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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel contact info question

jrjrjrouse2000 <judyrouse@...>
 

Since Yahoo strips out the email addresses in these posts, would you
please send Olivier Beaute's email address to me at:
judyrouse "at" houston.rr.com

Thanks,

Judy

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shepherd"
<ocean53@s...> wrote:

Hi Judy,

Welcome to the Amel fraternity. If you want parts, contact Olivier
Beaute in
La Rochelle via email amel@a... (or by phone or fax). Olivier
speaks
excellent English and is most helpful. Delivery is normally by DHL
or, if
you prefer by post .

I have enclosed my details on Amel below.

Happy Sailing

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader

Chantiers AMEL
16, rue Joseph Cugnot
BP 15 17 182
PERIGNY Cedex
France

Tél. : +33.546.55.17.31

Fax. : +33.546.45.43.03




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel contact info question

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Hi Judy,

Welcome to the Amel fraternity. If you want parts, contact Olivier Beaute in
La Rochelle via email amel@amel.fr (or by phone or fax). Olivier speaks
excellent English and is most helpful. Delivery is normally by DHL or, if
you prefer by post .

I have enclosed my details on Amel below.

Happy Sailing

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader

Chantiers AMEL
16, rue Joseph Cugnot
BP 15 17 182
PERIGNY Cedex
France

Tél. : +33.546.55.17.31

Fax. : +33.546.45.43.03


Amel contact for parts

eric freedman
 

Judy,

Mr BEAUTE has all the spares you will ever need.

He is extremely knowledgeable about our boats and was an instructor for new
boat deliveries.

He is very charming and helpful. Due to the volume of business, it might
take a few days for an answer from him.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





Chantiers AMEL
16, rue Joseph Cugnot
17 182 PERIGNY CEDEX
FRANCE



Tél.: 00 33 (0) 5 46 55 17 31
Fax : 00 33 (0) 5 46 45 43 03



www.amel.fr



amel@amel.fr



Olivier BEAUTE
After-sales dept.


Amel contact info question

jrjrjrouse2000 <judyrouse@...>
 

We recently purchased SM2 #387 and have renamed her S/Y Security.
There are several things that we would like to obtain from Amel. I
have heard that Amel maintains some sort of owner database and that we
should contact Amel and register as the new owners.

Does anyone have the contact info for Amel for either this database
registration or for ordering spare parts?

Thanks in advance.

Judy
S/Y Security
SM2 #387


Re: Amel Insurance

jrjrjrouse2000 <judyrouse@...>
 

John,
I'm surprised that you were even able to get a quote from Pantaenius
to keep the boat in Texas gulf coast year round. Last summer the
Pantaenius US branch told us that they would not even write a policy
covering a boat that would be within the hurricane box during season.

I obtained quotes from several companies for 400k & 430k hull values.
All of them actually were writing the same policy -- from Great Lakes
Reins (UK)PLC, except for IMIS Al Golden. IMIS writes the Jackline
Policy, which is the only insurance company that is US and would be
under the jurisdiction of US legal system. The Great Lakes policy
does not fall within the jurisdiction of US legal system should you
ever have a serious problem with them.

American Marine Insurance Services $6290 for 400k hull and 500k
liability; no coverage if within hurricane box during season. This
was also the same Great Lakes reinsurance policy. That policy has
huge (20%) depreciation clauses, so read it carefully if you go that
route.

C.A. Hansen in Ft. Lauderdale $6315 for 400k hull and 1M liability;
same Great Lakes policy.

Bluewater Ins would not quote that high a hull value; they limited to
350k.

I obtained several other quotes, but those are on my computer and are
not accessible at this time for me to share with you. (I am using a
friend's laptop to write this message) But all the quotes were within
the same price range.

We wrote with Al Golden at IMIS with the Jackline Policy. $5521 for
400k hull and 1M liability with the tender deductible reduced to 1k
deductible. Windstorm is not covered if we are within hurricane box
during season, but all other coverage still applies even if we are in
hurricane zone. No other policy offered this.

