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Re: SSB HF Antenna

yahoogroups@...
 

Peter,

I found this some time ago.

I think it is the source used on Super Maramus...not 100% sure.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1826325527/lightbox/7915044?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/7915044

Bill
BeBe 387
SSB HF Antenna

Peter Forbes
 

Can someone kindly tell me the length or description or part number of the SSB HF radio anr=tenna which is normally on the rear starboard deck of the Amel yachts?

Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece
R: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all
I have same problem and i' planning to recharge the accumulator, but
how?
On the rear side ther'is an access, any experience about?
All the best
Giovanni Testa
Sv Eutikia SM 428
Koh Hong. Thailand

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Da: amelyachtowners@...
Data: 12-apr-2015 7.55
A: <amelyachtowners@...>
Ogg: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

Gary is absolutely correct. Although I cannot see or feel a
wire exiting
this hose, when I shine a bright light on the hose, I can see a wire
inside.

This vent comment was a side comment to the observations I made when
opening and cleaning the fresh water tank's 3 ports. It was a quick and
careless assumption on my part. I apologize for that assumption and
will
correct the graphic today.

This brings me back to my earlier comment to Eric that the only venting
of
the water tank is through the floating gauge pipe.

Gary, Boris at Amel told me that the sensors would have to be cut out
of
the hull. B&G told me they must be installed in matched pairs. At least
we
know where one of the sensor wires is routed.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Apr 12, 2015 1:19 AM, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...>
wrote:



Hi all:

The hose in photo number 4 (labeled tank vent), is NOT a tank vent.
It is
a hose that exits at the inboard edge of the the aft locker under the
table
in the saloon.

If you look closely in the picture, and you can check this on your
own
boat, you can make out that there is an electrical cable inside the
hose.
I asked Olivier about this hose when we took delivery of the boat and
he
indicated that the hose was there to protect the cable inside, and
that
cable is the sonic speed indicator sensor/transmitter that is
imbedded in
the leading edge of the stub keel (i.e. the lower aft transducer of
the two
sonic speed transducers). At the forward end of the hose the cable
exits
and traversed starboard to route to the sonic speed computer that is
strapped under the shelf in the forward lower cupboard beside the
starboard
side saloon seat.

Olivier, if you see this, can you shed some light on how i t might be
possible (or not possible) to replace the sonic speed sensors (both
in the
stub-keel and the forward hull). It seems many of us have had
failure of
the transducers. Are the sensors in some sort of conduit that allow
them
to be pulled and replaced?

All the best,

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
lying Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas, USVI
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

No problem sh** happens.

Your help to me and the group has been priceless.

Thank You,

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

 

 

Eric,

Yes, makes total sense to me now.

Assuming it was a vent was a careless mistake, and had nothing to do with the graphic I prepared. I will be much more careful in the future.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 12, 2015 7:46 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

The reason I do not have this hose as Gary explains is that I do not have a sonic speed transducer.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

 

 

Hi all:

 

The hose in photo number 4 (labeled tank vent), is NOT a tank vent. It is a hose that exits at the inboard edge of the the aft locker under the table in the saloon.  

 

If you look closely in the picture, and you can check this on your own boat, you can make out that there is an electrical cable inside the hose.  I asked Olivier about this hose when we took deliver y of the boat and he indicated that the hose was there to protect the cable inside, and that cable is the sonic speed indicator sensor/transmitter that is imbedded in the leading edge of the stub keel (i.e. the lower aft transducer of the two sonic speed transducers). At the forward end of the hose the cable exits and traversed starboard to route to the sonic speed computer that is strapped under the shelf in the forward lower cupboard beside the starboard side saloon seat.

 

Olivier, if you see this, can you shed some light on how it might be possible (or not possible) to replace the sonic speed sensors (both in the stub-keel and the forward hull).  It seems many of us have had failure of the transducers.  Are the sensors in some sort of conduit that allow them to be pulled and replaced?  

 

All the best, 

 

Gary Silver

s/v Liahona  

lying Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas,  USVI

 

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

Yes, makes total sense to me now.

Assuming it was a vent was a careless mistake, and had nothing to do with the graphic I prepared. I will be much more careful in the future.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 12, 2015 7:46 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

The reason I do not have this hose as Gary explains is that I do not have a sonic speed transducer.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

 

 

Hi all:

 

The hose in photo number 4 (labeled tank vent), is NOT a tank vent. It is a hose that exits at the inboard edge of the the aft locker under the table in the saloon.  

