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Re: Propshaft wearing ring

Gary Wells
 

If I understand from the first post, this solution has no steel-to-steel contact. The sleeve fits over the wear surface of the existing bronze, creating a contact surface only with the seals themselves (which have to be enlarged accordingly). Did I get that right?  The only risk I can see is if somehow the press-fit were to give way and the sleeve would get loose against the prop shaft bearing. I can't fathom how that could happen if the press fit is really good, but they are dissimilar metals and would heat and cool slightly differently.   Speaking of hypotheses :) 


Re: Onan Training Option

Derick Gates
 

Kent,

 

Thanks for researching this.  I would prefer meeting during the summer, when Brava will be on the hard in the Caribbean for hurricane season, rather than during the winter/spring, when I would rather be sailing!  However, I will be flexible as the group decides.

 

My email address is: derickgates "at" comcast "dot" net

 

Brava has a 100 HP Yanmar Model 4JH3-HTE with ~3700 hours on it.

 

I recently had the salt water cooling pump replaced because it was leaking water from the seal.  As you know, this is on the inaccessible side of the engine, and I would love to see better what I did, as well as how to efficiently replace the associated impeller.


I would also like to see how to dismantle the seawater cooling for the transmission oil cooling.

 

Add to that everything to do with the replacement of the oil filter (on the engine), changing the oil, and trouble shooting all electrical systems on the engine (shut-off and starter solenoids, alternators, etc.)

 

Derick

 

SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Hi Mike,
I did download to Rendezvous list, but can't find it.
Please email me and Jeff as on my previous post.
Thanks,
Kent


On Sep 25, 2014, at 5:11 PM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I think you nailed the scope for a one day class curriculum. Turbo issues
should be part of it as well.

Could be fun over Rendezvous weekend, or a nice getaway during the winter.

Thanks for working on this and keep me on the list.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240 w/Volvo

Mdondra at Verizon dot net

Do you have the spreadsheet list from the 2014 Rendezvous?

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel Class

Hi everyone,
Ric's suggestion that I call Jeff Leitch at BayShore Marine in Annapolis
looks like it might pan out.

Jeff would like for all of us who are interested to contact him directly and
let him know just what you'd like to get out of a diesel class. BayShore
Marine is a Yanmar dealer and would be using Yanmar engines for the class.
Those with Volvos would be learning the theory etc, but would have to
translate it to their engines.
Please contact him at jwleitch "at" verizon "dot" net and give him an idea
of what you'd like to learn. Please copy to me at karkauai "at" yahoo "dot"
com.

He doesn't think he'll have time this Fall. How would everyone feel about
doing it next Summer in conjunction with the Amel Rendezvous?

He doesn't think that tearing an engine down completely would be worth the
added time and expense. I told him I would like to have a better idea of
how all the different parts work, and how to diagnose and troubleshoot the
most common problems, what parts we should have in our spares, what special
tools would be worth having, and some hands on experience with servicing the
things we could repair or replace ourselves.

I don't have most of your contact information, and don't see a way to get it
from this website.

Those who have expressed an interest so far:
Ross..............rossny at ymail dot com
Derick Gates........
Veit Mueller..........
Mike Ondra............
Mark Erdos..........
Jim DeSalvo...........
Kent Robertson........

Please send me your contact info. Anyone else who is interested, please let
me know.
Kent
SM243
Kristy

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Re: Propshaft wearing ring

Derick Gates
 

Bill,

 

I found the Capital Area Technology website and the $10 part that is being referred to in this thread.  The link is:

 

http://www.capitolareatechnology.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=LRT+455030 

 I am wondering whether Kent is right about the cause of his prop shaft corrosion being the stainless steel sleeve he installed a few years ago, but for a different reason than electolysis.  We are all aware that stainless steel will corrode when deprived of oxygen.  Maybe instead of electrolysis, Kent's prop shaft was so tightly fitted to the stainless steel liner for his wear bearing that it created an oxygen-deprived environment between the two stainless steel surfaces.

 

Just a hypothesis...

 

Derick

 

SM2K #400 Brava

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel Class

Mike Ondra
 

Kent,



I think you nailed the scope for a one day class curriculum. Turbo issues
should be part of it as well.