Judy
S/Y Security
SM2 #387



johnabo2003 <no_reply@y...> wrote:

As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the quote
I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of
$420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Insurance

dlm48@...
 

In a message dated 31/01/2006 20:19:41 GMT Standard Time,
judyrouse@houston.rr.com writes:

We wrote with Al Golden at IMIS with the Jackline Policy. $5521 for
400k hull and 1M liability with the tender deductible reduced to 1k
deductible. Windstorm is not covered if we are within hurricane box
during season, but all other coverage still applies even if we are in
hurricane zone. No other policy offered this.

Judy
S/Y Security
SM2 #387



i did advise IMIS and Al Judy as i was sure that was where you got your best
quote from -
are you still in the VI's or home in TX?

regards

David


Sailing amonst coral reefs

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

We spent five years in the South Pacific 1995/2000. Luckily this
period saw the start of the GPS era which made a huge difference to
safety. I have just read the Ocean Navigator article which Richard
has posted and would agree that currents are a big danger for the
unwary.
The prevailing winds and currents make it very difficult to
backtrack eastwards and can and do cause boats to be wrecked
especially at night whilst waiting for daylight to enter an atoll or
whilst anchored insecurely. During our time out there we heard of
several yachts had broken anchor winches as a result of anchoring in
atolls without realising that the bottom has many mushroom shaped
pillars of coral which the Aussies call bommies.
A boat is anchored facing the prevailing trade wind and current.
However at night the wind and/or current may drop or change
direction which causes the boat to drift around which may wind the
chain around one of these. After a few days this may take up all the
slack in the chain and thus if the wind and waves build up the winch
is damaged or perhaps a cleat is ripped out of the deck. This
happened to us but luckily we realised it and avoided damage by
letting out more chain and then putting out another anchor so that
we could let out more chain and then scubad down about 60 feet and
unwound the chain which was twice around a bommy. Many years ago
mariners used to bouy their chain with bamboo logs so that rose more
or less vertically and was in a series of loops between logs to
avoid this problem. We used fenders from then on. Perhaps a stern
anchor would also work.
We had an Echopilot forward looking echosounder which was good and
bad. It worked very well for motoring very slowly around coral areas
but was pretty well useless with flat bottoms, especially soft ones.
This was because the echos were not reflected. I suspect that the
other make would suffer th same effects. One thing that we did with
it occasionally was to turn the transducer around slowly after
anchoring to see whether there were any nasties on either side. The
defects in the Echopilot were that the LCD is polarised at 90degrees
to polarised sunglasses and thus the screen appears black until you
put your eyes at 90 degrees to the vertical!Also the screen goes
blank if subjected to direct sunlight/heat.
If we were doing the trip again we would carry extra fuel pobably in
plastic containers stored in the locker in the deck on the port side
which would put weight in the right place for the prevailing trades.
We had a spare Whale Gulper elctric pump which we used to move fuel
from the two 100 litre containers which were lashed to the mast and
granny bars on our boat which was an Oyster 435.
We enjoyed great hospitality from the Polynesians where ever we went
and in retrospect we should have taken gifts such as masks and fins
and other things for these people who cannot buy them locally even
if they had the money. Some places have so called yacht clubs that
we were invited to join....we should have done so as it is a
comfortable way of giving them money. Also most places have a dire
shortage of fresh water and if you have a good water maker I am sure
some water would be appreciated by these gentle folk.
There is a great website being produced by a young American couple
recording their experiences cruising the
Pacific...www.sailwhisper.com A free and easy to use site is
available from www.getjealous.com This site was set up by George
who is a friend of the young couple who bought my Oyster and you can
see their voyage at www.jasonandfiona.com They got as far as
Panama from the UK when Jason developed a brain tumour and had to
fly back to the UK for treatment oover a year ago.They had a
delivery crew bring the boat back and they are now living on it in
Poplar Docks in East London whilst, I imagine, he is still under
treatment.
If you only have one rudder drive I highly recommend taking a set of
spare brushes and gears for it. Such thing are not available before
getting to NZ or OZ and possibly not even there as
Raymarine/Autohelm change the motor suppliers from time to time and
stop stocking spares. In Fiji my drive stopped working reporting no
power on the control.When I opened up the motor it was full of
carbon dust from the badly worn brushes.None were available from
Aussie agents and Raymarine UK told me they had none as they had
switched suppliers not even giving me a contact for the previous
suppliers. Luckily the previous owner had left a set in the stores
otherwise I suppose one would have to make some from larger brushes
if found!
Any questions?