 

If you look closely in the picture, and you can check this on your own boat, you can make out that there is an electrical cable inside the hose.  I asked Olivier about this hose when we took deliver y of the boat and he indicated that the hose was there to protect the cable inside, and that cable is the sonic speed indicator sensor/transmitter that is imbedded in the leading edge of the stub keel (i.e. the lower aft transducer of the two sonic speed transducers). At the forward end of the hose the cable exits and traversed starboard to route to the sonic speed computer that is strapped under the shelf in the forward lower cupboard beside the starboard side saloon seat.

 

Olivier, if you see this, can you shed some light on how it might be possible (or not possible) to replace the sonic speed sensors (both in the stub-keel and the forward hull).  It seems many of us have had failure of the transducers.  Are the sensors in some sort of conduit that allow them to be pulled and replaced?  

 

All the best, 

 

Gary Silver

s/v Liahona  

lying Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas,  USVI

 

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary is absolutely correct. Although I cannot see or feel a wire exiting this hose, when I shine a bright light on the hose, I can see a wire inside.

This vent comment was a side comment to the observations I made when opening and cleaning the fresh water tank's 3 ports. It was a quick and careless assumption on my part. I apologize for that assumption and will correct the graphic today.

This brings me back to my earlier comment to Eric that the only venting of the water tank is through the floating gauge pipe.

Gary, Boris at Amel told me that the sensors would have to be cut out of the hull. B&G told me they must be installed in matched pairs. At least we know where one of the sensor wires is routed.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 12, 2015 1:19 AM, "amelliahona" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hi all:


The hose in photo number 4 (labeled tank vent), is NOT a tank vent. It is a hose that exits at the inboard edge of the the aft locker under the table in the saloon.  

If you look closely in the picture, and you can check this on your own boat, you can make out that there is an electrical cable inside the hose.  I asked Olivier about this hose when we took delivery of the boat and he indicated that the hose was there to protect the cable inside, and that cable is the sonic speed indicator sensor/transmitter that is imbedded in the leading edge of the stub keel (i.e. the lower aft transducer of the two sonic speed transducers). At the forward end of the hose the cable exits and traversed starboard to route to the sonic speed computer that is strapped under the shelf in the forward lower cupboard beside the starboard side saloon seat.

Olivier, if you see this, can you shed some light on how i t might be possible (or not possible) to replace the sonic speed sensors (both in the stub-keel and the forward hull).  It seems many of us have had failure of the transducers.  Are the sensors in some sort of conduit that allow them to be pulled and replaced?  

All the best, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona  
lying Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas,  USVI
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

The reason I do not have this hose as Gary explains is that I do not have a sonic speed transducer.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bill- water tank vent

 

 

Hi all:

 

The hose in photo number 4 (labeled tank vent), is NOT a tank vent. It is a hose that exits at the inboard edge of the the aft locker under the table in the saloon.  

 

If you look closely in the picture, and you can check this on your own boat, you can make out that there is an electrical cable inside the hose.  I asked Olivier about this hose when we took delivery of the boat and he indicated that the hose was there to protect the cable inside, and that cable is the sonic speed indicator sensor/transmitter that is imbedded in the leading edge of the stub keel (i.e. the lower aft transducer of the two sonic speed transducers). At the forward end of the hose the cable exits and traversed starboard to route to the sonic speed computer that is strapped under the shelf in the forward lower cupboard beside the starboard side saloon seat.

 

Olivier, if you see this, can you shed some light on how it might be possible (or not possible) to replace the sonic speed sensors (both in the stub-keel and the forward hull).  It seems many of us have had failure of the transducers.  Are the sensors in some sort of conduit that allow them to be pulled and replaced?  

 

All the best, 

 

Gary Silver

s/v Liahona  

lying Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas,  USVI

 

 
Re: Bill- water tank vent

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi all:

The hose in photo number 4 (labeled tank vent), is NOT a tank vent. It is a hose that exits at the inboard edge of the the aft locker under the table in the saloon.  

If you look closely in the picture, and you can check this on your own boat, you can make out that there is an electrical cable inside the hose.  I asked Olivier about this hose when we took delivery of the boat and he indicated that the hose was there to protect the cable inside, and that cable is the sonic speed indicator sensor/transmitter that is imbedded in the leading edge of the stub keel (i.e. the lower aft transducer of the two sonic speed transducers). At the forward end of the hose the cable exits and traversed starboard to route to the sonic speed computer that is strapped under the shelf in the forward lower cupboard beside the starboard side saloon seat.

Olivier, if you see this, can you shed some light on how it might be possible (or not possible) to replace the sonic speed sensors (both in the stub-keel and the forward hull).  It seems many of us have had failure of the transducers.  Are the sensors in some sort of conduit that allow them to be pulled and replaced?  