Could be fun over Rendezvous weekend, or a nice getaway during the winter.



Thanks for working on this and keep me on the list.



Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240 w/Volvo

Mdondra at Verizon dot net

Do you have the spreadsheet list from the 2014 Rendezvous?



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel Class





Hi everyone,
Ric's suggestion that I call Jeff Leitch at BayShore Marine in Annapolis
looks like it might pan out.

Jeff would like for all of us who are interested to contact him directly and
let him know just what you'd like to get out of a diesel class. BayShore
Marine is a Yanmar dealer and would be using Yanmar engines for the class.
Those with Volvos would be learning the theory etc, but would have to
translate it to their engines.
Please contact him at jwleitch "at" verizon "dot" net and give him an idea
of what you'd like to learn. Please copy to me at karkauai "at" yahoo "dot"
com.

He doesn't think he'll have time this Fall. How would everyone feel about
doing it next Summer in conjunction with the Amel Rendezvous?

He doesn't think that tearing an engine down completely would be worth the
added time and expense. I told him I would like to have a better idea of
how all the different parts work, and how to diagnose and troubleshoot the
most common problems, what parts we should have in our spares, what special
tools would be worth having, and some hands on experience with servicing the
things we could repair or replace ourselves.

I don't have most of your contact information, and don't see a way to get it
from this website.

Those who have expressed an interest so far:
Ross..............rossny at ymail dot com
Derick Gates........
Veit Mueller..........
Mike Ondra............
Mark Erdos..........
Jim DeSalvo...........
Kent Robertson........

Please send me your contact info. Anyone else who is interested, please let
me know.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Hi everyone,
Ric's suggestion that I call Jeff Leitch at BayShore Marine in Annapolis looks like it might pan out.

Jeff would like for all of us who are interested to contact him directly and let him know just what you'd like to get out of a diesel class.  BayShore Marine is a Yanmar dealer and would be using Yanmar engines for the class.  Those with Volvos would be learning the theory etc, but would have to translate it to their engines.
Please contact him at jwleitch "at" verizon "dot" net and give him an idea of what you'd like to learn.  Please copy to me at karkauai "at" yahoo "dot" com.

He doesn't think he'll have time this Fall.  How would everyone feel about doing it next Summer in conjunction with the Amel Rendezvous?

He doesn't think that tearing an engine down completely would be worth the added time and expense.  I told him I would like to have a better idea of how all the different parts work, and how to diagnose and troubleshoot the most common problems, what parts we should have in our spares, what special tools would be worth having, and some hands on experience with servicing the things we could repair or replace ourselves.

I don't have most of your contact information, and don't see a way to get it from this website.

Those who have expressed an interest so far:
Ross..............rossny at ymail dot com
Derick Gates........
Veit Mueller..........
Mike Ondra............
Mark Erdos..........
Jim DeSalvo...........
Kent Robertson........

Please send me your contact info.  Anyone else who is interested, please let me know.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Second Holding Tank Failure

Ian Shepherd
 

Bill,

in order to establish whether the toilet blue is corrosive or not, this is what I am going to do. I will place a short piece of copper tubing in a glass jar filled with my blue header tank water and see what happens over a period of time. I rather doubt that it is corrosive as the older toilet cistern tanks has a copper pipe to the float ball, though of course that was probably before additives were invented.

I won't be able to do this till after October 5th as I am in the UK dishing out some flying instruction to the military. I will let the group know what transpires.

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader (2003) Cyprus

On 15/09/2014 15:21, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 
Ian,

Do you think that blue airplane water that you flush with, may have something to do with the deterioration of the pipe?   

For those that do not know it, Ian added a flush water tank which automatically fills with fresh water when the water in the tank gets low. He also added a chemical to the water that makes the flush water look like that blue water on airplanes. Ian was a BA 747 Captain before being self-promoted to a Super Maramu Captain. He is vainly trying to get as many miles sailing as he did flying. He has logged more than most of us, but I do not think he will match his 747 miles. ;) ;)

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Oooh, nasty job Ian. I checked my tanks after your first problem and my copper pipes look fine.  I wonder why yours are disintegrating and my older ones aren't???

