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TDS Meters (addn'l info)

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Following my previous post, also check out this web page from the same
source: http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/water-tests.asp

Roy


TDS Tester and in-line meter

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi,
I have been following the discussion about watermakers and
especially the reliability of the salinity sensor on the Dessalator
unit. I recently had to replace a RO unit at home, and started looking
for suppliers on line. I found this source:
http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/reverse-osmosis-systems.asp
that sells portable TDS meters for under $40, and an in-line meter for
under $50. They seem like good investments to check the quality of our
watermakers. I will be ordering one or both for our boat.

Regards, Roy (Excalibur SM #195)


Super Maramu 2000 Red Line

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Does anyone know the difference between a SM2 Red Line and a regular Super
Maramu 2000? Have seen this terminology in ads several times and the Red
Line is always priced significantly higher. What are the differences?

Judy Rouse
SM2 #387

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away."


Super Maramu for sale

Göran Svensson
 

I noticed a message the other day from a couple looking for a Super
Maramu!
Well, our Super Maramu #396 is still for sale. Details are available
at www. Boats.com. (Search for "Amel" then sort by year ). Look for
2003 model in the name of Bengt Ebesson.
The price is reduced and furthermore since the boat is not yet listed
with any broker we can consider additional price reduction. Take
contact.

Kind Regards
Göran Svensson


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SHARKI

Steve Leeds
 

Dear Bruno,
I own Sharki #121 built in 1985, the first year the boat was built with all roller furling sails (the system is much heavier than later models). I believe the mast is also shorter than later models. My wife and I have sailed this boat around the world.

After some years experience with this boat and a new flat mainsail, I would say it's windward ability is good. It cannot sail to windward like a racer (but is much more comfortable), but can point closer to the wind than many popular cruising boats. We have been very happy with the boat, which we still own and enjoy.

I understand that earlier models with conventional mainsails will point better than ours.

The only significant maintenance issue with boats of this vintage is the failure of the adhesive holding up the headliner in the heat of the tropics. It is likely that any Sharki would have had this repaired by now (some better than others!)

I hope this information is helpful.

Good Luck,

Steve Leeds
Yacht MACCABEE
Sharki 121
Circumnavigator's Yacht Service
Fort Lauderdale, Florida


PAULIN Bruno <bbdpaulin@yahoo.com> wrote:
yes it's exactly what i desired.

Roger Banks <roger.banks@mac.com> wrote: Hi

I think the French correspondent may be asking for Sharki owners to
give him details of how the boat performs into the wind.

Regards, Roger, Mango 20, Zorba


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wrote:

Bonjour!

Je vais peut-être acheter un SHARKI (LIMBO II) qui est ancré au
Yacht
Club de Tahiti (Polynésie Française).
Je connais la réputation de la construction AMEL et du confort.
Mais il y a aussi une mauvaise idée quand aux performances en
navigation, surtout au près...
Les propriétaires de SHARKI peuvent-ils m'en dire plus sur les
capacités à remonter au vent de ce bateau?

Par avance, merci de vos réponses.
I'll give a rough translation for those who don't speak French...
Hi,

I am considering to buy a Sharki (Limbo II), achored at Yacht club de
Tahit. I know about the reputation of the construction and the comfort
of AMEL, but also a lesser reputation on performance and navigation
(sic). Could owners of a Sharki please tell me more about the things
to refurbish after the purchase of this boat.
Thanks in advance...

Eddy May (just lurking and Dutch citizen ;-)





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SHARKI

PAULIN Bruno <bbdpaulin@...>
 

yes it's exactly what i desired.

Roger Banks <roger.banks@mac.com> wrote: Hi

I think the French correspondent may be asking for Sharki owners to
give him details of how the boat performs into the wind.

Regards, Roger, Mango 20, Zorba


On 05/01/2006, at 11:13 PM, sy_windfall wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bbdpaulin" <bbdpaulin@y...>
wrote:

Bonjour!

