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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

karkauai
 

Thanks, Bill,
We ran out of time, the electrician is coming back tomorrow.  In the meantime, I'll check with all of the 24V breakers off (galley, engine room, windlass, winches, etc).  If the voltage is gone, I'll switch them on one at time and see what happens...starting with the electric heads.

The bonding wires still go to the strap that goes to the keel bolt, and there are two that go from the strap to the engine and the top of the CDrive.  None go from the strap to the angle irons, but the bonding wire that goes to the zincs is attached to the angle iron.  I guess if the engine is connected to the bonding wires from the rest of the boat, and is connected to the angle iron, the engine completes the circuit to the zincs.....right?

I did have the bonding strap to the keel bolt replaced about 5 years ago, and I had the engine replaced a couple years later.  I suppose that during one of those projects someone could have missed a connection somewhere.

I'll let you know what I find.
Kent



From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 
Kent,

It is hard to diagnose via an email which does not have all of the facts.

One question about your electrician...With the 24v battery switch ON, and the 220V shore power DISCONNECTED (UNPLUGGED), did the electrician try to locate a faulty 24 volt item that is connected to the bonding system? If he did not try this, I suggest that you might need another electrician.

The most likely item(s) that I can think of that is/are 24 volt, connected to the bonding system, and might be faulty is/are the macerator pumps on the side of the electric toilets, and/or the salt water toilet supply pumps (assuming that Kristy has the electric toilets. You might try turning OFF the WC breaker which is located in the engine room forward bulkhead (on BeBe 387). Use a volt meter to ensure that none of the pumps are still getting DC current...If the 3 volt voltage disappears, you found the culprit. Next, you will have to isolate which pump by disconnecting one at a time. Let me know if this works for you or not...if not, I need to know all of your 24 volt items and I will try to come up with another suspect item.

Also (on BeBe 387), all of the bonding wires were routed by Amel to the gray water bilge ground strap, where they were soldered to the top of the ground strap. I'm not sure, but I believe that your boat was originally built this way...if so, there has been a lot of changes. Let me know what you can about how your boat was originally wired, or someone else on this forum with a hull number before Kristy 243, can answer this question.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387



On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:11 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Kent,

Congratulations on the receipt of the C-drive...hope the installation goes well.

Regarding your electrical scenario.....it sounds like there's a capacitance between the earth bonding system and the negative battery connection.
If the boat was in the water that could be the seawater if the negative power to your SSB and tuner are connected to the SSB ground plate. But I guess you're not in the water so that doesn't work.

But somewhere there is some kind of capacitive leak from the 24V negative circuit to the earth bonding.
It could be a faulty appliance which has an earth bonding connection and 24V supply?

Regarding the engine beds, the engine is isolated from the beds by the mounts so I guess it doesn't matter if the beds are bonded or not, the engine parts that come in contact with seawater are bonded, that's the important thing.

Hope there are some gurus out there that can help you further.

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
Gulf Harbour
 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

Alan Leslie
 

Bills reply also helpful....
What I mean is that maybe there is an electrical device which is faulty and has a capacitive leak to ground.
As Bill says, likely cuplrits are the toilet macerator pumps.
As for the AC breaker causing similar symptoms...maybe you have a faulty 220VAC appliance as well i.e one with an internal ground fault...do all your 220VAC appliances work OK?  Do any of them trip the AC breaker when you turn them on ?
The only way to find it is to disconnect things until the symptoms go away and identify the culprit.
Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
Gulf Harbour.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

karkauai
 

Thanks, Alan.
I'm not sure I understand the capacitance thing, but that's what the electrician thinks, too.  What kind of fault would lead to a capacitance?  I take it that means something is storing up some energy that flows when the battery switch is turned off, but is rapidly depleted.  There are a lot of capacitors in these boats...are we talking about a fault in one of them, or a fault that somehow acts as a capacitor?

Really don't understand why the DC voltage between the negative battery pole and the bonding system goes up when the 220 breaker is closed (on).  That's somehow an AC power supply showing up as a DC voltage, even when the power to the chargers is shut off.   Arrrgh.

Thanks again,
Kent



From: "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 7:11 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 
Hi Kent,

Congratulations on the receipt of the C-drive...hope the installation goes well.

