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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Hey Kent,
               Give yourself a break. Show me the Amel owner who's hasn't learn't how to pull those end caps the hard way.
Then, because you needed to close the sea chest again to stop the tray flooding, you start the generator AGAIN with the sea chest closed.
Sounds like it's beer thirty Kent.
Slainte.
Trevor
Seafever


Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block

seafeverofcuan@...
 


         Antal s.r.l.

 

 


Mizzen Boom Pully Block

kaimin2529@...
 

Can any one identify or suggest where to purchase replacement pulley blocks fitted each side of the mizzen boom towards the stern of the boat.


John


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

karkauai
 

My reward is being back on the water again.  No accolades to the guy who just checked the sea chest strainer and forgot to reopen the thruhull before starting the generator...then spent 45 min changing the impeller and fishing blade parts out of the heat exchanger.  I may be my own worst enemy.

Still reading -940mv on my hull potential, so happy that there doesn't seem to be any ongoing electrical leak.

Thanks to you, Bill, and so many others here, I didn't give up a year or two into owning my dream boat.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On May 20, 2015, at 2:21 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Trevor,

What do you estimate the chances of that sea chest valve failing when closed? I estimate almost no chance the way it is designed. OK, maybe a lightening strike. If the sea chest valve exploded due to a direct lightning strike, the pump will continue to pump until it runs out of battery and sea water will rise to the level of the waterline. If you have closed the aft valve to the aft watertight compartment, the sea water will be contained in the engine room to about the height of the top of the sea chest. I believe your insurance company would be very happy with the situation because your boat did not sink when the lightning exploded that valve.

AND, I never said disconnect to gray water sump pump from the batteries.

Duane, unlike Kent's SM Kristy, you have only one valve and it is at the sea chest, and it is probably quite different than the typical thru-hull valve that you have seen before. Take a look at it...you will see.

Kent, thanks for adding the information as to what is connected at the battery side of the switch. I think you may be our new electrical expert. ;) You deserve some sort of award for all that you have been through.

Bill
BeBe 

And



On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:33 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

     What do you tell your insurance company if the diesel tank fails, the sea chest valve fails, or the hull gets damaged ,when they ask you who disconnected the batteries?
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump cycle counter?

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 



Hello Gang,

As an interesting side bar, Florida has more lightning strikes than anywhere else in the world…  from Aviation statistics.  

Fair winds,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007



On 20 May 2015, at 10:44, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I accidentally omitted closing the forward valve to the gray water sump in my far fetched example. If that valve was left open and lightening exploded the valve on the sea chest, as water rose to the water line in the engine room, with either the forward valve or the aft valve open, serious things would happen. Closed, the water would be contained and rise only to the water line.

I know only one person who had a serious lightening strike on a SM, and he had two of them months apart at the same dock in Ft. Lauderdale. The first happened a few hours after he closed the sale to purchase, and the other happened months later after the repairs when he was getting ready to leave. He circumnavigated the world through the Panama Canal and Suez Canal without another hit.

I believe my example of lightening exploding the sea chest valve is very, very far fetched.

Duane, I know you have had some new-ownership hard luck...but all of that will soon be behind you...I promise.

Bill
BeBe 387 Malta



On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Trevor,

What do you estimate the chances of that sea chest valve failing when closed? I estimate almost no chance the way it is designed. OK, maybe a lightening strike. If the sea chest valve exploded due to a direct lightning strike, the pump will continue to pump until it runs out of battery and sea water will rise to the level of the waterline. If you have closed the aft valve to the aft watertight compartment, the sea water will be contained in the engine room to about the height of the top of the sea chest. I believe your insurance compa ny would be very happy with the situation because your boat did not sink when the lightning exploded that valve.

AND, I never said disconnect to gray water sump pump from the batteries.

Duane, unlike Kent's SM Kristy, you have only one valve and it is at the sea chest, and it is probably quite different than the typical thru-hull valve that you have seen before. Take a look at it...you will see.

