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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Bill,
      I first came across Corrosion X  in Trinidad and after years of thinking there was nothing better than WD40, I was really impressed. There were two grades as I remember.
Recently I discovered another product Boeshield -T9 which again has had good results, particuarily on plug in cables, chart plotter,radar,etc.
Unfortunately I have not been able to source either of these products in the UK when you do find them on line they can't be airfreighted to Ireland.
Best regards,
Trevor

Sea Fever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
For Sale
Mexico




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

Riza just told me he’s got lots…!

:-)


JPG



On 3 Jul 2015, at 07:08, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Here are the International distributors for CorrosionX: http://corrosionx.com/international-distributors.html

You will find them in New Zealand, Australia, Caribbean, Europe, and in many other places around the world. It looks like someone in Turkey needs to become a distributor. JP, maybe you can recruit someone on your next trip.

Bill
BeBe

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Chris Smither yachtakwaaba@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi
Had Akwaaba 's auto helm  checked and  instruments reinstalled recently. I had taken the computer to Tinley Electronics UK for service.
The local Thai engineer found the rudder angle sensor was faulty and another  sensor was easy to find.
Hope this helps
Chris Smither Santorin Sloop 027 (1990)


On 3 Jul 2015, at 08:07, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good point for both of you.  I tried to source Corrosion X in EU... No luck.  However an aeronautical engineer friend recommended a good product.  ....


Jean-Pierre Germain 
SY ELEUTHERA, SM007


On 3 Jul 2015, at 02:04, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

AND the other issue with WD40 is that it is hydrophilic...i.e.it attracts water...so as Bill says, everything may seem OK in the short term, but in the longer term the residual will attract water and cause corrosion and short circuits, the very thing you are trying to guard against.

Products like Corrosion X and Inox are hydrophibic...i.e. they repel water
WD40 has no place on my boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Here are the International distributors for CorrosionX: http://corrosionx.com/international-distributors.html

You will find them in New Zealand, Australia, Caribbean, Europe, and in many other places around the world. It looks like someone in Turkey needs to become a distributor. JP, maybe you can recruit someone on your next trip.

Bill
BeBe

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Chris Smither yachtakwaaba@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi
Had Akwaaba 's auto helm  checked and  instruments reinstalled recently. I had taken the computer to Tinley Electronics UK for service.
The local Thai engineer found the rudder angle sensor was faulty and another  sensor was easy to find.
Hope this helps
Chris Smither Santorin Sloop 027 (1990)


On 3 Jul 2015, at 08:07, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good point for both of you.  I tried to source Corrosion X in EU... No luck.  However an aeronautical engineer friend recommended a good product.  ....


Jean-Pierre Germain 
SY ELEUTHERA, SM007


On 3 Jul 2015, at 02:04, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

AND the other issue with WD40 is that it is hydrophilic...i.e.it attracts water...so as Bill says, everything may seem OK in the short term, but in the longer term the residual will attract water and cause corrosion and short circuits, the very thing you are trying to guard against.

Products like Corrosion X and Inox are hydrophibic...i.e. they repel water
WD40 has no place on my boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Hi
Had Akwaaba 's auto helm  checked and  instruments reinstalled recently. I had taken the computer to Tinley Electronics UK for service.
The local Thai engineer found the rudder angle sensor was faulty and another  sensor was easy to find.
Hope this helps
Chris Smither Santorin Sloop 027 (1990)


On 3 Jul 2015, at 08:07, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good point for both of you.  I tried to source Corrosion X in EU... No luck.  However an aeronautical engineer friend recommended a good product.  ....


Jean-Pierre Germain 
SY ELEUTHERA, SM007


On 3 Jul 2015, at 02:04, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

AND the other issue with WD40 is that it is hydrophilic...i.e.it attracts water...so as Bill says, everything may seem OK in the short term, but in the longer term the residual will attract water and cause corrosion and short circuits, the very thing you are trying to guard against.

Products like Corrosion X and Inox are hydrophibic...i.e. they repel water
WD40 has no place on my boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Good point for both of you.  I tried to source Corrosion X in EU... No luck.  However an aeronautical engineer friend recommended a good product.  ....


Jean-Pierre Germain 
SY ELEUTHERA, SM007


On 3 Jul 2015, at 02:04, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

AND the other issue with WD40 is that it is hydrophilic...i.e.it attracts water...so as Bill says, everything may seem OK in the short term, but in the longer term the residual will attract water and cause corrosion and short circuits, the very thing you are trying to guard against.

Products like Corrosion X and Inox are hydrophibic...i.e. they repel water
WD40 has no place on my boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Alan Leslie
 

AND the other issue with WD40 is that it is hydrophilic...i.e.it attracts water...so as Bill says, everything may seem OK in the short term, but in the longer term the residual will attract water and cause corrosion and short circuits, the very thing you are trying to guard against.
Products like Corrosion X and Inox are hydrophibic...i.e. they repel water
WD40 has no place on my boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Craig Briggs
 

HI Eamonn,

I have just replaced mine and have the old equipment available - please see private email I sent you.