Regarding your electrical scenario.....it sounds like there's a capacitance between the earth bonding system and the negative battery connection.
If the boat was in the water that could be the seawater if the negative power to your SSB and tuner are connected to the SSB ground plate. But I guess you're not in the water so that doesn't work.

But somewhere there is some kind of capacitive leak from the 24V negative circuit to the earth bonding.
It could be a faulty appliance which has an earth bonding connection and 24V supply?

Regarding the engine beds, the engine is isolated from the beds by the mounts so I guess it doesn't matter if the beds are bonded or not, the engine parts that come in contact with seawater are bonded, that's the important thing.

Hope there are some gurus out there that can help you further.

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
Gulf Harbour
 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

It is hard to diagnose via an email which does not have all of the facts.

One question about your electrician...With the 24v battery switch ON, and the 220V shore power DISCONNECTED (UNPLUGGED), did the electrician try to locate a faulty 24 volt item that is connected to the bonding system? If he did not try this, I suggest that you might need another electrician.

The most likely item(s) that I can think of that is/are 24 volt, connected to the bonding system, and might be faulty is/are the macerator pumps on the side of the electric toilets, and/or the salt water toilet supply pumps (assuming that Kristy has the electric toilets. You might try turning OFF the WC breaker which is located in the engine room forward bulkhead (on BeBe 387). Use a volt meter to ensure that none of the pumps are still getting DC current...If the 3 volt voltage disappears, you found the culprit. Next, you will have to isolate which pump by disconnecting one at a time. Let me know if this works for you or not...if not, I need to know all of your 24 volt items and I will try to come up with another suspect item.

Also (on BeBe 387), all of the bonding wires were routed by Amel to the gray water bilge ground strap, where they were soldered to the top of the ground strap. I'm not sure, but I believe that your boat was originally built this way...if so, there has been a lot of changes. Let me know what you can about how your boat was originally wired, or someone else on this forum with a hull number before Kristy 243, can answer this question.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:11 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Kent,


Congratulations on the receipt of the C-drive...hope the installation goes well.

Regarding your electrical scenario.....it sounds like there's a capacitance between the earth bonding system and the negative battery connection.
If the boat was in the water that could be the seawater if the negative power to your SSB and tuner are connected to the SSB ground plate. But I guess you're not in the water so that doesn't work.

But somewhere there is some kind of capacitive leak from the 24V negative circuit to the earth bonding.
It could be a faulty appliance which has an earth bonding connection and 24V supply?

Regarding the engine beds, the engine is isolated from the beds by the mounts so I guess it doesn't matter if the beds are bonded or not, the engine parts that come in contact with seawater are bonded, that's the important thing.

Hope there are some gurus out there that can help you further.

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
Gulf Harbour
 



Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Kent,

Congratulations on the receipt of the C-drive...hope the installation goes well.

Regarding your electrical scenario.....it sounds like there's a capacitance between the earth bonding system and the negative battery connection.
If the boat was in the water that could be the seawater if the negative power to your SSB and tuner are connected to the SSB ground plate. But I guess you're not in the water so that doesn't work.

But somewhere there is some kind of capacitive leak from the 24V negative circuit to the earth bonding.
It could be a faulty appliance which has an earth bonding connection and 24V supply?

Regarding the engine beds, the engine is isolated from the beds by the mounts so I guess it doesn't matter if the beds are bonded or not, the engine parts that come in contact with seawater are bonded, that's the important thing.

Hope there are some gurus out there that can help you further.

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
Gulf Harbour
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Wind Generator

Mark Erdos
 

We too have an Air Breeze installed by the previous owner. It is very cleverly mounted on the port side rail just a little forward of the mizzen mast. We do not have any vibrations due to the mount. I have to agree about the hum, There is no getting around it. The most annoying part of the hum is it is not consistent. It goes up and down in tone and stops and starts.



When at anchor we will let it run during the day but can’t tolerate the hum at night. It needs wind in excess of 10 knots to generate enough to register. If the wind is strong enough, over 15 knots, it will offset the need to run the genset and keep up with the demand of the refrigerator/freezer.



I believe a combination of Solar and wind is the way to go. We have not added solar, yet. But when we do, we will keep the Air Breeze.







