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SM Bilge Pump indicator light

Ian Shepherd
 

Has anyone replaced the bilge pump operating light on the SM 24V panel? It looks a little tricky to get out. Does the bulb come out of it's holder by twisting or bayonet action, or is it a hard wired pea bulb? Any info might save unnecessary trouble before removing the circuit breakers nearby to gain access to the back of the lamp. An LED replacement would be for the better I think if the whole lamp unit needs to be replaced.

Happy New Year to all.

Ian Shepherd SM 2K 414 Crusader (2003) Cyprus


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Gary

Our boat #332 was on the production line just 3 ahead of yours in 2001 so we would be most appreciative to get the final detailed list of all rigging parts to order for complete replacement too once you have it done and your new rigging is successfully installed. We will probably use it to place precisely the same order in to re-rig Island Pearl II and would be most interested to hear how you went about it as we are hoping to be able to replace all rigging without dropping the masts but rather replacing one part at a time if that were possible.

We have used some of your past information posted on this site in the past and found it beautifully detailed, accurate and easy to follow so thank you very much for helping others on this site out in this way again. It has been greatly appreciated.

Fair winds
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM#332
Brisbane, Australia

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 8:19 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Gary,

Did you get left hand or right hand thread turnbuckles?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Dec 27, 2014 12:34 PM, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello to all contributors to this forum:


I am headed to Antigua in a few days to install all new standing rigging on my Hulll #335 SM, built 2001.  I purchased the entire replacement rigging, right down to the clevis pins, from ACMO (Sylvie was extremely helpful) and it was air freighted from France to Antigua (3 days enroute, a week to clear customs and make its way to my boat).


I have been pursuing this forum for specifications on items I will need and thus far find the following:


Top Swivel Specifications: Torlon 10 mm ball bearings. (actual diameter on the Harken web site of 9.5 mm)  - Quantity:  26 balls per row, times two rows (total 52 balls) for the swivel at the head of jib sail foil.


Rivets for jib foil extrusion to furling motor swivel (the grooved cast swivel that engages the furling motor gearbox via a latching pin):  As I have searched this site I see that Joel Potter ind icates that Amel used Monel (also known as stainless steel) rivets.  I could not find that anyone posted the size of these rivets (both diameter and length).  Quantity required:  8


NEED TO KNOW:  Diameter and Length of these Monel rivets


If there are other specifications related to this job please chime in and I will compile them into a document that can be placed in the files section.  This hopefully will save members having to endure the cumbersome search that I just went through. 


Best to all, 


Gary Silver

s/v Liahona




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Left Hand or Right Hand Thread Standing Rigging Turnbuckles

ESTELLER
 

Olivier, thanks a lot for your exposure, very interesting!

 

What is about the AMEL 54?

 

Cordialement

 

José Esteller

Expert près la Cour d'Appel de Montpellier (H)

Expert près la Cour Administrative d'Appel de Marseille

Professeur à l'Institut de la Construction et l'Habitat (ICH)

Tel +33467844519 Fax +33467844521

jose.esteller@...

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Monel is not stainless steel

karkauai
 

Good idea Gary.
Jib Furler Foil
*Jib Furler Gearbox
*Jib Sailhead Swivel
*Jib Sailhead Whiskers works for me
*Manual Jib Furler

Kent
SM243
Kristy




On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:31 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Hi Eric:  


Great information on Monel.  I had always thought Monel was a type of stainless steel but you are completely correct, it is not (according to wikipedia).  Thanks for that contribution.  I would guess that Monel would provide medium strength in shear between that of steel and that of aluminum but will have do some more looking.  Since there were posts about aluminum rivets failing under normal loads I am going to try and locate the 1/4th inch diameter (6.4 mm) x 19 mm Monel rivets suggested.  Also, as I researched this issue on this forum there was a post by Joel Potter stating that Amel used Monel rivets on the foil junction with the grooved manual furling ring (we really need to give a uniform part name to this part of the rig because it has been called so many things on this forum that I don't know what to call it).  Nominations for part names for the jib furling apparatus are now open.

I nominate:

1.  Foil Extrusion - for the aluminum extrusion with the three grooves for the jib, ballooner, and un-latching mouse.

2.  Jib Furling Gear Box is my nomination for the item that attaches to the Jib Furling Motor (Housing).

3.  Jib Sail-Head Swivel is my nomination for the rotating assembly that the jib halyard attaches to.  We need an official name for the "wiskers" that extend from this device.  Suggestions?