Cheers,
Craig Briggs
SN#68 Sangaris, Ft Lauderdale


---In amelyachtowners@..., <eamonn.washington@...> wrote :

Hi

I have been following the forum for 6 months in preparation for buying our Super Maramu, #151.  Here is my first post, after our 2 week shakedown cruise!

The Autohelm ST7000 worked for an hour but since then failed to leave "Standby".  The rudder angle appears correctly.  Wires seem OK.  Also noteworthy to mention is that the original GPS display also fails to switch on, and it is connected to the SeaTalk bus.

I guess I should replace the GPS anyway.  I guess the ST7000 should be able to work without it (I can't figure out why it would need the GPS in the first place, Fluxgate and Rudder should be enough?).

I read all references in this forum to ST7000 but not being able to leave standby was never mentioned.  Any suggestions?

Eamonn
SM #151



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

JP,

Not to be a smartass, but WD40 is conductive and while it may work temporarily as you used it, you stand a very good chance of causing a short especially between two rows of  circuitboard flux.

On the other hand, there is a great product manufactured in Texas that works perfectly. Originally created to fight airline metallurgical corrosion, CorrosionX is non-conductive, but substantially increases conductivity between metals at a molecular level. Since it is non-conductive, it is safe to transport by air in the non-aresol pump bottle. Don't confuse this with CorrosionBlock...different company and different product.

And lastly, the guy I mentioned earlier, Dan Gerhardt rebuilds these Raymarine control heads with new parts for a fraction of the original cost. He also sells rebuilt older Raymarine parts.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 2, 2015 9:55 AM, "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I've had a 7000 stick on my previous boat.  I traced the problem down to the controls on the facia.  This is the result of sun exposure causing the rubber membranes to crack and leak salt h2o onto the underlying board.

I found that WD40 sprayed on the crevices could re establish he contacts... For a while!

The solution is replacing the 7000... At considerable cost.

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM007


On 2 Jul 2015, at 00:16, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have had similar problems with our 7000; the problem is intermittent; I sometimes can solve it by rapid (or rabid) pressing of various orange buttons on the control, which usually will get it working. We have also had it stick in the active mode, and can only break out by throwing the breaker.


My sense was that the contacts under the orange keys may be corroded; the SeaTalk bus could also be at fault.

Considering the age of the unit (16 years), and it's worthiness on a long voyage, we are replacing with Raymarine EV-400 and multifunction display (which can communicate your desired course with the auto helm). Total purchase price $3,550 US. Peace of mind, priceless.

Tom Peacock
SM2K #240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

I chose the EV400... To augment my 7000.  It still works well..

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM 007


On 2 Jul 2015, at 08:49, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Tom

my next question was going to be what is the most suitable kit to replace it with.  I am still hoping that the original (20 year old) st7000 could be made to work, then keep it as a backup and install a second independent one.

Eamonn
SM #151


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

I've had a 7000 stick on my previous boat.  I traced the problem down to the controls on the facia.  This is the result of sun exposure causing the rubber membranes to crack and leak salt h2o onto the underlying board.

I found that WD40 sprayed on the crevices could re establish he contacts... For a while!

The solution is replacing the 7000... At considerable cost.

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM007


On 2 Jul 2015, at 00:16, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have had similar problems with our 7000; the problem is intermittent; I sometimes can solve it by rapid (or rabid) pressing of various orange buttons on the control, which usually will get it working. We have also had it stick in the active mode, and can only break out by throwing the breaker.


My sense was that the contacts under the orange keys may be corroded; the SeaTalk bus could also be at fault.

Considering the age of the unit (16 years), and it's worthiness on a long voyage, we are replacing with Raymarine EV-400 and multifunction display (which can communicate your desired course with the auto helm). Total purchase price $3,550 US. Peace of mind, priceless.

Tom Peacock
SM2K #240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The Raymarine control heads (st7000 AND 7001+) and the course computer as well as the fluxgate compass and the rudder reference can be successfully refurbished.

Several of us have recently had good experience with Dan Gerhardt. His prices are great and his service superb. I have used him internationally.

dan"at"mydurango.net repairing Raymarine products and/or buying refurbished Raymarine instruments.

Bill
BeBe #387

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:49 AM, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Tom

my next question was going to be what is the most suitable kit to replace it with.  I am still hoping that the original (20 year old) st7000 could be made to work, then keep it as a backup and install a second independent one.

Eamonn
SM #151



Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

eamonn.washington@...
 

Thanks Tom

my next question was going to be what is the most suitable kit to replace it with.  I am still hoping that the original (20 year old) st7000 could be made to work, then keep it as a backup and install a second independent one.

Eamonn
SM #151


Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

peacock@...
 

We have had similar problems with our 7000; the problem is intermittent; I sometimes can solve it by rapid (or rabid) pressing of various orange buttons on the control, which usually will get it working. We have also had it stick in the active mode, and can only break out by throwing the breaker.

My sense was that the contacts under the orange keys may be corroded; the SeaTalk bus could also be at fault.

