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Re: FW: refrigerator/freezer access

Jose Venegas
 

Ann-Sofie & Jonas,

Could you please provide me with the information of the parts you used to upgrade your freezer and where you bought them?  

Ipanema SM2K 278
Constitution Marina
Boston, USA
Not yet recovered from the deep freeze.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We haven't weight ours properly, but the crane in Gilleleje, Denmark which was for 18 tons could only lift us without diesel, water, beer (!), dinghy outboard etc. 

Take your stuff aboard now, after a while you will,sort things out and get rid of it. Don't know how much "good-to-have" things we have left behind in garbage bins along the road. But I think it has to be like this, because you don't know how it is to live on a boat with minimal amount of things. And the amount of minimal things changes over the years.
Looking forward to meet you out here again soon.

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232 present at the Azores

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3 maj 2015 kl. 10:26 skrev "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Thank you all

20 ton loaded sounds to my experience more reasonable, and I agree it's easy to overload. We are currently clearing off all our belongings after have sold our house. We have lived together for almost 30 years and collect fare to many things most of the not necessary at all, now we only save a few things for memory and some useful items for our kids which they could have use for when starting a family. 
We are currently loading a few (3) pallets with the remaining gears that we think we have use for under an undefined numbers of years aboard our Amel SM, at least half of it for the boat, tools, spare parts, outboard motor, ropes, etc cruising books, old classic books I never had time read, our cloth, guitar, and some household goods, all in all probably close to 1 ton of goods, My first thought was that one pallet would be enough, but now it looks as it will be three full pallets??????. In the worst case I have to throw away some items when loading the boat and find I have brought to much "nice to have" which I today consider need to have. I'm just entering the beginning of the learning curve of living aboard and cruising 
Regards 
Paul on S/Y Kerpa


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

We reduced the “useless clutter” to a minimum for the boat.  In fact, this was our starting point and we filled 3 large commercial bins when we took delivery of the boat last summer.  We continued the clear out this winter and again last month; we removed all electronics and replaced with modern kit.  100’s of feet of worn out rodes, halyards and sheets were also given the hiho.  

However, we added a gantry with solar panels and davits… we think we’ll be under 19t when done.  She’ll be weighed next time we haul out…

We are keeping a small apartment because the GF/Admiral is indeed a “hoarder”.  … but she’s cute!

What can we say?  :-)

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, SM 007



On 3 May 2015, at 11:25, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you all

20 ton loaded sounds to my experience more reasonable, and I agree it's easy to overload. We are currently clearing off all our belongings after have sold our house. We have lived together for almost 30 years and collect fare to many things most of the not necessary at all, now we only save a few things for memory and some useful items for our kids which they could have use for when starting a family. 
We are currently loading a few (3) pallets with the remaining gears that we think we have use for under an undefined numbers of years aboard our Amel SM, at least half of it for the boat, tools, spare parts, outboard motor, ropes, etc cruising books, old classic books I never had time read, our cloth, guitar, and some household goods, all in all probably close to 1 ton of goods, My first thought was that one pallet would be enough, but now it looks as it will be three full pallets??????. In the worst case I have to throw away some items when loading the boat and find I have brought to much "nice to have" which I today consider need to have. I'm just entering the beginning of the learning curve of living aboard and cruising 
Regards 
Paul on S/Y Kerpa




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sailing downwind with a parachute

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Ofer,

Still in Turkey?

I have an opinion supported by various languages defining this “thing” as either a Rube Goldberg in USA

A Kleuwmeldinge in Dutch 

Or a “patente à gosse” in French Canada.

I would not even think of such a contraption on any boat.  The flying fish would roll over laughing when they saw it!! 

:-)

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 3 May 2015, at 11:15, ofer magen ofermagen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi to all.
Please see the link:

Did anyone try it with an Amel?

Ofer Magen
Alba
A54 #160



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you all
20 ton loaded sounds to my experience more reasonable, and I agree it's easy to overload. We are currently clearing off all our belongings after have sold our house. We have lived together for almost 30 years and collect fare to many things most of the not necessary at all, now we only save a few things for memory and some useful items for our kids which they could have use for when starting a family. 
We are currently loading a few (3) pallets with the remaining gears that we think we have use for under an undefined numbers of years aboard our Amel SM, at least half of it for the boat, tools, spare parts, outboard motor, ropes, etc cruising books, old classic books I never had time read, our cloth, guitar, and some household goods, all in all probably close to 1 ton of goods, My first thought was that one pallet would be enough, but now it looks as it will be three full pallets??????. In the worst case I have to throw away some items when loading the boat and find I have brought to much "nice to have" which I today consider need to have. I'm just entering the beginning of the learning curve of living aboard and cruising 
Regards 
Paul on S/Y Kerpa


sailing downwind with a parachute

ofer magen
 

Hi to all.
Please see the link:

Did anyone try it with an Amel?

