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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Dennis woods
 

For what it's worth, I replaced a jabsco motor which was waterlogged and replaced the seal on the other toilet. Both have been faultless for 5 years now. One thing I do is always pump out all the water from the pan after use so there is little water pressing against the seal. Happy Sails. Dennis. IL FLAUTO MAGICO SM 408


On Sunday, 8 March 2015, jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Its worth considering changing the seal even on a brand new pump to a good quality nitrile seal from a bearing shop. It seems both Johnson and Jabsco pump shaft seals are more sensitive to chemicals that they should be considering their job. The pumps in Australia cost about the same as a whole new toilet. 


John, Maramu, #91 Popeye


Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

jjjk12s@...
 


Its worth considering changing the seal even on a brand new pump to a good quality nitrile seal from a bearing shop. It seems both Johnson and Jabsco pump shaft seals are more sensitive to chemicals that they should be considering their job. The pumps in Australia cost about the same as a whole new toilet. 

John, Maramu, #91 Popeye


Re: Keel bolt bonding strap

jjjk12s@...
 

Thanks Bill, Eric and Danny, that's perfect.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi John,
I made a long extension with a piece of discarded D 15 reinforcing rod found on the roadside of a Caribbean island. I ground a tapered square on the end and jammed the socket on. At the top I just used a stilson pipe wrench. Worked well. I've kept my designer extension on board ever since.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 


From: "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:17 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

 
I need to renew the bonding strap to the keel bolt in the deep engine room sump and as I have the engine out it's a good time to try it. I intend to replace the braided copper strap which is too old with a solid copper strip fastened to the keel bolt. I guess its probably covered in flowcoat that will need chipping off and I need to get a socket welded on a long pipe - and use something to keep the nut in place in the socket and fabricate a suitable end terminal for the copper..... 

If I'd be very grateful if anyone who's done it has any tips. I remember a post about this a while back but haven't found it.

Thanks
John, Maramu #91 1981, Popeye, port Douglas, Australia
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jordan Drogue

Eric Freedman
 

Hi John,

No offense taken.

I was just trying to say that these websites are very helpful, however sometimes they don’t hit the nail on the head.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Ps did you know that Popeye is also a mass murderer in Colombia having been credited with over 3000

murders- he was just released from jail after serving 22 years – time off for good behavior—

Pablo Escobar's top assassin, 'Popeye,' is out of jail and under police protection. John Jairo Velasquez has been tied to the murders of at least 3,000 people. He has admitted to killing at least 250 as the head of drug lord Pablo Escobar's terror squad.”

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jordan Drogue

 

 

Hi Eric,

 

I wasn't referring to your experience if that was how I sounded.

 

My wife and I have a reef tour business and live in an area that experiences cyclones so we are keen on following sources of weather information. We've always made our living on the sea so know something unexpected is often around the corner.

 

I find it fascinating though how much more information is becoming freely available so the chance of getting caught out is always getting lower. Also the accuracy can be amazing. The JTWC predicted the landfall of Cyclone Yasi (a large cat 5) several days ahead to incredible accuracy.

 

If you haven't looked at windyty.com (its only been going for a couple of months) check out the massive cyclone that's predicted for next week near Vanuatu. Yet other forecasts including the Vanuatu meteo don't mention it yet.

 

A group here called ozcyclonechasers have a website that's very good. They explain the different models available (something like 20 I think) and look at where and why they disagree. That helps work out the probability of different scenarios and different users may take different actions depending upon their level of caution. It's only relevant to northern Australia but it highlights why its good to get weather info from many different sources and not rely on one as its probably just one model, or one forecasters interpretation.  

 

Obviously it still doesn't mean safety gear isn't needed in the belief that extreme weather can always be avoided. Just hopefully it can stay in the bag.

 

John, Maramu #911981 Popeye, Australia

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Eric Freedman
 

I don’t know about a Maramu,

However there is a drawing somewhere for the bonding strap in the archives..

I made mine out of 3 inch  wide by 1/8”copper strap. To remove the bolt in the bilge, I used a shop vac and dried up the bilge.

 

I then attached a number of extensions to my socket wrench. I think I use4 - 10 inch extensions. I used duct tape to keep them together. After removing the nut I used a 3 finger grabber that  that extends 3 fingers at one end and has a button at the other end . It is wound in cable. It is use to pick up dropped items that are inaccessible.

