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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] macerator motor

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Dear Eric and Bill,
                           for the past few years I have trimmed a generic oil seal with a new Stanley blade and replaced the Jabsco original, it usually gives you another six months or so.
Best regards,
Trevor
Seafever
#425
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Ours broke as well, we drilled a small hole in each part, and tided them together edge to edge. A little bit wobbly, but it does the job.

Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila
At Carriacou, Grenada

Skickat från min iPad

24 maj 2014 kl. 21:34 skrev "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi Eric,
It would be an easy project requiring a drill and something to etch the numbers with.  Seems to me any plastic that isn't dissolved in diesel fuel would work. Since you have both pieces now I'd use that as a pattern...if your repair job fails you'll lose half of your pattern down into the tank.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On May 24, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric,

I think I would fix it with epoxy putty and wrap a blob around it. JB Weld would work.

Mark
SM2K#275


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:34 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] macerator motor

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

Jabsco Macerator complete is 37072-0094
Kit is 90197-0000

I have given up on the kits because by the time you see leaking, damage is already done to the motor.

That is my experience. I know others have had more success than me.

CW Bill Rouse
BeBe 387
sent from my tablet

On May 25, 2014 1:58 PM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Would someone please supply me with the part number of the Jabsco macerator pump on a hull number near mine and possibly the rebuild kit # for the macerator?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 
macerator motor

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Would someone please supply me with the part number of the Jabsco macerator pump on a hull number near mine and possibly the rebuild kit # for the macerator?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Looks like they just opened it up and re greased it. It is a lot easier to just add grease fittings as I have previously described and grease the furler annually—takes 5 minutes.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 5:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

 

 

Yes, you are right. My answer was also before first coffee in the morning. 

 

Regarding the genoa furler there is an excellent description in the photo section in the "Pilgrim SM26 - Headsail furler" folder. I will upload some photos off the maintenance of mine. 

They basically replaced the grease and the gasket.

Cheers,

Rink

SM2K #330 Razor's Edge

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I used glue specifically made for Plexiglas. It bonded the broken halves together perfectly.

When that hardened as I said before I added 1/16 inch thick Plexiglas on either side about 8 inches long after sanding the stick and adding adhesive.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

 

 

Hi Eric,

It would be an easy project requiring a drill and something to etch the numbers with.  Seems to me any plastic that isn't dissolved in diesel fuel would work. Since you have both pieces now I'd use that as a pattern...if your repair job fails you'll lose half of your pattern down into the tank.

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On May 24, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric,

 

I think I would fix it with epoxy putty and wrap a blob around it. JB Weld would work.

 

Mark

SM2K#275

 

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:34 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I am with Mark on the JB Weld, and with Eric on the splints, or instead of splints, wrap the break with 3" of fiberglass and epoxy.

The stick on BeBe is fairly accurate. I measure each time we move, sometimes every day. I have a spreadsheet that I enter hours (Yanmar & Onan), miles traveled, liters on hand, lat/lon position. The spreadsheet computes lots of information, like: % motoring, mpl, lph (Yanmar & Onan), miles before fill-up, avg mph, mpd, etc, etc. I could not get this information without the stick.

Bill
BeBe 387


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Eric,
It would be an easy project requiring a drill and something to etch the numbers with.  Seems to me any plastic that isn't dissolved in diesel fuel would work. Since you have both pieces now I'd use that as a pattern...if your repair job fails you'll lose half of your pattern down into the tank.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On May 24, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric,

I think I would fix it with epoxy putty and wrap a blob around it. JB Weld would work.

Mark
SM2K#275


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:34 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I added 1/16 inch Plexiglas to either side and used Plexiglas cement . it has worked well for the last 8 years.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

 

 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

karkauai
 

Hi Eric,
It would be an easy project requiring a drill and something to etch the numbers with.  Seems to me any plastic that isn't dissolved in diesel fuel would work. Since you have both pieces now I'd use that as a pattern...if your repair job fails you'll lose half of your pattern down into the tank.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On May 24, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric,

I think I would fix it with epoxy putty and wrap a blob around it. JB Weld would work.