All the best, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona  
lying Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas,  USVI
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent

karkauai
 

If the air is constant (not short lived) I'd be looking for a loose connection between the tank and the pump.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



On Apr 11, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon,

reading with interest all the posts as I was planning on cleaning my water tank.

When I open the faucet I have air coming as well. Not sure how to solve this.
Does it mean I need to rebuild the water pump? Or is something not tight somewhere?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Florida.

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 4/11/15, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, April 11, 2015, 11:44 AM


 









Bill,Is it in the aft
storage locker under the dining table.?I never noticed it
there.Years ago I spoke with
the lady who used to own one of the Big tank and head
companies. They called her the head lady.Her recommendation was
to clean the tank with Clorox flush.Then fill with water
and gallons of white vinegar then flush
again.It always worked for
me.Fair
WindsEric    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:13
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill-
water tank vent    Eric,OK. I posted that
photo a few years ago when I was opening all off the tank
inspection ports and cleaning. It was quite a project and
really not worth it because the tank can be cleaned with
chlorine added and then flushed several times to get the
chlorine out. On BeBe, 387, you will see this when
the aft floor locker under the dining table is opened. The
hose is about two feet long and terminates with an open end
(venting) under the dining table at the highest point inside
that locker. Iam sure your SM has the same. Bill
Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent
from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy
Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice
MailOn Apr 11,
2015 11:16 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:  Bill,If you click on this
link an wait 30 seconds you can go to the 4th
photo.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/
albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#  From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:05
AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh
Water Pump accumulator tank  
Eric,The photo I posted this morning is
a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Befor ee Reya it was made
by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer
available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include
everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit
does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is
rare to have a failure of this part. I am not aware of a water tank
vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level
gauge pipe. Are you
referring to the supply line from the water tank to the
pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a
photo if you like.Bill
Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent
from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice MailOn
Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote: 
Bill, Nice photos-
thanks.Where is the water tank
vent hose located. I could not tell from the
photo.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57
AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh
Water Pump accumulator tank  
Kent, I
posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way
valve circled in red. Here: https://groups.yahoo.com/n
eo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/2138266662 However, the symptoms you
described indicate replacement of the accumulator
tank. If
the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way
valve or the pressure switch would be likely
suspects. Best advice is get a tank from
Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch
orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without
disassembly. BillBeBe
387










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon,

reading with interest all the posts as I was planning on cleaning my water tank.

When I open the faucet I have air coming as well. Not sure how to solve this.
Does it mean I need to rebuild the water pump? Or is something not tight somewhere?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Florida.


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 4/11/15, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, April 11, 2015, 11:44 AM


 









Bill,Is it in the aft
storage locker under the dining table.?I never noticed it
there.Years ago I spoke with
the lady who used to own one of the Big tank and head
companies. They called her the head lady.Her recommendation was
to clean the tank with Clorox flush.Then fill with water
and gallons of white vinegar then flush
again.It always worked for
me.Fair
WindsEric    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:13
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill-
water tank vent    Eric,OK. I posted that
photo a few years ago when I was opening all off the tank
inspection ports and cleaning. It was quite a project and
really not worth it because the tank can be cleaned with
chlorine added and then flushed several times to get the
chlorine out. On BeBe, 387, you will see this when
the aft floor locker under the dining table is opened. The
hose is about two feet long and terminates with an open end
(venting) under the dining table at the highest point inside
that locker. Iam sure your SM has the same. Bill
Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent
from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy
Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice
MailOn Apr 11,
2015 11:16 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:  Bill,If you click on this
link an wait 30 seconds you can go to the 4th
photo.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/
albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#  From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:05
AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh
Water Pump accumulator tank  
Eric,The photo I posted this morning is
a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Befor ee Reya it was made
by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer
available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include
everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit
does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is
rare to have a failure of this part. I am not aware of a water tank
vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level
gauge pipe. Are you
referring to the supply line from the water tank to the
pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a
photo if you like.Bill
Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent
from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice MailOn
Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote: 
Bill, Nice photos-
thanks.Where is the water tank
vent hose located. I could not tell from the
photo.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376  From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57
AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh
Water Pump accumulator tank  
Kent, I
posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way
valve circled in red. Here: https://groups.yahoo.com/n
eo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/2138266662 However, the symptoms you
described indicate replacement of the accumulator
tank. If
the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way
valve or the pressure switch would be likely
suspects. Best advice is get a tank from
Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch
orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without
disassembly. BillBeBe
387










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

Is it in the aft storage locker under the dining table.?

