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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster Linear Actuator

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

I think it is the motor as I have disconnected the motor from the control unit – I ran 24 volts directly to it via a 10amp circuit breaker. On trying this way it makes a little noise and movement almost immediately followed by the circuit breaker blowing.

 

Also immediately after this first occurred the motor was very hot and the cabin smelt of electrical burning.

 

Thanks

 

Andrew

 

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:13 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster Linear Actuator

 

 

Hi please disregard the previous email I hit the send button before I read the email. 

Ok regarding your bow thruster did the motor that drives it up-and-down burnout or perhaps one of the limit switches that control the motion or the switch at the joy stick. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All

Capt Richard 

RP Yacht Brokerage

Newport RI 

We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

Cell 603 767 5330


On Jul 6, 2014, at 8:15, "Dr Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Has anybody had there bow thruster linear actuator burn out – this happened to us this morning with the bow thruster stuck in the down position – I removed it and managed to get the bow thruster up with the aid of a handy billy. Is this something that can be stripped and repaired or is it the case of replacing the whole unit – I think the sensor that the detects that it is full extended must have failed.

 

Thanks

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster Linear Actuator

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi please disregard the previous email I hit the send button before I read the email. 
Ok regarding your bow thruster did the motor that drives it up-and-down burnout or perhaps one of the limit switches that control the motion or the switch at the joy stick. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Jul 6, 2014, at 8:15, "Dr Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Has anybody had there bow thruster linear actuator burn out – this happened to us this morning with the bow thruster stuck in the down position – I removed it and managed to get the bow thruster up with the aid of a handy billy. Is this something that can be stripped and repaired or is it the case of replacing the whole unit – I think the sensor that the detects that it is full extended must have failed.

 

Thanks

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster Linear Actuator

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi regarding your bathroom when you say the linear actuator burned out are you referring to the motor that drives the unit up-and-down or some other function

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Jul 6, 2014, at 8:15, "Dr Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Has anybody had there bow thruster linear actuator burn out – this happened to us this morning with the bow thruster stuck in the down position – I removed it and managed to get the bow thruster up with the aid of a handy billy. Is this something that can be stripped and repaired or is it the case of replacing the whole unit – I think the sensor that the detects that it is full extended must have failed.

 

Thanks

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 


Bow thruster Linear Actuator

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Has anybody had there bow thruster linear actuator burn out – this happened to us this morning with the bow thruster stuck in the down position – I removed it and managed to get the bow thruster up with the aid of a handy billy. Is this something that can be stripped and repaired or is it the case of replacing the whole unit – I think the sensor that the detects that it is full extended must have failed.

 

Thanks

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 


Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

faial_l <no_reply@...>
 

Bob,

Whilst awaiting replacement shrouds a strong storm hit Easter Island which forced the lower shrouds to completely fail. Obviously had ropes all over the place but the continues battering snapped one shroud then few hours later the other on the other side. 

Unfortunately the storm was not over which lead to the mast morphing into a S shape, this is usual before complete failure of a mast. Luckily this did not occur and was able to straighten it out when the rigger arrived with replacement shrouds, it would hold for the second half of the Pacific crossing but at a snails pace. 

Once the repairs was done this was when the rigger had a look at the current setup and he believed that certain shrouds, and turnbuckles were not sufficient for the potential forces exerted from the mast and sail size.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

Peter Forbes
 

Thank you for that.

Peter
Peter Forbes
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece

On 6 Jul 2014, at 12:57, faial_l <no_reply@...> wrote:


Peter, will be going for the 12mm and taking the opportunity of upgrading a few more.





Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

faial_l <no_reply@...>
 

Peter, will be going for the 12mm and taking the opportunity of upgrading a few more.



Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

Bob Hodgins <bobh@...>
 

Faial,
I do not understand what you mean by your mast "morphing" Can you detail what happened to cause you to need to replace your mast? Do you know what might of been done to prevent the problem?

Thanks,
Bob
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31
Currently on the hard in Puerto Rico

Sent from a mobile device


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

Peter Forbes
 

Faial,

Well good luck with the fit of the new mast. Are you going for 12mm or 10mm on the lower shrouds for the mainmast?

Peter
Peter Forbes
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece

On 5 Jul 2014, at 14:04, faial_l <no_reply@...> wrote:


Peter, 

As of yet the bills have to be totaled, the mast is still being prepared after which it will have to be shipped!

Best is to upgrade when you see it opportune!

Cheers,
Faial





Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

faial_l <no_reply@...>
 

Peter, 

As of yet the bills have to be totaled, the mast is still being prepared after which it will have to be shipped!

Best is to upgrade when you see it opportune!

Cheers,
Faial



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Pat,

There is indeed a twin engine option; it comes with 2 sensor collars.  One less hole at the 24 V panel.

I will also get the water alarm sensor.

Thanks for the help.