What shall we call the grooved manual furling item into which the Foil Extrusion is seated?  

Also we need a name for the engaging pin that locks the "manual jib furling casting" to the furling gearbox. 
 
At the top of the Foil Extrusion there is a plastic or other plastic like material cap that is riveted to the foil extrusion.  The forestay penetrates this cap and it provides a bushing like effect for the the Foil Extrusion at the masthead.

We probably need a name for the item that supports the jib furling motor-gearbox----- assembly. 

Please chime in everyone with suggestions.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona




Re: Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Olivier, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year:  So good to hear from you.  I trust all is well with you and your family.

Thank you for your reply.  The information you offered is so valuable to Amel owners, I have copied your reply and posted it as a reply to my original message so that a search for any of the key words will lead members to your reply. 

Thanks again for sharing your expertise.  

Can you offer your thoughts on the type of rivet, Monel or aluminum, used by Amel to attach the jib furling foil extrusion tube to the groved manual swivel fitting that engages the jib furling motor?   Joel had mentioned that Amel used Monel rivets, but others have reported that they were provided Aluminum rivets for this position.  

Monel 6.4 mm x 19 mm rivets seem not to be available here in the USA, but aluminum rivets of that size are available in the USA.  The aluminum rivets have a shear strength of 600 lbs each and there are eight of them.  That would be a total shear strength of 4,800 lbs.  I don't have any idea what kind of loads are imposed on the junction.  Thoughts?

All the best to you Olivier, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona   Amel SM 335  delivered to our family by yourself July 2001 at La Rochelle.  That was the year the music festival was canceled because of heavy rains.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Alexandre
Very helpful when I am 2000 miles from my boat...
I now know what part numbers to get...
I found a place in Germany that has them, also Guadeloupe and Netherlands, but nobody in my part of the world.

Best regards
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: Left Hand or Right Hand Thread Standing Rigging Turnbuckles

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Good afternoon,

when AMEL decided to make their own masts, they worked together with NIRVANA.
When NIRVANA went bankrupt, AMEL decided to supervise the whole process:
-have alu profiles made in switzerland
-have the profiles worked out and welded from a subcontractor in La Rochelle
-have the masts painted at another subcontractor's in La Rochelle
-equip the masts at the shipyard with AMEL own designed furlers
-rig the masts with shrouds available on the market

The first suppliers were SARMA, a cable manufacturer that worked mainly for aircrafts. SARMA was used to make left hand turnbuckles and there was no question from AMEL against that.
The last Mangos, Sharkis and Maramus were rigged with SARMA products.
The first SMs (1989) were rigged with SARMA products, but the first SANTORINS were rigged with ACMO and SOROMAP products.
When AMEL asked ACMO and SOROMAP to make riggings, they wanted to have left hand turnbuckles, to avoid having both kinds.
When SARMA stopped supplying AMEL, AMEL asked ACMO to make the SM riggings, according to the same standards, which means here left hand turnbuckles.

A little pause: For someone who has already set a rigging on a Super Maramu (I did), and who is right handed (I am), it is easier to do on a left hand turn buckle (why???).
Indeed, you hold the cable terminal with a wrench with your left hand, and you turn the buckle with your right hand with a second wrench, and you move it out of the buckle to take it on the other half, and you turn, and you etc...
And it is easier to apply a big force towards your body, than outwards.
When, later on, I had to set riggings with right hand turn buckles, I first pushed hard outwards with my right hand, and eventually, I started to use my left hand (holding tight the cable's terminal with my right hand and turn the buckle with my left hand).

Back to the story:
Around 2004, I don't remember exactly, AMEL realized that ACMO made left hand turnbuckles almost only for them, and that a right hand turnbuckle would be cheaper. AMEL then installed right hand turnbuckles.

When you change your standing rigging, you may not want to change the turnbuckles because they are easier to inspect than the Inside of the swages. If you have a left hand system, keep it and specify this when you order.
However, it may be good to replace the turnbuckles too: after a dismasting, for instance after a collision that broke one turnbuckle (and dismasting), the surveyor (if he's good) will notice that the turnbuckles are older than the replaced rigging, and the insurers may refuse compensation.

Conclusion:
there is no specific reason why AMEL had left hand turnbuckles, and now right hand ones (except cost cuts).
You may replace your left hand rigging with a right hand one.

The 2004/2005 SM owners will tell us which hull number has a right hand system and which has a left one...