Regards, Anne and John SM 319


Thanks to all group participants

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi,
Just catching up on several of the group discussions after being on a
business trip for a few days. I am very impressed at the good
information that is exchanged here, and the willingness of members to
share their knowledge, experience and insight with others.
Thanks to all who participate, and thanks to Yahoo and the internet,
that makes this exchange of knowledge possible!

Roy, SM Excalibur#195


Polytrol- for deck refinishing in the USA

eric freedman
 

_____

From: Jackie Kough [mailto:jkough@flood.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:33 AM
To: eric
Cc: John Milner
Subject: RE: [WDIYC] Product Information Request - "Flood Company/Owatrol
International"



Dear Eric,



There is no difference. The Polytrol is an international name for the same
product and is manufactured outside the US. The GlasWorks has specific
instructions for fiberglass restoration. The one thing to keep in mind as
you start your project is to first thoroughly clean the deck for best
results. I recommend our DeckWorks for the cleaning.



If you have any questions please let me know. I can also have our product
manager for the Marine line help if needed.



Jackie

Dear Eric,



I recommend the Flood Marine product, GlasWorks. It is a deep-penetrating
oil the reaches down into the fiberglass and pulls the original color out
and dries to a tough, flexible finish. GlasWorks is long-lasting because it
penetrates deep into fiberglass, unlike waxes and polishes that sit on the
surface and dry out quickly.



Unfortunately, I didn't have someone in your immediate area, however Mid
Ohio Watersports currently stocks the Marine line. E-mail is
floyd@midohiowatersports.com or phone is 330-626-9115.



If you have any other questions, please let me know.



Jackie


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks for the information from everybody. I will contact the
recommendations and hopefully get a more realistic quote.

Regards
John
-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote:

Spencer Lloyd was recommended to me by Joel Potter.
My premium is about 1/3 of yours for a 2002 Amel Super Maramu #376
Kimberlite
My cruising limits are east coast USA to Brownsville Texas, and the
Caribbean to 7 degrees north including passages between N.Y. and
the
Caribbean.. Drop Spencer Lloyd a note and get a quote.
Mention my name.
Fair Winds,
Eric Freedman
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Spencer's E-mail AWEICHER@B...


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@a...
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: 26 January 2006 16:30
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance


As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the
quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of
$420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates
for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie

Al Golden is your man.

Title:
Al Golden's International Marine Insurance URL:
_http://imiscorp.net/_ (http://imiscorp.net/) Description:
International Marine Insurance Services is the source of choice for
insurance
coverage for your watercraft. After twelve years of incomparable
service to

our clientele, we'd like to welcome
you aboard!

What's in a name? International Marine Insurance Services is not
only our
name, it's a creed by which we operate. Each word defines an
important part
of
our ability to provide you with the
best possible protection with a minimum of cost and concern...

regards

David







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

dlm48@...
 

In a message dated 27/01/2006 15:38:15 GMT Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

Thanks for the information from everybody. I will contact the
recommendations and hopefully get a more realistic quote.