Je vais peut-être acheter un SHARKI (LIMBO II) qui est ancré au
Yacht
Club de Tahiti (Polynésie Française).
Je connais la réputation de la construction AMEL et du confort.
Mais il y a aussi une mauvaise idée quand aux performances en
navigation, surtout au près...
Les propriétaires de SHARKI peuvent-ils m'en dire plus sur les
capacités à remonter au vent de ce bateau?

Par avance, merci de vos réponses.
I'll give a rough translation for those who don't speak French...
Hi,

I am considering to buy a Sharki (Limbo II), achored at Yacht club de
Tahit. I know about the reputation of the construction and the comfort
of AMEL, but also a lesser reputation on performance and navigation
(sic). Could owners of a Sharki please tell me more about the things
to refurbish after the purchase of this boat.
Thanks in advance...

Eddy May (just lurking and Dutch citizen ;-)





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Re: Hull ID numbers

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Duncan,

On my 1983 Maramu, the only hull ID number was on the AMEL plate
located on the port side of the companionway, and this only had the
series hull number (for example, #135). I don't think AMEL started
using US-type hull ID numbers until later, probably around 1990.
Hope this helps.
Roy on Excalibur, SM #195

Can someone help me locate the Hull Idendification Number on a 1986
Maramu? Can they be found in more than one location?

Thank you,
Duncan McCallie
Project Boat company, LLC
206-691-1418


Hull ID numbers

duncanmccallie <duncan@...>
 

Can someone help me locate the Hull Idendification Number on a 1986
Maramu? Can they be found in more than one location?

Thank you,
Duncan McCallie
Project Boat company, LLC
206-691-1418


Super Mistral Sport

thelongsobs
 

Hello all,
I have recently bought a Super Mistral Sport, I notice that there is
not much information about this boat.
My boat dates from 1970 and is in reasonably good condition but for
the sea toilet. The toilet pump has almost disintegrated, the words on
the casting at the bottom read "JON BOY EXDALE CANADA".
Can anybody tell me if the pump is still available, I have been unable
to find any information on the web.
If any other Super Mistral Sport owners have any comments I would
appreciate them.

Regards
Roger


auto pilot brushes

caramel02uk <pjn.mccallin@...>
 

whilst in Trinidad I went to the Raymarine agent and asked that he get
me a set of brushes for my Type 2 linier drive motor. I work on the
basis that if I have a spare the unit will never need it!!
Guess what Raymarine USA Michael.J.Warren@raymarine.com advised
brushes cannot be supplied, his alternative was to sell me a complete
new motor. I was under the impression supplies of spares had to be
offered for 10 years after withdralal of an item but I could be wrong
on this.
I tracked down the motor manufacturer who is based in GWYNEDD Wales and
for GBP18 I got 4 brushes sent to me.


Info's in bad english :-))

hns154es <hns154es@...>
 

Switch off the Engine

Very often, we couldn't switch off our Volvo TMD22 with the key. The
change of the solenoid brought help for a couple of days. A
definitive resolution of the problem was in fact very easy: There is
a gum on the solenoid which expands when the fuel gets hot. This is
especially the case, when the engine runs a lot in idle mode (for
ex. approaching a marina and manoeuvring the boat in a berth). The
expanded gum doesn't fit any more into the fuel pipe and can't stop
the flow. The conclusion for us was to take out the solenoid,
carefully sand the gum a little bit to reduce its diameter. Since
we've done this, no problems at all.


Black exhaust-smoke on the side of the hull

To get rid of almost all black material on our hull, we've installed
an Algae-x (http://algae-x.net/), a fuel conditioner, in our system.
Since 500 generator and engine hours we haven't change any diesel
fuel filters – because there are still clean and proper (even the
Racor pre-filter) – and we had no reason to clean the hull on the
exhaust side of the boat :-)). There are other advantages, for
example no need for cleaning the tank any more, etc. This great unit
is a real pleasure …

Hanspeter & Nathalie Wehrli
SM #158 on the way to Ecuador


nice breeze

eric freedman
 

Check this out,
Our trip north early may from St Thomas to N.Y. wind just picked up to 50
knots. The sound is the wind.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

http://www.freedmans.com/images/kimberlite/video2.html


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SHARKI

Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
 

Hi

I think the French correspondent may be asking for Sharki owners to
give him details of how the boat performs into the wind.