I never noticed it there.

Years ago I spoke with the lady who used to own one of the

Big tank and head companies. They called her the head lady.

Her recommendation was to clean the tank with Clorox flush.

Then fill with water and gallons of white vinegar then flush again.

It always worked for me.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 7:13 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent

 

 

Eric,

OK. I posted that photo a few years ago when I was opening all off the tank inspection ports and cleaning. It was quite a project and really not worth it because the tank can be cleaned with chlorine added and then flushed several times to get the chlorine out.

On BeBe, 387, you will see this when the aft floor locker under the dining table is opened. The hose is about two feet long and terminates with an open end (venting) under the dining table at the highest point inside that locker. Iam sure your SM has the same.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 11:16 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

If you click on this link an wait 30 seconds you can go to the 4th photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/ albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Eric,

The photo I posted this morning is a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Befor ee Reya it was made by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is rare to have a failure of this part.

I am not aware of a water tank vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level gauge pipe.

Are you referring to the supply line from the water tank to the pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a photo if you like.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

Nice photos- thanks.

Where is the water tank vent hose located. I could not tell from the photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Kent,

 

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 

 

However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

 

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

 

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

karkauai
 

Hi Steve,
That's a great offer. I'm not on the boat til Tuesday. Let me do a little more investigation and I'll get back to you.  Since my issue only occurs when using water, and is resolved temporarily by pumping air into the tank, I'm pretty sure it's a failed bladder.

Thanks for your pics and explanation Bill.  Just when I think I understand something, Y'all teach me something else.
Very cool.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Apr 11, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,
When our pump showed symptoms like yours on the way back from Guatamala, it was the one way valve. We happened to have a spare on board, and it solved the issue. I'm out of town for a few days, but will be in St Augustine Tuesday, and can give you the one way valve. We replace our pump recently with something else, and I have the old pump and one way valve. 

Steve
S/V Aloha SM 72
At Augustine, Florida 
Re: Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

peacock@...
 

Hi Kent,

You might consider replacing it with a Shurflo, the model I think might be Aqua King 2.0; I’d have to check my boat to be sure. Here are the pluses:

1. It’s a demand pump, which means you don’t need the accumulator at all
2. It’s very quiet
3. It’s foot print seems to fit very nicely onto the mounting/vibration platform that exists for the current pump.
4. About $100

The only downside is I haven't been able too figure out how to wire it so that the green water pump indicator lamp on the 24V panel lights up. Major fear is a small leak in the fresh water system out at sea, pump staying on unnoticed, and then an empty water tank.

Hope to see you at the Chesapeake rally in Kristy this time instead of a paddle board. Pat, are you organizing this?

Tom Peacock
Aletes, SM #240
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Kent,
When our pump showed symptoms like yours on the way back from Guatamala, it was the one way valve. We happened to have a spare on board, and it solved the issue. I'm out of town for a few days, but will be in St Augustine Tuesday, and can give you the one way valve. We replace our pump recently with something else, and I have the old pump and one way valve. 

Steve
S/V Aloha SM 72
At Augustine, Florida 


On Apr 10, 2015, at 20:17, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm looking at the schematic for my pump and don't see a one-way valve.  Is it at the tank fitting?  Guess I'm unclear how it's supposed to work.

Kent
SM243
Kristy.


On Apr 10, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Dimitris Krasopoulos dkrasopoulos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The problem is in the valve on the accumulator tank it can be teplaced very easily


On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Pat,
I'll let you know what I figure out.
Kent


On Apr 10, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent, I have the same problem, I figured that if the bladder failed the entire tank would fill with water and it would be as though I had no tank at all ,the tank would be no different than an extension of  the tubing . In a house when the cold water tank loses it air and becomes water bound the pump does not cycle on and off, however the pump comes on as soon as you use any water , even a cup. I have a Jabsco SensorMax 17 variable speed pump. It has been coming on for about two seconds every minute and I have no leaks. Jabsco tech said it could likely be an internal leak inside the pump that would cause it to cycle. I did not completely understand his explanation but he seemed to know pumps . I am taking a new pump down with us in a couple weeks when we return to the boat in Tortola. The tech guy agreed with my assumption that the tank would fill with water and would not cause it to cycle.
 Pat SM Shenanigans
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2015 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 
Hi Alexandre,
I believe this is the original pump so it has lasted about 15 years.  The pump is still working, but it only stops for a second or two before it kicks back on again with any water being used.  I checked the pipe to the pressure switch and it was wide open with no accumulated mineral deposits.  I pumped some air into the back of the tank and it worked fine again until the next day when I had to put more air in the tank.  I'm pretty sure that means the bladder has failed.