With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 5:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Wind Generator





We have an Air Breeze, installed by the previous owner on our Maramu. Mounted on a SS pole at the stern on the port side. Right above the aft cabin. I have to disable it at night due to vibration and a low moan/hum. Its spins very quiet but the hum is way loud. I have fussed and fussed to try and eliminate the moan/hum but its worse than having an obnoxious poltergeist. If I had a shotgun, the wind gen would probably die violently.

We have used solar panels on prior boats. When I have the time and $$ I will install panels on the Maramu.

Bill and Andrew are correct. Panels are a way better solution. I would not myself buy and install a wind-gen until I had invested in as many panels as I could conveniently mount. With the panels be sure to get a top quality charge controller.

Curt Epperson
SV Languedoc
1987 Maramu


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind Generator

Alan Leslie
 

Agree absolutely, we have a D400 mounted on a pole on the port aft corner.
The only time I noticed any benefit from it was on the way to Tahiti in 40+ knot winds.
Otherwise it contributes almost nothing.
540W of solar panels are being installed next week.

Cheers
Alan 
SV Elyse SM437
Gulf Harbour


Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

karkauai
 

Hi, everyone,
I hope you are all having a great sailing season.

My new C Drive has finally arrived and we are sorting out the reinstallation to be done in early Feb when I can be present.  Hallelujah!!!!

I have just started looking at the electrical system to find the source of the current leak...with the help of a British electrician who was highly recommended by the marina owner.  Here's what we've found so far:

1. With the 24v battery switch closed (on), and the 220V shorepower off (at the breaker on the switching panel on the engine room forward bulkhead), there is 3Volt DC between the bonding system and the negative battery pole.  This disappears when the 24V battery switch is opened (off).  When the 220V breaker is turned on, this voltage jumps to 6V, whether the charger is powered or not (at the 220V panel in the galley).  When the 12V charger is turned on, the voltage jumps to 9+V.  My electrician is pretty confused by this.

2. When measuring this voltage between the negative battery pole and the bonding system, if the 24V battery switch is opened (turned off), there is a spike to the full battery voltage of 27V which degrades to 0 V over a minute or so.

3. We also discovered that the bonding wires from forward of the engine room were not connected to the angle iron rails that support the engine, but rather went to the stainless "muffler" and to the engine, outdrive, and transmission.  The bonding wire from the zincs on the rudder is attached to the angle irons.

I'm going to do some more investigation this evening, but wondered if anyone had any ideas about what may be going on.

As usual, thanks ahead of time for any light you can shed.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: Wind Generator

curtepp
 

We have an Air Breeze, installed by the previous owner on our Maramu.  Mounted on a SS pole at the stern on the port side.  Right above the aft cabin.  I have to disable it at night due to vibration and a low moan/hum.  Its spins very quiet but the hum is way loud.  I have fussed and fussed to try and eliminate the moan/hum but its worse than having an obnoxious poltergeist.  If I had a shotgun, the wind gen would probably die violently.

We have used solar panels on prior boats.  When I have the time and $$ I will install panels on the Maramu. 

Bill and Andrew are correct.  Panels are a way better solution.  I would not myself buy and install a wind-gen until I had invested in as many panels as I could conveniently mount.  With the panels be sure to get a top quality charge controller.

Curt Epperson
SV Languedoc
1987 Maramu


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

Peter Killen
 

Charles
Took Pure Magic from St Maarten to Norfolk Virginia in April last year. The original plan had been to get to New York via Bermuda but the weather out there was consistently bad at the time. We had a great trip up the east coast and finally have over wintered the boat in Halifax. We encountered nothing but kindness and friendliness en route. 
Have a good trip

Peter killen
SM 433  


On 24 Jan 2015, at 17:51, "Charles MacDonald c.macdonald@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexander and all,

Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any advice?
Charles Macdonald
Sailboat Inuit


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Hi Paul and Susan!

