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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Instructions/Parts Info Posted in Files Section

Andrew & Kate Lamb

#21380

Alexandre

Many thanks – that’s a great page with the overhaul guide and Gary’s documents, together with Eric’s comments, I now have a much clearer understanding – as I understand it the side blade grease point must enter behind the upper part of the thrust race and this just must be clogged with grease and debris – so once I have managed to remove this sand cleaned the blade it should be patent again.

Many thanks

Andrew

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:04 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Instructions/Parts Info Posted in Files Section

Good evening Andrew,

Looks like Eric answered your questions.

I just had my H6 Aito prop rebuild, there was 1 bearing a little stiff. I gain 200 rpm (full throttle).
The person that rebuild mine, said every 2000 engine hours, other say every 10 years…

I posted some files and pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/auto_prop_h6.html

The file will help you, the pictures will help for the removal, etc. but not the rebuild as I hired someone.
(My philosophy in not rebuilding myself was: it is done so rarely, I rather have someone familiar with it doing it - if it had been something done every other year, I would have learnt).

Hope that help a little.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Taino Beach, Port Lucaya, Grand Bahama, Bahamas.

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On Sat, 5/23/15, andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Instructions/Parts Info Posted in Files Section
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, May 23, 2015, 11:13 AM

Hi
Whilst our
boat was on the dry and after the normal greasing of the
auto-prop H6, I noticed that one of the blades doesn't
turn as easily as the other two also when I push the grease
through the central cap it doesn't come out the side
blade grease hole like the other two. I have stripped it
down and the ball races, seals and central removable
bearings all seem ok the only difference that I can find is
what seems to be another bearing I don't think one that
can be changed which seems more tightly fixed into the blade
in the "bad" blade than the other two. Also I am
able to turn by hand the inner side of the bearing on the
two "good" blades. It does not look like this
bearing can be removed easily in any of the blades but on
the "good" blades if I syringe white spirit
through the side blade grease hole it trickles through
behind this bearing where as I can't get any white
spirit through in the "bad" blade side grease
hole. When I put it all back together the "bad"
blade feels marginally stiffer than the other two. The lips
seals seems fine on all of the blades.
I wondered if anyone had knowledge
or experience enough to know whether I should be too
concerned about one of the blades being slightly stiffer
than the other two and thoughts / advice on what to do
next?
thanks
Andrew

Ronpische

SM2k
472

Canet en
Roussillion, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Autoprop

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>

#21379

Eric,

Yes. svbebe"at"gmail.com will work.

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On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:15 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Andrew,
Firstly the autoprop is greased by installing the grease gun on the side of the prop and the grease should come out the cap. You are greasing the prop backwards.
The prop has 2 sets of bearings on each blade. One roller bearing mounted in the blade and one in the hub.
When I dis-assembled my prop to rebuild it everything seemed great even though I could not get my yanmar past 2900 rpm. After the rebuild everything was fine.

To remove the 3 piece split bearing in the hub takes time as the tolerances are very close and the grease under the bearing holds the back half of the bearing in tightly. I soaked the hub in diesel for hours and it still was difficult to get out.
Some people have cut a notch in the back split bearing and use a screwdriver in the notch to rotate it and remove it. I did not.

The bearing in the blade should come out easily. If you are in the USA you can get the rebuild kit from AB marine and he will rent you the special tools to rebuild the prop.
If you wish send me your email and I will send you an exploded drawing of the prop and all the rebuil d instructions.
Bill if you would may I send you the info and you can post on the website under Kimberlite?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] battery drain output

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#21378

Good evening Bill M,

On NIKIMAT (SM2K #289) which only had 1 freezer, while I sailing/cruising (radio, AIS, Radar, etc.) the Link 10 shows 11 to 12 Amp/hour.
This does not account for the occasional use of the fresh water pump, bilge pump, water maker, etc. which really increase the amp/hour.
I also don’t use the SSB.  I only use the winches for unfurling and do the fine tuning by hand.
I start the generator every 8 hours and run it for 2 hours (just like the owner manual says).
Wish I could help more.