Regards
John



AND let us know how you get on please spill the beans on the quotes you get

regards

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

eric freedman
 

Spencer Lloyd was recommended to me by Joel Potter.
My premium is about 1/3 of yours for a 2002 Amel Super Maramu #376
Kimberlite
My cruising limits are east coast USA to Brownsville Texas, and the
Caribbean to 7 degrees north including passages between N.Y. and the
Caribbean.. Drop Spencer Lloyd a note and get a quote.
Mention my name.
Fair Winds,
Eric Freedman
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Spencer's E-mail AWEICHER@BBFTLAUD.COM

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: 26 January 2006 16:30
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance


As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of $420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie

Al Golden is your man.

Title:
Al Golden's International Marine Insurance URL:
_http://imiscorp.net/_ (http://imiscorp.net/) Description:
International Marine Insurance Services is the source of choice for
insurance
coverage for your watercraft. After twelve years of incomparable service to

our clientele, we'd like to welcome
you aboard!

What's in a name? International Marine Insurance Services is not only our
name, it's a creed by which we operate. Each word defines an important part
of
our ability to provide you with the
best possible protection with a minimum of cost and concern...

regards

David












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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

The quote was for $16,327
Navagation limits were: Confined to Gulf coast and inland tributary
of the United States between Carrabelle Florida and Brownsville Texas

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote:

What was the price of the policy and the navigation limits?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the
quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of
$420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

Horst Pause <horst@...>
 

Try Max Burgess Yachtmaster Insurance
[enquiries@yachtmasterinsurance.co.uk], I found them to be the most
suitable.

Horst
Maramu "Puddleduck"

________________________________

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: 26 January 2006 16:30
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance


As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of $420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

eric freedman
 

What was the price of the policy and the navigation limits?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of $420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie






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Amel Insurance

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of $420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance

dlm48@...
 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnabo2003
Sent: 26 January 2006 16:30
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Insurance


As a potential Amel Super Maramu owner I was horrified by the quote I
received from Pantaenius to keep an Amel with a hull value of $420,000
in the Texas Gulf coast.

Can anybody recommend an insurer that provides reasonable rates for
fair coverage - or a broker who provides good service?

Regards
John Abercrombie

Al Golden is your man.

Title:
Al Golden's International Marine Insurance URL:
_http://imiscorp.net/_ (http://imiscorp.net/) Description:
International Marine Insurance Services is the source of choice for insurance
coverage for your watercraft. After twelve years of incomparable service to
our clientele, we'd like to welcome
you aboard!

What's in a name? International Marine Insurance Services is not only our
name, it's a creed by which we operate. Each word defines an important part of
our ability to provide you with the
best possible protection with a minimum of cost and concern...

regards

David


Re: Amel Santorin

joseph mc donnell
 

As a member of a small cruising club looking at the possibility of buying an Amel Santorin as a replacement for a Beneteau 361. Some members have raised a number of questions that I hope that members of the Amel owners association can help me with, namely
1. Has anyone replaced a Perkins Prima M50 and if they have with what type of engine
2. Are there any problems with osmosis with santorins
3. The leak from the bow thruster seems to be a common problem has it ever proved catastrophic and has it been rectified .
Having sailed on a Santorin, I found that the versatility and quality of the boat, most suited our club, and with what I have read on this site has just re- inforced
my belief that the Santorin is the way to go for my club.
Thanks
Joe


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Re: some questions--sailing among coral reef atolls

