Sail Lockers for Mango
anniemno1 <anniemno1@...>
We lost our port forward sail locker covers (2) in Katrina.
Would appreciate any suggestions on their replacement. John and Anne "Annie M" Amel Mango Hull Number 1
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramou, freshwater under fwd head
Mike Gough <mahili_au@...>
G'day Roger,
Thankyou again for advice, looks like our problems were identical and both caused by fresh water. Approx 12 months ago I made the unpleasant discovery but instead of removing the shower tray I cut away the bulkhead forward of the compression post from the saloon side, removing all damaged material from there. The post was approx 30% affected so it was not as advanced as your Mango. After much new timber and epoxy resin I think I have repaired to original strength. Water is still sometimes found after heavy rain so I am keen to solve that problem. I will let you know when I do. Regards, Mike Gough Roger Banks <roger.banks@mac.com> wrote: Hi Mike You're reminding me now of some more detail. Our shipwright had to take out the shower tray and renew the inner layer of the double skin bulkhead from the shower tray downwards. At that stage we were attributing the compression post rot to shower activity dampness working its way down the side of the shower tray. Maybe it was a combination of factors. I recommend you do some testing of the post and bulkhead with a screwdriver blade without delay. We did not have to take down the mast, however. A couple of acro-props were used to bridge the load of the mast down to the hull while the compression post and bulkhead were cut away. Whilst it all sounds rather frightening, it proved to be a fairly straightforward job for a competent shipwright and not too expensive, circa $2000 Australian. Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba On 09/10/2005, at 11:37 AM, Mike Gough wrote: G,day Roger, --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
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SM 2000 Cutter Rig
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
Hello All,
My last boat was an Oyster 435 sloop rigged ketch. After checking with Oyster I had it converted to what they called a slutter rig. A new forestay complete with sheave box was fitted about three feet down from the outer headstay thus avoiding the need for ruuning backstays. A halyard exit box went into the mast and a new chainplate was built in to the fore deck. The new forestay was normally tied down to the mast foot but for passages it was secured to the chainplate with a fitting made by Wichard which incorporates a screwthread and let down handles to tighten the inner forestay, this fitting normally lay flat on the fore deck. I did not use a furling forestay as the inner forestay was only used to hold a bagged storm jib hanked on ready for emergency use (it never was used!). It could however have been used for a Solent Jib and on the SM 2000 this should improve the windward performance either independently or in conjunction with the genoa. A sail that we used a lot on rough passages (e.g. Fiji,Tonga and Vanuatu to New Zealand) was a flat Yankee jib which was still effective furled and the high cut kept it out of the heavy seas. In my view one of the many great virtues of the SM design is its simlicity of operation and to add complications for everyday sailing would not be attractive to us. Indeed when I now see yachts such as Oysters with their rows of winches, miles of lines etc I shudder at the thought of the work that would be involved for a short handed crew. Good sailing, Anne and John
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu 2000 for sale in French Med.
rainer_bichlbauer
Hallo John,
I own a SM 143 (1995) and would like to explore the possibility to upgrade to a SM of a somewhat younger date. Would you be so kind and let me know more about your boat. In particular I would be interested : -price (VAT paid) -where was the boat sailed? -was the boat sailed always by the same person? -how many days did you spend as an average annualy on the boat? - how and by whom was the boat maintained? - electronical equipment-any change to the standard equipment? -sails are of 2001? - any other items which might be of interest to a buyer? - when do you intend to hand over the boat? Best regards Rainer Bichlbauer e-mail: rainerbichlbauer@aon.at Vienna/AUSTRIA
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boat names..
eric freedman
http://www.boatus.com/boatgraphics/names/top10.asp
top ten boat names according to boat u.s. from 1991 to 2004 serenity seems to be a perenial favorite. enjoy
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Super Maramu 2000 for sale in French Med.