If it failed at the bonding point could there be some stray current causing the problem?

Is that where the other one failed, too?

I feel for you.  I had to replace the hoses on both heads when I bought the boat...my crew gave me a hat with a skunk on it that said "Team Skunk".
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:51 AM, "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

As happened with my aft heads holding tank about 18 months ago, the
copper pipe that connects the holding tank to the drain pipe in the
forward heads failed. Interestingly the hole appeared where the
grounding wire was held against the copper pipe by a hose clamp. Whether
this was caused by dissimilar metals or just the pressure of the wire on
a very weak tube is guesswork. It might however be prudent to slacken
the clamp to prolong the time before failure. For the past 2 years my
toilets have been on a fresh water flush system, yet the copper tubes
still failed.

As before I got my machine shop to turn up a Teflon connector with a
shoulder beneath the tank bottom and two O-seals above. The one good
thing about the original design is that with care you can work the
rotted copper pipe out of the tank with a pair of grips, leaving a
smooth interior surface for the O-seals to mate against.

There should be a photo of the Teflon coupling on this sight. If it has
been removed, I can send a photo to anyone you is interested.

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 (2003) Crusader Cyprus




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

karkauai
 

I heard a rumor about that boat Bill.  Was it a boat that's been represented on this site?  I'd sure like to know more about what happened.

Pat, that's exactly what I did before I bought my Rocna.  I had them send me a life size drawing of the anchor, made a mockup out of cardboard, and tried it out on the roller to confirm that it would fit.  The "roll bar" snugs up against the portside vertical rollers on my boat just when the throat comes up on the horizontal roller...very secure.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 

Regarding the question about the anchor, there are at least 3 Super Maramu Bow rollers. I think that you should make a cardboard cutout of the anchor you want and see if it will fit. It may fit on your SM, but not fit on others.

There are two things that you should look at, and these two things will likely answer all of your chain questions. 


And download this file which is "Anchor Chain, Galvanized dimensions and calibration.pdf" Clicking on the following will automatically download the file:

I have seen 10mm chain measure 9mm+/- because the zinc is totally gone. Once the metal starts rusting I am sure that 10mm will get close to 8mm in some places.

I am sure that most of you know that a few months ago a Super Maramu was lost at a Pacific Atoll when his chain broke. It went on a reef and was a total loss. I do not know if the chain was defective, old, or possibly was cut by sharp coral. New chain is not that expensive when you consider what it does for you.

Bill
BeBe 387
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

yahoogroups@...
 


Regarding the question about the anchor, there are at least 3 Super Maramu Bow rollers. I think that you should make a cardboard cutout of the anchor you want and see if it will fit. It may fit on your SM, but not fit on others.

There are two things that you should look at, and these two things will likely answer all of your chain questions. 


And download this file which is "Anchor Chain, Galvanized dimensions and calibration.pdf" Clicking on the following will automatically download the file:

I have seen 10mm chain measure 9mm+/- because the zinc is totally gone. Once the metal starts rusting I am sure that 10mm will get close to 8mm in some places.

I am sure that most of you know that a few months ago a Super Maramu was lost at a Pacific Atoll when his chain broke. It went on a reef and was a total loss. I do not know if the chain was defective, old, or possibly was cut by sharp coral. New chain is not that expensive when you consider what it does for you.

Bill
BeBe 387
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Propshaft wearing ring

karkauai
 

Aloha Stephan,
I'm curious how you found this part.  I've looked online and haven't found a picture or any specs to confirm it's what we are calling the "wearing ring".

At this point, I'm also not so sure I would recommend changing to a stainless steel wearing out ring.  That's what I did a few years ago, and the electrolytic propshaft damage occurred to my boat under the wearing out ring aft of the O ring.  This time, if I ever get the CDrive back from Amel, I am going to put a bronze ring (from Amel) on until I can confirm that there is a current leak that caused the damage.  That's what I'm expecting to find when I go back in the water, but until then I'm not ruling out an issue related to the stainless ring????

Kent
SM243
Kristy
Still on the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL




From: "stephreg@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:34 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Propshaft wearing ring

 
I was able to find the LRT 455030 in stock at Capital Area Technology, an Austin TX based company with an on-line store.  They show the part for USD 10.00, which compared to buying a new wearing-out sleeve from Amel is the bargain of the year (or, perhaps, the bargain of the haul out).  

Stephan
S/V Hanalei (nee Delos), an SMM2K



Re: Propshaft wearing ring

yahoogroups@...
 

Stephan,

I searched Google for "Capital Area Technology," "Capital Area Technology Austin," and "Capital Area Technology Austin 455030."

All I got on any of these that was located in Austin was a semiconductor company.

Also, what is the part that you are buying for $10? Is it a sleeve, is it a seal, or is it a wear bushing?

I am totally confused, but I think you found something good that we might all be interested in.

Help, Please.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387
 


Re: Propshaft wearing ring

Stephan Regulinski
 

I was able to find the LRT 455030 in stock at Capital Area Technology, an Austin TX based company with an on-line store.  They show the part for USD 10.00, which compared to buying a new wearing-out sleeve from Amel is the bargain of the year (or, perhaps, the bargain of the haul out).  

Stephan
S/V Hanalei (nee Delos), an SMM2K


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

A friend of ours found out to his cost the difference between normal and long link chain! Both with the same diameter ! 
Chris Smither


On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:58, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

There should be markings on your gypsy that tell the size chain it's designed for.  Like Chris says, don't use chain that's not right for yours.
Kent


From: "Chris Smither yachtakwaaba@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 
Hi
Your gypsy or wildcat should be sized to the chain. These can be replaced easily  on your windlass if you change chain size.
As Wikipedia says"
It is important that the chainwheel match the chain size (i.e. the link pitch) closely. Even a small difference in link size or consistency can cause undue wear on the chainwheel and/or cause the chain to jump off the windlass when the winch is operating, particularly during payout, a runaway condition sometimes referred to as "water spouting" should it occur at high speed."
Just my two bits worth!
Chris Smither Santorin Akwaaba 027




On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:47, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hi, Pat,
Mine is 10mm.
I have a Rocna 40kg that fits nicely on my bow roller without any modification.  I had a Delta that came with the boat...came unhooked more than once.  I LOVE Rocky, hasn't come loose once in 4 years.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 
I just measured my chain and it looks like its 8 mm. ,which is between 5/16 and 3/8 ,closer to 5/16. I do not know how old it is , but most of the galvanization is gone . Is that heavy enough for a 53 ft. boat ? I am second guessing my anchor as well after reading some comparisons between Bruce and Rocna. I have a Bruce 66 lbs. and here in the Bay it has always held well in the mud we have , but  wonder about conditions in the Caribbean. Does the Rocna fit the bow on a SM , any thoughts on chain, anchor , and size would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Pat SM 123





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

karkauai
 

There should be markings on your gypsy that tell the size chain it's designed for.  Like Chris says, don't use chain that's not right for yours.
Kent


From: "Chris Smither yachtakwaaba@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 
Hi
Your gypsy or wildcat should be sized to the chain. These can be replaced easily  on your windlass if you change chain size.
As Wikipedia says"
It is important that the chainwheel match the chain size (i.e. the link pitch) closely. Even a small difference in link size or consistency can cause undue wear on the chainwheel and/or cause the chain to jump off the windlass when the winch is operating, particularly during payout, a runaway condition sometimes referred to as "water spouting" should it occur at high speed."
Just my two bits worth!
Chris Smither Santorin Akwaaba 027




On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:47, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hi, Pat,
Mine is 10mm.
I have a Rocna 40kg that fits nicely on my bow roller without any modification.  I had a Delta that came with the boat...came unhooked more than once.  I LOVE Rocky, hasn't come loose once in 4 years.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 
I just measured my chain and it looks like its 8 mm. ,which is between 5/16 and 3/8 ,closer to 5/16. I do not know how old it is , but most of the galvanization is gone . Is that heavy enough for a 53 ft. boat ? I am second guessing my anchor as well after reading some comparisons between Bruce and Rocna. I have a Bruce 66 lbs. and here in the Bay it has always held well in the mud we have , but  wonder about conditions in the Caribbean. Does the Rocna fit the bow on a SM , any thoughts on chain, anchor , and size would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Pat SM 123





