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alexandre- espar heater

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Alexandre,

I see that your locker is empty.

I am looking to fabricate a mounting bracket for my espar heater.

If it is not too inconvenient would you please take a few photos if possible of the mounting bracket.

Also does your bracket have one or two supporting bars between the horizontal section and the vertical section?

Is the heater sitting against the wood that it is mounted to or is there a small space? If there is a space how large is it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installing the Dive Compressor

 

 

Good afternoon Leopold,

I took some pictures and made a drawing.
I hope this will help you.

Here is a link with all the information, measurements I took.
http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html

If you need other things, let me know.
Next few days are going to be a little busy as i am sailing Friday night or Saturday morning to Grand Bahama.
Still have lots of little things to do (fill up propane, pick up parts, etc. provisioning, etc.
But I will be in Port Lucaya Saturday or Sunday and will be able to take more pictures, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Repair finished, provisioning in Fort Lauderdale.

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 4/26/15, leopold.hauer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installing the Dive Compressor
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2015, 7:20 AM


 










Hi to everyone and
the NIKIMAT- owner,I saw the picture of
the dive-compressor installation by NIKIMAT and would like
to do the same on my SM#69 .Could you
give me the measurements please? Mainly the size of the
playwood on which it is fixed and the lenght of the
rails would be important for me
because I would like to prepare it at
home.
Second question: does
anyone know the size or the type of the coal of the outhaul-
motor?
Thanks for your
help,

Leo
SM#69 Yin
Yang











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Sharki bow thruster

Rosario Romano <rosario.romano50@...>
 

Hello everyone,

thank you for accepting me in the Group.

My name is Rosario Romano, I am Italian and happy owner of “FINALMENTE’ 1989 Amel Sharki no 173.

I am coming out from 18 months shipyard works for masts repainting, new rigging, new holding tank, new wc and general maintenance.

I have just put the boat back in the water and unfortunately I found the bow thruster stuck in its top position. It is a model Bison of “Propulseur d’etrave Martin”.

Apparently there are no longer spare parts available and the company disappeared. I have written to Amel Med, but the secretary is on holiday. I hope in a answer in two weeks time.

I wonder if some other "Amelien" or "Sharkien" can help with experience, information and whatever you can provide.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installing the Dive Compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Leopold,

I took some pictures and made a drawing.
I hope this will help you.

Here is a link with all the information, measurements I took.
http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html

If you need other things, let me know.
Next few days are going to be a little busy as i am sailing Friday night or Saturday morning to Grand Bahama.
Still have lots of little things to do (fill up propane, pick up parts, etc. provisioning, etc.
But I will be in Port Lucaya Saturday or Sunday and will be able to take more pictures, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Repair finished, provisioning in Fort Lauderdale.



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 4/26/15, leopold.hauer@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installing the Dive Compressor
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2015, 7:20 AM


 










Hi to everyone and
the NIKIMAT- owner,I saw the picture of
the dive-compressor installation by NIKIMAT and would like
to do the same on my SM#69 .Could you
give me the measurements please? Mainly the size of the
playwood on which it is fixed and the lenght of the
rails would be important for me
because I would like to prepare it at
home.
Second question: does
anyone know the size or the type of the coal of the outhaul-
motor?
Thanks for your
help,

Leo
SM#69 Yin
Yang











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Installing the Dive Compressor

Leopold Hauer
 


Hi to everyone and the NIKIMAT- owner,

I saw the picture of the dive-compressor installation by NIKIMAT and would like to do the same on my SM#69 .

Could you give me the measurements please? Mainly the size of the playwood on which it is fixed and the lenght of the rails would be important for me because I would like to prepare it at home.


Second question: does anyone know the size or the type of the coal of the outhaul- motor?


Thanks for your help,



Leo


SM#69 Yin Yang




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

William Maffei <william_maffei@...>
 

Found out the boat is running a H6 (not H5 like originally stated) autoprop purchased in 07 Nov, 2014. Chances are something is caught on the prop. Will know more tomorrow morning EST. 




On Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:00 AM, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I have documents from Bruntons that recommend bearing and seal replacement every 1000 engine hours
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 

From: "sailormon kimberlite@optonline..net [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 
I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
Bill,
One more thing.
I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

karkauai
 

Aha!!!  More evidence that my old Volvo 78 HP with the bigger AutoProp was over propped!  I couldn't get Bruntons to put it in writing, but that's what they told me verbally.