How do you manage to consult past emails???

I am frustrated.


Jean-Pierre



On 5 Jul 2014, at 14:09, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Jean-Pierre, I saw no twin engine option. I would think if you have two engines, you would have to have two seperate sensors. The three sensors( one high water) all lead to one alarm , the alarm has three lights on it which indicate which sensor is setting off the alarm. Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

 
Hello Pat,

Thank you for the info.  Why did you purchase two exhaust units instead of a "twin engine" system which would hook into a single panel warning device?  If the engine is running, you are unlikely to have the Onan on line and vice versa.  So if any alarm sounds, you just stop the running plant.  My thoughts only...

I see your point regarding powering from the 24 V panel.

Thanks 

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Jul 2014, at 13:14, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pita, I ordered two separate exhaust and one high water sensors two weeks ago. While they only mention 12v. on their website they are available in 24v. I have installed the sensor and ran the wires up where the control cables exit the engine compartment. Yesterday I bought a 2" hole saw and  will install the alarm above the 24v. panel , getting my power there.  Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 5:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

 
Hello Gang,

As much as I tried to review the posts on the above subject, as much as "loading" was displayed, YAHOO delivered a ... nothing.

If ever we can make a move to somewhere else might be a good thought... rant over!

How are these Borel exhaust temp sensors wired?  Being 12 volt units, do you just connect to the small alternator on the engine and Onan?  Did you buy the 2 engine unit and connect Onan to one and engine to other or did you buy 2 different single engine units?

For the bilge pump time run alarm, where did you source the 24 volt feed?

I know the answers are already in the Yahoo site but I cannot see the entire emails re the thread.

PITA.

Thank you for the tolerance!


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM 53 007!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

Peter Forbes
 

Faial,

You had to replace the mast!!! What a horrific problem - just in case I need to save up approximately what did that cost with new standing rigging?

Thank you for the advice.

Peter
Peter Forbes
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece

On 5 Jul 2014, at 12:04, faial_l <no_reply@...> wrote:


Thanks Peter.

As mentioned, ours too is 10mm but the paperwork from the rigging company Amel uses (ACMO) showed that it is meant to be 12mm.

These were the shrouds that strangely failed in less than 8 years and the Cataya not having had any challenging sailing having been stationed in the Mediterranean with its previous owner.

Keep an eye on your shrouds prior to any long voyages and to any remote locations, we are having to replace the mast due to the lower shrouds failing and the mast morphing.

Cheers,
Faial



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

Patrick McAneny
 


Jean-Pierre, I saw no twin engine option. I would think if you have two engines, you would have to have two seperate sensors. The three sensors( one high water) all lead to one alarm , the alarm has three lights on it which indicate which sensor is setting off the alarm. Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

 
Hello Pat,

Thank you for the info.  Why did you purchase two exhaust units instead of a "twin engine" system which would hook into a single panel warning device?  If the engine is running, you are unlikely to have the Onan on line and vice versa.  So if any alarm sounds, you just stop the running plant.  My thoughts only...

I see your point regarding powering from the 24 V panel.

Thanks 

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Jul 2014, at 13:14, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pita, I ordered two separate exhaust and one high water sensors two weeks ago. While they only mention 12v. on their website they are available in 24v. I have installed the sensor and ran the wires up where the control cables exit the engine compartment. Yesterday I bought a 2" hole saw and  will install the alarm above the 24v. panel , getting my power there.  Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 5:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

 
Hello Gang,

As much as I tried to review the posts on the above subject, as much as "loading" was displayed, YAHOO delivered a ... nothing.

If ever we can make a move to somewhere else might be a good thought... rant over!

How are these Borel exhaust temp sensors wired?  Being 12 volt units, do you just connect to the small alternator on the engine and Onan?  Did you buy the 2 engine unit and connect Onan to one and engine to other or did you buy 2 different single engine units?

For the bilge pump time run alarm, where did you source the 24 volt feed?

I know the answers are already in the Yahoo site but I cannot see the entire emails re the thread.

PITA.

Thank you for the tolerance!


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM 53 007!


Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Pat,

Thank you for the info.  Why did you purchase two exhaust units instead of a "twin engine" system which would hook into a single panel warning device?  If the engine is running, you are unlikely to have the Onan on line and vice versa.  So if any alarm sounds, you just stop the running plant.  My thoughts only...

I see your point regarding powering from the 24 V panel.

Thanks 

Jean-Pierre


On 5 Jul 2014, at 13:14, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Pita, I ordered two separate exhaust and one high water sensors two weeks ago. While they only mention 12v. on their website they are available in 24v. I have installed the sensor and ran the wires up where the control cables exit the engine compartment. Yesterday I bought a 2" hole saw and  will install the alarm above the 24v. panel , getting my power there.  Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 5:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

 
Hello Gang,

As much as I tried to review the posts on the above subject, as much as "loading" was displayed, YAHOO delivered a ... nothing.