Ofer Magen
Alba
A54 #160


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Dear Paul,. 
               19.6 tons.wet,fully equipped for ocean crossing. The folklore is, had you purchased an early one, The Captain only sold them by weight, so you would have been sure to know.
Regards,
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM 425 Redline
Mexico
For Sale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

Beaute Olivier
 

Good evening Paul,

the last SMs (2000, from 2005) were weighted 15.3 tons empty (light displacement) which means without water, fuel and optionnal equipments (watermaker, extra batteries and charger, extra sails, extra electronics, extra awnings, etc..).
With all these equipments , water, fuel, your safety gear and personnal items, the total weight should not be above 20 tons. Above that, your SM will suffer overloading, which mainly means less speed and changes in the stability.
The SM and AMEL 54 are rather light, compared to the HR. This is due to the way their structure is built (cellular construction, stringers and bulkheads bonded to hull and deck).

Don't overload your boat with useless equipments (additional fuel tank...)

Olivier.



On Saturday, May 2, 2015 6:48 PM, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I’m wonder if someone has weighted an Amel Super Maramu when putting it on hard standing or similar? According to the Amel brochure the weight is 14 ton “empty” and 16 ton loaded. To me this looks very low, some comparison
HR 53                                            23 ton
Najad 520                                    20 ton
Oyster 485                                   17 ton
Oyster 51                                     21.7 ton
Sweden Yacht 42                        12 ton
 
All of the above are probably “empty” weight as very few builders give any other figure than empty boat.
I’m very curious what’s the real weight is

Paul on S/Y Kerpa




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

karkauai
 

Kristy was 20 tons loaded when hauled in Trinidad a few years ago.
Kent
SM243


On May 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I’m wonder if someone has weighted an Amel Super Maramu when putting it on hard standing or similar? According to the Amel brochure the weight is 14 ton “empty” and 16 ton loaded. To me this looks very low, some comparison

HR 53                                            23 ton

Najad 520                                    20 ton

Oyster 485                                   17 ton

Oyster 51                                     21.7 ton

Sweden Yacht 42                        12 ton

 

All of the above are probably “empty” weight as very few builders give any other figure than empty boat.

I’m very curious what’s the real weight is


Paul on S/Y Kerpa



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

eljaroellinghoff@...
 

He paul and Judy

In oktober when Balu is in the kran i konw it ture

Elja
Balu 222


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Weight/displacement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Usually skinny girls are better.

Don't fall for the weight is everything trap.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:47 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I’m wonder if someone has weighted an Amel Super Maramu when putting it on hard standing or similar? According to the Amel brochure the weight is 14 ton “empty” and 16 ton loaded. To me this looks very low, some comparison

HR 53                                            23 ton

Najad 520                                    20 ton

Oyster 485                                   17 ton

Oyster 51                                     21.7 ton

Sweden Yacht 42                        12 ton

 

All of the above are probably “empty” weight as very few builders give any other figure than empty boat.

I’m very curious what’s the real weight is


Paul on S/Y Kerpa




Weight/displacement

Paul Osterberg
 

I’m wonder if someone has weighted an Amel Super Maramu when putting it on hard standing or similar? According to the Amel brochure the weight is 14 ton “empty” and 16 ton loaded. To me this looks very low, some comparison

HR 53                                            23 ton

Najad 520                                    20 ton

Oyster 485                                   17 ton

Oyster 51                                     21.7 ton

Sweden Yacht 42                        12 ton

 

All of the above are probably “empty” weight as very few builders give any other figure than empty boat.

I’m very curious what’s the real weight is


Paul on S/Y Kerpa



Re: Original Rotary Drive with New Autopilot

jjjk12s@...
 

Craig,

 

I expect Andy is referring to the NECO drive from the Maramu so your Raymarine is probably a lot simpler to connect.

 

Andy,

 

I have thought about the same change but the NECO is still going so I haven't put anew computer on yet but would really like to connect the Simrad (same as the BandG). I see you seem to being saying the AC12N is the easiest unit to use but is its current capacity enough? Any help you can give with the wiring changes needed on the drive unit would be fantastic!

