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Equivalent Perkins engine to Volvo TDM 22

jgermain@...
 

Hello Gang,


I would like to procure Perkins spares ISO Volvo ID'ed components.  Price difference brings tears to my eyes.


Better yet, once the exact Perkins model has been identified, we can then track back to identically powered FORD vans commonly used in the UK to source identical but far less expensive spares.  Think water pump, injectors, TC units etc.


Can anyone help me with the model number of the TC'ed Perkins (80 HP) they have in their boat?


Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007

 


Re: RACOR or Vetus dual fuel filter

Alan Leslie
 

Agree with others, we have the dual RACOR filter setup, the RACOR filter elements are available just about everywhere...I carry about 8 on board just in case and replenish the stock as I change them.

The other things that are important regarding diesel fuel :

a Baja filter to filter suspect fuel BEFORE putting it into your tank - the West Marine (I don't like to promote them, but) filter came out best in comparison tests.

always put diesel bug inhibitor in the tank before you refill.

in tropical areas try to keep the tank as full as possible all the time, especially if you leave the boat sitting still for any length of time, o'wise condensation occurs on the walls of the tank and goes to the bottom of the tank, eventually it will end up in your filters

Good luck !

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Alan Leslie
 

And maybe the design is for copper because the copper will corrode before the keel bolt does (like zinc does), but maybe the keel bolt would corrode before the stainless (inox) strap ?? which would not be the best situation to be in !

I replaced mine with 1/4" x 1 1/2" copper......

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437   


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

I think that is an interesting thought – I have not changed the bonding strap yet but I wonder about inox although I think copper is around 40 times more conductive that stainless steel so maybe that is a consideration?

 

Andrew

 

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 8:47 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

 

 

dear alal,
I recently had to change also my bondoing strap. Pilgrim is hull N°26 and this is the second time it broke. Therefore I had some thoughts about copper and inoix in a salty environnment. I think it was a mistake from Amel, it may happen, to have copper on inox in the bilge. Therefore I changed for an inox strap and linked the inox strap to the copper bonding at the top, out of water. I used the sketch of Bill for the dimensions, just changed the material.
I believe this will brake after the boat is out of service...
Hope it helps
Wish you fair winds from Poros isalnd (Greeceà


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

alainfeuillet@...
 

dear alal,
I recently had to change also my bondoing strap. Pilgrim is hull N°26 and this is the second time it broke. Therefore I had some thoughts about copper and inoix in a salty environnment. I think it was a mistake from Amel, it may happen, to have copper on inox in the bilge. Therefore I changed for an inox strap and linked the inox strap to the copper bonding at the top, out of water. I used the sketch of Bill for the dimensions, just changed the material.
I believe this will brake after the boat is out of service...
Hope it helps
Wish you fair winds from Poros isalnd (Greeceà


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Eric Freedman
 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 11:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

 

 

Gary,

Who changed the rigging out for you?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 8:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

 

 


Dear Colin:

 

I will write a detailed document on alll things "SM standing rigging change" when I have a moment and better internet.  I will summarize what has been posted authoritatively on this site as well as my own experience.  Here is a brief account.  The rigging arrived on a 2.5 ft by 2.5 ft pallat in a box about 24 inches tall, wrapped in plastic wrap and all the end fitting were welll protected.  All parts right down to the clevis pins, washers and cotter pins were included.  Everything labeled in French and so the translations I provided in the files section helped us know where things went.  Weight was 130 kg.  The riggers I hired were knowledgeable having been on the job for many years but lacked in details relative to Amel and like so many things in the Caribbean less than completely careful.  Before work started I had to insist they use padded tools to prevent marring the chrome plating of the turnbuckles etc.  Even so they breeched the plating on a couple of turnbuckels and scratched the pain on my mizzen mast in a couple of places.  It required three riggers 20 hours to do the change out and I contributed about 8 hours myself removing the boomerangs, all the locking screws, positioning the various parts and doing the disassembly and re-assemblty of the foil from the socket of the manual jib furling fitting (drilling out 8 pop rivets and then the saga of getting the foil out of the socket, more to follow).  The riggers simply gave up on that project, and two engineers who I consulted suggested it that it was corroded in place and recommended cutting it off and buying a new manual jib furling fitting, (yeah right).  Indeed there was no/minimal corrosion and the joint finally came apart.  The rivets I purchased based on the info on this forum were too long and the head diameter too large and I had to shorten them using a Dremmel tool and mount them in a drill to file down the head to fit the counterbore recesses of manual jib furling fitting.  I will post specifications for the rivet length and diameter when I write it all up.  Plan on at least two people, three in some instances, and about 50-60 man hours to do the job.  Those on this forum who said it can be done in two days must be supermen.  If I were to do it again and time was no factor, I would do it myself with a hired assistant.  The masts are straight, the rigging is tight (far tighter than previously), I am told that things will stretch and indeed during a 7 hour sail yesterday in 22 knots I didn't see any of the sag in the leeward shrouds that I had previously been seeing (my rig had not been touched in 14 years since it left the factory).  Now the real question, did it even need to be done?  See my note on the Waddington Factor in another post.  This seemed to be an invasive process.  Perhaps I should have just tightened my existing rigging and carried on doing careful inpsections. 

