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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Propshaft wearing ring

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bob's photo of the new wear bushing with stainless steel was just shown to Amel Mediterranean in France by a friend of mine. They say that they are not aware of this change.

I assume that Amel has very quietly rolled this change out.

I am sending a copy of the photo to La Rochelle today for some explaination. More, when I hear more from my friend in France, or Amel.

Just thought you would want to know.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Sep 28, 2014 9:18 PM, "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bob,

Forgot to ask how much Amel charged, if you don't mind.
Craig
SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

In March, 2014 I ordered and received FROM AMEL a bronze wearing out
bearing that had a sort of Speedi-Seal stainless/inox facing on the
surface that the seals go over. I have posted detailed pics at Dropbox
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/1tompsdjss3rr0r/AACGUoVzzawY5RnlyKpnjwRga

When I get a chance I will try to post the pics on the Yahoo site.

I am thinking that Amel quietly changed their design for the better.
Has anyone else received one like this?

Bob,
SV KAIMI #429 currently in Cartagena, Spain


Re: main outhaul

Alan Leslie
 

My 12mm vectran outhaul has a polyester cover and it has not slipped in 3000+ miles and winds in excess of 50knots.
Just pull it up as tight as youcan and it will be fine.
The 12mm fits much better in the jaws of the Anderson line tender than 10.
 
You may find Vectran without the polyester cover to be more slippery than with the polyester cover. 

Cheers
Alan 
SV Elyse SM437
Noumea, New Caledonia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

Mark Erdos
 

Alexandre,

 

It is pretty expensive there in the season (Nov – Jun). The real cool spots are Pier 66 and Bahia Mar. I think Bahia Mar is slated for some renovations. This is where the big boys keep their big toys.

 

The city facilities have some better priced options. Of the city owned and operated marinas, Los Olas is the best bet (just north of Bahia Mar). This is still quite pricey at about $2400 per month for Nikimat. But, this marina is in a great spot with plenty of stuff to walk to and the beach is across the street. It is also on the bus route.

 

Here’s a link to the rate sheet: http://www.fortlauderdale.gov/marinas/rates.pdf

 

Do not use the New River city downtown docks. While they seem cool from the river, they have no security.

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 5:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

 

 

One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind of dumpy.

Stephanie DiBelardino


On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs and service.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

staceyatsea@...
 

always a spot down in dania. However it has been many years since we where in Florida!
Playboy Marine Center 1 954-920-0533 or Harbour Towne Marina 801 NE 3rd St
Dania Beach.
954-926-0300
 
cheers stacey
S/V Orion


On Tuesday, 7 October 2014, 11:51, "Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Have you priced any in WPB/ North PB?  can you go under a bridge at low tide-- specifically, the bridge immediately north of the entrance to the Port of Palm Beach?  The bridge is the one that goes to Singer Island.  Clearance is probably 65' at mean high tide.  Old Port Cove is a very clean marina with floating docks, and is within a gated community, just off of US 1.  Lots of big yachts, especially Nordhavns (this is where we used to stay when we had a  Nordhavn 47).  Restaurant/bar on premises.  About 1 mile north of Old Port Cove is PGA Blvd.  Lots of shopping, food and otherwise, sports bars, restaurants, etc.  Or you can go a few miles south into the heart of Palm Beach.  



On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Thanks Kent,

Haven't called, but looked at their price, they want over $3000/month... I think this is a little pricy for that...

Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/6/14, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2014, 5:52 PM


 









I stayed at the Las
Olas City Marina for a few months several years ago.  Other
than nice bath facilities there wasn't much there, but
it was well located.  At that time it was priced a bit
better than several of the private marinas.KentSM243Kristy


From:
"Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>

To:
"amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: Monday,
October 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?



 









One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind
of dumpy.

Stephanie
DiBelardino


On Oct 6,
2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 








Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort
Lauderdale?



I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs
and service.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.





































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Have you priced any in WPB/ North PB?  can you go under a bridge at low tide-- specifically, the bridge immediately north of the entrance to the Port of Palm Beach?  The bridge is the one that goes to Singer Island.  Clearance is probably 65' at mean high tide.  Old Port Cove is a very clean marina with floating docks, and is within a gated community, just off of US 1.  Lots of big yachts, especially Nordhavns (this is where we used to stay when we had a  Nordhavn 47).  Restaurant/bar on premises.  About 1 mile north of Old Port Cove is PGA Blvd.  Lots of shopping, food and otherwise, sports bars, restaurants, etc.  Or you can go a few miles south into the heart of Palm Beach.  



On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Kent,

Haven't called, but looked at their price, they want over $3000/month... I think this is a little pricy for that...

Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/6/14, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2014, 5:52 PM


 









I stayed at the Las
Olas City Marina for a few months several years ago.  Other
than nice bath facilities there wasn't much there, but
it was well located.  At that time it was priced a bit
better than several of the private marinas.KentSM243Kristy


From:
"Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>

To:
"amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: Monday,
October 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?



 









One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind
of dumpy.

Stephanie
DiBelardino


On Oct 6,
2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 








Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort
Lauderdale?



I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs
and service.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.





































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

Kaj Liljebladh
 

Hi

I stayed in Bahia Mar.
Nice place nice people. clos beach and swimming pool.

You could see my flightview over the marina and beach  with multicopter.

http://youtu.be/SW_TPehYrmA


Best Regards / Med vänlig hälsning

Kaj Liljebladh
S/Y Amelit 
Amel 54  #128
www.amelit.se


6 oktober 2014, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] skrev:

 

I stayed at the Las Olas City Marina for a few months several years ago.  Other than nice bath facilities there wasn't much there, but it was well located.  At that time it was priced a bit better than several of the private marinas.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

 
One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind of dumpy.

Stephanie DiBelardino



On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs and service.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

karkauai
 

Wow! Price has gone up a lot since I was there
Kent


On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Kent,

Haven't called, but looked at their price, they want over $3000/month... I think this is a little pricy for that...

Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/6/14, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2014, 5:52 PM


 









I stayed at the Las
Olas City Marina for a few months several years ago.  Other
than nice bath facilities there wasn't much there, but
it was well located.  At that time it was priced a bit
better than several of the private marinas.KentSM243Kristy


From:
"Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>

To:
"amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: Monday,
October 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?



 









One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind
of dumpy.

Stephanie
DiBelardino


On Oct 6,
2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 








Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort
Lauderdale?



I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs
and service.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.





































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Kent,

Haven't called, but looked at their price, they want over $3000/month... I think this is a little pricy for that...

Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 10/6/14, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2014, 5:52 PM


 









I stayed at the Las
Olas City Marina for a few months several years ago.  Other
than nice bath facilities there wasn't much there, but
it was well located.  At that time it was priced a bit
better than several of the private marinas.KentSM243Kristy


From:
"Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

To:
"amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Monday,
October 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?



 









One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind
of dumpy.

Stephanie
DiBelardino


On Oct 6,
2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 








Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort
Lauderdale?



I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs
and service.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.





































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

karkauai
 

I stayed at the Las Olas City Marina for a few months several years ago.  Other than nice bath facilities there wasn't much there, but it was well located.  At that time it was priced a bit better than several of the private marinas.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

 
One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind of dumpy.

Stephanie DiBelardino



On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs and service.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

One place not to go is River Bend.  Really kind of dumpy.

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs and service.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.


Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Does any one has recommendation for Marina in Fort Lauderdale?

I plan on staying there for a couple of months for repairs and service.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, The Bahamas.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM "C" drive oil and seals and wear bearing

eric freedman
 

I believe the c drive uses 15-40 weight oil.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of thomas.kleman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:48 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM "C" drive oil and seals and wear bearing

 

 

For what it's worth, Grand Cru (SM #442) and L'ORIENT (SM #422) both hauled out this May in Ft. Lauderdale. My friend has owned Grand Cru for 2 years...........we've owned L'ORIENT for 4 years.  Both boats had normal, dark looking 90 weight oil in reservoirs. When we changed the oil and seals on Grand Cru, it was milky.........the water hadn't circulated to the top of the reservoir to change the color. On L'ORIENT, all the oil looked perfect............we had changed bushing, seals, oil two years ago. The point is that on Grand Cru we didn't really know how long it had been since the last service..........probably best to do it every haul out no matter what the oil looks like.


Bow Thruster Motor wiring

svcharisma
 

The last time I had trouble with the bow thruster, it was just the contacts in the relay that needed filing.  This time that didn't bring it back to life.  I'm trying determine now if the motor is bad.  I am confused by the wiring making the benchtest a challenge.


Not sure the the SM set up is the same as the Mango, but it is likely similar.  My wiring has positive going to the relay and negative to the motor.  Then there are 3 wires between the relay and the motor.


I'm hoping someone has sorted these out before and made up a wire diagram.  Also wondering if anyone has changed out the relay to a solid state unit w/o contacts?


Alan

s/v Charisma - Mango #62


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oregon Scientific

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hey Steve,

Don't be sorry; by replying with the name of the manufacturer, I completed a Goog search and found Naudet!

I sent them an email asking if they will service the unit directly.  Awaiting an answer.

Thank you again.

:-)



On 6 Oct 2014, at 20:30, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry...I didn't know you were in Turkey. Good luck on the repair.