Kent, thanks for adding the information as to what is connected at the battery side of the switch. I think you may be our new electrical expert. ;) You deserve some sort of award for all that you have been through.

Bill
BeBe 

And



On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:33 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

     What do you tell your insurance company if the diesel tank fails, the sea chest valve fails, or the hull gets damaged ,when they ask you who disconnected the batteries?
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I accidentally omitted closing the forward valve to the gray water sump in my far fetched example. If that valve was left open and lightening exploded the valve on the sea chest, as water rose to the water line in the engine room, with either the forward valve or the aft valve open, serious things would happen. Closed, the water would be contained and rise only to the water line.

I know only one person who had a serious lightening strike on a SM, and he had two of them months apart at the same dock in Ft. Lauderdale. The first happened a few hours after he closed the sale to purchase, and the other happened months later after the repairs when he was getting ready to leave. He circumnavigated the world through the Panama Canal and Suez Canal without another hit.

I believe my example of lightening exploding the sea chest valve is very, very far fetched.

Duane, I know you have had some new-ownership hard luck...but all of that will soon be behind you...I promise.

Bill
BeBe 387 Malta



On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Trevor,

What do you estimate the chances of that sea chest valve failing when closed? I estimate almost no chance the way it is designed. OK, maybe a lightening strike. If the sea chest valve exploded due to a direct lightning strike, the pump will continue to pump until it runs out of battery and sea water will rise to the level of the waterline. If you have closed the aft valve to the aft watertight compartment, the sea water will be contained in the engine room to about the height of the top of the sea chest. I believe your insurance company would be very happy with the situation because your boat did not sink when the lightning exploded that valve.

AND, I never said disconnect to gray water sump pump from the batteries.

Duane, unlike Kent's SM Kristy, you have only one valve and it is at the sea chest, and it is probably quite different than the typical thru-hull valve that you have seen before. Take a look at it...you will see.

Kent, thanks for adding the information as to what is connected at the battery side of the switch. I think you may be our new electrical expert. ;) You deserve some sort of award for all that you have been through.

Bill
BeBe 

And



On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:33 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

     What do you tell your insurance company if the diesel tank fails, the sea chest valve fails, or the hull gets damaged ,when they ask you who disconnected the batteries?
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever





Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Thanks Bill,
              We are in accord. The simple message being, if leaving your vessel afloat, it is better practice to have a power source to your bilge pump.
Kent, your have really got our ahead around the wiring, thank you for sharing the information.

Kind regards,

Trevor Lusty

Seafever of Cuan
SM 425
For Sale
Mexico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Trevor,

What do you estimate the chances of that sea chest valve failing when closed? I estimate almost no chance the way it is designed. OK, maybe a lightening strike. If the sea chest valve exploded due to a direct lightning strike, the pump will continue to pump until it runs out of battery and sea water will rise to the level of the waterline. If you have closed the aft valve to the aft watertight compartment, the sea water will be contained in the engine room to about the height of the top of the sea chest. I believe your insurance company would be very happy with the situation because your boat did not sink when the lightning exploded that valve.

AND, I never said disconnect to gray water sump pump from the batteries.

Duane, unlike Kent's SM Kristy, you have only one valve and it is at the sea chest, and it is probably quite different than the typical thru-hull valve that you have seen before. Take a look at it...you will see.

Kent, thanks for adding the information as to what is connected at the battery side of the switch. I think you may be our new electrical expert. ;) You deserve some sort of award for all that you have been through.

