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Re: Jordan Drogue

jjjk12s@...
 

Hi Eric,

I wasn't referring to your experience if that was how I sounded.

My wife and I have a reef tour business and live in an area that experiences cyclones so we are keen on following sources of weather information. We've always made our living on the sea so know something unexpected is often around the corner.

I find it fascinating though how much more information is becoming freely available so the chance of getting caught out is always getting lower. Also the accuracy can be amazing. The JTWC predicted the landfall of Cyclone Yasi (a large cat 5) several days ahead to incredible accuracy.

If you haven't looked at windyty.com (its only been going for a couple of months) check out the massive cyclone that's predicted for next week near Vanuatu. Yet other forecasts including the Vanuatu meteo don't mention it yet.

A group here called ozcyclonechasers have a website that's very good. They explain the different models available (something like 20 I think) and look at where and why they disagree. That helps work out the probability of different scenarios and different users may take different actions depending upon their level of caution. It's only relevant to northern Australia but it highlights why its good to get weather info from many different sources and not rely on one as its probably just one model, or one forecasters interpretation.  

Obviously it still doesn't mean safety gear isn't needed in the belief that extreme weather can always be avoided. Just hopefully it can stay in the bag.

John, Maramu #911981 Popeye, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ocean Pearl for sale

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Kent, the Amel site and its people have been fantastic, like an extended family. I've enjoyed you all. Of course for sale and sold are two different things, have to see how it goes.
Cheers
Danny 
 

From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2015 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ocean Pearl for sale

 
Awe, Danny,
We're gonna miss you and all your wisdom here.  If you want to hop aboard, I'd love to have you as guest and crew anytime you get an itch to feel the wind again.

Somebody's going to get a great, well cared for boat!

Malama mai ka'i nui loa lawe, ko'u ho'aloha.
Take very good care, my friend.

Meke aloha pau ole, a me a hui hou kako.
With everlasting aloha, until we meet again.
Kent





On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hi all, with some sadness we advise you that after over 6 years of amazing sailing Ocean Pearl is for sale..
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
At home in Mangonui New Zealand



Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you
I have tried to pull of the "Impeller" and the plastic end cap, but so fare very little success (I have loosen the locking screw) , by the way the thread for the locking not on the shaft for the "knifes" is very short have the rest corroded away or is it just the way it should be?
Regards
Paul on Kerpa


Jordan Drogue

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Every time I have had to put out the drogue it happened when something that was predicted by the weather gurus did not happen. A low turned around or some other unpredicted weather event happened.

 

You must have to be prepared for the unexpected.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

 

 

It seems appropriate to mention another useful website - the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre run by the US Navy http://www.usno.navy.mil/.

 

Maybe this can help minimize the use of these drogues!

 

John, Popeye Maramu #91, 1981

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ocean Pearl for sale

karkauai
 

Awe, Danny,
We're gonna miss you and all your wisdom here.  If you want to hop aboard, I'd love to have you as guest and crew anytime you get an itch to feel the wind again.

Somebody's going to get a great, well cared for boat!

Malama mai ka'i nui loa lawe, ko'u ho'aloha.
Take very good care, my friend.

Meke aloha pau ole, a me a hui hou kako.
With everlasting aloha, until we meet again.
Kent



On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all, with some sadness we advise you that after over 6 years of amazing sailing Ocean Pearl is for sale.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
At home in Mangonui New Zealand


Ocean Pearl for sale

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all, with some sadness we advise you that after over 6 years of amazing sailing Ocean Pearl is for sale.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
At home in Mangonui New Zealand


Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Alan Leslie
 

The leak is probably the shaft seal .
There are kits available for these pumps that provide all the parts needed to repair these pumps, Defender, West Marine etc have them.
Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, I have never looked into it, but the red light on the panel is also connected to an alarm (which I think is the same alarm for blocked sea water).

I sent you a wiring diagram for installation of the Leece-Neville 175 alternator which shows a warning light in on of the schematics

Maybe that will help.