Regards,
Steve
S/V Aloha SM72

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Helle Stephen,


Thank you for the note.  As Eleuthera is in Turkey, I will try to get Naudet to affect a repair.

As you say, if it can be saved, I would love to keep it.


JPG



On 6 Oct 2014, at 20:17, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jean-Pierre

My Naudet recording barograph also stopped working. I have sent it to Robert E. White instruments in the USA for repair. They are experts, and can fix most any brand of barograph. Unfortunately, the movement of my barograph had stopped working, and they are awaiting Naudet in France to send a new one, but I expect to have it back on the boat soon. My barograph is about $1000.00 new, and it was worth the trouble to have it repaired. I have had great service so far, and I would recommend sending it there. I'll give you a link to them at the bottom.

Regards,
Steve Davis
S/V Aloha  SM72

http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local/shop.pl?type=item&item=barogr_services&categ=rw_barographs&nav_bar=weather


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Folks,

I have a broken recording barometer; though I'd like to keep it, I cannot find anywhere to have it serviced.

I am thinking an Oregon Scientific Weather Station (WMR 300) could be a solution.

Anyone have such an instrument aboard?  If not, what do you have?

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oregon Scientific

Stephen Davis
 

Sorry...I didn't know you were in Turkey. Good luck on the repair.

Regards,
Steve
S/V Aloha SM72

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Helle Stephen,


Thank you for the note.  As Eleuthera is in Turkey, I will try to get Naudet to affect a repair.

As you say, if it can be saved, I would love to keep it.


JPG



On 6 Oct 2014, at 20:17, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jean-Pierre

My Naudet recording barograph also stopped working. I have sent it to Robert E. White instruments in the USA for repair. They are experts, and can fix most any brand of barograph. Unfortunately, the movement of my barograph had stopped working, and they are awaiting Naudet in France to send a new one, but I expect to have it back on the boat soon. My barograph is about $1000.00 new, and it was worth the trouble to have it repaired. I have had great service so far, and I would recommend sending it there. I'll give you a link to them at the bottom.

Regards,
Steve Davis
S/V Aloha  SM72

http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local/shop.pl?type=item&item=barogr_services&categ=rw_barographs&nav_bar=weather


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Folks,

I have a broken recording barometer; though I'd like to keep it, I cannot find anywhere to have it serviced.

I am thinking an Oregon Scientific Weather Station (WMR 300) could be a solution.

Anyone have such an instrument aboard?  If not, what do you have?

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oregon Scientific

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Helle Stephen,

Thank you for the note.  As Eleuthera is in Turkey, I will try to get Naudet to affect a repair.

As you say, if it can be saved, I would love to keep it.


JPG



On 6 Oct 2014, at 20:17, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jean-Pierre

My Naudet recording barograph also stopped working. I have sent it to Robert E. White instruments in the USA for repair. They are experts, and can fix most any brand of barograph. Unfortunately, the movement of my barograph had stopped working, and they are awaiting Naudet in France to send a new one, but I expect to have it back on the boat soon. My barograph is about $1000.00 new, and it was worth the trouble to have it repaired. I have had great service so far, and I would recommend sending it there. I'll give you a link to them at the bottom.

Regards,
Steve Davis
S/V Aloha  SM72

http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local/shop.pl?type=item&item=barogr_services&categ=rw_barographs&nav_bar=weather


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Folks,

I have a broken recording barometer; though I'd like to keep it, I cannot find anywhere to have it serviced.

I am thinking an Oregon Scientific Weather Station (WMR 300) could be a solution.

Anyone have such an instrument aboard?  If not, what do you have?

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oregon Scientific

Stephen Davis
 

Hello Jean-Pierre

My Naudet recording barograph also stopped working. I have sent it to Robert E. White instruments in the USA for repair. They are experts, and can fix most any brand of barograph. Unfortunately, the movement of my barograph had stopped working, and they are awaiting Naudet in France to send a new one, but I expect to have it back on the boat soon. My barograph is about $1000.00 new, and it was worth the trouble to have it repaired. I have had great service so far, and I would recommend sending it there. I'll give you a link to them at the bottom.

Regards,
Steve Davis
S/V Aloha  SM72

http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local/shop.pl?type=item&item=barogr_services&categ=rw_barographs&nav_bar=weather


On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Folks,

I have a broken recording barometer; though I'd like to keep it, I cannot find anywhere to have it serviced.

I am thinking an Oregon Scientific Weather Station (WMR 300) could be a solution.

Anyone have such an instrument aboard?  If not, what do you have?