Considering the age of the unit (16 years), and it's worthiness on a long voyage, we are replacing with Raymarine EV-400 and multifunction display (which can communicate your desired course with the auto helm). Total purchase price $3,550 US. Peace of mind, priceless.

Tom Peacock
SM2K #240
Rock Hall, MD


Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

eamonn.washington@...
 

Hi

I have been following the forum for 6 months in preparation for buying our Super Maramu, #151.  Here is my first post, after our 2 week shakedown cruise!

The Autohelm ST7000 worked for an hour but since then failed to leave "Standby".  The rudder angle appears correctly.  Wires seem OK.  Also noteworthy to mention is that the original GPS display also fails to switch on, and it is connected to the SeaTalk bus.

I guess I should replace the GPS anyway.  I guess the ST7000 should be able to work without it (I can't figure out why it would need the GPS in the first place, Fluxgate and Rudder should be enough?).

I read all references in this forum to ST7000 but not being able to leave standby was never mentioned.  Any suggestions?

Eamonn
SM #151



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Alexandre,

Thank you for the reference.  I will look into it…

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007



On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:18, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Jean Pierre,

Here is what I purchased:
http://nikimat.com/hatches_safety_bars.html
I like them because they are removable and heavy duty, they will discourage the random thief.
But they are very heavy.
Back in May 2013 they cost $405 from www.swi-tec.us

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

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On Wed, 7/1/15, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 7:33 AM


 









Hi Gang,



We are in the process of installing safety bars on the
hatches; the Admiral insists.



I recall seeing a removable design which made a lot of
sense. However, after searching, I found nothing.



Can someone help?



Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007













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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Jean Pierre,

Here is what I purchased:
http://nikimat.com/hatches_safety_bars.html
I like them because they are removable and heavy duty, they will discourage the random thief.
But they are very heavy.
Back in May 2013 they cost $405 from www.swi-tec.us

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT


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On Wed, 7/1/15, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@xs4all.nl [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 7:33 AM


 









Hi Gang,



We are in the process of installing safety bars on the
hatches; the Admiral insists.



I recall seeing a removable design which made a lot of
sense. However, after searching, I found nothing.



Can someone help?



Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007
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Safety bars on hatches.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

We are in the process of installing safety bars on the hatches; the Admiral insists.

I recall seeing a removable design which made a lot of sense. However, after searching, I found nothing.

Can someone help?

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007


Re: SSB HF Antenna

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Derick:

Last year I replaced my original Amel supplied SSB antenna because the lower section had a crack along it's entire length and the plastic ball mount had broken and been repaired with structural adhesive twice (aging plastic).  My replacement was a Shakespeare SSB antenna with a 1 inch 14-thread per inch female mount on the bottom.  I purchased one of these:    http://shakespeare-ce.com/marine/product/410-r-swivel-mount-mounting-kit/   to mount it but I didn't want to drill holes in the deck to match the mounting plate.  I disassembled the above kit, drilled a slightly larger hole in the existing Amel rectangular aluminum base mount and assembled the SS 1 inch 14-thread per inch swivel onto the aluminum base using nylon isolation washers to prevent dissimilar metal corrosion.  It is way stronger than the original, isn't plastic so it won't age in that way, and I didn't have to drill new holes in the deck.  The antenna also mounts and dismounts (just unscrews) much more easily as I take the antenna down to stow below decks while on the hard for hurricane season. 

All the best, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona   on the Hard in Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico 
Amel SM #335
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SSB HF Antenna

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Derick & Bill,

Not sure I am talking about the same thing, but I thought the Antenna mount were from Marcucci: parts 5795426 and 5795425
Haven’t find a place to source them either.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 6/27/15, derickgates@comcast.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SSB HF Antenna
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2015, 11:39 AM


 









Bill,
It
appears that Banten, the manufacturing source for these
mounts, is in Italy.  However their website indicates that
they only sell through retailers.  They then fail to
indicate who their distributors are!  I am tempted to sign
up as a retailer. Perhaps you can find a local distributor
while you are still in Italy?  I am looking for sources of
both the ball mount and the mid-antenna rail clip (parts
00015 and 00020) online without success.  I don't need
them until November when I splash Brava again in Antigua.
 If you find a distributor I will gladly buy them off you
when you reach the Caribbean again.   Otherwise I need to
investigate alternatives.  
The Shakespeare mount and (rail
clip) that Gary Silver found may have the same size screw
threads (1 inch - 14 standard) to fit the base of the Banten
7 meter whip antenna but I will seek confirmation of that.
 I have brought the broken ball fitting back with me to
Massachusetts to attempt to find a match.  I'll let you
know if I am successful.
I would love to finally meet you and
Judy when you get to the Caribbean.  Between BeBe's
blog and your generous Amel group postings you have both
been very inspirational and a major factor in bringing me up
to speed. 
Derick
SM2K #400 BravaCurrently
on the hard in Antigua









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Re: Generator/Shorepower Transfer Switch

luvkante
 

Thank you Kent!