Joel is right about the ICW and the risk of going aground.    My husband and I have done it many times since retiring in 2001, and he has been doing the waterway since the early 80's.  Since 2001, we travelled the ICW in a Nauticat 43 motorsailer and then in a Nordhavn 47 trawler, both of which drew 6' or more.  in all the years that we travelled the waterway, we ran aground twice with the Nauticat, but fortunately had towing insurance to get us off.  By the time we got the Nordhavn in 2006, we had learned that sometimes it is just better to do coastal hops, and then pull into port cities or to be very selective about the portions of the waterway that we knew we could do comfortably.  Joel mentioned 2 cities in FL and we frequently are in and out of the St. Lucie  inlet (FL) but you can also go to Amelia Island, or hop up the coast to Brunswick, GA, or up to Savannah, Charleston, Wilmington, etc.  There  some deep bays in GA and SC with beautiful, secluded anchorages.   Also, you can enter the ICW at Morehead City and make it to Norfolk/Chesapeake Bay without running aground, rather than going around Cape Hatteras, as long as your air draft is less than 65' at mean high tide.  ( On the Nauticat, we had to lean her 5 degrees to get under the bridges -- it was like a Chinese fire drill, swinging out the boom with a water-filled drogue, etc. A foto of one such instance wound up on the cover of a sailing magazine.)

Off hand, I cannot recall the names of the websites that focus on ICW travel from MileMarker 0 (Norfolk, VA from whence we hail), going south, but I am sure you can find them by searching -- they give weekly updates to problem areas, in particular, with shoaling.

Please feel free to contact me at stephiedib@....  in case you stop in Freeport, we live there most of the year, and would enjoy meeting you.  

Fair Winds!
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM 353 Indecent
Lying Grand Lucayan Waterway, Freeport, Bahamas

On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:42 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just saw that you have a Maramu. You will still run aground more than you
will enjoy.

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE AMEL GUY

954 462 5869

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast

Paul and Susan,

My Maramu is 17m in hight and 1.8 m in depth. this seems OK for all bridges
in the waterway. A Supermaramu would probably not fit the requirements,

Charles

On 24 Jan, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@...
<mailto:pflafrance@...> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...> >
wrote:

Charles
We looked at the inter coastal waterway and determined that we were too deep
and our mast too high to make a transit. We went outside.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362
Currently in ST Martin

_____

To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:51:49 +0100
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

Alexander and all,

Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron
and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March
on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing
as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or
end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort
Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the
coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any
advice?

Charles Macdonald

Sailboat Inuit




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Charles, Joel is spot on the ICW is no place for an Amel. 
St. Aug is great you can tuck in the major ports as you go along. Await a something south wind be very, very careful not to be on the Gulf Steam when it's out of the north.  (Square big  waves) 
As far as crossing early May in the North Atlantic is cold. Think about a stop in St George Bermuda the head over staying well south of 40deg out of the storm belt. Horta is great in late 
June. Fair winds 
Regards
Capt Richard Piller

On Jan 24, 2015, at 13:42, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Just saw that you have a Maramu. You will still run aground more than you
will enjoy.

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE AMEL GUY

954 462 5869

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast

Paul and Susan,

My Maramu is 17m in hight and 1.8 m in depth. this seems OK for all bridges
in the waterway. A Supermaramu would probably not fit the requirements,

Charles

On 24 Jan, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@...
<mailto:pflafrance@...> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...> >
wrote:

Charles
We looked at the inter coastal waterway and determined that we were too deep
and our mast too high to make a transit. We went outside.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362
Currently in ST Martin

_____

To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners@...>

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:51:49 +0100
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

Alexander and all,

Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron
and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March
on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing
as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or
end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort
Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the
coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any
advice?

Charles Macdonald

Sailboat Inuit

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast

amelforme
 

Just saw that you have a Maramu. You will still run aground more than you
will enjoy.





Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE AMEL GUY

954 462 5869







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast





Paul and Susan,

My Maramu is 17m in hight and 1.8 m in depth. this seems OK for all bridges
in the waterway. A Supermaramu would probably not fit the requirements,

Charles









On 24 Jan, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@hotmail.com
<mailto:pflafrance@hotmail.com> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> >
wrote:









Charles
We looked at the inter coastal waterway and determined that we were too deep
and our mast too high to make a transit. We went outside.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362
Currently in ST Martin

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:51:49 +0100
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast



Alexander and all,

Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron
and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March
on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing
as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or
end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort
Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the
coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any
advice?

Charles Macdonald

Sailboat Inuit


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

amelforme
 

Hello Mr. Macdonald. I have been selling Amel boats for Amel on this side of
the Atlantic for more than thirty years. Here are some insights I hope you
can find useful. Saint Augustine is the first real city established by the
early European explorers in what later became the United States. It is a
very interesting place, quite charming, and everyone I know who has passed
through there has wonderful things to say about it. Most folks stay longer
than they intended initially just because they enjoyed it so much. Cape
Canaveral has some things to recommend it but between the two, Saint
Augustine would be my first choice. Both is better.