If ever we can make a move to somewhere else might be a good thought... rant over!

How are these Borel exhaust temp sensors wired?  Being 12 volt units, do you just connect to the small alternator on the engine and Onan?  Did you buy the 2 engine unit and connect Onan to one and engine to other or did you buy 2 different single engine units?

For the bilge pump time run alarm, where did you source the 24 volt feed?

I know the answers are already in the Yahoo site but I cannot see the entire emails re the thread.

PITA.

Thank you for the tolerance!


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM 53 007!


Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

Patrick McAneny
 

Pita, I ordered two separate exhaust and one high water sensors two weeks ago. While they only mention 12v. on their website they are available in 24v. I have installed the sensor and ran the wires up where the control cables exit the engine compartment. Yesterday I bought a 2" hole saw and  will install the alarm above the 24v. panel , getting my power there.  Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 5:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Borel exhaust temp monitors.

 
Hello Gang,

As much as I tried to review the posts on the above subject, as much as "loading" was displayed, YAHOO delivered a ... nothing.

If ever we can make a move to somewhere else might be a good thought... rant over!

How are these Borel exhaust temp sensors wired?  Being 12 volt units, do you just connect to the small alternator on the engine and Onan?  Did you buy the 2 engine unit and connect Onan to one and engine to other or did you buy 2 different single engine units?

For the bilge pump time run alarm, where did you source the 24 volt feed?

I know the answers are already in the Yahoo site but I cannot see the entire emails re the thread.

PITA.

Thank you for the tolerance!


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM 53 007!


Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

faial_l <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you for the report Haldun! 

Yours seems to be the official setup and what was recommended by the Rigger from Argentina.


Re: To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

faial_l <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks Peter.

As mentioned, ours too is 10mm but the paperwork from the rigging company Amel uses (ACMO) showed that it is meant to be 12mm.

These were the shrouds that strangely failed in less than 8 years and the Cataya not having had any challenging sailing having been stationed in the Mediterranean with its previous owner.

Keep an eye on your shrouds prior to any long voyages and to any remote locations, we are having to replace the mast due to the lower shrouds failing and the mast morphing.

Cheers,
Faial


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

Halidun Karagoz
 

Dear Faial,
Mine is 12 mm from the top of the mast, 10 mm from the upper shroud and 12 mm from the lower shroud (for the main mast).
Cheers
Haldun
Amanin A54 #164
Datca, Turkey

On 5 Tem 2014, at 10:56, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Faial,


I think mine are 10mm for lower shrouds but I will measure when I’m next on board. 

I attach [ actually I could not attach as it was too big a message] herewith a copy of the Amel 54 Owners manual on Page 2-3 you can see that 10mm is correct - I think.

best wishes


Peter Forbes
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece

On 4 Jul 2014, at 19:40, faial_l <no_reply@...> wrote:


Hello fellow Amel 54's!

For information purposes, what is the diameter of the lower shroud on your Amel 54?

On my one it is 10mm, and it gave way while in Easter Island. It has been replaced with the same but will be upgraded to 12mm when replacing the mast. This upgrade was originally recommended by a reputable rigger.

Discovered from official paperwork that it was meant to be 12mm!

Regards,
Faial

Cataya, Amel 54, 2007, N.46





Borel exhaust temp monitors.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gang,

As much as I tried to review the posts on the above subject, as much as "loading" was displayed, YAHOO delivered a ... nothing.

If ever we can make a move to somewhere else might be a good thought... rant over!

How are these Borel exhaust temp sensors wired?  Being 12 volt units, do you just connect to the small alternator on the engine and Onan?  Did you buy the 2 engine unit and connect Onan to one and engine to other or did you buy 2 different single engine units?

For the bilge pump time run alarm, where did you source the 24 volt feed?

I know the answers are already in the Yahoo site but I cannot see the entire emails re the thread.

PITA.

Thank you for the tolerance!


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM 53 007!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] To all Amel 54's - Lower Shrouds Main Mast

Peter Forbes
 

Dear Faial,

I think mine are 10mm for lower shrouds but I will measure when I’m next on board. 

I attach [ actually I could not attach as it was too big a message] herewith a copy of the Amel 54 Owners manual on Page 2-3 you can see that 10mm is correct - I think.

best wishes


Peter Forbes
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece

On 4 Jul 2014, at 19:40, faial_l <no_reply@...> wrote:


Hello fellow Amel 54's!

For information purposes, what is the diameter of the lower shroud on your Amel 54?

On my one it is 10mm, and it gave way while in Easter Island. It has been replaced with the same but will be upgraded to 12mm when replacing the mast. This upgrade was originally recommended by a reputable rigger.

Discovered from official paperwork that it was meant to be 12mm!

Regards,
Faial

Cataya, Amel 54, 2007, N.46