Mark
SM2K#275


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:34 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Dip Stick

Mark Erdos
 

Eric,

I think I would fix it with epoxy putty and wrap a blob around it. JB Weld would work.

Mark
SM2K#275


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:34 PM, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic
Re: Fuel Dip Stick

ericmeury@...
 

or does anybody...(i know long stretch) know what type of plastic it is,  maybe i can weld it back together with additional plastic supports using the same plastic
Fuel Dip Stick

ericmeury@...
 

i finally found the fuel dip stick in the "garage" it is broken in two. 

Any ideas on where to get a new one made?
Re: Taylors 030 Paraffin Cooker

ericmeury@...
 

Seems like a real hassle to me..

Cooking And Heating On A Boat Using Kerosene (Paraffin)

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

myersdon1
 

I removed the gearbox from the mast and disassembled it.  The toughest part was getting the black plastic piece off.  After removing the four cap screws liberal use of a rubber mallet from the side did the trick.  In my case the leak was around the outside of the seal as the black plastic piece has warped with age.  The area the seal fits into is nolonger the correct size (too large) and nolonger round.  I installed a new seal with rubber cement and this did the trick.  I suspect you still have enough grease in the unit as the amount isn't critical and there was a fair amount in ther when I took it apart after leaking for some time.

Don Myers, Harmonie SM160
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

So the seal must have popped out?

Regarding how much grease, I do not know, but too much could not be a problem

Bill


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ah ha!

I have no seal so, this is obviously part of the problem. Gary, if you happen to find out what size seal it is, that would be great. 

Bill, thanks. I'll look for to an update from Emek. I will be sure to add a koozie once fixed. 

Any thoughts on how to ensure I have enough grease in this?. It has leaked for some time and I do not want to have to replace it for lack of $1 worth of grease.

Mark
SM2K#275


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:01 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark,

When I returned to Turkey in 2013 after my surgery,  I had the same leak. I was in no condition to do any work and I had Emek do it while they were doing the antifouling. I can't tell you what they did, but I can tell you and everyone how to avoid it.

According to Emek, the seal deteriorates because of UV. Cut a foam koozie that you use to keep a can drink cold to size...the diameter is perfect, you need to cut the length.  Use the kind of koozie that is enclosed on the bottom.  Works perfect.

Bill Rouse
BeBe 387
sent from my tablet

On May 24, 2014 3:48 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACFFyA4LLkyy_9V3X25ioPUa?n=257876593

hopefully this link works.

Yes. This is the main sail furler (in mast). 

Anyone knows who makes this unit? Assuming I am able to get it apart to service, I will probably need parts. And, perhaps the manufacturer has an exploded parts diagram online ~wishful thinking.

Mark
SM2K#275



On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:32 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark, 

The dropbox link is not working.

I have not experienced a furler gear leak on the Genoa, but have heard that some owners experience grease dripping on the deck that comes from the grease that is between the fore stay and the foil. Joel Potter wrote about this to the Group. I found this, "It is normal. It's the grease put on the head stay to lube the furler foil do e at Amel. If the grease stops, time to probably replace the rigging as it usually happens at 13-17 years."

I think there was a more detail response, but I could not find it, and I do not know if this is what you are experiencing on CreamPuff

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACyz2QeX069dvqYOxArWvMsa


Hi All,

I have had a leak in the gear unit of the mainsail furling unit (please click link to open pictures). This has become steadily worse and now I need to do something about it.

Has anyone serviced this unit?????

I have removed the four allen bolts on the black cap (where winch is inserted) but this does not give me access to anything. I did not see any seals or gaskets.

It looks like the unit needs to be removed from the mast by the four bolts through the mast and disconnected somehow from the internal furling. I am not sure if the unit will drop down once the motor is removed. It made be firmly attached to the furler.  There are four allen bolts on the lower side (assuming the unit detaches) that look like the unit would then break into two parts.

Does anyone have a diagram for this? I have no idea what I am about to get into.

Any suggestions welcome.

Mark
SM#275
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

Mark Erdos
 

Ah ha!

I have no seal so, this is obviously part of the problem. Gary, if you happen to find out what size seal it is, that would be great. 

Bill, thanks. I'll look for to an update from Emek. I will be sure to add a koozie once fixed. 

Any thoughts on how to ensure I have enough grease in this?. It has leaked for some time and I do not want to have to replace it for lack of $1 worth of grease.

Mark
SM2K#275


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:01 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark,

When I returned to Turkey in 2013 after my surgery,  I had the same leak. I was in no condition to do any work and I had Emek do it while they were doing the antifouling. I can't tell you what they did, but I can tell you and everyone how to avoid it.

According to Emek, the seal deteriorates because of UV. Cut a foam koozie that you use to keep a can drink cold to size...the diameter is perfect, you need to cut the length.  Use the kind of koozie that is enclosed on the bottom.  Works perfect.

Bill Rouse
BeBe 387
sent from my tablet

On May 24, 2014 3:48 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACFFyA4LLkyy_9V3X25ioPUa?n=257876593

hopefully this link works.

Yes. This is the main sail furler (in mast). 

Anyone knows who makes this unit? Assuming I am able to get it apart to service, I will probably need parts. And, perhaps the manufacturer has an exploded parts diagram online ~wishful thinking.

Mark
SM2K#275



On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:32 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark, 

The dropbox link is not working.

I have not experienced a furler gear leak on the Genoa, but have heard that some owners experience grease dripping on the deck that comes from the grease that is between the fore stay and the foil. Joel Potter wrote about this to the Group. I found this, "It is normal. It's the grease put on the head stay to lube the furler foil do e at Amel. If the grease stops, time to probably replace the rigging as it usually happens at 13-17 years."

I think there was a more detail response, but I could not find it, and I do not know if this is what you are experiencing on CreamPuff

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACyz2QeX069dvqYOxArWvMsa


Hi All,

I have had a leak in the gear unit of the mainsail furling unit (please click link to open pictures). This has become steadily worse and now I need to do something about it.

Has anyone serviced this unit?????

I have removed the four allen bolts on the black cap (where winch is inserted) but this does not give me access to anything. I did not see any seals or gaskets.

It looks like the unit needs to be removed from the mast by the four bolts through the mast and disconnected somehow from the internal furling. I am not sure if the unit will drop down once the motor is removed. It made be firmly attached to the furler.  There are four allen bolts on the lower side (assuming the unit detaches) that look like the unit would then break into two parts.

Does anyone have a diagram for this? I have no idea what I am about to get into.

Any suggestions welcome.

Mark
SM#275
Re: Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Dear Mark,
               There is not much that you can get into because the mainsail furler is a sealed unit.
On hull 425 there was a standard oil seal right at the front of the furler which I didn't notice because of the leaking grease, it simply pulled out with a piece of wire, the original seal was cracked so I pressed in a new one in and the leak stopped.
Unfortunately I haven't been on the boat for one year so the details are vague but it was simple.
Like you I took the furler to machine shop to inquire how to open it up and it isn't possible, it is a sealed unit.
Br sure to tie off the mainsail foil inside the mast before you start as it will slide downwards very quickly if not secured.
Best regards,
Trevor
Sea fever of cuan
SM 425
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

When I returned to Turkey in 2013 after my surgery,  I had the same leak. I was in no condition to do any work and I had Emek do it while they were doing the antifouling. I can't tell you what they did, but I can tell you and everyone how to avoid it.

According to Emek, the seal deteriorates because of UV. Cut a foam koozie that you use to keep a can drink cold to size...the diameter is perfect, you need to cut the length.  Use the kind of koozie that is enclosed on the bottom.  Works perfect.