Bill

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Well, that's gone. Do you know what relay it is and how it's connected?
Thanks,
K


On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:43 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect that this was another thing that the repower mechanic decided NOT to reinstall. The relay for this red light and corresponding alarm was originally mounted on the port side of your engine next to the negative solenoid.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 6, 2015 8:30 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

karkauai
 

Well, that's gone. Do you know what relay it is and how it's connected?
Thanks,
K


On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:43 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect that this was another thing that the repower mechanic decided NOT to reinstall. The relay for this red light and corresponding alarm was originally mounted on the port side of your engine next to the negative solenoid.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 6, 2015 8:30 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

karkauai
 

Aha!  Thanks, Alexandre.
Kent


On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Good morning Kent,

On NIKIMAT (SM2K #289) this light is to indicate if the 24 volt alternator on the engine is "not" working.
This is also what the owner manual says.

In my case, after I start the (Volvo TMD 22P) engine, this light will appear. So I disengage the throttle, the rev it up a little, then the 24 volt alternator work after that.
Note: I had to the same on the Aston to (I think it is called) "energize" the system.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 3/6/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 8:29 AM


 









Hi gang,

While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the
dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the
bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked
since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?

Thanks,

Kent

SM 243

Kristy













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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I suspect that this was another thing that the repower mechanic decided NOT to reinstall. The relay for this red light and corresponding alarm was originally mounted on the port side of your engine next to the negative solenoid.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 6, 2015 8:30 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Kent,

On NIKIMAT (SM2K #289) this light is to indicate if the 24 volt alternator on the engine is "not" working.
This is also what the owner manual says.

In my case, after I start the (Volvo TMD 22P) engine, this light will appear. So I disengage the throttle, the rev it up a little, then the 24 volt alternator work after that.
Note: I had to the same on the Aston to (I think it is called) "energize" the system.

Sincerely, Alexandre





--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 3/6/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 8:29 AM


 









Hi gang,

While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the
dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the
bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked
since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?

Thanks,

Kent

SM 243

Kristy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

On NIKIMAT SM2K #289 I have the same Jabsco 740001-2853 24V toilet electric motor - just bought a spare on Defender for $192 (with shipping).




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On Fri, 3/6/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 8:54 AM


 









Hi Paul,On Kristy, SM243, also
1999, the heads are Jabsco QuietFlush large bowl model
37245-1094. The macerator pumps are the same Jabsco
740001-2853 24V that you describe.  The fill pumps are
Jabsco 30631-0094 24V.
KentSM243Kristy
On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:40 AM, osterberg.paul.l@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
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Hello!I have
problem to find the right Motor/pump to my Jabsco toilet on
SM 2000 from 1999, The number on the motor is 74001-2853, I
was advice to use motors from Johnson but they delivered the
wrong one. The problem with the current motor is it leaks
between the metal case and the plastic flange, and
unfortunately both toilets motors
leaks.So if anyone know which motor that
fits it would be appreciated to know.
RegardsPaul
on Kerpa























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Paul Osterberg
 

Thanks!
Amazing this forum how quick one gets an answer
Paul on Kerpa


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

karkauai
 

Hi Paul,
On Kristy, SM243, also 1999, the heads are Jabsco QuietFlush large bowl model 37245-1094. The macerator pumps are the same Jabsco 740001-2853 24V that you describe.  The fill pumps are Jabsco 30631-0094 24V.

Kent
SM243
Kristy




On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:40 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello!

I have problem to find the right Motor/pump to my Jabsco toilet on SM 2000 from 1999, The number on the motor is 74001-2853, I was advice to use motors from Johnson but they delivered the wrong one. The problem with the current motor is it leaks between the metal case and the plastic flange, and unfortunately both toilets motors leaks.

So if anyone know which motor that fits it would be appreciated to know.


Regards

Paul on Kerpa



Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!

I have problem to find the right Motor/pump to my Jabsco toilet on SM 2000 from 1999, The number on the motor is 74001-2853, I was advice to use motors from Johnson but they delivered the wrong one. The problem with the current motor is it leaks between the metal case and the plastic flange, and unfortunately both toilets motors leaks.

So if anyone know which motor that fits it would be appreciated to know.


Regards

Paul on Kerpa



Red light on 24V panel

karkauai
 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

jjjk12s@...
 

It seems appropriate to mention another useful website - http://www.usno.navy.mil/JTWC. the Joint Typhoon Tracking Warning Centre run by the US Navy. 

Maybe it can help reduce the use of these drogues!