Bill
BeBe 

And



On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:33 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

     What do you tell your insurance company if the diesel tank fails, the sea chest valve fails, or the hull gets damaged ,when they ask you who disconnected the batteries?
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever




Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

karkauai
 

On Kristy, SM243, and on the drawings of the electrical system that were posted on this forum, all 24V equipment EXCEPT the bilge pump, the battery charger, and the 24-12v converter (marked Permanent) under the nav station, are connected to the battery bank on the boat side of the primary battery switch. The battery charger, "permanent" converter, and bilge pump are on the battery side of the switch. With this configuration you can leave your charger on to keep the batteries topped up (not recommended-see prior discussions about electrolytic damage and 220 VAC faults), keep the memory stations in your radio, and allow your bilge pump to run if there is a leak. All other 24V equipment can be isolated at the battery switch.
I have three through-hulls: the main sea chest that supplies raw water to the engines, the watermaker, and the AC cooling pump, and thru-hulls for each of the heads (under the cabin sole of the "hall" outside each of the heads). The forward head thru- hull also feeds the saltwater chain wash pump. Close all three thru-hulls and all water tight bulkheads when ever you leave the boat for a significant time.

Congratulations on your new boat and welcome to the Amel family!
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Currently Deltavilke VA and working North


Looking to buy an Amel Super Maramu!

jenyalwilson@...
 

Hello everyone!

My husband and I are looking to buy an Amel Super Maramu 2000-2005. Would also consider late 90's if in good condition. We've been having a real hard time locating one on the West coast of the United States. If anyone here is interested in selling, or knows anyone who might be, please message me. Email: JenyaLano "at" gmail. We can't wait to find our boat and begin our sailing adventures! Thanks so much for your time :)


Jenya


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Bill,
     What do you tell your insurance company if the diesel tank fails, the sea chest valve fails, or the hull gets damaged ,when they ask you who disconnected the batteries?
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

Close the only thru hull at the sea chest.

Think about it...where is the water going to come from that the gray water sump pump is going to pump out? 

You are beginning to understand some of Henri Amel's thinking.

Bill
BeBe

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:22 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Duane,

                  Please forgive me if I misunderstood your posting. Are you suggesting to leave your boat in the water and disconnect the batteries?
You have approximately 650 amps at 24volts, thats a lot of pumping.
As the master of the vessel, beware the pitfalls of mitigated negligence, knowingly disconnecting your bilge pump when afloat.
Best address that question to your insurer.
Best wishes with you new boat.
Kind regards,
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425
For sale 
Mexico



Re: Bilge Pump cycle counter?

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Dear Duane,
                  Please forgive me if I misunderstood your posting. Are you suggesting to leave your boat in the water and disconnect the batteries?
You have approximately 650 amps at 24volts, thats a lot of pumping.
As the master of the vessel, beware the pitfalls of mitigated negligence, knowingly disconnecting your bilge pump when afloat.
Best address that question to your insurer.
Best wishes with you new boat.
Kind regards,
Trevor Lusty
Seafever of Cuan
SM425
For sale 
Mexico


Bilge Pump cycle counter?

Duane Siegfri
 

Has anyone considered putting a cycle counter on the bilge pump?  I was thinking of doing that to increase my confidence in leaving the batteries disconnected while away from the boat.

Duane
SM Hull #477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Kubota generator circa 1999

karkauai
 

Hi Mike,
Kristy is SM243, "SM2000" built 1999.  Her ONAN is 
6.5 kVa MDKAL
S/N B980690104
50 Hz
Options B345, B380, E079, E086, L046, R046
Sorry, don't have the Kuvota numbers, but the Onan people can tell you with this info.
Let us know what you find.
Kent



On May 18, 2015, at 8:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Upon startup this spring after 6 months or so idle, generator started up fine but within seconds went to BLACK smoke. After shut-down and checking things, started again, BLACK smoke, and quit. Now cranks but doesn’t start.

 

Diesel mechanic after 3 hours is stumped. Replaced fuel filter and fuel seems to be getting to the injectors. Glow plugs seem to be working. Oil tested, comes up clean, thinking internal moving parts OK. He says its not getting to starting RPM. Ignoring the prior startup and black smoke, he says either starter bad or there is load resistance in the system somewhere preventing reaching starting RPM.