 

For specific questions please feel free to enquire.

 

Sincerely,

 

Gary Silver

s/v Liahon Amel SM 335


Calpeda A/C pump

Eric Freedman
 

Can anyone please send me the serial number of the calpeda A/C  raw water pump Greenish blue color on a hull close to my hull number?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

Eric Freedman
 

Gary,

Who changed the rigging out for you?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 8:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Jib Furling Specs Summary:

 

 


Dear Colin:

 

I will write a detailed document on alll things "SM standing rigging change" when I have a moment and better internet.  I will summarize what has been posted authoritatively on this site as well as my own experience.  Here is a brief account.  The rigging arrived on a 2.5 ft by 2.5 ft pallat in a box about 24 inches tall, wrapped in plastic wrap and all the end fitting were welll protected.  All parts right down to the clevis pins, washers and cotter pins were included.  Everything labeled in French and so the translations I provided in the files section helped us know where things went.  Weight was 130 kg.  The riggers I hired were knowledgeable having been on the job for many years but lacked in details relative to Amel and like so many things in the Caribbean less than completely careful.  Before work started I had to insist they use padded tools to prevent marring the chrome plating of the turnbuckles etc.  Even so they breeched the plating on a couple of turnbuckels and scratched the pain on my mizzen mast in a couple of places.  It required three riggers 20 hours to do the change out and I contributed about 8 hours myself removing the boomerangs, all the locking screws, positioning the various parts and doing the disassembly and re-assemblty of the foil from the socket of the manual jib furling fitting (drilling out 8 pop rivets and then the saga of getting the foil out of the socket, more to follow).  The riggers simply gave up on that project, and two engineers who I consulted suggested it that it was corroded in place and recommended cutting it off and buying a new manual jib furling fitting, (yeah right).  Indeed there was no/minimal corrosion and the joint finally came apart.  The rivets I purchased based on the info on this forum were too long and the head diameter too large and I had to shorten them using a Dremmel tool and mount them in a drill to file down the head to fit the counterbore recesses of manual jib furling fitting.  I will post specifications for the rivet length and diameter when I write it all up.  Plan on at least two people, three in some instances, and about 50-60 man hours to do the job.  Those on this forum who said it can be done in two days must be supermen.  If I were to do it again and time was no factor, I would do it myself with a hired assistant.  The masts are straight, the rigging is tight (far tighter than previously), I am told that things will stretch and indeed during a 7 hour sail yesterday in 22 knots I didn't see any of the sag in the leeward shrouds that I had previously been seeing (my rig had not been touched in 14 years since it left the factory).  Now the real question, did it even need to be done?  See my note on the Waddington Factor in another post.  This seemed to be an invasive process.  Perhaps I should have just tightened my existing rigging and carried on doing careful inpsections. 

 

For specific questions please feel free to enquire.

 

Sincerely,

 

Gary Silver

s/v Liahon Amel SM 335


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Sheet athwartships adjustment pulleys

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Sorry, I do not have that info, but I have two suggestions.

Write sav"at"amel.fr and ask them be sure to include the model and hull number.

When you write this group, be sure to include model and hull. You should also include your name.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Mar 8, 2015 7:51 PM, "jwdernehl@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

While removing the dodger for re-sealing, I figured I would also re-seal the athwartships main sheet rail.  While disassembling the port and stbd pulleys, the stbd pulley crumbled apart as I removed it.  I guess 25 years of sun and weather is too much.  

So here is my question.  Does anyone have the specs on what this pulley is called?  I need to order new port and stbd pulleys. 