Your SM 53 is not Intracostal friendly and in many places it is unusable
there. Bridge heights lower than your 65'3" ,plus antenna, in several spots.
The charted depth is quite a bit thinner than projected in most places as
funding for dredging has been inconsistent, especially in the last decade.
Only about 10% of the Intracostal is interesting, the rest is desolate
,which can have a beauty all its own, or else it is industrial. The 'Dismal
Swamp' in the desolate part is aptly named. The commercial watermen who use
'The Ditch' ,as it is called, mainly barely tolerate yachtsmen and often are
resentful for you 'getting in their way on their waterway' and the source
of their income. You can only run safely during daylight hours in most
places which limits you to 70-90 miles daily, not including unscheduled
waits for bridges that don't open on time and getting yourself unstuck when
running aground. As one of my Amel clients said after doing the Intracostal,
"I would prefer to wait until I get older and need a trawler yacht with no
mast and more reasonable draft before I ever do it again."



Other than that, I rarely have much of an opinion about anything.



Good luck with your adventure!





Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE AMEL GUY

954 462 5869





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Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 11:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast





Alexander and all,

Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron
and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March
on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing
as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or
end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort
Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the
coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any
advice?

Charles Macdonald

Sailboat Inuit


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] East Coast

Charles MacDonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

Paul and Susan,
My Maramu is 17m in hight and 1.8 m in depth. this seems OK for all bridges in the waterway. A Supermaramu would probably not fit the requirements,
Charles



  

On 24 Jan, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Charles
We looked at the inter coastal waterway and determined that we were too deep and our mast too high to make a transit. We went outside.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362
Currently in ST Martin


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:51:49 +0100
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

 
Alexander and all,
Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any advice?
Charles Macdonald
Sailboat Inuit




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Charles
We looked at the inter coastal waterway and determined that we were too deep and our mast too high to make a transit. We went outside.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362
Currently in ST Martin


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:51:49 +0100
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: East Coast

 
Alexander and all,
Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any advice?
Charles Macdonald
Sailboat Inuit


Re: East Coast

Charles MacDonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

Alexander and all,
Thanks for the post re: marinas on the East Coast and for your reply to Ron and Ineke. I intend to sail from the Bahamas to the East Coast by late March on my Maramu #253 and enter the intracoastal waterway with a view to sailing as far up North as time permits (probably crossing the Atlantic by mid- or end of May). I would like to avoid southern Florida, Miami and the Fort Lauderdale area (crowded, expensive to all accounts) and rather hit the coast someway further North like Cape Canaveral or St Augustine even. Any advice?
Charles Macdonald
Sailboat Inuit


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind Generator

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

I agree with Bill and this was my experience on our last boat, I would not buy a wind generator again – it generated quite a bit of noise and vibration but not a worthwhile amount of electricity.

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 3:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind Generator

 

 

Gary,

All I can tell you is that the vast majority of wind gen owners tell me that they wish that they had invested in more solar rather than wind.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Jan 24, 2015 5:55 AM, "bozocinq@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am thinking of adding a wind generator. Looking for recommendations on Brand/model generator to look at.

 

Thank you,

Gary

Bozo Cinq, S/V 44 AMEL 54


Re: Mizzenstaysail

webercardio@...
 

Until now I couldn´t find  the right length for the spinnaker sleeve for the mizzenstaysail - I measured aprox. 14 meter from top of the mizzen to the fix point on drawings, so I think 13 meter should be right ?
While looking in the internet I found a nice address, showing and comparing Amel 54.
Yacht Design and Naval Architecture. Dublin, Ireland. Hydrostatics, Lines Plan, Yacht Surveys

  No help for my question, but  nice.

Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE,  Amel 54 # 162


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind Generator

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

All I can tell you is that the vast majority of wind gen owners tell me that they wish that they had invested in more solar rather than wind.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Jan 24, 2015 5:55 AM, "bozocinq@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am thinking of adding a wind generator. Looking for recommendations on Brand/model generator to look at.


Thank you,

Gary

Bozo Cinq, S/V 44 AMEL 54