Regards, Roger, Mango 20, Zorba


On 05/01/2006, at 11:13 PM, sy_windfall wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bbdpaulin" <bbdpaulin@y...>
wrote:

Bonjour!

Je vais peut-être acheter un SHARKI (LIMBO II) qui est ancré au
Yacht
Club de Tahiti (Polynésie Française).
Je connais la réputation de la construction AMEL et du confort.
Mais il y a aussi une mauvaise idée quand aux performances en
navigation, surtout au près...
Les propriétaires de SHARKI peuvent-ils m'en dire plus sur les
capacités à remonter au vent de ce bateau?

Par avance, merci de vos réponses.
I'll give a rough translation for those who don't speak French...
Hi,

I am considering to buy a Sharki (Limbo II), achored at Yacht club de
Tahit. I know about the reputation of the construction and the comfort
of AMEL, but also a lesser reputation on performance and navigation
(sic). Could owners of a Sharki please tell me more about the things
to refurbish after the purchase of this boat.
Thanks in advance...

Eddy May (just lurking and Dutch citizen ;-)





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Company website

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

It is now only in French and you won't find any historical info at all, but
here is the link:

http://www.amel.fr/

Judy
SM2 #387

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Company website

I must not be doing something right. I have searched for the Amel
official company website, and not found one. I notice that there is no
link there from this site. Anyone able to help? Thanks.


Amel Company website

Ag Av8ter
 

I must not be doing something right. I have searched for the Amel
official company website, and not found one. I notice that there is no
link there from this site. Anyone able to help? Thanks.


Re: Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Richard,

We spent two summers in Maine and Nova Scotia, in cold water, and
got some mildew from condensation under the aft cabin bunk, over the
settee refrigerator, and in a few other places. We also got
condensation anyplace the cold hull is exposed to the interior of the
boat, for example the floor of hanging lockers. Two suggestions:
1) Buy some HyperVent material and place it under all bunks and under
the cushion over the fridge (www.hyperventmarine.com) This stuff is
great at preventing mildew from condensation. You can also line the
bottom of lockers that are in contact with cold water with HyperVent.
2) If you do get mildew on the "carpeting" material under the
cushions, for example under the aft cabin bunk, spray some bleach and
water(50-50)mixture on it, brush it in well, and let it sit for 30
minutes, then rinse it off and dry well. We have found that this
removes all mildew without damaging the carpeting.

Enjoy!

Roy on Excalibur SM #195


Re: Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

Zanareva
 

Eric, Graham and Ian,

Thanks for your prompt responses. Great to hear that condensation is not the problem that I had thought it would be!

We're located on the east coast of central Florida (Satellite Beach).

Best regards,

Richard Tate

SM#5 Spice


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: onan genset

eric freedman
 

Dear Ian,
The "non standard earthing arrangement" is in fact a Yanmar option. If you
look in the parts manual, you will see a second option under the electrical
section showing dual wire sensors for the engine. I once had an engine stop
problem but found that is was due to a sticky shutdown relay. I replaced it
and it resolved the problem.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: onan genset

Patrick,

I still get shutdown problems with the Yanmar too, despite having fitted a
modification kit supplied through Amel. The extra relay and capacitor did
help improve the problem, but often the engine does not stop for at least 10
seconds after the stop button is pushed. Sometimes waggling the key assists,
but sometimes not.

I would really like to cure this problem. I dread the day when I want to
throttle back and I can't due to a linkage problem. Not being able to cut
the engine imediately could prove very expensive, and potentialy dangerous.

Has anyone any ideas on how to make the engine stop reliably other than
installing a manual fuel shut off valve close to the injectors? I have heard
that the problem may be associated with Amel's non standard earthing
arrangements for the engine.

Ian Shepherd

-------Original Message-------

From: caramel02uk
Date: 01/05/06 15:01:04
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: onan genset

Dear ken
Thanks for the advice, I do not have the type of solonoid you have
Described but there is one fitted just below the starter on the
Negative side, so I guess this is the problem. I now have an
Occasional problem in stopping the yanmar 100 hp; not alwase but
Occasionaly when I press the stop button nothing happens. Just above
The fuel pump there is a solinoid/relay again on the neg side , do
You think it is the same problem - sticking. The yacht was laid up
For almost 17 months although the batteries were perminantly hooked
Up to shore power the engine and genset were mothballed.Thanks
Patrick
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ken & Nancy Burnap"
<notrevie2000@y...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "caramel02uk"
<pjn.mccallin@j...> wrote:

can anyone assist please, after only 450 hours use, the Gen set
Is
becoming difficult to start. On pressing the start button there
are
lots of clicks from the various relays and the fuel pump but
nothing
happens, no cranking,nada. Repeat the process and it will start
Up
after say four or five presses of the button. Have checked all
battery
leads starter connections am now stumped and wonder if a similar
problem has been encountered. Thanks in advance Patrick
CARAMELLE.
Amel has taken the prevention on galvanic action one step beyond
Any
other boat mfg. They not only have an interrupt solenoid in the
positive circuit for the motor but they also have one on the
negative circuit. When the start button is pushed both of these
solenoids must engage at the same time for the motor to start.
The
cause of your problem is almost assuredly because the negative
solenoid is sticking. The good news is, it's easy to get to and
short stop around. It is in plain sight on the port side of the
engine, a cylinder shape about 1.25" dia. X 6" long, with a rubber
push button on either the top or the bottom depending on how it
Was
mounted. It has been mounted in various positions in an attempt
To
lessen this probability of it's sticking. The next time this
happens, have one person hold down the rubber push button on the
solenoid while a second person pushes the start button. That's
It.
You obviously could short across the terminals as a permanent fix
but I would not recommend this, I think the second interrupt is a
good idea when it works. I found that the sticking problem
Occurred
when the engine was fairly hot after an extended run and not given
enough idle time to cool down before shutting it off..

Hope this helps.

Ken Burnap
S/v Notre Vie






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: onan genset

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Patrick,

I still get shutdown problems with the Yanmar too, despite having fitted a
modification kit supplied through Amel. The extra relay and capacitor did
help improve the problem, but often the engine does not stop for at least 10
seconds after the stop button is pushed. Sometimes waggling the key assists,
but sometimes not.

I would really like to cure this problem. I dread the day when I want to
throttle back and I can't due to a linkage problem. Not being able to cut
the engine imediately could prove very expensive, and potentialy dangerous.

Has anyone any ideas on how to make the engine stop reliably other than
installing a manual fuel shut off valve close to the injectors? I have heard
that the problem may be associated with Amel's non standard earthing
arrangements for the engine.

Ian Shepherd

-------Original Message-------

From: caramel02uk
Date: 01/05/06 15:01:04
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: onan genset

Dear ken
Thanks for the advice, I do not have the type of solonoid you have
Described but there is one fitted just below the starter on the
Negative side, so I guess this is the problem. I now have an
Occasional problem in stopping the yanmar 100 hp; not alwase but
Occasionaly when I press the stop button nothing happens. Just above
The fuel pump there is a solinoid/relay again on the neg side , do
You think it is the same problem - sticking. The yacht was laid up
For almost 17 months although the batteries were perminantly hooked
Up to shore power the engine and genset were mothballed.Thanks
Patrick
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ken & Nancy Burnap"
<notrevie2000@y...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "caramel02uk"
<pjn.mccallin@j...> wrote:

can anyone assist please, after only 450 hours use, the Gen set
Is
becoming difficult to start. On pressing the start button there
are
lots of clicks from the various relays and the fuel pump but
nothing
happens, no cranking,nada. Repeat the process and it will start
Up
after say four or five presses of the button. Have checked all
battery
leads starter connections am now stumped and wonder if a similar
problem has been encountered. Thanks in advance Patrick
CARAMELLE.
Amel has taken the prevention on galvanic action one step beyond
Any
other boat mfg. They not only have an interrupt solenoid in the
positive circuit for the motor but they also have one on the
negative circuit. When the start button is pushed both of these
solenoids must engage at the same time for the motor to start.
The
cause of your problem is almost assuredly because the negative
solenoid is sticking. The good news is, it's easy to get to and
short stop around. It is in plain sight on the port side of the
engine, a cylinder shape about 1.25" dia. X 6" long, with a rubber
push button on either the top or the bottom depending on how it
Was
mounted. It has been mounted in various positions in an attempt
To
lessen this probability of it's sticking. The next time this
happens, have one person hold down the rubber push button on the
solenoid while a second person pushes the start button. That's
It.
You obviously could short across the terminals as a permanent fix
but I would not recommend this, I think the second interrupt is a
good idea when it works. I found that the sticking problem
Occurred
when the engine was fairly hot after an extended run and not given
enough idle time to cool down before shutting it off..

Hope this helps.

Ken Burnap
S/v Notre Vie






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Hi Richard,

as you know I have taken my SM to Greenland, Labrador & Newfoundland on more
than one occasion. I can't say that at any time that I was really cold other
than once having to dive under the boat to cut a rope off the prop in a sea
temperature of 4 degrees Centigrade!

The boat's insulation is pretty good, and I suffered very little
condensation. Maybe just a little on the inside of the hull at the back of
the hanging lockers. I did have the luxury of an Eberspacher heater which I
did use some mornings in Greenland. It did dry the boat well. Cooking was
another good source of heat. I take it that you don't have the a/c units
with reverse cycle capability? Useful on shore power or when running the
genset. I never had any shore power up there though. Maybe you could carry a
couple of electric fan heaters for use when the genset is running?

You might want to take some thermal long john's along. I found them useful
when I had to leave the sea berth to visit the cockpit for a quick look
around or to trim sail. In fact I seem to rembember I slept in them whilst
under way.

My cockpit has the side panels to the folding bimini plus the vertical back
cover with the zipped door. This really helped keep the often gale force
winds at bay, but when the wind was from aft, it did get draughty due to the
poor seal between the back cover and the cockpit sides and the seats. You
might want to add some overlap in this area to get a better seal. Otherwise
the cockpit was quite snug. The disadvantage with this layout is that if you
need to get to the winches, you need to unzip the door as they are outside
the enclosed area altogther.

I don't know if you are planning any winter sailing in the UK, but I would
say that from April till the end of October, you will be pleasantly
surprised at our climate, though it might rain a bit! Out of the Gulf Stream
you might feel a bit cooler in Scandinavia, though the longer hours of
daylight may compensate a bit.

Experience on previous boats has found that the Tilley lamp can be a good
source of heat, as well as portable camping butune heaters. They will
produce some condensation though. I would get one of those battery driven
carbon monoxide monitors from one of your mega stores if you are going to
use such devices. I picked one up for about $30 in Newfoundland from
Canadian Tire. It did sound the alarm once when a side wind blew the genset
exhaust into the cabin.

Have a super trip Richard. There are many great spots to visit either side
of the English Channel, and when the sun shines in the Hebrides off Scotland
there are few places better.

Spare a thought as I swelter in the Red Sea this summer!

Regards

Ian Shepherd SM 414 'Crusader'

-------Original Message-------

From: closereach
Date: 01/05/06 04:16:01
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather
sailing

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
Next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
Higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent or
Minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
System. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when passage-
Making and living on the hook?

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"






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