Best wishes for the end of this year!!

Olivier BEAUTE


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

very interesting Terry…

Here is a link to some pictures I took a couple of weeks ago regarding my 24 and 220 Volt panel and the disruptors.

http://nikimat.com/diruptor_220_volt_panel.html

http://nikimat.com/diruptor_24_volt_panel.html

Would be curious to know what other have…

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sun, 12/28/14, TERENCE SINGH terencesingh@me.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 9:32 AM


 









Alexandre, it
is interesting that you have two types of Diruptor circuit
breakers on Nikimat. Libby (built in 1997) has the same
style for both AC and DC circuits. I have looked at both in
detail and the part numbers are identical.  They are
all 71222/104 and are single pole. They vary from 6A
to 16A values. Just an
observation.Terry.

Sent
from my iPad
On Dec 28,
2014, at 4:41 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Good morning Alan,



I am on the boat then will run some errands, recently wrote
down the amp for each of the breakers.

All the Diruptor in the 220 Volt panel are bipolar.

All the ones for the 24 Volt panel are unipolar.

I can give you the amperage of what is on my boat (which is
a lot older than yours).

They are other Diruptor all around that I have not write
down the amperage (fan for the stove, various places for the
winches, windlass, etc.). May be Bill has wrote down the
specs.



Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289

NIKIMAT

in repair at Fort Lauderdale, USA.



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On Sun, 12/28/14, divanz620@yahoo.fr
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit
breakers

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 5:33 AM





 



















Hi Alexandre and Bill,From what you say

here, are the A/C Diruptor circuit breakers bipolar

??I am not near the boat so I cannot

check....

ThanksAlan SV

Elyse SM437



















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

TERENCE SINGH <terencesingh@...>
 

Alexandre, it is interesting that you have two types of Diruptor circuit breakers on Nikimat. Libby (built in 1997) has the same style for both AC and DC circuits. I have looked at both in detail and the part numbers are identical.  They are all 71222/104 and are single pole. They vary from 6A to 16A values. 
Just an observation.
Terry.



On Dec 28, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Alan,

I am on the boat then will run some errands, recently wrote down the amp for each of the breakers.
All the Diruptor in the 220 Volt panel are bipolar.
All the ones for the 24 Volt panel are unipolar.
I can give you the amperage of what is on my boat (which is a lot older than yours).
They are other Diruptor all around that I have not write down the amperage (fan for the stove, various places for the winches, windlass, etc.). May be Bill has wrote down the specs.

Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289
NIKIMAT
in repair at Fort Lauderdale, USA.

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On Sun, 12/28/14, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 5:33 AM


 









Hi Alexandre and Bill,From what you say
here, are the A/C Diruptor circuit breakers bipolar
??I am not near the boat so I cannot
check....
ThanksAlan SV
Elyse SM437









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

karkauai
 

Merci beaucoup for the history lesson, Olivier.  As usual, Mssr Amel had a good reason for the L hand turnbuckles (can we assume he was right-handed?).  So now it's a matter of each owner deciding if that advantage is worth the extra cost.  That choice should not influence resale value.

Thanks again,
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon,

when AMEL decided to make their own masts, they worked together with NIRVANA.
When NIRVANA went bankrupt, AMEL decided to supervise the whole process:
-have alu profiles made in switzerland
-have the profiles worked out and welded from a subcontractor in La Rochelle
-have the masts painted at another subcontractor's in La Rochelle
-equip the masts at the shipyard with AMEL own designed furlers
-rig the masts with shrouds available on the market

The first suppliers were SARMA, a cable manufacturer that worked mainly for aircrafts. SARMA was used to make left hand turnbuckles and there was no question from AMEL against that.
The last Mangos, Sharkis and Maramus were rigged with SARMA products.
The first SMs (1989) were rigged with SARMA products, but the first SANTORINS were rigged with ACMO and SOROMAP products.
When AMEL asked ACMO and SOROMAP to make riggings, they wanted to have left hand turnbuckles, to avoid having both kinds.
When SARMA stopped supplying AMEL, AMEL asked ACMO to make the SM riggings, according to the same standards, which means here left hand turnbuckles.

A little pause: For someone who has already set a rigging on a Super Maramu (I did), and who is right handed (I am), it is easier to do on a left hand turn buckle (why???).
Indeed, you hold the cable terminal with a wrench with your left hand, and you turn the buckle with your right hand with a second wrench, and you move it out of the buckle to take it on the other half, and you turn, and you etc...
And it is easier to apply a big force towards your body, than outwards.
When, later on, I had to set riggings with right hand turn buckles, I first pushed hard outwards with my right hand, and eventually, I started to use my left hand (holding tight the cable's terminal with my right hand and turn the buckle with my left hand).

Back to the story:
Around 2004, I don't remember exactly, AMEL realized that ACMO made left hand turnbuckles almost only for them, and that a right hand turnbuckle would be cheaper. AMEL then installed right hand turnbuckles.

When you change your standing rigging, you may not want to change the turnbuckles because they are easier to inspect than the Inside of the swages. If you have a left hand system, keep it and specify this when you order.
However, it may be good to replace the turnbuckles too: after a dismasting, for instance after a collision that broke one turnbuckle (and dismasting), the surveyor (if he's good) will notice that the turnbuckles are older than the replaced rigging, and the insurers may refuse compensation.

Conclusion:
there is no specific reason why AMEL had left hand turnbuckles, and now right hand ones (except cost cuts).
You may replace your left hand rigging with a right hand one.

The 2004/2005 SM owners will tell us which hull number has a right hand system and which has a left one...

Best wishes for the end of this year!!

Olivier BEAUTE


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Olivier Beaute
 

Good afternoon,

when AMEL decided to make their own masts, they worked together with NIRVANA.
When NIRVANA went bankrupt, AMEL decided to supervise the whole process:
-have alu profiles made in switzerland
-have the profiles worked out and welded from a subcontractor in La Rochelle
-have the masts painted at another subcontractor's in La Rochelle
-equip the masts at the shipyard with AMEL own designed furlers
-rig the masts with shrouds available on the market

The first suppliers were SARMA, a cable manufacturer that worked mainly for aircrafts. SARMA was used to make left hand turnbuckles and there was no question from AMEL against that.
The last Mangos, Sharkis and Maramus were rigged with SARMA products.
The first SMs (1989) were rigged with SARMA products, but the first SANTORINS were rigged with ACMO and SOROMAP products.
When AMEL asked ACMO and SOROMAP to make riggings, they wanted to have left hand turnbuckles, to avoid having both kinds.
When SARMA stopped supplying AMEL, AMEL asked ACMO to make the SM riggings, according to the same standards, which means here left hand turnbuckles.

A little pause: For someone who has already set a rigging on a Super Maramu (I did), and who is right handed (I am), it is easier to do on a left hand turn buckle (why???).
Indeed, you hold the cable terminal with a wrench with your left hand, and you turn the buckle with your right hand with a second wrench, and you move it out of the buckle to take it on the other half, and you turn, and you etc...
And it is easier to apply a big force towards your body, than outwards.
When, later on, I had to set riggings with right hand turn buckles, I first pushed hard outwards with my right hand, and eventually, I started to use my left hand (holding tight the cable's terminal with my right hand and turn the buckle with my left hand).

Back to the story:
Around 2004, I don't remember exactly, AMEL realized that ACMO made left hand turnbuckles almost only for them, and that a right hand turnbuckle would be cheaper. AMEL then installed right hand turnbuckles.

When you change your standing rigging, you may not want to change the turnbuckles because they are easier to inspect than the Inside of the swages. If you have a left hand system, keep it and specify this when you order.
However, it may be good to replace the turnbuckles too: after a dismasting, for instance after a collision that broke one turnbuckle (and dismasting), the surveyor (if he's good) will notice that the turnbuckles are older than the replaced rigging, and the insurers may refuse compensation.

Conclusion:
there is no specific reason why AMEL had left hand turnbuckles, and now right hand ones (except cost cuts).
You may replace your left hand rigging with a right hand one.

The 2004/2005 SM owners will tell us which hull number has a right hand system and which has a left one...

Best wishes for the end of this year!!

Olivier BEAUTE


Getting Together / Active Captain

karkauai
 

I didn't know that the rivets had failed under normal loads.  I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about aluminum vs Monel.  Twice the shearing strength is quite a difference.

As to our plans for this year:
It depends on when the CDrive is delivered and we can actually splash the boat.  I think we will go South to Key West, then Turks and Caicos, then North thru the Bahamas.  I would like to be in Maine be July.  Then will go back South to the Western Caribbean for 2-3 years.
I haven't done it yet, but on Active Captain we could share our locations and know who is close by where ever we are.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Dec 28, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We use the aluminium since we want the rivets to brake before any other damages. If we remeber right, the first rivets was ordered from Amel and they were aluminium. They are easy to replace if you have the tool onboard. Which we recomend you to have!

Are you continuing south after your mast replacement? We will go slowly north grom Grenada to St Martin. Leaving St Martin for Europe in Mid late April, if you want to meet, which would be nice! Just look for the Amel SM With the swedish flag and a yellow dinghy on aft deck.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM232

Skickat från min iPad

27 dec 2014 kl. 22:56 skrev "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi, Ann-Sophie,
I don't remember where I read it, but someone on this forum a few years ago (I think) said that the rivets were aluminum, and by design would break before the foil was damaged if something got stuck at the top of the mast.  I am about to remount my jib furler and was going to use aluminum rivets.

Does anyone remember this?  Olivier?  Joel?

Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Still on the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL awaiting my new C-drive from Amel...to be shipped after Jan 1.


From: "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

 
Hi Gary
I don't remember the exact amont of ball bearing for the swivel, but if you look in the document in the Files section it specified there. I would also recommend you to replace the GRP tube that also os mentioned in the document. 

The rivets has the size of 6,4 x19 mm 

Best regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM 232 from 1998.

Skickat från min iPad

27 dec 2014 kl. 14:34 skrev "amelliahona" <no_reply@...>:

 
Hello to all contributors to this forum:

I am headed to Antigua in a few days to install all new standing rigging on my Hulll #335 SM, built 2001.  I purchased the entire replacement rigging, right down to the clevis pins, from ACMO (Sylvie was extremely helpful) and it was air freighted from France to Antigua (3 days enroute, a week to clear customs and make its way to my boat).

I have been pursuing this forum for specifications on items I will need and thus far find the following:

Top Swivel Specifications: Torlon 10 mm ball bearings. (actual diameter on the Harken web site of 9.5 mm)  - Quantity:  26 balls per row, times two rows (total 52 balls) for the swivel at the head of jib sail foil.

Rivets for jib foil extrusion to furling motor swivel (the grooved cast swivel that engages the furling motor gearbox via a latching pin):  As I have searched this site I see that Joel Potter indicates that Amel used Monel (also known as stainless steel) rivets.  I could not find that anyone posted the size of these rivets (both diameter and length).  Quantity required:  8

NEED TO KNOW:  Diameter and Length of these Monel rivets

If there are other specifications related to this job please chime in and I will compile them into a document that can be placed in the files section.  This hopefully will save members having to endure the cumbersome search that I just went through. 

Best to all, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We use the aluminium since we want the rivets to brake before any other damages. If we remeber right, the first rivets was ordered from Amel and they were aluminium. They are easy to replace if you have the tool onboard. Which we recomend you to have!

Are you continuing south after your mast replacement? We will go slowly north grom Grenada to St Martin. Leaving St Martin for Europe in Mid late April, if you want to meet, which would be nice! Just look for the Amel SM With the swedish flag and a yellow dinghy on aft deck.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM232

Skickat från min iPad

27 dec 2014 kl. 22:56 skrev "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi, Ann-Sophie,
I don't remember where I read it, but someone on this forum a few years ago (I think) said that the rivets were aluminum, and by design would break before the foil was damaged if something got stuck at the top of the mast.  I am about to remount my jib furler and was going to use aluminum rivets.

Does anyone remember this?  Olivier?  Joel?

Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Still on the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL awaiting my new C-drive from Amel...to be shipped after Jan 1.


From: "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

 
Hi Gary
I don't remember the exact amont of ball bearing for the swivel, but if you look in the document in the Files section it specified there. I would also recommend you to replace the GRP tube that also os mentioned in the document. 

The rivets has the size of 6,4 x19 mm 

Best regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM 232 from 1998.

Skickat från min iPad

27 dec 2014 kl. 14:34 skrev "amelliahona" <no_reply@...>:

 
Hello to all contributors to this forum:

I am headed to Antigua in a few days to install all new standing rigging on my Hulll #335 SM, built 2001.  I purchased the entire replacement rigging, right down to the clevis pins, from ACMO (Sylvie was extremely helpful) and it was air freighted from France to Antigua (3 days enroute, a week to clear customs and make its way to my boat).

I have been pursuing this forum for specifications on items I will need and thus far find the following:

Top Swivel Specifications: Torlon 10 mm ball bearings. (actual diameter on the Harken web site of 9.5 mm)  - Quantity:  26 balls per row, times two rows (total 52 balls) for the swivel at the head of jib sail foil.

Rivets for jib foil extrusion to furling motor swivel (the grooved cast swivel that engages the furling motor gearbox via a latching pin):  As I have searched this site I see that Joel Potter indicates that Amel used Monel (also known as stainless steel) rivets.  I could not find that anyone posted the size of these rivets (both diameter and length).  Quantity required:  8

NEED TO KNOW:  Diameter and Length of these Monel rivets

If there are other specifications related to this job please chime in and I will compile them into a document that can be placed in the files section.  This hopefully will save members having to endure the cumbersome search that I just went through. 

Best to all, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Alan,

I am on the boat then will run some errands, recently wrote down the amp for each of the breakers.
All the Diruptor in the 220 Volt panel are bipolar.
All the ones for the 24 Volt panel are unipolar.
I can give you the amperage of what is on my boat (which is a lot older than yours).
They are other Diruptor all around that I have not write down the amperage (fan for the stove, various places for the winches, windlass, etc.). May be Bill has wrote down the specs.

Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289
NIKIMAT
in repair at Fort Lauderdale, USA.


--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 12/28/14, divanz620@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2014, 5:33 AM


 









Hi Alexandre and Bill,From what you say
here, are the A/C Diruptor circuit breakers bipolar
??I am not near the boat so I cannot
check....
ThanksAlan SV
Elyse SM437









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Alexandre and Bill,
From what you say here, are the A/C Diruptor circuit breakers bipolar ??
I am not near the boat so I cannot check....

Thanks
Alan 
SV Elyse SM437


Re: Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Alan Leslie
 

Bonjour Olivier,'I can read this message but never saw the message from you about "left hand turnbuckles"...I would be very interested to know what you have to say...our rig is now 10yrs old....
Cheers
Alan 
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

As always thanks for your email.
This happened over a year ago, and I think in my case it was because the strainer was clogged and the air compressor pulling too much, as it never happened again.


Hello Terry,

I purchased both uni=polaire and bi-polaire from Amel.


Differently so happy the bow thruster is working again!!!
Received the sensors from Amel, replaced the defective one and now back to normal !!!

Have a great day, sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 12/27/14, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2014, 7:24 PM


 









Alex,
FYI, I experienced ground faults with the salon
AC. The breaker on the side of the 220 breaker box would
open intermittently. Sometimes the shore power breaker would
fail.
At first I thought it was one of the
capacitors, but later found that the short causing the
ground fault was caused by a short inside the blower fan
motor. Replacing the fan motor solved the problem.
Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

sent from my tablet
On Dec 27, 2014 6:25 PM,
"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Hello Terry,



I looked and looked, since they are made in France, Amel is
the best source.

I even tried directly from Dirupter and they wanted to sell
them to me for more than what Amel wanted…

So I just bought spare from Amel (they arrived Friday).

I was told by the previous owner, this is pretty rare they
failed, but had one failing on the Salon Air conditioning.




See you soon!

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 12/27/14, singh_terence@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diruptor Circuit breakers

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, December 27, 2014, 5:41 PM





 



















Does anyone have a source in North

America for the Disruptor circuit breakers as as
installed

by Amel?

Terry &

DenaSV Libby

SM#196San Diego...the count down is

on...departing for Galapagos mid January



















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Olivier,

I can read this message.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 3:48 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

 

 

Hello Gary,

 

I did reply to the question "why left hand turnbuckles?" but it seems that my message did not reach the group box.

If you tell me you can read this message, I will write an answer to the question...

 

Best regards to everyone.

 

Olivier BEAUTE


Re: Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Olivier Beaute
 

Hello Gary,

I did reply to the question "why left hand turnbuckles?" but it seems that my message did not reach the group box.
If you tell me you can read this message, I will write an answer to the question...

Best regards to everyone.

Olivier BEAUTE


Shear Strength of Monel vs Aluminum Rivet

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

The shear strength of 1/4 in (6.4 mm) diameter blind (pop) rivets are found to be:

Monel           1215 lbs
Aluminum       600 lbs

So about half as strong for aluminum. 

The problem I am having is finding a source for 1/4 inch by 3/4 inch Monel rivets in the USA. 

They seem to be ubiquitous in the Europe. 

Interesting?!? 

Thoughts anyone?

Gary Silver 
s/v Liahona    Amel SM  #335