Bill Rouse
BeBe 387
sent from my tablet

On May 24, 2014 3:48 PM, "Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACFFyA4LLkyy_9V3X25ioPUa?n=257876593

hopefully this link works.

Yes. This is the main sail furler (in mast). 

Anyone knows who makes this unit? Assuming I am able to get it apart to service, I will probably need parts. And, perhaps the manufacturer has an exploded parts diagram online ~wishful thinking.

Mark
SM2K#275



On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:32 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark, 

The dropbox link is not working.

I have not experienced a furler gear leak on the Genoa, but have heard that some owners experience grease dripping on the deck that comes from the grease that is between the fore stay and the foil. Joel Potter wrote about this to the Group. I found this, "It is normal. It's the grease put on the head stay to lube the furler foil do e at Amel. If the grease stops, time to probably replace the rigging as it usually happens at 13-17 years."

I think there was a more detail response, but I could not find it, and I do not know if this is what you are experiencing on CreamPuff

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACyz2QeX069dvqYOxArWvMsa


Hi All,

I have had a leak in the gear unit of the mainsail furling unit (please click link to open pictures). This has become steadily worse and now I need to do something about it.

Has anyone serviced this unit?????

I have removed the four allen bolts on the black cap (where winch is inserted) but this does not give me access to anything. I did not see any seals or gaskets.

It looks like the unit needs to be removed from the mast by the four bolts through the mast and disconnected somehow from the internal furling. I am not sure if the unit will drop down once the motor is removed. It made be firmly attached to the furler.  There are four allen bolts on the lower side (assuming the unit detaches) that look like the unit would then break into two parts.

Does anyone have a diagram for this? I have no idea what I am about to get into.

Any suggestions welcome.

Mark
SM#275
Re: Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

Gary Wells
 

G'morning. No coffee yet here either so I hope this is on track. There SHOULD be a seal on that winch point where those four bolts are. I've found that if I push in on the seal it'll let a little grease pass. I'm off the boat this morning but will look and see if I can find what size it is.  Having not been any deeper, I don't what to do next if it still leaks tho. 

Best regards!

GW




Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking Grease or Oil from main sail furler

Mark Erdos
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACFFyA4LLkyy_9V3X25ioPUa?n=257876593

hopefully this link works.

Yes. This is the main sail furler (in mast). 

Anyone knows who makes this unit? Assuming I am able to get it apart to service, I will probably need parts. And, perhaps the manufacturer has an exploded parts diagram online ~wishful thinking.

Mark
SM2K#275



On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:32 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark, 

The dropbox link is not working.

I have not experienced a furler gear leak on the Genoa, but have heard that some owners experience grease dripping on the deck that comes from the grease that is between the fore stay and the foil. Joel Potter wrote about this to the Group. I found this, "It is normal. It's the grease put on the head stay to lube the furler foil do e at Amel. If the grease stops, time to probably replace the rigging as it usually happens at 13-17 years."

I think there was a more detail response, but I could not find it, and I do not know if this is what you are experiencing on CreamPuff

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Mark Erdos mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pybv05u7dbw8w00/AACyz2QeX069dvqYOxArWvMsa


Hi All,

I have had a leak in the gear unit of the mainsail furling unit (please click link to open pictures). This has become steadily worse and now I need to do something about it.

Has anyone serviced this unit?????

I have removed the four allen bolts on the black cap (where winch is inserted) but this does not give me access to anything. I did not see any seals or gaskets.

It looks like the unit needs to be removed from the mast by the four bolts through the mast and disconnected somehow from the internal furling. I am not sure if the unit will drop down once the motor is removed. It made be firmly attached to the furler.  There are four allen bolts on the lower side (assuming the unit detaches) that look like the unit would then break into two parts.

Does anyone have a diagram for this? I have no idea what I am about to get into.

Any suggestions welcome.

Mark
SM#275
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