I don't think this is much of a problem since I've totally ignored my fresh water system for all 6 years I've owned the boat and it has worked flawlessly.  I just need to find a replacement tank or bladder.

Kent
SM243
Kristy



On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Good afternoon Kent,
Sorry to read about your fresh water accumulator’s bladder problem.
I got my spare accumulator from Amel Martinique.
Then had to find some fitting (all metrics) was not easy.
Don’t know if the bladder can be changed.
What were the symptoms of the failure?
Good luck to you, you seem to have had your share of problem during the last months…
Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
in Repair & maintenance in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA
Leaving at the end of the month to Grand Bahama, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 4/9/15, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015, 6:57 PM


 









Hi All,
The bladder has failed in
my fresh water accumulator tank.  It's the 2liter
stainless tank attached to the original Feit pump AMFA
66B-K.

Does anyone have a
US source for parts?  I've contacted a couple places
that looked promising, but no reply yet.  Does anyone know
if the bladder can be changed without replacing the tank? 
The bladder is listed on my information as a separate part,
so I'm guessing it can be replaced separately.

Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bill- water tank vent

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

OK. I posted that photo a few years ago when I was opening all off the tank inspection ports and cleaning. It was quite a project and really not worth it because the tank can be cleaned with chlorine added and then flushed several times to get the chlorine out.

On BeBe, 387, you will see this when the aft floor locker under the dining table is opened. The hose is about two feet long and terminates with an open end (venting) under the dining table at the highest point inside that locker. Iam sure your SM has the same.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 11:16 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

If you click on this link an wait 30 seconds you can go to the 4th photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/ albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Eric,

The photo I posted this morning is a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Befor ee Reya it was made by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is rare to have a failure of this part.

I am not aware of a water tank vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level gauge pipe.

Are you referring to the supply line from the water tank to the pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a photo if you like.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

Nice photos- thanks.

Where is the water tank vent hose located. I could not tell from the photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Kent,

 

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 

 

However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

 

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

 

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387
Bill- water tank vent

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

If you click on this link an wait 30 seconds you can go to the 4th photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/364756240/lightbox/2138266662?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Eric,

The photo I posted this morning is a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Beforee Reya it was made by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is rare to have a failure of this part.

I am not aware of a water tank vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level gauge pipe.

Are you referring to the supply line from the water tank to the pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a photo if you like.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

Nice photos- thanks.

Where is the water tank vent hose located. I could not tell from the photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Kent,

 

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 

 

However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

 

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

 

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

HI Bill,

If you go to the 4th photo in the series in your link you will see a reinforced pipe which you labeled water tank vent, there is also a plug in the area that you surmised might be a input to the water tank for a desalinator you  labeled “water tank access.”

There is another area of the photo that says –“vent hose end very near fiberglass”.

Where is this hose located?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Eric,

The photo I posted this morning is a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Beforee Reya it was made by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is rare to have a failure of this part.

I am not aware of a water tank vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level gauge pipe.

Are you referring to the supply line from the water tank to the pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a photo if you like.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

Nice photos- thanks.

Where is the water tank vent hose located. I could not tell from the photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Kent,

 

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 

 

However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

 

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

 

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

The photo I posted this morning is a blow-up of the 66B pump by Reya. Beforee Reya it was made by A.M.F.A. I believe that the 66B pump is no longer available, but Amel has overhaul kits that will include everything you might need except for new bearings. The kit does not supply the check valve either, but I believe it is rare to have a failure of this part.

I am not aware of a water tank vent, other than the venting performed by the tank level gauge pipe.

Are you referring to the supply line from the water tank to the pump? It would not be in this drawing, but I can take a photo if you like.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 11, 2015 8:05 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

Nice photos- thanks.

Where is the water tank vent hose located. I could not tell from the photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Kent,

 

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 

 

However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

 

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

 

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

Nice photos- thanks.

Where is the water tank vent hose located. I could not tell from the photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

 

 

Kent,

 

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 

 

However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

 

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

 

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

 

Bill

BeBe 387
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fresh Water Pump accumulator tank

yahoogroups@...
 

Kent,

I posted a blow-up of Fresh Water Pump 66B with the one-way valve circled in red.

 
However, the symptoms you described indicate replacement of the accumulator tank.

If the pump was cycling without any faucet opening, the one way valve or the pressure switch would be likely suspects.

Best advice is get a tank from Amel. When you install it take a look at the pressure switch orifice...it will need cleaning. You can clean it without disassembly.

Bill
BeBe 387
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