 

The top of my strap had numerous copper bonding wires attached to it.

I cut the old strap short and bolted and soldered it to the new strap instead of re- soldering all the wires.

To re install the bolt in the bilge I simply used masking tape on the bolt and socket.

It was quite easy to do.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

 

 

I need to renew the bonding strap to the keel bolt in the deep engine room sump and as I have the engine out it's a good time to try it. I intend to replace the braided copper strap which is too old with a solid copper strip fastened to the keel bolt. I guess its probably covered in flowcoat that will need chipping off and I need to get a socket welded on a long pipe - and use something to keep the nut in place in the socket and fabricate a suitable end terminal for the copper..... 



If I'd be very grateful if anyone who's done it has any tips. I remember a post about this a while back but haven't found it.



Thanks

John, Maramu #91 1981, Popeye, port Douglas, Australia

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Everything you need to know is here:

Bill 
BeBe 387

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:17 AM, jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I need to renew the bonding strap to the keel bolt in the deep engine room sump and as I have the engine out it's a good time to try it. I intend to replace the braided copper strap which is too old with a solid copper strip fastened to the keel bolt. I guess its probably covered in flowcoat that will need chipping off and I need to get a socket welded on a long pipe - and use something to keep the nut in place in the socket and fabricate a suitable end terminal for the copper..... 


If I'd be very grateful if anyone who's done it has any tips. I remember a post about this a while back but haven't found it.


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John, Maramu #91 1981, Popeye, port Douglas, Australia

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

In my experience, once this Jabsco pump's seal is leaking, the pump needs replacing. There are others who have successfully changed the seal, but every time the seal has leaked I have found salt water damage inside the pump. These pumps will last about 3 years. I carry 2 spares.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:02 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you

I have tried to pull of the "Impeller" and the plastic end cap, but so fare very little success (I have loosen the locking screw) , by the way the thread for the locking not on the shaft for the "knifes" is very short have the rest corroded away or is it just the way it should be?
Regards
Paul on Kerpa



Keel bolt bonding strap

jjjk12s@...
 

I need to renew the bonding strap to the keel bolt in the deep engine room sump and as I have the engine out it's a good time to try it. I intend to replace the braided copper strap which is too old with a solid copper strip fastened to the keel bolt. I guess its probably covered in flowcoat that will need chipping off and I need to get a socket welded on a long pipe - and use something to keep the nut in place in the socket and fabricate a suitable end terminal for the copper..... 


If I'd be very grateful if anyone who's done it has any tips. I remember a post about this a while back but haven't found it.


Thanks

John, Maramu #91 1981, Popeye, port Douglas, Australia

 


Re: Jordan Drogue

jjjk12s@...
 

Hi Eric,

I wasn't referring to your experience if that was how I sounded.

My wife and I have a reef tour business and live in an area that experiences cyclones so we are keen on following sources of weather information. We've always made our living on the sea so know something unexpected is often around the corner.

I find it fascinating though how much more information is becoming freely available so the chance of getting caught out is always getting lower. Also the accuracy can be amazing. The JTWC predicted the landfall of Cyclone Yasi (a large cat 5) several days ahead to incredible accuracy.

If you haven't looked at windyty.com (its only been going for a couple of months) check out the massive cyclone that's predicted for next week near Vanuatu. Yet other forecasts including the Vanuatu meteo don't mention it yet.

A group here called ozcyclonechasers have a website that's very good. They explain the different models available (something like 20 I think) and look at where and why they disagree. That helps work out the probability of different scenarios and different users may take different actions depending upon their level of caution. It's only relevant to northern Australia but it highlights why its good to get weather info from many different sources and not rely on one as its probably just one model, or one forecasters interpretation.  

Obviously it still doesn't mean safety gear isn't needed in the belief that extreme weather can always be avoided. Just hopefully it can stay in the bag.

John, Maramu #911981 Popeye, Australia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ocean Pearl for sale

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Kent, the Amel site and its people have been fantastic, like an extended family. I've enjoyed you all. Of course for sale and sold are two different things, have to see how it goes.
Cheers
Danny 
 


From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2015 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ocean Pearl for sale

 
Awe, Danny,
We're gonna miss you and all your wisdom here.  If you want to hop aboard, I'd love to have you as guest and crew anytime you get an itch to feel the wind again.