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Hi
Your gypsy or wildcat should be sized to the chain. These can be replaced easily  on your windlass if you change chain size.
As Wikipedia says"
It is important that the chainwheel match the chain size (i.e. the link pitch) closely. Even a small difference in link size or consistency can cause undue wear on the chainwheel and/or cause the chain to jump off the windlass when the winch is operating, particularly during payout, a runaway condition sometimes referred to as "water spouting" should it occur at high speed."
Just my two bits worth!
Chris Smither Santorin Akwaaba 027


On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:47, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi, Pat,
Mine is 10mm.
I have a Rocna 40kg that fits nicely on my bow roller without any modification.  I had a Delta that came with the boat...came unhooked more than once.  I LOVE Rocky, hasn't come loose once in 4 years.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 
I just measured my chain and it looks like its 8 mm. ,which is between 5/16 and 3/8 ,closer to 5/16. I do not know how old it is , but most of the galvanization is gone . Is that heavy enough for a 53 ft. boat ? I am second guessing my anchor as well after reading some comparisons between Bruce and Rocna. I have a Bruce 66 lbs. and here in the Bay it has always held well in the mud we have , but  wonder about conditions in the Caribbean. Does the Rocna fit the bow on a SM , any thoughts on chain, anchor , and size would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Pat SM 123



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas

karkauai
 

I didn't find Abacos any problem, Pat.  Worth doing.
Kent


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas

 
Hello,

I went to Bimini (no problem for the draft even at low tide)
But I did not like Bimini.

Then February Bimini to Port Lucaya on Grand Bahama.
I had to wait 6 hours for mid-high tide to enter the marina (and only 1 ft clearance under the keel) as the chart are uncorrect.
I really like Port Lucaya Marina, very reasonnable $600/month, nice quiet.

I decided not to go to the Abaco because it is just too shallow... May be too cautious... but I am single handed.

In June, Port Lucaya to Nassau.
I decided to stay at Bay Street Marina (west side of the bridge) to avoid any shallow area in the west.
Too tall to go under thr bridge.
Easy approach, arrived at low tide, briefly touch the sand: no factor.
There is also Atlantis, very pricy, but nice facility, clean (unlike Nassau).

Now I am looking at the charts to go to the Exumas this weekend...
A little nervous with all the reefs, shallow areas, going through Yellow Banks, etc. so will have to let you know once I arrive.

If I were you, to stay safe, I would rather go to Port Lucaya instead of the Abaco (which I understood is beaufitull).

Of course always enter day time for the first time.
I am using the Explorer Charts, very usefull.
And I also cross refere Navionics and Garmin electronic charts.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, Bahamas

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 9/25/14, svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014, 7:43 AM


 









Looking ahead to our return trip next
spring from the Caribbean to the Chesapeake , I was
wondering if coming back north through the Bahamas was a
option for a boat with our draft. I have never sailed there
and know its very shallow. Is it possible to sail from the
Turks to Abacos  without being stressed all the time about
running aground. Is night sailing an option ?  Thanks, Pat
SM 123









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas

karkauai
 

Hi again, Pat,
There are plenty of places you can get in.  I haven't done the trip from Turks yet, but I think it's fine if you pay attention and choose your route carefully.  I did a couple of overnights that I timed to be over deep water during the dark hours.  I don't think I'd sail the shallower areas at night even if it looks like it's deep enough, plenty of coral heads out there that grow in time.
Definitely worth spending some time there with crystal clear water, nice people.  The $300 fee is a bit much if you're just passing through.
Have fun!
Kent


From: "svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:43 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas

 
Looking ahead to our return trip next spring from the Caribbean to the Chesapeake , I was wondering if coming back north through the Bahamas was a option for a boat with our draft. I have never sailed there and know its very shallow. Is it possible to sail from the Turks to Abacos  without being stressed all the time about running aground. Is night sailing an option ?  Thanks, Pat SM 123



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

karkauai
 

Hi, Pat,
Mine is 10mm.
I have a Rocna 40kg that fits nicely on my bow roller without any modification.  I had a Delta that came with the boat...came unhooked more than once.  I LOVE Rocky, hasn't come loose once in 4 years.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

 
I just measured my chain and it looks like its 8 mm. ,which is between 5/16 and 3/8 ,closer to 5/16. I do not know how old it is , but most of the galvanization is gone . Is that heavy enough for a 53 ft. boat ? I am second guessing my anchor as well after reading some comparisons between Bruce and Rocna. I have a Bruce 66 lbs. and here in the Bay it has always held well in the mud we have , but  wonder about conditions in the Caribbean. Does the Rocna fit the bow on a SM , any thoughts on chain, anchor , and size would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Pat SM 123



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor and chain

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Pat we used 10 mm chain. Be prepared for Hard sand in the BVI's and all kinds of conditions through the Caribbean we were successful with a 65 pound Delta on 90 m of chain. Never drop the hook in more than 46 ft. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:33, "svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I just measured my chain and it looks like its 8 mm. ,which is between 5/16 and 3/8 ,closer to 5/16. I do not know how old it is , but most of the galvanization is gone . Is that heavy enough for a 53 ft. boat ? I am second guessing my anchor as well after reading some comparisons between Bruce and Rocna. I have a Bruce 66 lbs. and here in the Bay it has always held well in the mud we have , but  wonder about conditions in the Caribbean. Does the Rocna fit the bow on a SM , any thoughts on chain, anchor , and size would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Pat SM 123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Hi!

I live in Freeport,  and met Alex!

I just want to throw into Alex's comment about Port Lucaya the following:  
It is owned by,  I believe, New Hope Holdings, and under the management of Prebin Olsen, whom I have known since about 2004.  The Grand Bahama Port Authority is trying to get Prebin out of the Port Lucaya complex because he has not lived up to the original Purchase Agreement in re maintenance of the property, so any quote you get may not be reliable.  As an option,  opposite The Port Lucaya Marina is a private marina operated by Laurence and Barb Sykes, who enjoy a good business and personal reputation on island.  It is clean, gated!, and surrounded by gardens.  I do not have their phone number, but I know their son ( this is an island!  and you are bound to know someone that knows someone..., etc.).  it is walking distance to the Port Lucaya tourist complex where Alex stayed, but MUCH quieter.  If you are interested in getting a quote from Barb and Laurie, just let me know.

Fair Winds
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM 353 Indecent

On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

I went to Bimini (no problem for the draft even at low tide)
But I did not like Bimini.

Then February Bimini to Port Lucaya on Grand Bahama.
I had to wait 6 hours for mid-high tide to enter the marina (and only 1 ft clearance under the keel) as the chart are uncorrect.
I really like Port Lucaya Marina, very reasonnable $600/month, nice quiet.

I decided not to go to the Abaco because it is just too shallow... May be too cautious... but I am single handed.

In June, Port Lucaya to Nassau.
I decided to stay at Bay Street Marina (west side of the bridge) to avoid any shallow area in the west.
Too tall to go under thr bridge.
Easy approach, arrived at low tide, briefly touch the sand: no factor.
There is also Atlantis, very pricy, but nice facility, clean (unlike Nassau).

Now I am looking at the charts to go to the Exumas this weekend...
A little nervous with all the reefs, shallow areas, going through Yellow Banks, etc. so will have to let you know once I arrive.

If I were you, to stay safe, I would rather go to Port Lucaya instead of the Abaco (which I understood is beaufitull).

Of course always enter day time for the first time.
I am using the Explorer Charts, very usefull.
And I also cross refere Navionics and Garmin electronic charts.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, Bahamas

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On Thu, 9/25/14, svshenanigans@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bahamas
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014, 7:43 AM


 









Looking ahead to our return trip next
spring from the Caribbean to the Chesapeake , I was
wondering if coming back north through the Bahamas was a
option for a boat with our draft. I have never sailed there
and know its very shallow. Is it possible to sail from the
Turks to Abacos  without being stressed all the time about
running aground. Is night sailing an option ?  Thanks, Pat
SM 123









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