John, Maramu, #91, Popeye, Port Douglas, Australia

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 2:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

 

 

Hello Gerhard,

 

I have a 157 cone drogue not 147.....  I would check with Roddy again.  The indicated number of cones on the Jordan site also says 157 cones.  

 

The price for a Jordan drogue bought from Roddy is much less than the USA quoted price.  

 

For Eric,

 

I am most interested in your giant snatch block.  Post piccies when done??  Also of your chafe preventers.  

 

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/edson-marine--leather-turnbuckle-covers--P002_065_007_505

Made by Edson Marine- the company that makes steering pedestals-they last forever in 3 sizes. Must be put on with zip ties as the Velcro doesn’t hold.

The Snatch Block is still in production.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

Many thanks,

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

 

 

On 6 Mar 2015, at 05:34, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

The backstays are a problem but I would not shorten them. They really soften the stretch of the drogue and with sufficient chafe gear it will not be a problem.

The shock load on the  drogue is surprisingly small as the cones take most of the load. It is amazing to watch it work.  I am just finishing a monster snatch block that will pull the bridle away from whatever backstay is being rubbed by the bridle-Speak to dave about the length.

 

As chafe gear I use leather Velcro lined turnbuckle covers which were made by Edson. I further attach them with “zip” cable ties.

They have to be inspected and moved every hour.

 

You should also fashion some device to fit over the chock when retrieving the drogue. This will prevent you from ripping the cones while they pass over the chock.

 

Be careful with the horn of the primary winch as it will also tear the cones.

Finally you will need to give the primary winch a break every minute or so as the thermal overload built into the winch will cut out and stop the winch. The winch will have to be hand tailed as the drogue is too big to  fit into the winch jaws.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

 

 

Hi Bill, Jeff & Eric,

 

I've read Eric's posts and what I'd like to know is the exact length of the bridle leg, as it appears to me that the 2.5 times width of the attachment points, ie. 1.83m width of the attachment points by 2.5m is 4.5m.   Standing on the pontoon behind the boat at that 4.5m point, it appears that I'm pretty much colliding with the backstays.  So, what I would like to know is if I should request those bridle legs to be shorter and if so, at what length.  Of course Eric's response and suggestions would be most appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

Gerhard Hoffmann

SM381, Pepino

Greece

 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gerhard,

I have a 157 cone drogue not 147.....  I would check with Roddy again.  The indicated number of cones on the Jordan site also says 157 cones.  

The price for a Jordan drogue bought from Roddy is much less than the USA quoted price.  

For Eric,

I am most interested in your giant snatch block.  Post piccies when done??  Also of your chafe preventers.  


Many thanks,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007




On 6 Mar 2015, at 05:34, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The backstays are a problem but I would not shorten them. They really soften the stretch of the drogue and with sufficient chafe gear it will not be a problem.
The shock load on the  drogue is surprisingly small as the cones take most of the load. It is amazing to watch it work.  I am just finishing a monster snatch block that will pull the bridle away from whatever backstay is being rubbed by the bridle-Speak to dave about the length.
 
As chafe gear I use leather Velcro lined turnbuckle covers which were made by Edson. I further attach them with “zip” cable ties.
They have to be inspected and moved every hour.
 
You should also fashion some device to fit over the chock when retrieving the drogue. This will prevent you from ripping the cones while they pass over the chock.
 
Be careful with the horn of the primary winch as it will also tear the cones.
Finally you will need to give the primary winch a break every minute or so as the thermal overload built into the winch will cut out and stop the winch. The winch will have to be hand tailed as the drogue is too big to  fit into the winch jaws.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pepinoamel
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue
 
 
Hi Bill, Jeff & Eric,
 
I've read Eric's posts and what I'd like to know is the exact length of the bridle leg, as it appears to me that the 2.5 times width of the attachment points, ie. 1.83m width of the attachment points by 2.5m is 4.5m.   Standing on the pontoon behind the boat at that 4.5m point, it appears that I'm pretty much colliding with the backstays.  So, what I would like to know is if I should request those bridle legs to be shorter and if so, at what length.  Of course Eric's response and suggestions would be most appreciated.
 
Thanks.
 
Gerhard Hoffmann
SM381, Pepino
Greece


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