Sincerely, Alexandre


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On Fri, 5/22/15, william_maffei@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] battery drain output
 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 22, 2015, 9:31 PM


  









       Anybody know the average battery drain on a Super
 Maramu while running refrigeration, AIS, radar, electronics
 and all the other bells and whistles while cruising? How
 often is it expected one would have to run the genset to
 charge the batteries with solar panels?

 Bill M
 It's all Good
 SM# 195






 




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Instructions/Parts Info Posted in Files Section

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#21377

Good evening Andrew,

Looks like Eric answered your questions.

I just had my H6 Aito prop rebuild, there was 1 bearing a little stiff.   I gain 200 rpm (full throttle).
The person that rebuild mine, said every 2000 engine hours, other say every 10 years…

I posted some files and pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/auto_prop_h6.html

The file will help you, the pictures will help for the removal, etc. but not the rebuild as I hired someone.
(My philosophy in not rebuilding myself was: it is done so rarely, I rather have someone familiar with it doing it - if it had been something done every other year, I would have learnt).

Hope that help a little.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Taino Beach, Port Lucaya, Grand Bahama, Bahamas.


--------------------------------------------

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On Sat, 5/23/15, andrew.lamb@telemed.co.uk [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Instructions/Parts Info Posted in Files Section
 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, May 23, 2015, 11:13 AM


  







  

       Hi 
 Whilst our
 boat was on the dry and after the normal greasing of the
 auto-prop H6, I noticed that one of the blades doesn't
 turn as easily as the other two also when I push the grease
 through the central cap it doesn't come out the side
 blade grease hole like the other two. I have stripped it
 down and the ball races, seals and central removable
 bearings all seem ok the only difference that I can find is
 what seems to be another bearing I don't think one that
 can be changed which seems more tightly fixed into the blade
 in the "bad" blade than the other two. Also I am
 able to turn by hand the inner side of the bearing on the
 two "good" blades. It does not look like this
 bearing can be removed easily in any of the blades but on
 the "good" blades if I syringe white spirit
 through the side blade grease hole it trickles through
 behind this bearing where as I can't get any white
 spirit through in the "bad" blade side grease
 hole. When I put it all back together the "bad"
 blade feels marginally stiffer than the other two. The lips
 seals seems fine on all of the blades. 
 I wondered if anyone had knowledge
 or experience enough to know whether I should be too
 concerned about one of the blades being slightly stiffer
 than the other two and thoughts / advice on what to do
 next?
 thanks
 Andrew

  

 Ronpische

 SM2k
 472

 Canet en
 Roussillion, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Autoprop

Andrew & Kate Lamb

#21376

Eric

Thanks – an exploded diagram would be very helpful - what I don’t understand is that with one of the blades white spirit will simply not pass through the side grease opening (using a syringe) in the other two it trickles down the side of what appears like a brass bush where there is a clear gap between the bush and the main body of the blade but on the blocked one there is no gap – is this bush supposed to be removable also?

My email is Andrew “at” cerdagne “dot” org

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:16 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Autoprop

Andrew,

Firstly the autoprop is greased by installing the grease gun on the side of the prop and the grease should come out the cap. You are greasing the prop backwards.

The prop has 2 sets of bearings on each blade. One roller bearing mounted in the blade and one in the hub.

When I dis-assembled my prop to rebuild it everything seemed great even though I could not get my yanmar past 2900 rpm. After the rebuild everything was fine.

To remove the 3 piece split bearing in the hub takes time as the tolerances are very close and the grease under the bearing holds the back half of the bearing in tightly. I soaked the hub in diesel for hours and it still was difficult to get out.

Some people have cut a notch in the back split bearing and use a screwdriver in the notch to rotate it and remove it. I did not.

The bearing in the blade should come out easily. If you are in the USA you can get the rebuild kit from AB marine and he will rent you the special tools to rebuild the prop.

If you wish send me your email and I will send you an exploded drawing of the prop and all the rebuild instructions.

Bill if you would may I send you the info and you can post on the website under Kimberlite?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Autoprop

sailormon <kimberlite@...>

#21375