 

If don't have a proper understanding but sort of figure the static magnetic field in the motor is produced by a shunt and a series coil. The problem comes with reversing the direction as the current needs to be reversed on the series coil which is in series with the armature. So the motor wiring in the box has to be changed so that when the opposite rotation direction is needed the armature stays the same polarity but the series coil is reversed. This is getting way over my head and I may have got it all wrong. 

 

The other thing I'm not sure about, is that modern computers can activate either clutch or solenoid but some models only do one (maybe bigger ones designed mainly for hydraulic steering systems?). Which one is needed for the NECO or are both?

 

Any more clarity you can give would be great because I have just got confused and don't have a suitable electrical engineer to help.

 

Regards

John, Maramu #91

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

svsummerlove@...
 

Hi Leo,

If you go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/EUMENIA/ and download ET_GS 5005_5500.pdf, (Eudora Soba Geschirrspuler 5005/5500), you'll find on Seite 4 and Seite 5 (Tafel 2), "Pos in Tafel" 8 is a Programmt.Eaton M 5500 with ArtikelNr 034015.  That's where I found that part number, but I have no idea if that's how it's still identified or listed on their website.  It could be that timer is no longer made and the replacement has a different part number.  Those same pages also show a different program timer (Programmt. Siemens Mini 5005, with ArtikelNr 034000).  What's odd is that the serial number on my dishwasher is 5.384.754, which is higher than any of the serial numbers listed on that pdf.  It could be that this pdf is an older one for earlier vintage dishwashers.

The part number and info stamped on my program timer is: EC 4692.01 A 01  220/240V 50HZ T.70   6-00-36.

Please let me know what they tell you on Monday, but also please don't spend a lot of your own time trying to track this down for me.  I've spent a lot of time already and there's no guarantee the part even exists any longer.

Many thanks,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340

 

     


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Wash Pump Capacity

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Steve,

My problem was the PO had removed the anchor wash pump; I knew this when I bought the boat.  I tried to procure a pump to no avail.  Then as we plan a circumnavigation and my take was to modernize the things which could be done without moving away from the Amel philosophy, it became logical to add a connection to the boat’s fresh water system.  

Only meant a T fitting and a shut off valve after the union.  Works quite well… While I was at it, we ran another fresh water line to the forward part of the port lazarette and fitted a bayonet fitting; fresh water deck wash too :-)

BASTA… all done.

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007



On 1 May 2015, at 16:30, svsummerlove@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jean-Pierre,

Now that's an excellent idea.  It would have the added advantage of washing salt water off the chain too.  I'm presuming all that would be required is a check valve into the existing anchor wash system to prevent contamination of the drinking water supply.  Is there anything else you included in the conversion, or any potential problems you ran into?

Thanks,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

Leopold Hauer
 

Hi Steve,
I cannot find part 034015 on the website. Can you confirm that the part you are looking for is the program timer.
Since there is a holiday in Austria today i cannot contact them before Monday.
Regards
Leo

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 01.05.2015 um 15:43 schrieb svsummerlove@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Leo,

Thank you for your kind offer to contact them on my behalf.  Even if they no longer sell the part, but can provide another source that does sell that Eaton product would be very helpful.

This is what I've sent so far using Google Translate.  It could be that it doesn't make sense in German and they didn't know what I was asking.  The first email to them on Feb 11th had attached photos of the part and the dishwasher identification plate/ serial number:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ersatzteile <ersatzteile@...>           February 11, 2015 at 7:58 P.M.

Ich habe eine Teilenummer, die für den Teil Ich fragte nach auf den untenstehenden Einheit sein kann, gefunden. Ist Eudora Teilenummer 034.015 das richtige Teil? Wenn dem so ist, müssen Sie es zur Verfügung haben und wie viel wird es kosten?

Schönen Dank,

Steve Constantine



Begin forwarded message:

From: Steve Constantine
Subject: Preisanfrage für Programmt.
Date: February 11, 2015 at 7:58:52 PM EST
To: ersatzteile@...

Guten Tag,

Bitte geben Sie die Artikelnummer und Preis für die Programmt. in den beigefügten Fotos. Es ist aus einem Eumenia Mini 5500 Geschirrspüler Seriennummer 5.384.754.

Schönen Dank,

Steve Constantine


ersatzteile <ersatzteile@...>      April 6, 2015 at 9:30 A.M.