Thank you 


Main Sheet athwartships adjustment pulleys

jwdernehl@...
 

While removing the dodger for re-sealing, I figured I would also re-seal the athwartships main sheet rail.  While disassembling the port and stbd pulleys, the stbd pulley crumbled apart as I removed it.  I guess 25 years of sun and weather is too much.  

So here is my question.  Does anyone have the specs on what this pulley is called?  I need to order new port and stbd pulleys. 


Thank you 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RACOR or Vetus dual fuel filter

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The primary question I would have is what about availability of filters. I have seen Racor everywhere around the world.

Bill
BeBe

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:35 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello again, hope I’m not tiring you with another question but as new Amel owner and just to start live aboard and go blue water sailing, all advice are most appreciated

We will replace the current fuel filter/water separator with a dual system, Either Veus  or RACOR. If the price where the same I would have chosen RACOR, but the price for Vetus dual fuel filter is half price of the RACOR System

Do any of you have any view on this? is it worth paying the double price for RACOR?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa  




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RACOR or Vetus dual fuel filter

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

It could be that RACOR is easier to get your hands on when out in the big wide world.

/Ann-Sofie & Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila
SM232
Present at Antigua

Skickat från min iPad

8 mar 2015 kl. 13:37 skrev "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hello Paul,


Went through the same question last year; given my travel plans will take me to "out of the way" places where fuel is likely to be transferred via drums or jerry cans, I chose RACOR.

I had not technical reason.  Just went on reputation and my wish for "peace of mind" while sailing the "boondocks" of our planet.

Hopefully, someone will pipe in and give loads of tech reasons why I chose the better system.

Fair winds,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 8 Mar 2015, at 17:35, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello again, hope I’m not tiring you with another question but as new Amel owner and just to start live aboard and go blue water sailing, all advice are most appreciated

We will replace the current fuel filter/water separator with a dual system, Either Veus  or RACOR. If the price where the same I would have chosen RACOR, but the price for Vetus dual fuel filter is half price of the RACOR System

Do any of you have any view on this? is it worth paying the double price for RACOR?


Paul on S/Y Kerpa  



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RACOR or Vetus dual fuel filter

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Paul,

Went through the same question last year; given my travel plans will take me to "out of the way" places where fuel is likely to be transferred via drums or jerry cans, I chose RACOR.

I had not technical reason.  Just went on reputation and my wish for "peace of mind" while sailing the "boondocks" of our planet.

Hopefully, someone will pipe in and give loads of tech reasons why I chose the better system.

Fair winds,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 8 Mar 2015, at 17:35, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello again, hope I’m not tiring you with another question but as new Amel owner and just to start live aboard and go blue water sailing, all advice are most appreciated

We will replace the current fuel filter/water separator with a dual system, Either Veus  or RACOR. If the price where the same I would have chosen RACOR, but the price for Vetus dual fuel filter is half price of the RACOR System

Do any of you have any view on this? is it worth paying the double price for RACOR?


Paul on S/Y Kerpa  



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RACOR or Vetus dual fuel filter

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello again, hope I’m not tiring you with another question but as new Amel owner and just to start live aboard and go blue water sailing, all advice are most appreciated

We will replace the current fuel filter/water separator with a dual system, Either Veus  or RACOR. If the price where the same I would have chosen RACOR, but the price for Vetus dual fuel filter is half price of the RACOR System

Do any of you have any view on this? is it worth paying the double price for RACOR?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa  



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

Dennis woods
 

For what it's worth, I replaced a jabsco motor which was waterlogged and replaced the seal on the other toilet. Both have been faultless for 5 years now. One thing I do is always pump out all the water from the pan after use so there is little water pressing against the seal. Happy Sails. Dennis. IL FLAUTO MAGICO SM 408


On Sunday, 8 March 2015, jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Its worth considering changing the seal even on a brand new pump to a good quality nitrile seal from a bearing shop. It seems both Johnson and Jabsco pump shaft seals are more sensitive to chemicals that they should be considering their job. The pumps in Australia cost about the same as a whole new toilet. 


John, Maramu, #91 Popeye


Re: Electric Motor/Pump to the toilet

jjjk12s@...
 


Its worth considering changing the seal even on a brand new pump to a good quality nitrile seal from a bearing shop. It seems both Johnson and Jabsco pump shaft seals are more sensitive to chemicals that they should be considering their job. The pumps in Australia cost about the same as a whole new toilet. 