I still have the prop that came on the boat 
serial no. AP2735LH
If anyone is interested I'll be happy to sell it for a good price.
Contact me directly at karkauai at yahoo dot com
Or call 828-234-6819
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Apr 25, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric
Thanks for the update. Our old prop is on the recall list. We are contacting  AB Marine in RI.
On a further note we upgraded the engine to a 100HP Yanmar from 75HP and were advised by Autoprop we had to replace our H6 prop with a larger diameter prop as it would not work with the 100HP. They further stated that the they had advised AMEL of this on numerous occasions and AMEL would not increase the size to accommodate the larger HP engines. When we asked at AMEL they stated that they knew the vessel better than Brutons.  We changed as Yanmar would not warranty the engine without the changed prop.
Haven't done a comparison in props since the change. Maybe one day when we have to repair/rebuild the current prop.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
Currently in Grenada
SV NOMAD 1 SM #362

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 06:10:32 -0400
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

 
To perhaps bracket the SM hull #'s with potential exposure to this defect,
Aletes, hull #240, laid up in 1999 has Autoprop #AP2665, apparently
manufactured prior to this issue.

Mike Ondra

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

Here is a letter from Brutons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Autoprop Issues Recall Brunton's Propellers is initiating a product
recall, as a precautionary measure, based on customer reports and in-house
technical inspection. Their recall letter follows:The recall is necessary
because of a small number of instances where, through lack of maintenance or
poor assembly, blades on early propellers have become loose. Premature wear
to the blade mechanism may, in an exceptional circumstance, result in the
blade working loose. Using the Autoprop under such conditions over long
periods of time may lead to potential breakdown of the locking washer
securing the blade to the hub. This situation will only occur on certain
size Autoprops with a serial number between AP2902 and AP5299, purchased
between 9/9/98 and 1/1/02.

Please check whether your Autoprop falls within this range. The number
appears on the palm of the blade. If it does, contact your local dealer or
the autoprop office in England. We can confirm whether your Autoprop is
affected or not.

As part of our ongoing product development plan, to enhance performance and
ease maintenance, a new blade locking mechanism has been introduced. This
mechanism is now being fitted to all roller bearing style Autoprops.

Brunton's Propellers intends to take the following steps to address this

situation:

1. Modification of the bearing retaining and locking mechanism.

2. Free upgrade to new style locking mechanism for all Autoprop user covered
under our warranty policy.

3. New generation lip seal fitted free of charge with all upgrades.

4. Worldwide support network of dealers and service agents for local
assistance and advice.

We appreciate the difficulty in assessing this situation, particularly if
your yacht is afloat. If your Autoprop does need technical attention related
to this recall, we will endeavour to make arrangements to upgrade it with
minimum disruption to your sailing schedule.

If you would like further clarification, or to talk about how any of the
above points may affect you, please contact our head office on 44(0) 1225
427511, service@..., or your local Autoprop dealer.

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point
that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp
engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not
know their experience positive or negative.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Is it possible that you are mistaken? I am fairly certain that your boat with the 75hp came with the H5. BeBe #387 (very close to yours and Eric's came with a H6, but BeBe was built with a 100hp Yanmar. I am fairly sure that the 75hp came with a H5.

And, I would think that Amel would know more about the requirements than Bruntons. I am guessing that Bruntons has very little experience with a keel, hull, and propeller shaft design that Amel uses.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Apr 25, 2015 5:23 PM, "Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Eric
Thanks for the update. Our old prop is on the recall list. We are contacting  AB Marine in RI.
On a further note we upgraded the engine to a 100HP Yanmar from 75HP and were advised by Autoprop we had to replace our H6 prop with a larger diameter prop as it would not work with the 100HP. They further stated that the they had advised AMEL of this on numerous occasions and AMEL would not increase the size to accommodate the larger HP engines. When we asked at AMEL they stated that they knew the vessel better than Brutons.  We changed as Yanmar would not warranty the engine without the changed prop.
Haven't done a comparison in props since the change. Maybe one day when we have to repair/rebuild the current prop.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
Currently in Grenada
SV NOMAD 1 SM #362

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 06:10:32 -0400
Subject: RE: [ Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

 
To perhaps bracket the SM hull #'s with potential exposure to this defect,
Aletes, hull #240, laid up in 1999 has Autoprop #AP2665, apparently
manufactured prior to this issue.