Ist dies der richtige Website, um Teile für eine Eumenia Mini 5500 Geschirrspüler bestellen?"

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Many thanks Leo,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Wash Pump Capacity

svsummerlove@...
 

Hi Jean-Pierre,

Now that's an excellent idea.  It would have the added advantage of washing salt water off the chain too.  I'm presuming all that would be required is a check valve into the existing anchor wash system to prevent contamination of the drinking water supply.  Is there anything else you included in the conversion, or any potential problems you ran into?

Thanks,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Wash Pump Capacity

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Steve,

I had the same problem and solved it by piping a fresh water line directly to the anchor wash nozzle.  Use the normal fresh water pump.

Also took the opportunity to add a “fresh water”deck wash outlet in the cockpit.

GL.

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 1 May 2015, at 16:12, svsummerlove@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

Yes, I agree, it's a great pump, although mine too has had a chronic leaking problem since new.  Unfortunately, due to not being used for several years, it has seized up from its own leaks.  Where we've been in the Caribbean with mostly sand and coral, it's rare to have enough mud on the chain to need it, and it didn't make much sense to wash salt water off the chain using salt water.

I can't tell yet if it's the pump or the motor that has seized. I removed it, but the stainless steel studs on the rubber mounting bobbins are so rusted from the pump leak, that I can't get them free from the pump base.  There's a recommended pump and motor rebuild place here in Ft Lauderdale, and I have a new "rebuild kit" which is essentially just seals and valves.  Before I go down the rat hole of spending a lot of money to find out it will cost more to rebuild than replace, I may be better off just buying a new one.  I just want to make sure that if I do, it has the capacity to do the job before I buy it.

I forgot to ask on my first post, if anyone knows what amperage the existing pump motor draws, so I can tell if I will need to increase the size of the wiring with a new pump.

Thanks,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Wash Pump Capacity

svsummerlove@...
 

Hi Bill,

Yes, I agree, it's a great pump, although mine too has had a chronic leaking problem since new.  Unfortunately, due to not being used for several years, it has seized up from its own leaks.  Where we've been in the Caribbean with mostly sand and coral, it's rare to have enough mud on the chain to need it, and it didn't make much sense to wash salt water off the chain using salt water.

I can't tell yet if it's the pump or the motor that has seized. I removed it, but the stainless steel studs on the rubber mounting bobbins are so rusted from the pump leak, that I can't get them free from the pump base.  There's a recommended pump and motor rebuild place here in Ft Lauderdale, and I have a new "rebuild kit" which is essentially just seals and valves.  Before I go down the rat hole of spending a lot of money to find out it will cost more to rebuild than replace, I may be better off just buying a new one.  I just want to make sure that if I do, it has the capacity to do the job before I buy it.

I forgot to ask on my first post, if anyone knows what amperage the existing pump motor draws, so I can tell if I will need to increase the size of the wiring with a new pump.

Thanks,

Steve Constantine
s/v Summer Love
SMM #340


Re: Original Rotary Drive with New Autopilot

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Andy,
I'm about to install the AC42N using a Raymarine Type II 12v drive - (same as the original). Your post suggests that won't work, although B&G's US system's engineer did the specs for my order.
I am quite sure the only difference between the AC12N and AC42N, other than the current limits, is the AC12N allows for switching a hydraulic solenoid and the AC42N does not - is that what you needed the extra relay for? Both units use pulse code modulation to vary the motor speed (turn rate) in accordance with their steering algorithms - that is, they are variable speed,  not two speed units.
What type of drive do you have? Is it 12v or 24v?  And what is that add-on relay doing? Guess I'm not really understanding what the problem was - don't want to get into same thing myself, so any help would be appreciated. (Btw, I couldn't find your picture - where is it?)
Cheers,
Craig - SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <allezaubon@...> wrote :

Hi Charles,
thanks for your feedback.
We installed a B&G system using Triton and Zeus range.
We choose the Triton Pilot controller computer with the High current add on pack ( AC42N computer) - we had difficulty marrying he systems.
We now know that the computer is for a two speed rotary drive , however the old unit we have is only one speed, hence calibration always failed. We solved this by adding an additional relay.
In retrospect, we should have chosen the LOW current pack computer pack - which only has a single speed - the same as the original rotary drive.
If you can, I have been advised to keep the original rotary drive, as they are bullet proof,  "they don't make em like that anymore." 
I have attached an image for your reference.
Trust the above is helpful

Fair winds
AndyMaramu 1980 #75


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