John, Maramu, #91 Popeye


Re: Keel bolt bonding strap

jjjk12s@...
 

Thanks Bill, Eric and Danny, that's perfect.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi John,
I made a long extension with a piece of discarded D 15 reinforcing rod found on the roadside of a Caribbean island. I ground a tapered square on the end and jammed the socket on. At the top I just used a stilson pipe wrench. Worked well. I've kept my designer extension on board ever since.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 


From: "jjjk12s@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:17 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

 
I need to renew the bonding strap to the keel bolt in the deep engine room sump and as I have the engine out it's a good time to try it. I intend to replace the braided copper strap which is too old with a solid copper strip fastened to the keel bolt. I guess its probably covered in flowcoat that will need chipping off and I need to get a socket welded on a long pipe - and use something to keep the nut in place in the socket and fabricate a suitable end terminal for the copper..... 

If I'd be very grateful if anyone who's done it has any tips. I remember a post about this a while back but haven't found it.

Thanks
John, Maramu #91 1981, Popeye, port Douglas, Australia
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jordan Drogue

Eric Freedman
 

Hi John,

No offense taken.

I was just trying to say that these websites are very helpful, however sometimes they don’t hit the nail on the head.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Ps did you know that Popeye is also a mass murderer in Colombia having been credited with over 3000

murders- he was just released from jail after serving 22 years – time off for good behavior—

Pablo Escobar's top assassin, 'Popeye,' is out of jail and under police protection. John Jairo Velasquez has been tied to the murders of at least 3,000 people. He has admitted to killing at least 250 as the head of drug lord Pablo Escobar's terror squad.”

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jordan Drogue

 

 

Hi Eric,

 

I wasn't referring to your experience if that was how I sounded.

 

My wife and I have a reef tour business and live in an area that experiences cyclones so we are keen on following sources of weather information. We've always made our living on the sea so know something unexpected is often around the corner.

 

I find it fascinating though how much more information is becoming freely available so the chance of getting caught out is always getting lower. Also the accuracy can be amazing. The JTWC predicted the landfall of Cyclone Yasi (a large cat 5) several days ahead to incredible accuracy.

 

If you haven't looked at windyty.com (its only been going for a couple of months) check out the massive cyclone that's predicted for next week near Vanuatu. Yet other forecasts including the Vanuatu meteo don't mention it yet.

 

A group here called ozcyclonechasers have a website that's very good. They explain the different models available (something like 20 I think) and look at where and why they disagree. That helps work out the probability of different scenarios and different users may take different actions depending upon their level of caution. It's only relevant to northern Australia but it highlights why its good to get weather info from many different sources and not rely on one as its probably just one model, or one forecasters interpretation.  

 

Obviously it still doesn't mean safety gear isn't needed in the belief that extreme weather can always be avoided. Just hopefully it can stay in the bag.

 

John, Maramu #911981 Popeye, Australia

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

Eric Freedman
 

I don’t know about a Maramu,

However there is a drawing somewhere for the bonding strap in the archives..

I made mine out of 3 inch  wide by 1/8”copper strap. To remove the bolt in the bilge, I used a shop vac and dried up the bilge.

 

I then attached a number of extensions to my socket wrench. I think I use4 - 10 inch extensions. I used duct tape to keep them together. After removing the nut I used a 3 finger grabber that  that extends 3 fingers at one end and has a button at the other end . It is wound in cable. It is use to pick up dropped items that are inaccessible.

 

The top of my strap had numerous copper bonding wires attached to it.

I cut the old strap short and bolted and soldered it to the new strap instead of re- soldering all the wires.

To re install the bolt in the bilge I simply used masking tape on the bolt and socket.

It was quite easy to do.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Keel bolt bonding strap

 

 

I need to renew the bonding strap to the keel bolt in the deep engine room sump and as I have the engine out it's a good time to try it. I intend to replace the braided copper strap which is too old with a solid copper strip fastened to the keel bolt. I guess its probably covered in flowcoat that will need chipping off and I need to get a socket welded on a long pipe - and use something to keep the nut in place in the socket and fabricate a suitable end terminal for the copper..... 



If I'd be very grateful if anyone who's done it has any tips. I remember a post about this a while back but haven't found it.



Thanks

John, Maramu #91 1981, Popeye, port Douglas, Australia