Mike Ondra

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

Here is a letter from Brutons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Autoprop Issues Recall Brunton's Propellers is initiating a product
recall, as a precautionary measure, based on customer reports and in-house
technical inspection. Their recall letter follows:The recall is necessary
because of a small number of instances where, through lack of maintenance or
poor assembly, blades on early propellers have become loose. Premature wear
to the blade mechanism may, in an exceptional circumstance, result in the
blade working loose. Using the Autoprop under such conditions over long
periods of time may lead to potential breakdown of the locking washer
securing the blade to the hub. This situation will only occur on certain
size Autoprops with a serial number between AP2902 and AP5299, purchased
between 9/9/98 and 1/1/02.

Please check whether your Autoprop falls within this range. The number
appears on the palm of the blade. If it does, contact your local dealer or
the autoprop office in England. We can confirm whether your Autoprop is
affected or not.

As part of our ongoing product development plan, to enhance performance and
ease maintenance, a new blade locking mechanism has been introduced. This
mechanism is now being fitted to all roller bearing style Autoprops.

Brunton's Propellers intends to take the following steps to address this

situation:

1. Modification of the bearing retaining and locking mechanism.

2. Free upgrade to new style locking mechanism for all Autoprop user covered
under our warranty policy.

3. New generation lip seal fitted free of charge with all upgrades.

4. Worldwide support network of dealers and service agents for local
assistance and advice.

We appreciate the difficulty in assessing this situation, particularly if
your yacht is afloat. If your Autoprop does need technical attention related
to this recall, we will endeavour to make arrangements to upgrade it with
minimum disruption to your sailing schedule.

If you would like further clarification, or to talk about how any of the
above points may affect you, please contact our head office on 44(0) 1225
427511, service@..., or your local Autoprop dealer.

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point
that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp
engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not
know their experience positive or negative.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Eric
Thanks for the update. Our old prop is on the recall list. We are contacting  AB Marine in RI.
On a further note we upgraded the engine to a 100HP Yanmar from 75HP and were advised by Autoprop we had to replace our H6 prop with a larger diameter prop as it would not work with the 100HP. They further stated that the they had advised AMEL of this on numerous occasions and AMEL would not increase the size to accommodate the larger HP engines. When we asked at AMEL they stated that they knew the vessel better than Brutons.  We changed as Yanmar would not warranty the engine without the changed prop.
Haven't done a comparison in props since the change. Maybe one day when we have to repair/rebuild the current prop.
Paul & Susan LaFrance
Currently in Grenada
SV NOMAD 1 SM #362

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 06:10:32 -0400
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

 
To perhaps bracket the SM hull #'s with potential exposure to this defect,
Aletes, hull #240, laid up in 1999 has Autoprop #AP2665, apparently
manufactured prior to this issue.

Mike Ondra

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

Here is a letter from Brutons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Autoprop Issues Recall Brunton's Propellers is initiating a product
recall, as a precautionary measure, based on customer reports and in-house
technical inspection. Their recall letter follows:The recall is necessary
because of a small number of instances where, through lack of maintenance or
poor assembly, blades on early propellers have become loose. Premature wear
to the blade mechanism may, in an exceptional circumstance, result in the
blade working loose. Using the Autoprop under such conditions over long
periods of time may lead to potential breakdown of the locking washer
securing the blade to the hub. This situation will only occur on certain
size Autoprops with a serial number between AP2902 and AP5299, purchased
between 9/9/98 and 1/1/02.

Please check whether your Autoprop falls within this range. The number
appears on the palm of the blade. If it does, contact your local dealer or
the autoprop office in England. We can confirm whether your Autoprop is
affected or not.

As part of our ongoing product development plan, to enhance performance and
ease maintenance, a new blade locking mechanism has been introduced. This
mechanism is now being fitted to all roller bearing style Autoprops.

Brunton's Propellers intends to take the following steps to address this

situation:

1. Modification of the bearing retaining and locking mechanism.

2. Free upgrade to new style locking mechanism for all Autoprop user covered
under our warranty policy.

3. New generation lip seal fitted free of charge with all upgrades.

4. Worldwide support network of dealers and service agents for local
assistance and advice.

We appreciate the difficulty in assessing this situation, particularly if
your yacht is afloat. If your Autoprop does need technical attention related
to this recall, we will endeavour to make arrangements to upgrade it with
minimum disruption to your sailing schedule.