Zanareva
 

Mark,

My wife and I cruised thru the South Pacific from 1985 thru 1987
(not on our Amel but our first sailboat which was a 37' Searunner
trimaran). I believe that to navigate successfully among the coral
heads you'll have to rely mainly on your eyeballs. Since the waters
will be very clear, getting a bit aloft in the rig would be great.
Here are also a couple of other points to consider:
1. Have polarized sunglasses on to help see thru the glare of the
water surface.
2. Time your entrance thru the reef pass so that the sun is high
overhead, or even better, when the sun is bit behind you. Also
applies to traveling inside the lagoons.
3. Glassly or calm seas make it pretty hard to see what's below the
surface.
4. Atolls with passes on their east side may be especially dangerous
due to the unimpeded ocean swells hitting the outgoing tidal stream.
You may want to pick the islands/atolls that have entrances on the
northern or western side for an easier go. For example, Raiora in
the Tuamotus was easy as was Suvarov in the Cooks.
5. Time your entrance with the tide to minimize the ebb current flow
you'll be fighting at the pass. I don't think many (if any) atolls
have flood tides--just varying strengths of ebb tides.
6. Remember that if the water ahead of you is brownish (it's a coral
head) then expect to see less than 3 feet of water.
7. I have uploaded in the FILES section an article from an old Ocean
Navigator that covers coral reef navigation.

We saw no shortage of wind anywhere in the Pacific (other than off
the Mexican mainland coast in winter). I don't think you'll have to
worry about motoring across!

Best regards,
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"


Re: some questions

edmund_steele
 

Mark,
My wife and I used an improvised rope ladder attached to the
starboard shrouds, to enable the reef watcher to stand on the
reinforcing bar for the bracket that holds the ballooner poles. This
worked reasonably well and gets the watcher 8 feet or so above the
deck.

I was concerned about reports that it might be necessary to motor
from Panama to Galapagos and decided to carry an extra 100 gallons of
diesel in 20 of 5 gallon "Jerry" jugs. They were cheap to buy from
West Marine. We initially stowed 8 jugs in the stern locker with 12
lashed on deck – 6 on each side at the stern. We never did need all
of this fuel and gave away 8 of the jugs in the Marquise Islands. We
now typically stow 10 jugs in the stern locker with two on deck and
we throw these two into the stern locker as soon as they are emptied.
Most refueling in the South Pacific was by dinghy and Jerry Jug -
making bladder use problematic. We found that 5 gallon Jugs are
reasonably easy to handle in and out of a dinghy by one person. Two
additional advantages are 1) you can see what quantity of fuel you
are receiving (the Jugs are marked in both gallons and liters)
instead of trusting the supplier and 2) You can filter every drop of
fuel going into the main tank. If you purchase the large size Baja
filter from West Marine, it fits exactly into the fuel filler on the
SM and rests stably on the mizzen deck. We found it very simple to
refuel at sea by sitting on the starboard cockpit bench and pouring
the fuel directly into the Baja filter with the Jerry jug held in the
lap. No siphons etc. No spilled fuel. Refuel in a seaway.
Ed Steele
S/V DoodleBug SM#331

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@b...>
wrote:

In preparing my ASM for a multi-year voyage next year, I am hoping
that other owners can offer me advice on a number of issues:

1. My wife an I will need to look out for coral heads when entering
South Pacific islands. What is the best way to get a few feet above
the deck in order to have better visibility? Are mast steps up 10
feet or so a good way to get the needed visibility? Do foldable
mast
steps pose any structural or safety issue with the Amel main mast?
Are rat lines a good option?

2. Another way to spot coral heads is to install sonar. The
transducers seem very large for most forward looking sonars such as
EchoPilot and Interphase? What do these transducer do to sailing
performance on the Amel Super Maramu? Are the sonars practically
useful for finding one's way in coral fringed islands?

3. I would like to add some fuel capacity for ocean crossing. I am
thinking about strapping a 100 gallon bladder tank to the roof aft
of
the mizzen. Once across the ocean, I would roll the tank up and
store
it in a locker. Has anyone had any experience with bladder tanks
(such as those made by ATL or Nauta)? Is there some reason that
this
would be a bad idea? Would there ne a lot of fuel sloshing noise?

4. Has anyone used AGM batteries in an ASM? Is there any issue
with
charge regulation with AGMs in a newer (2003) ASM?

Mark
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419