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM "C" drive oil and seals and wear bearing

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

For what it's worth, Grand Cru (SM #442) and L'ORIENT (SM #422) both hauled out this May in Ft. Lauderdale. My friend has owned Grand Cru for 2 years...........we've owned L'ORIENT for 4 years.  Both boats had normal, dark looking 90 weight oil in reservoirs. When we changed the oil and seals on Grand Cru, it was milky.........the water hadn't circulated to the top of the reservoir to change the color. On L'ORIENT, all the oil looked perfect............we had changed bushing, seals, oil two years ago. The point is that on Grand Cru we didn't really know how long it had been since the last service..........probably best to do it every haul out no matter what the oil looks like.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM "C" drive oil and seals and wear bearing

karkauai
 

Hi,  Mike,
Yes, water will make the oil in the reservoir turn milky.

I've always changed my seals when ever I haul out...usually at 2 years and well under the 800hr recommended maintenance interval.  I would be interested to hear if your seals hold up for 4 or more years.

I'm jaded about it because the first two times seals were changed, they were put in 2 for oil and 1 for water...I had water in the oil before the next haulout was due.  Since I've put them in 2 for water and 1 for oil, I've not had any water ingress or oil loss, but I'm hesitant to wait until 800 hrs, or even 500 because of the extra haulout costs.

My change to stainless wear bushing was because of the cost of these frequent maintenances and the fact that I was getting water in the oil (I didn't quite understand the purpose of the wear bushing).  The bronze ones did have some wear, but it was minimal.  The stainless one doesn't show anything but a shiny ring where the lip seals touch.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:17 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM "C" drive oil and seals and wear bearing

 
We just hauled Aletes SM#240 for other reasons and considered changing "C"
drive oil and seals. Checking the log is has been only 240 hrs since last
changed and the oil in the reservoir looked fine. We believe the recommended
service interval for this is 800 hours so we did not proceed with the task.

However, several questions arose in this decision.

1) When there is water infiltration and the oil begins to turn milky,
does this show up in the reservoir? Does the oil actually circulate, or is
it just a visual verification of the level of oil supply? (There is a small
return hose coming in the top of the reservoir seemingly to return oil.)

2) If milky in the reservoir, clearly it is time to change oil and
seals even if earlier than 800 hours. However, if after 800 hours and the
oil is still good, why change the oil? If the seals are working well, could
it be 1000 or more hours between service? Perhaps it was 800 hours with the
2 seal configuration and the 3 seal configuration lasts a lot longer? I
wouldn't think there would be temperature degradation of the oil.

3) We have 3 brass shaft wear bearings (one installed and 2 spare). All
have been used and reused at one time or another. None show the kind of wear
indicated in photo postings. None have resulted in intrusion of water. (We
use 45x65x8 CRW1 R nitrile seals from SKF @ $6.04 ea. always installed 1 to
oil, 2 to water). The worst wear we see on any of them is a tiny score line
presumably where the seal lip touches the wear bearing. Are we just lucky or
does this seal system typically perform well and give long life?

Comments always welcome.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:08 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop shaft wear bushing alternatives and seals
and sourcing alternatives

I know that some very experienced people have suggested changing the prop
shaft wear bushings to stainless, or using a stainless sleeve, and/or some
other method. There are probably 6 unproven theories on this issue. I think
it all started because some of us believe that Amel overcharges for the wear
bushing (and they probably do). Then, of course, the theories about changing
the Amel-suggested orientation of the oil/water seals that fit on the wear
bushing. Then, additionally, various other sources of the seals, and O rings
in the place of springs...yada, yada, yada...I am getting a headache
remembering all of this stuff.

For what it is worth, I think that Amel has much more experience with this
than any one Amel owner, and certainly more than me.

I am sorry if I disagree with some of you, who, by the way, I respect
immensely...BUT, haulouts and C Drives are for too expensive for me to start
diddling with the small stuff. I am sticking with Amel for these parts. I
could not sleep at night if I started playing Russian Roulette.

I hope I haven't ruffled too many feathers, but I just had to say this...I
promise, I will not say it again.

Bill

BeBe 387

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:51 PM, herbert@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:

This summer we had water in the drive-oil (milky) so we hauled and changed
the sealings. We found out that there was a steel wearing ring and not the
brass ring from Amel. When the seals have been changed last haul-out only
the sealings have been changed, according to the "professional" there is
nothing else to do. Now I learned that the wearing ring should be changed
always when the seals are changed, it is an inexpensive item from Amel
(compared to an extra haul-out)

I uploaded some fotos to show how the (steel) wearing ring looks at end of
life...

Th wearing ring is fixed to the shaft and the outer surface is next to the
three seals.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1059967243

fair winds,

tadeja and herbert,
KALI MERA, SN 120, Kusadasi