If you would like further clarification, or to talk about how any of the
above points may affect you, please contact our head office on 44(0) 1225
427511, service@..., or your local Autoprop dealer.

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point
that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp
engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not
know their experience positive or negative.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop

Mike Ondra
 

To perhaps bracket the SM hull #'s with potential exposure to this defect,
Aletes, hull #240, laid up in 1999 has Autoprop #AP2665, apparently
manufactured prior to this issue.



Mike Ondra



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] I had a defective prop





Here is a letter from Brutons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376





Autoprop Issues Recall Brunton's Propellers is initiating a product
recall, as a precautionary measure, based on customer reports and in-house
technical inspection. Their recall letter follows:The recall is necessary
because of a small number of instances where, through lack of maintenance or
poor assembly, blades on early propellers have become loose. Premature wear
to the blade mechanism may, in an exceptional circumstance, result in the
blade working loose. Using the Autoprop under such conditions over long
periods of time may lead to potential breakdown of the locking washer
securing the blade to the hub. This situation will only occur on certain
size Autoprops with a serial number between AP2902 and AP5299, purchased
between 9/9/98 and 1/1/02.

Please check whether your Autoprop falls within this range. The number
appears on the palm of the blade. If it does, contact your local dealer or
the autoprop office in England. We can confirm whether your Autoprop is
affected or not.



As part of our ongoing product development plan, to enhance performance and
ease maintenance, a new blade locking mechanism has been introduced. This
mechanism is now being fitted to all roller bearing style Autoprops.



Brunton's Propellers intends to take the following steps to address this

situation:



1. Modification of the bearing retaining and locking mechanism.

2. Free upgrade to new style locking mechanism for all Autoprop user covered
under our warranty policy.

3. New generation lip seal fitted free of charge with all upgrades.

4. Worldwide support network of dealers and service agents for local
assistance and advice.



We appreciate the difficulty in assessing this situation, particularly if
your yacht is afloat. If your Autoprop does need technical attention related
to this recall, we will endeavour to make arrangements to upgrade it with
minimum disruption to your sailing schedule.



If you would like further clarification, or to talk about how any of the
above points may affect you, please contact our head office on 44(0) 1225
427511, service@bruntons.com, or your local Autoprop dealer.







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft





Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point
that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp
engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not
know their experience positive or negative.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I have documents from Bruntons that recommend bearing and seal replacement every 1000 engine hours
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 


From: "sailormon kimberlite@optonline..net [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 
I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft
 
 
Bill,
One more thing.
I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Eric Freedman
 

I have 4500 hours on the prop and engine and have rebuilt the prop twice.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Eric Freedman
 

I have the H5 on my 100 hp yanmar.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


I had a defective prop

Eric Freedman
 

Here is a letter from Brutons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

Autoprop Issues Recall   Brunton's Propellers is initiating a product recall, as a precautionary measure, based on customer reports and in-house technical inspection. Their recall letter follows:The recall is necessary because of a small number of instances where, through lack of maintenance or poor assembly, blades on early propellers have become loose. Premature wear to the blade mechanism may, in an exceptional circumstance, result in the blade working loose. Using the Autoprop under such conditions over long periods of time may lead to potential breakdown of the locking washer securing the blade to the hub. This situation will only occur on certain size Autoprops with a serial number between AP2902 and AP5299, purchased between 9/9/98 and 1/1/02.

Please check whether your Autoprop falls within this range. The number appears on the palm of the blade. If it does, contact your local dealer or the autoprop office in England. We can confirm whether your Autoprop is affected or not.

 

As part of our ongoing product development plan, to enhance performance and ease maintenance, a new blade locking mechanism has been introduced. This mechanism is now being fitted to all roller bearing style Autoprops.

 

Brunton's Propellers intends to take the following steps to address this

situation:

 

1. Modification of the bearing retaining and locking mechanism.

2. Free upgrade to new style locking mechanism for all Autoprop user covered under our warranty policy.

3. New generation lip seal fitted free of charge with all upgrades.

4. Worldwide support network of dealers and service agents for local assistance and advice.

 

We appreciate the difficulty in assessing this situation, particularly if your yacht is afloat. If your Autoprop does need technical attention related to this recall, we will endeavour to make arrangements to upgrade it with minimum disruption to your sailing schedule.

 

If you would like further clarification, or to talk about how any of the above points may affect you, please contact our head office on 44(0) 1225 427511, service@..., or your local Autoprop dealer.

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

 

 

Bill,

One more thing.

I am fairly sure that AutoProp is undersized for that engine. At some point that boat was repowered. An AutoProp H6 would be appropriate for a 110hp engine. I have known other SMs to keep the undersized propeller, but do not know their experience positive or negative.  

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

William Maffei <william_maffei@...>
 

Olivier,

Thanks so much for this helpful information!!! I will have a better idea what is going on when the boat gets to Malta. Everyone's comments are greatly appreciated. I did do some more research and the H5 is not the correct prop for this engine. Things like this absolutely drive me insane. I have no toleration for jobs done half asked just to save money. This is exactly what happens when the "short" way of fixing something happens. I have no idea if the crew jumped in the water to assess the prop but that would seem like the most logical thing to do and what I would have done immediately. Again, I am not there for this. I have all the faith in the captain that I hired of the job and can only assume they have done so. 

Again, please keep the comments coming along if there are anymore suggestions out there. I will keep you all posted when the boat is in Malta. 

Thanks again,

Bill
It's all Good
SM #195



On Friday, April 24, 2015 2:42 PM, "Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Bill (It's all good),

the 1997 SM were not equipped with hydraulic gearboxes, and therefore don't have shaft brakes.
When the engine was replaced, what kind of gearbox was installed? Mechanic or hydraulic?

To start with the beginning, as we say in France, did someone dive to check if anything was caught in the prop?
As you mention, with engine off, throttle in neutral (and if you don't have a shaft brake system), your prop turns because of the water flow. If a piece of fishing net is caught in the prop, it turns with vibrations.
If a bearing of one blade of the AUTOPROP is seized, it will also turn with vibrations.In my opinion, the problem has nothing to do with the diesel engine condition.

In light winds as they had today, your crew should go diving and inspect the prop.
Do you know if, when the prop shakes the boat, the shaft that can be seen in the engine room turns also?

Good luck.

Olivier



On Friday, April 24, 2015 7:19 PM, "seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Bill,
      Gear box fluid, transmission nuts and bolts at the coupler, engine bolts where they fit to the angle iron frame and the engine mounts themselves,all need checked.
The G5 prop is not normal for a Super Maramu and it needs serviced more regularly than the H6.
Brompton told me this only two months ago.
The worst vibrations that I ever experienced turned out to be a sized gearbox due to the transmission heat exchanger failing and dumping the fluid, but the vibrations occurred  only when the gearbox was engaged with the engine running.
It is really important to find out when the 110 hp Yanmar was fitted did they retain/install a shaft brake which will rule the prop in or out.
Sorry this reply is a bit tardy but anyone of the above could be part of your problem.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
In Mexico








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

Beaute Olivier
 

Hi Bill (It's all good),

the 1997 SM were not equipped with hydraulic gearboxes, and therefore don't have shaft brakes.
When the engine was replaced, what kind of gearbox was installed? Mechanic or hydraulic?

To start with the beginning, as we say in France, did someone dive to check if anything was caught in the prop?
As you mention, with engine off, throttle in neutral (and if you don't have a shaft brake system), your prop turns because of the water flow. If a piece of fishing net is caught in the prop, it turns with vibrations.
If a bearing of one blade of the AUTOPROP is seized, it will also turn with vibrations.In my opinion, the problem has nothing to do with the diesel engine condition.

In light winds as they had today, your crew should go diving and inspect the prop.
Do you know if, when the prop shakes the boat, the shaft that can be seen in the engine room turns also?

Good luck.

Olivier



On Friday, April 24, 2015 7:19 PM, "seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Bill,
      Gear box fluid, transmission nuts and bolts at the coupler, engine bolts where they fit to the angle iron frame and the engine mounts themselves,all need checked.
The G5 prop is not normal for a Super Maramu and it needs serviced more regularly than the H6.
Brompton told me this only two months ago.
The worst vibrations that I ever experienced turned out to be a sized gearbox due to the transmission heat exchanger failing and dumping the fluid, but the vibrations occurred  only when the gearbox was engaged with the engine running.
It is really important to find out when the 110 hp Yanmar was fitted did they retain/install a shaft brake which will rule the prop in or out.
Sorry this reply is a bit tardy but anyone of the above could be part of your problem.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
In Mexico






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bad Vibration in the prop drive shaft

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Bill,
      Gear box fluid, transmission nuts and bolts at the coupler, engine bolts where they fit to the angle iron frame and the engine mounts themselves,all need checked.
The G5 prop is not normal for a Super Maramu and it needs serviced more regularly than the H6.
Brompton told me this only two months ago.
The worst vibrations that I ever experienced turned out to be a sized gearbox due to the transmission heat exchanger failing and dumping the fluid, but the vibrations occurred  only when the gearbox was engaged with the engine running.
It is really important to find out when the 110 hp Yanmar was fitted did they retain/install a shaft brake which will rule the prop in or out.
Sorry this reply is a bit tardy but anyone of the above could be part of your problem.
Good luck.
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
In Mexico




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Size of the cockpit locker

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello! tried to answer yesterday from my phone, but it disappeared in the cyber space, try again
the model is called SCUBA BOX water proof box from kis.it 78x40x35 cm, retail in Sweden around 20 €
regards
Paul on S/Y Kerpa 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster fairing

Charles Macdonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

My boat (Inuit) is anchored in Le Marigot
Charles


On 23/04/2015 18:04, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
 
 
   

Charles,
Where is your boat?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster fairing

  

Erci,
Thanks again. I plan to be in Saint Martin on 6 May, departing 10 May or so for the crossing.
Charles




On 23/04/2015 08:47, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
 
 
   

Charles,
Kimberlite is in St Maarten Simpson Bay Marina. When do you plan on being on Board?
I will be down in a few weeks. I could give you a hand with the faring- Naomi is in the office at Bobby’s- mention me and Kimberlite. Remember Bobby’s in Simpson Bay that the noes in the Lagoon.
 
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster fairing

  

Good advice. Thanks and Eric too. will take action as soon as I am back in St Martin,

Charles

 

 

 

 

On 23 Apr, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


  

 

Good morning,

 

first of all, these GRP hull shaped fairings are all different (as all AMEL models have different hulls).

This means a new mould for a Maramu cannot be made out of a Santorin hull.

 

You probably all know the design of the bow-thruster: above the gear-box and shaft tube, a strong GRP rectangle part is guiding the unit inside the well and counter-force the thrust when the bow-thruster is down.

This is the part that squeezes both foam seals under the well's top.

Charles, as long as your seals are in good condition and correctly squeezed (the lifting cable must be tensioned when in the up position), water will not come in more than when the fairing is in place.

The fairing is not more watertight than the big rectangle GRP bearing. Don't forget to put the securing pin before going sailing.

 

Now, I'm sure that any good shipyard in St-Marteen (thank you Eric) can make such a V-shaped part. Fortunately, AMEL is not the only shipyard on Earth to be able to repair GRP.

Charles, you should have it repaired locally before your Atlantic crossing because it will be better for your average speed....

 

Bon courage.

 

Olivier

 
 

 

On Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:59 AM, "Charles Macdonald c.macdonald@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


  

Thanks Alan, I sure will be glad to have pictures when it comes to fixing this problem. Not sure yet how and when I am going to do it.
Too bad about Amel not answering. If you get through Christian Dufourd he will do his best. He actually did go through the motions of finding the mold, but without success. We owners of old models are not worth much attention financially. So it goes .....
Charles
Inuit
Maramu #253

 

 
 

 
   


   



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: wire halyard

amelforme
 

As reel halyard winches and wire halyards are antique technology, fairly dangerous to operate ( especially by anyone unfamiliar with the tendency they have to remove teeth ) replacement with a stronger modern specialty rope halyard and a self-tailing winch makes absolute sense.



Thoughtful, well consider modifications to elder Amel’s can be a good thing and the experienced sailors in this group will not hesitate to provide guidance. None of us have a real opinion about anything, you might have noticed!



Have fun with your Amel.



All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE AMEL GUY

954 462 5869







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Similar boat (LOL)...I've also received advice to replace but hesitant.



Has anyone done this on a Maramu or Sharki (mine is a 82 Maramu).



Best,

Jer







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Re: wire halyard

mr_hermanns
 

Similar boat (LOL)...I've also received advice to replace but hesitant.

Has anyone done this on a Maramu or Sharki (mine is a 82 Maramu).

Best,
Jer