John McDougall <j.c.mcdougall@...>
I have an Amel 54 on order and my SM2000, "Silver Cloud" no 330,
launched May 2001 with Yanmar engine specification, is for sale. This is a very lightly used French Med boat in excellent condition. For sale direct at a very attractive price with free berthing in Antibes till Apr 2006 if required. Please email if interested. John McDougall
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plasteak
eric freedman
Today I replaced my teak passerelle steps with this plastic teak like
material. The material was 1x 4" worked perfectly. I had this material on my last boat and it held up a lot better than teak. They cut grooves in the material at the factory. Took less time to make the steps than refinishing the teak material. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 www.plasteak.com\ <http://www.plasteak.com/>
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(No subject)
eric freedman
Today I replaced my teak passerelle steps with this plastic teak like
material. The material was 1x 4" worked perfectly. I had this material on my last boat and it held up a lot better than teak. They cut grooves in the material at the factory. Took less time to make the steps than refinishing the teak material. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 www.plasteak.com\ <http://www.plasteak.com/>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramou, freshwater under fwd head
Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
Hi Mike
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You're reminding me now of some more detail. Our shipwright had to take out the shower tray and renew the inner layer of the double skin bulkhead from the shower tray downwards. At that stage we were attributing the compression post rot to shower activity dampness working its way down the side of the shower tray. Maybe it was a combination of factors. I recommend you do some testing of the post and bulkhead with a screwdriver blade without delay. We did not have to take down the mast, however. A couple of acro-props were used to bridge the load of the mast down to the hull while the compression post and bulkhead were cut away. Whilst it all sounds rather frightening, it proved to be a fairly straightforward job for a competent shipwright and not too expensive, circa $2000 Australian. Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba
On 09/10/2005, at 11:37 AM, Mike Gough wrote:
G,day Roger,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramou, freshwater under fwd head
Mike Gough <mahili_au@...>
G,day Roger,
Thankyou for info, design under main mast sounds the same and I think water ingress from base of mast is most likely as was the case for your Mango. I have noticed water draining into the head by way of a special water trap as you described but this goes into the shower bay. The walls are lined with the usual Amel vinyl lining and I am wondering if somehow water could be moving down between the vinyl and wall proper? I think I may have to consider lifting the mast one day to resolve. Incidentally, I managed to mis spell the model name. Should be Maramu! Thanks again, Mike Gough Roger Banks <roger.banks@mac.com> wrote: Hi Mike I've had the same problem with my Mango no. 28 (the direct precursor of the SM). We had rot in the compression post under the main mast which our surveyor did not find. The problem did not become clear at first (i) because the forward well also houses the water speed transponder which leaks a few cups of water each time the transponder is put in or pulled out, and (ii) the plumbing to the basin in the forward head was leaking when under pressure and needed pretty much all the clips tightening (you may want to check this). However, water kept pooling in that same place. After some months of ownership and following the repairs, a guest spotted, when it was raining, a small line of water coming down from the mast, through the small hatch where (on the Mango at least) the mast lighting switch box can be opened to reveal cables coming down the mast, on down the compression post and into the forward well. I'm told by the shipwright who made the repairs that water down the mast is a fairly common problem and difficult to arrest, and he had applied a good amount of glass around the base of the compression post to waterproof it for that reason. I've tried as follows. I found an inspection of the mast revealed few obvious holes; any found may be sealed with a small amount of marine Sikaflex. This made virtually no difference and I was left puzzling how else water would enter the mast. I've recently put a fillet of Sikaflex around the base of the mast where it sits on the step, because it looks like some of the water running down the outside of the mast may find its way through the coachroof via the step. This has reduced the flow but I'm still looking. For the time being, I'm reluctant to block the mast completely with a filler for obvious reasons of future access. I have a similar issue with the mizzen, where we also had to repair extensive rot in the compression box system which conveys the forces through to the bulkhead. I notice water is still seeping through and drips down at the aft end of the engine room, directly beneath the mast. I cannot see yet how this is happening but I'm on the case. Good luck and do keep in touch about it. Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba On 07/10/2005, at 9:03 AM, Mike Gough wrote: G,day all, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramou, freshwater under fwd head
Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
Hi Mike
I've had the same problem with my Mango no. 28 (the direct precursor of the SM). We had rot in the compression post under the main mast which our surveyor did not find. The problem did not become clear at first (i) because the forward well also houses the water speed transponder which leaks a few cups of water each time the transponder is put in or pulled out, and (ii) the plumbing to the basin in the forward head was leaking when under pressure and needed pretty much all the clips tightening (you may want to check this). However, water kept pooling in that same place. After some months of ownership and following the repairs, a guest spotted, when it was raining, a small line of water coming down from the mast, through the small hatch where (on the Mango at least) the mast lighting switch box can be opened to reveal cables coming down the mast, on down the compression post and into the forward well. I'm told by the shipwright who made the repairs that water down the mast is a fairly common problem and difficult to arrest, and he had applied a good amount of glass around the base of the compression post to waterproof it for that reason. I've tried as follows. I found an inspection of the mast revealed few obvious holes; any found may be sealed with a small amount of marine Sikaflex. This made virtually no difference and I was left puzzling how else water would enter the mast. I've recently put a fillet of Sikaflex around the base of the mast where it sits on the step, because it looks like some of the water running down the outside of the mast may find its way through the coachroof via the step. This has reduced the flow but I'm still looking. For the time being, I'm reluctant to block the mast completely with a filler for obvious reasons of future access. I have a similar issue with the mizzen, where we also had to repair extensive rot in the compression box system which conveys the forces through to the bulkhead. I notice water is still seeping through and drips down at the aft end of the engine room, directly beneath the mast. I cannot see yet how this is happening but I'm on the case. Good luck and do keep in touch about it. Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba On 07/10/2005, at 9:03 AM, Mike Gough wrote: G,day all, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig
wilfrid.lenaour <wilfrid.lenaour@...>
The stay is attached through a T shaped that passes through a hole in the profile. the solent is on a profurl furler.
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From: eric To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:58 AM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig How is the stay attached to the mast? Fair winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wilfridamel Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:57 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig -I have added one on my own. The stay is attached to the central vertical split grp panel with two stainless stell plates. The solent is 25sqmeters (250 square feet?) works fine and avoid destrying the genoa too fast. Sailed upwind this summer in a 25-30knots wind, at 50° real wind, much better than on a half furled genoa. -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@h...> wrote: > Did you also notice that it is now cutter rigged? Now I'm wondering how > much trouble it would be to rig a solent stay on the SM2. Anyone know if > Amel offers a chainplate kit for such, or has anyone added one on their own? > > Judy _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig
Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
Wilfrid,
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Thanks for the info. Sounds like a very good idea to me to increase options of point of sail and to save wear on the genoa. Glad to hear it can be easily rigged on this model boat. Judy
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wilfridamel Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:57 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig -I have added one on my own. The stay is attached to the central vertical split grp panel with two stainless stell plates. The solent is 25sqmeters (250 square feet?) works fine and avoid destrying the genoa too fast. Sailed upwind this summer in a 25-30knots wind, at 50° real wind, much better than on a half furled genoa. -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@h...> wrote: Did you also notice that it is now cutter rigged? Now I'm wonderinghow much trouble it would be to rig a solent stay on the SM2. Anyoneknow if Amel offers a chainplate kit for such, or has anyone added one ontheir own?
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig
eric freedman
How is the stay attached to the mast?
Fair winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wilfridamel Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:57 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig -I have added one on my own. The stay is attached to the central vertical split grp panel with two stainless stell plates. The solent is 25sqmeters (250 square feet?) works fine and avoid destrying the genoa too fast. Sailed upwind this summer in a 25-30knots wind, at 50° real wind, much better than on a half furled genoa. -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@h...> wrote: Did you also notice that it is now cutter rigged? Now I'm wonderinghow much trouble it would be to rig a solent stay on the SM2. Anyoneknow if Amel offers a chainplate kit for such, or has anyone added one ontheir own?
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Maramou, freshwater under fwd head
Mike Gough <mahili_au@...>
G,day all,
We own Maramou # 147, and I wish to warn owners who may face this problem: after heavy rain we find fresh water in the hold under the fwd head. (Still unable find where it leaks in). The consequence of this leak can be disasterous. I found fresh water to have caused dry rot to form at the base of the compression post and centre bulkhead. It was a huge job to cut out affected areas and replace! If anyone has an idea of where to look for the leak I would be appreciative. Regards, MIke Gough --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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Re: Amel 54 impressions/cutter rig
wilfridamel <wilfrid.lenaour@...>
-I have added one on my own. The stay is attached to the central
vertical split grp panel with two stainless stell plates. The solent is 25sqmeters (250 square feet?) works fine and avoid destrying the genoa too fast. Sailed upwind this summer in a 25-30knots wind, at 50° real wind, much better than on a half furled genoa. -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@h...> wrote: Did you also notice that it is now cutter rigged? Now I'm wonderinghow much trouble it would be to rig a solent stay on the SM2. Anyoneknow if Amel offers a chainplate kit for such, or has anyone added one ontheir own?
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history of amel maramu no 89
marc audeoud <audeoud@...>
is there anyone out there who could help me with collecting data to the
whereabouts and ownerships of my recently bought amel maramu #89? i have only very few data and would love to find out more about her. regards, marc audeoud amel maramu #89, s/y melmar y, www.melmar.ch still on the dry in izola/slovenia
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Raytheon/Raymarine Sensors
marc audeoud <audeoud@...>
beeing new to the group, i don't know if the topic has been talked
through already... i heard, that it is not good to wire / install certain sensor cables from raymarine in paralell to the course computer of the autopilot (ST6000 compass/flux gate) or the corresponding instruments (ST60 speed / depth / wind). does anybody know something about it? regards, marc amel maramu #89, s/y melmar y, www.melmar.ch on the dry in izola/slovenia
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NMEA 183 Connection
Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
No attachments received. Does this list strip out the attachments.
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Judy
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Tyers Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:37 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NMEA 183 Connection The responce from the Engineer that installed my Auto pilot to the B&G network system is attached. I had to send my Hydra back as it does not talk to Nema. The Network model does. Feel free to e mail larry if he can help you Good luck Note: forwarded message attached. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NMEA 183 Connection
Geoffrey Tyers <geoffrey_tyers@...>
The responce from the Engineer that installed my Auto pilot to the B&G network system is attached. I had to send my Hydra back as it does not talk to Nema. The Network model does. Feel free to e mail larry if he can help you Good luck
Note: forwarded message attached.
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