the pump is running. 

Did you find any solution and the reason for this?

Best Regards,

Ralph
Santa Isabella, AMEL 54, #144


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lip Seals

karkauai
 

Here is an email thread with Chuck Wilson at Carolina Seals in Charlotte, NC.  He was very helpful and supplied the seals at a good price.  It did take a couple of weeks because he had to order the stainless springs.  It was in 2011 so prices may have changed.

Happy Easter to all!

Kent (RUSTY)
SM 243 Kristy
On the hard in Fernandina Beach FL

Hi Kent,

Yes, I recall supplying these to Drew Gaffney a few years ago.  I can definitely help with this!

I actually supplied Drew with a 45x65x8 SC style (SC is a single lip, TC is a double lip).  The TC is just has an extra lip to help keep contaminants out.

I can get either style for you.  Our factory has a min purchase of 10 seals and either one is $8.32 / ea (including the stainless steel spring).

Delivery is 3-4 weeks approximate.

We can just do a credit card transaction if that will work for you.  Let me know if you would like to get an order in place, and I'll give you a call (or you can call me) to get your information.  We look forward to helping!

Best regards,
Chuck 

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi, Mr. Wilson,
I am Kent Robertson from Hickory, NC.  I own an Amel sailboat and am looking for lip bearing seals to replace old ones on the propeller shaft.  I copied this from the Amel owner's website:
 
"JL Seals in the US claims to make an equivalent seal to the CORTECO I1 CFW BAU4
45-65-8, the seal that Amel sells. JL Seals has an ebay store that sells this
seal as "45X65X8 TC Metric Oil Seal Replaces BAU4 Seals 102945".
 
"Corteco in Germany said they could only provide them in bulk and even then, they
were incredibly expensive. I was referred by the US Corteco rep to:

Chuck Wilson
Carolina Seal, Inc.
1424 Cross Beam Dr.
Charlotte, NC 28217
P: 704.523.4450
F: 704.523.4478
cwilson (at) carolinaseal (dot) com
www.carolinaseal.com

He was able to provide the seal for <$7.00 each. Note that most substitutes do
not have SS springs, but the ones he supplied included SS. He did a great job
of tracking down alternatives when faced with Corteco's minimum order
requirement."

From: sailormon
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lip Seals

 
Someone posted a vendor that supplies lip seals for the wearing out bearing and bow thruster with stainless steel springs.
Would you please send me the vendor.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite SM 376
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finally bought an Amel

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill.  Although Kristy (and the pump) are 15 yrs old, she has only been lived aboard for a total of something like 4 years.  I'm hoping to retire in another 6-9 months and will have a look before we set sail.  The previous owner supplied a complete new pump so I haven't been too worried about it as long as it's working so well.
Kent


On Apr 19, 2014, at 12:46 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

I agree...the Reya B66 also referred to as the A.M.F.A. pump is a great pump. BeBe was delivered in Jan 2003. The pump is 11 years old and we have been on BeBe an average of 11 months/year. 

I was going to install the pump kit that I received from Amel years ago, but had Emek in Gocek, Turkey do the job. BTW, the carbon brushes were almost totally gone, and the nylon on the mechanical seal was worn almost to the metal. The metal impeller was missing a few blades. The B66 kit does not include the sealed bearings...I had Emek source those. 

Take a look: 


So, Kent, it may be time for a rebuild.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Look at Dennis' solution to the fresh water pump problems he had (Post #14750).  My SM  (#243-1999) also has the same A.M.F.A. pump as he replaced.  Others have put on-demand pumps in as replacements and seem to be happy with them.  So far my AMFA pump is 10+ years old and with regular maintenance and occasional tweaking of the air pressure and/or on/off pressure settings it has performed well.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

From: "n33077@..." <n33077@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finally b ought an Amel
 
Thanks Kristy.
The draws 6'6" measured.  Book says it only draws 6'   I just got the call that the water pump is indeed nearly dead.  To the best of my knowledge the Sharki shares many of the same components as the Maramu's.  So if by chance you know about the fresh water pump I'm all ears.

My plan is to sail the outside up to the Chesapeake bay to Annapolis.  Shouldn't take more than a week and I have the GS going for me. I'll spend this next year up there as I wrap up some things then go elsewhere.
Aras



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yanmar Mixing Elbow

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bob,

Thanks so much for the additional info. It seems that if an owner has the Yanmar 100hp, this is a must, based on my experience (on our 3rd elbow at about 3k hours.)

Bill
BeBe 387


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:57 AM, <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:
 

Yanmar Exhaust Mixing Elbow--ADDITION AND CORRECTION it is $30 international, not $15---hdi-inc.com is the rest of the email address.  (He is stevew@ or stevew at if Yahoo redacts it). So mention Rossi and  AMEL grooup and buy it directly from him rather than through eBay and it is free shipping in the US and half or $30 international (he told me he pays $59.50 for an international packet) A good deal I think based on our Adventures in Shipping Costs here in Europe!  Regarding the elbow , Craig and Bill your comments on investment casting is right, it is a real piece of art, very well finished and really HEAVY/THICK.  Time will tell but I think looks indestructible.  I think his note about being able to angle the exhaust stream to avoid hose burn is also a good one.


Bob
KAIMI (Hawaiian for The Seeker) SM #429
Currently in Lagos, Portugal



Re: Yanmar Mixing Elbow

rossirossix4
 

Yanmar Exhaust Mixing Elbow--ADDITION AND CORRECTION it is $30 international, not $15---hdi-inc.com is the rest of the email address.  (He is stevew@ or stevew at if Yahoo redacts it). So mention Rossi and  AMEL grooup and buy it directly from him rather than through eBay and it is free shipping in the US and half or $30 international (he told me he pays $59.50 for an international packet) A good deal I think based on our Adventures in Shipping Costs here in Europe!  Regarding the elbow , Craig and Bill your comments on investment casting is right, it is a real piece of art, very well finished and really HEAVY/THICK.  Time will tell but I think looks indestructible.  I think his note about being able to angle the exhaust stream to avoid hose burn is also a good one.

Bob
KAIMI (Hawaiian for The Seeker) SM #429
Currently in Lagos, Portugal


Re: Yanmar Mixing Elbow

rossirossix4
 

Correction (I also posted it) it is free shipping in the US and half or $30 US if he ships it to you internationally. You need to buy directly from him and mention Rossi and Amel He is Steve stevew@hdi-inc.com. $270 US