 

My current theory, which mechanic is not buying, is that over the winter some fuel (after the filter) went bad and fouled the injectors. Black smoke coming from lack of atomization of the fuel and no start due to blocked injector.

 

Anyway, being away from the boat, can anyone give me the Kubota engine model for the Onan generator circa 1999. We are hull #240. I am thinking the next step is to replace the injectors when I can ascertain the exact model number.

 

Thanks,

 

Mike Ondra,

Aletes

  

 


Re: Onan Kubota generator circa 1999

rossirossix4
 

Hi Mike,

Chances are it is a Kubota D1105.  The manuals below should be helpful to you and your technician.  They are good sized so give them time to download and save them.

Kubota D1105 Operators Manual
Kabota D1105 Operators manual.pdf 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How do you replace the prop shaft seals on a Amel 55

Chris Flack
 

Sounds like a perfect arrangement Bob.

Be good to catch up when rare back home in September.

Cheers
Chris
Hemera SM031


-----Original Message-----
From: "Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, 18 May 2015 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How do you replace the prop shaft seals on a Amel 55

 

Yes Renaissance will stay in Port Phillip Bay, I get the boat and 18 m dock in Martha's Cove, my darling wife gets to build a new home on the block.


At 16 May 2015 11:39:14, chris@... [amelyachtowners]amelyachtowners@...'> wrote:

Hi Bob,

Are you keeping her down there? If so fantastic news!!

Thanks for your best wishes. Things are off to a messy start but hope they pick up.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: "renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sat, 16 May 2015 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How do you replace the prop shaft seals on a Amel 55

Hi Chris, yes was in sandy for 6weeks waiting for a dock to be installed at Martha' Cove, good luck with your trip.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard Dinghy...

Nat Bossett
 

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 03:29:10PM -0400, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Anyone have one of these: http://www.porta-bote.com
I have one and like it for bay use: rowing only so far.

When rowing with only me (190 lbs) in the rower position, there isn't much
freeboard at the bow. However, I've rowed around with another guy about
my size in the rear seat and not had a problem.

They break down to a few relatively small pieces though not as small as a
collapsed inflatable. The hull stores along the lifelines as you would a
surfboard and the other pieces go in a bow locker.

Assembly is easy but needs a little more strength to fold/hold open while
you insert the benches than an inflatable would.

A non boat person or someone with
balance/frailty issues might be more challenged boarding/disembarking than
with a conventional inflatable or rigid dinghy.

-Nathan

Maramu #29


Re: Super Maramu for Sale

jenyalwilson@...
 

Hello,

My name is Jenya. My husband and I are currently searching for an Amel Super Maramu. Would love to see some photos of yours... do you have any handy? Please email me at JenyaLano "at" gmail.com

Thanks!

Jenya


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How do you replace the prop shaft seals on a Amel 55

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Bob

Congrats on being the first Australian to own a new Amel 55, and its really good to see yet another Amel owner in Australia. With the first ever Amel on display at this years Sydney boat show, we all do hope to see a few more Amel owners down under in time to come. Welcome and feel free to look us up if you are ever in Brisbane. We did the same thing here with the boat on a pontoon at home. Just wish we had more time to use it!  

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM#332
Newport, Brisbane. Australia

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes Renaissance will stay in Port Phillip Bay, I get the boat and 18 m dock in Martha's Cove, my darling wife gets to build a new home on the block.


At 16 May 2015 11:39:14, chris@... [amelyachtowners]amelyachtowners@...'> wrote:

Hi Bob,

Are you keeping her down there? If so fantastic news!!

Thanks for your best wishes. Things are off to a messy start but hope they pick up.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: "renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sat, 16 May 2015 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How do you replace the prop shaft seals on a Amel 55

Hi Chris, yes was in sandy for 6weeks waiting for a dock to be installed at Martha' Cove, good luck with your trip.




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445