Somebody's going to get a great, well cared for boat!

Malama mai ka'i nui loa lawe, ko'u ho'aloha.
Take very good care, my friend.

Meke aloha pau ole, a me a hui hou kako.
With everlasting aloha, until we meet again.
Kent





On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hi all, with some sadness we advise you that after over 6 years of amazing sailing Ocean Pearl is for sale..
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
At home in Mangonui New Zealand



Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you
I have tried to pull of the "Impeller" and the plastic end cap, but so fare very little success (I have loosen the locking screw) , by the way the thread for the locking not on the shaft for the "knifes" is very short have the rest corroded away or is it just the way it should be?
Regards
Paul on Kerpa


Jordan Drogue

Eric Freedman
 

Every time I have had to put out the drogue it happened when something that was predicted by the weather gurus did not happen. A low turned around or some other unpredicted weather event happened.

 

You must have to be prepared for the unexpected.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jordan Drogue

 

 

It seems appropriate to mention another useful website - the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre run by the US Navy http://www.usno.navy.mil/.

 

Maybe this can help minimize the use of these drogues!

 

John, Popeye Maramu #91, 1981

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ocean Pearl for sale

karkauai
 

Awe, Danny,
We're gonna miss you and all your wisdom here.  If you want to hop aboard, I'd love to have you as guest and crew anytime you get an itch to feel the wind again.

Somebody's going to get a great, well cared for boat!

Malama mai ka'i nui loa lawe, ko'u ho'aloha.
Take very good care, my friend.

Meke aloha pau ole, a me a hui hou kako.
With everlasting aloha, until we meet again.
Kent



On Mar 6, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all, with some sadness we advise you that after over 6 years of amazing sailing Ocean Pearl is for sale.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
At home in Mangonui New Zealand


Ocean Pearl for sale

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all, with some sadness we advise you that after over 6 years of amazing sailing Ocean Pearl is for sale.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
At home in Mangonui New Zealand


Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Alan Leslie
 

The leak is probably the shaft seal .
There are kits available for these pumps that provide all the parts needed to repair these pumps, Defender, West Marine etc have them.
Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent, I have never looked into it, but the red light on the panel is also connected to an alarm (which I think is the same alarm for blocked sea water).

I sent you a wiring diagram for installation of the Leece-Neville 175 alternator which shows a warning light in on of the schematics

Maybe that will help.

Bill

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Well, that's gone. Do you know what relay it is and how it's connected?
Thanks,
K


On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:43 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect that this was another thing that the repower mechanic decided NOT to reinstall. The relay for this red light and corresponding alarm was originally mounted on the port side of your engine next to the negative solenoid.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 6, 2015 8:30 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

karkauai
 

Well, that's gone. Do you know what relay it is and how it's connected?
Thanks,
K


On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:43 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect that this was another thing that the repower mechanic decided NOT to reinstall. The relay for this red light and corresponding alarm was originally mounted on the port side of your engine next to the negative solenoid.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 6, 2015 8:30 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

karkauai
 

Aha!  Thanks, Alexandre.
Kent


On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Good morning Kent,

On NIKIMAT (SM2K #289) this light is to indicate if the 24 volt alternator on the engine is "not" working.
This is also what the owner manual says.

In my case, after I start the (Volvo TMD 22P) engine, this light will appear. So I disengage the throttle, the rev it up a little, then the 24 volt alternator work after that.
Note: I had to the same on the Aston to (I think it is called) "energize" the system.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 3/6/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 8:29 AM


 









Hi gang,

While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the
dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the
bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked
since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?

Thanks,

Kent

SM 243

Kristy













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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red light on 24V panel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I suspect that this was another thing that the repower mechanic decided NOT to reinstall. The relay for this red light and corresponding alarm was originally mounted on the port side of your engine next to the negative solenoid.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 6, 2015 8:30 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi gang,
While checking the FireBoy wiring I discovered the dead-headed wires that go to the small red light in the bottom left corner of the 24V panel. It has never worked since I purchased the boat. What is it there for?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy