Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: BOWTHRUSTER SEAL PROBLEMS
eric freedman
Vito,
The lip seal on the bow thruster’s propeller shaft has 2 sides one flat side and one concave side with a spring showing. Which side faces the sea water and propeller? Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:42 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: BOWTHRUSTER SEAL PROBLEMS Hello Seals leaking is a common problem. Changing the seals regularly helps. I change them every time the boat is out of the water. It is a very simple procedure. There are 3 seals 1 inside the boat and two between the shaft and the unit. The Bow Thruster can be removed and serviced while the boat is in the water. You need a special tool from Amel or a diver. I have never done this but I believe if you search this site you can find the best procedure. There is a way to adjust the pressure that is put on the seals by adjusting the motor travel. I have described how to do this in the previous post about bow thruster not going up all the way. Also if you put the safety pin in this may help. When you remove the unit dont forget to change the oil. If there is water in the oil you will also need to change the seal on the prop. Again very simple procedure. Good luck Vito Wanderer asm 283 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "L. CAMERON" <solarconstruction@...> wrote: THRU SOME SWELL, BUT NOT AT ANCHOR. A 4-5 HOUR SAIL WILL LEAK 2-3 GALLONS INTO THE BILGE BY THE FORE HEAD PASSAGEWAY. MY QUESTIONS ARE:ON A YEAR 2001 BOAT?? DOES AMEL WARANTY THIS IF IT IS SO COMMON?? 2) HAS ANYONE CHANGED THE SEALS WHILE AT ANCHOR?? IS THEIR SEAWATER INTRUSION WHEN THE UNIT IS DROPPED OUT IN CALM WATERS? 3) WILL GREASING THE SHAFT AND MOVING THE UNIT UP & DOWN TOLUBRICATE THE SEALS, MINIMIZE THE PROBLEM UNTIL I CAN HAULOUT MORE CONVENIENTLY?? 4) DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLEAR SCHEMATIC SHOWING THE SEALS?? HOWMANY SEALS ARE THERE TO CHANGE?? THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!! LADY DIVINA SM#317just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bowthruster does not rise far enough on Super Maramu
eric freedman
Hi,
My Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite has electronic sensors on the bow thrusters lift assembly . They are attached with clamps around the assembly. What do theses sensors do and how are they adjusted? Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 1:39 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bowthruster does not rise far enough on Super Maramu Hi Mark I am not sure that your setup is the same as the one on Wanderer hull # 283. So this is how I adjust my Bow thruster. If you observe the assembly as it rises and falls you will see that there is a rod with two metal arrows on it.One at the top and the other on the bootom. These arrows press on a button and this tells the motor when to stop running. These arrows can be adjusted quite easily using and allen wrench. Its quite simple once you do it. Good luck. Vito Ciaravino ASM 283 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...> wrote: involved partly removing the motor as well as changing the seals and theoil in the bow thruster prop assembly. I have it all back together nowbut I cannot get the whole thing to ascend far enough to put the safetypin in place unless someone stands under the boat (it is on the hard)and pushes up with some force. Before this maintenance, I could insertadjust things so that I can get the motor to rise a small amount more sothat I can insert the safety pin? There were two spongy seals onbetween the prop assembly and the hull, so I replaced them with two newseals. Could two seals be the source of the problem? SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailing _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diving compressors, tenders and davits
G D <maramu@...>
Bonjour Roger
Le contact que j'avais chez Bauer est Nathalie Pechoux Tel. +33 479 88 71 69 npechoux@bauer-compresseurs.com Pour information le tuyau haute pression de remplissage doit mesurer environ 1m. Je cale les bouteilles contre le siege du barreur quand je fais un remplissage. Attention de bien preciser la commande le type de robineterie des bouteilles DIN ou autre. Cordialement Erick MEJEAN ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Roger Frederiks" <rofred@dsl.pipex.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diving compressors, tenders and davits Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 06:56:38 -0000 Dear Ian and Erick Thanks for the feedback on the Bauer compressor. I'm definitely going to ask Amel to install it then! Yes, they are noisy things so we may not be terribly popular at some anchorages, but at least we'll be totally independent from any shore based filling stations. Erick, thanks for reminding me about Charles' Law. I'd nearly forgotten about that... ;) However, when on expedition in remote tropical locations we used to have our tanks submerged in an open barrel with water in order to keep them cool when being filled. Not sure if this is possible on an Amel, as the tanks may well have to sit next to the compressor in the port cockpit locker. Amel have said they can make a custom tank holder frame once they've been given the tank dimensions. So, right now, not yet sure if to go for the Junior II or the Oceanus. Also thanks for the info on contacting Bauer France. Je suis francophone, donc je me debrouille en franais. :) As an aside, Ian, I read your comment about RIB's. So far, I've looked at both AB and Caribe and possibly Avon, but it sure seems as if the Southern Pacific Sheerwater may well be worth investigating in view of its much lighter weight. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to go for the Amel davits. They certainly look very solid but in my view they also spoil the attractive lines of the 54. So perhaps I shall stay with the tried and tested method of using a halyard and winch for lifting and lowering the tender and outboard. Incidentally, for the Amel 54 they are the Series 7 Simpson Davits and can be seen on http://www.simpson-davits.co.uk/traditional-davits.php I have lots more questions but plenty of time for that later. Cheers, Roger
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Diving compressors, tenders and davits
Roger Frederiks <rofred@...>
Dear Ian and Erick
Thanks for the feedback on the Bauer compressor. I'm definitely going to ask Amel to install it then! Yes, they are noisy things so we may not be terribly popular at some anchorages, but at least we'll be totally independent from any shore based filling stations. Erick, thanks for reminding me about Charles' Law. I'd nearly forgotten about that... ;) However, when on expedition in remote tropical locations we used to have our tanks submerged in an open barrel with water in order to keep them cool when being filled. Not sure if this is possible on an Amel, as the tanks may well have to sit next to the compressor in the port cockpit locker. Amel have said they can make a custom tank holder frame once they've been given the tank dimensions. So, right now, not yet sure if to go for the Junior II or the Oceanus. Also thanks for the info on contacting Bauer France. Je suis francophone, donc je me debrouille en fran�ais. :) As an aside, Ian, I read your comment about RIB's. So far, I've looked at both AB and Caribe and possibly Avon, but it sure seems as if the Southern Pacific Sheerwater may well be worth investigating in view of its much lighter weight. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to go for the Amel davits. They certainly look very solid but in my view they also spoil the attractive lines of the 54. So perhaps I shall stay with the tried and tested method of using a halyard and winch for lifting and lowering the tender and outboard. Incidentally, for the Amel 54 they are the Series 7 Simpson Davits and can be seen on http://www.simpson-davits.co.uk/traditional-davits.php I have lots more questions but plenty of time for that later. Cheers, Roger
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] U-drive oil
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Judy, When we bought Pen Azen new we were told 15W40 and it seems to have worked happily ever since. Incidentally, as well as the two external and one internal soft foam rings to be replaced on the bowthruster you can also replace the hard seal which sits inside the boat . Once the shaft is out of the boat you have to work at it with your fingers till it allows itself to be prized loose but a good hard push down will relocate the new one.
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Motor on fuler for the Main Sail
Linda DeSalvo <liebling207@...>
The motor on furler on the main sail is making a lot of noise. Is there anyone out there that has had this problem and what did you do about it.
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SM stability curve
Jens Henriksen <jens_henriksen@...>
We are looking into buying a Super Maramu, and I would like to see
the stability curve, or GZ curve, or at least know the angle of vanishing stability. The GZ curve describes the resistance to capsize and heel, and from that curve you can read the ultimate stability, the "angle of vanishing stability" or the angle to which the boat can heel and still right itself. I believe the GZ curve should be part of the CE approval procees, so it should be publicly available somewhere, but I have not been able to find it. So, if anyone has this curve, or the angle, pls let me know. regards Jens -- *************** Jens Henriksen
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Pressure Problem
afpellegrini@...
I disconnected the cold water at each faucet and turned the pump on and this
cleared the problem although I did not see anything apparent released. At any rate, the pressure is back to normal. Thanks for the support and ideas. Regards, Tony Pellegrini Voyageur #373
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Re: Water Maker question
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Thank You gary
This is very helpfull. Vito --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote: (Reverse Osmosis) membranes in the world. That manufacturer is FilmTec. FilmTec wasa rather small company that manufactured membranes by hand until Dow Corningbought them a few years ago and developed robotic manufacturingprocesses. This development resulted in improved membranes that give higherproduction than the original hand laid up membranes. The other great benefitwas a drop in price. The membranes are less than 50 percent of their originalcost. Dessalator, 150 l/hr water maker) are FilmTec SW30-2540 (that is SW = SeaWater, and the 2540 = 2.5 inch by 40 inch membranes. I suspect that yours are thesame. I purchased mine from a company Air, Water, Ice. Inc., Phone in USAis 776-461-0256. Walter is the owner and is very knowledgeable. The Film Tec website shows that the SW30-2540 will produce 166 liters/hr for two membranes atoptimal temp. The rate is higher than the original design for the Dessalatorsystem because of the higher quality membranes (29 square feet surface area) that is dueto robotic glue lines on the membranes.wasn't able to find any evidence that the salt rejection rate of the membrane isaffected by temperature. The reading from the TDS meter may change due to temperature thoughas you are literally measuring electrical conductivity of the water and thisis affected by temp. The salt rejection rate is dependent on pressure and if themembrane isn't operated at optimal pressure the TDS (total dissolved solids) will behigher. system after start up or if you waited at least 5 minutes before testing. See myprevious post related to TDS Creep that occurs upon system shut down. It takes a fewminutes for the TDS Creep to go away after system start up.caps and membrane nipples (see photo section under watermaker). Product rate mayactually increase as the membranes fail (that was the case with mine).Dow Corning Filmtec web site under literature. This is more likely to cure afalling production rate than to cure a high TDS. (1000 TDS isn't really that bad.City water is commonly 800 - 900 ppm. My system with brand new membranes producesthey are shipping over seas request them to double package them. The shippingcontainer they sent mine in was somewhat damaged just shipping across theUSA. No damage to the membranes but it would have been damaged if they hadthe process of replacing the membranes. About a 4 hour job but requiressection). questions. that have no electrical traces to any control circuity. It is my opinionthe testingwatermaker is testing at 1200 PPM. The water from the tap is refrigeratedat 1000 or under ppm and when I test the water from a producingbottle it tests at around 600 to 700 ppm. My conclusion is that bad.this quality of water all along I just had no way of testing. theProduct amount is normal. am150 LPH 220 model. making too much out of this.
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Re: Water Maker question
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@...> wrote:
Hi Vito:As far as I can determine there is only one manufacturer of RO (Reverse Osmosis) membranes in the world. That manufacturer is FilmTec. FilmTec was a rather small company that manufactured membranes by hand until Dow Corning bought them a few years ago and developed robotic manufacturing processes. This development resulted in improved membranes that give higher production than the original hand laid up membranes. The other great benefit was a drop in price. The membranes are less than 50 percent of their original cost. The membranes on my Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335 (220 VAC 50 Hertz Dessalator, 150 l/hr water maker) are FilmTec SW30-2540 (that is SW = Sea Water, and the 2540 = 2.5 inch by 40 inch membranes. I suspect that yours are the same. I purchased mine from a company Air, Water, Ice. Inc., Phone in USA is 776-461-0256. Walter is the owner and is very knowledgeable. The Film Tec web site shows that the SW30-2540 will produce 166 liters/hr for two membranes at optimal temp. The rate is higher than the original design for the Dessalator system because of the higher quality membranes (29 square feet surface area) that is due to robotic glue lines on the membranes. As I searched the Dow Corning Film Tech technical literature I wasn't able to find any evidence that the salt rejection rate of the membrane is affected by temperature. The reading from the TDS meter may change due to temperature though as you are literally measuring electrical conductivity of the water and this is affected by temp. The salt rejection rate is dependent on pressure and if the membrane isn't operated at optimal pressure the TDS (total dissolved solids) will be higher. You didn't mention if the water you tested was the first out of the system after start up or if you waited at least 5 minutes before testing. See my previous post related to TDS Creep that occurs upon system shut down. It takes a few minutes for the TDS Creep to go away after system start up. In answer to your questions: 1. Possibly. This could also be due to worn 0-rings on the end caps and membrane nipples (see photo section under watermaker). Product rate may actually increase as the membranes fail (that was the case with mine). 2. Cleaning is recommended and the procedure is described on the Dow Corning Filmtec web site under literature. This is more likely to cure a falling production rate than to cure a high TDS. (1000 TDS isn't really that bad. City water is commonly 800 - 900 ppm. My system with brand new membranes produces water at 485 microSiemens/cm = 500 ppm TDS at 160 l/hr). 3. I had great service from the supplier I mentioned above. If they are shipping over seas request them to double package them. The shipping container they sent mine in was somewhat damaged just shipping across the USA. No damage to the membranes but it would have been damaged if they had much more handling. 4. See my response above. I also have a post on this site about the process of replacing the membranes. About a 4 hour job but requires some means of grasping the tubes and end caps, (see the photo section). Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions. Finally, install a independent continuous EC or TDS monitor as the Dessalitor Salinity Sensor connects to pins on the control board that have no electrical traces to any control circuity. It is my opinion that the sensor is a sham installation that was never functional. Either that or there was gross manufacturing defects in the system. Don't depend on the Dessalator system to alert you to unsafe water. Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Hello from Fiji
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Water Maker question
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Vito,
How many hours have you done on your watermaker and is it the 60 or 150l p h version? We test ours just by drinking it and after 1300 hours its fine. We lay up now for about 6 months of the year. We have pickled twice, without any problems. Last week approaching Uruguay from Brazil we were getting the full 60 litre per hour output in 16C water temp, though this performace may have something to do with reduced salinity of the sea as we were about 300kms from the mouth of the Rio Plata and already you could see sediment in the water. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay
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BOWTHRUSTER ADJUSTMENT
L. CAMERON <solarconstruction@...>
FROM: "LADY DIVINA" SM317
I FOUND THAT AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE BOWTHRUSTER ON SM317 SOLVED THE SEAWATER INTRUSION PROBLEM WHILE AT SEA. I LOWERED THE BOLT(w/PIN HOLE) ON TOP OF THE MOTOR UNIT BY LOOSENING THE NUT AND SCREWING THE BOLT ASSMB. DOWN INTO THE MOTOR APPROX 1/4". THIS EFFECTIVELY RAISED THE UNIT AND COMPRESSED THE DOUGHNUT WASHERS, STOPPING THE LEAK FROM SEA SWELLS. IT IS ALITTLE MORE WORK TO INSERT THE PIN. I WILL DO A COMPLETE INSPECTION WHEN I HAULOUT NEXT, BUT THIS KEEPS ME GOING. THANKS FOR EVERYONES' ADVICE ON THIS COMMON PROBLEM. LADY DIVINA SM317 >> ST. MARTIN amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com wrote: There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. U-drive oil From: "jrjrjrouse2000" sailingjudy@gmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message 1 From: "jrjrjrouse2000" sailingjudy@gmail.com Date: Tue May 9, 2006 3:33pm(PDT) Subject: U-drive oil We pulled our Autoprop for service, thus draining the oil for the U- drive. Looking for verification of weight of oil for replacement. Notes we have from previous postings on this website state 15W40, but the sticker in the engine room on the place where the oil should be added states 20W40. Can anyone confirm which is correct? Judy Rouse S/V Security SM2 #387 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Water Maker question
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hello from Fiji
Well of course problems will crop up in the most remote places. I recently bought a water saltinity tester. The water coming from the watermaker is testing at 1200 PPM. The water from the tap is testing at 1000 or under ppm and when I test the water from a refrigerated bottle it tests at around 600 to 700 ppm. My conclusion is that temperature has a lot to do with test results. Anyway all these results are above normal. Now my watermaker could have been producing this quality of water all along I just had no way of testing. My questions are. 1- Does the higher readings mean that the membranes are going bad. Product amount is normal. 2- Does cleaning the membranes with a solution help. 3- Can someone recomend a supplier for the membraned in the US or south pacific. 4- Does anyone know what the model # of the membrane is. I have the 150 LPH 220 model. PS I tested the saltinity of red wine and it 1050 PPM. So maybe I am making too much out of this. Any help or advise would be gladly appreciated. Thank you Vito Ciaravino Wanderer asm 283
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Re: Water Pressure Problem
minaxi53 <no_reply@...>
I had a similar baffling experience last year with the same faucet.
After doing all the usual stuff I found it was actually a leak from the supply pipe. Behind the head under the shelf access panel you will with much twisting of arms get to a copper supply pipe that is connected to a rubber hose. This was the culprit for me, it had worked loose with vibration and half the water was spurting into the space below the head and into the bilge under the floor opposite closet. I wondered for weeks where that water was coming from!!! Good luck Bob Minaxi SM6 - -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "pellegrini1942" <afpellegrini@...> wrote: pressure. The cockpit shower is fine, but the forward head faucet has almostno pressure. The mix of hot and cold is OK, but not as strong asusual. The water pump is working and is at 20 psi when off and goes to 26psi when it turns on.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Pressure Problem
peter pappas <pjppappas@...>
try removing the nozzel head and cleaning the screen. "callisto" 369
pellegrini1942 <afpellegrini@aol.com> wrote: I have an SM 2000 and am experiencing problems with cold water pressure. The cockpit shower is fine, but the forward head faucet has almost no pressure. The mix of hot and cold is OK, but not as strong as usual. The water pump is working and is at 20 psi when off and goes to 26 psi when it turns on. Any ideas on the problem will be appreciated. Regards, Tony Pellegrini SM2000 #373 Port Yalikavak, Bodrum, Turkey SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Future Amel 54 owner
G D <maramu@...>
Hi ROger
I'm using on my SM the Bauer Junior II to my entire satisfaction. My advice is dont get away from serious brand such as this one. It is may be more expensive than the rest but it is worth it. Dont forget that getting spare parts if a breakdown occures when u are lost in the middle of nowhere may become a serious issue. To make it short, no compromise for this kind of equipement. I'm using the monophase type one. The oceanus looks very good as well. My only coment is that the faster you fill up the tank the more heat u generate and once it has cooled down you will realize that your initial 220 Bars may become much less than that. So it may not give in real as many advantage than on the paper. I bought mine direct from Bauer France. http://www.bauer-compresseurs.com/ They are very helpfull reliable and speak english. If I'm not mistaken they gave me a discount in the range of 15% based on the tarif price. Anyway it is worth trying. Wishing you all the best with your new boat but be patient.......... Erick MEJEAN ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Roger Frederiks" <rofred@dsl.pipex.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Future Amel 54 owner Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:51:35 -0000 Hello, Amel owners/adventurers, Just to introduce myself to the group, having ordered a new 54 some 10 days ago. She won't be delivered till September 2008! But, judging from the wonderful day of sailing I had on her recently as well as all the very positive feedback on Amel yachts in general, it will be well worth waiting for. My plans are to live aboard and to travel to far flung places, away from the maddening crowds, and also to use her for scuba diving trips to remote tropical locations with friends. I have done a lot of online research, in particular going through most of the very useful info on this site and by reading most of Patrick Naegels' excellent AmelCaramel webpages. However, I still have quite a few questions, some of which have already been dealt with by the Amel sales staff. For instance, I'm aware that some Super Maramu owners are sailing with diving compressors onboard. I've been told that Amel can install a Poseidon Junior II in the port cockpit locker. Are there any owners here with such an installation? And if so, is it with the (single phase) electric drive? FYI, I have been looking at the bigger cousin of the Bauer Junior, the Oceanus, which has a 40% higher filling capacity for the same dimensions and a gain of only 6 kg in weight. I have ordered the Comfort Pack as 1 of the options for my 54, so there should not be a problem charging batteries, running the 160 ltr/hr Dessalator as well as charging batteries, and filling diving tanks, all at the same time. I would greatly appreciate any feedback from anyone on this. Needless to say, I have other questions on various boat options, set ups and general tricks of the trade, but those will come in due course. Last but not least, if there are any Amel owners out there who might require someone to help with watchkeeping during a long passage, I would be delighted to assist. Naturally, I will arrange for my own travel to and from the boat and I'm happy to contribute towards any subsistence costs. Many thanks and fair winds. Roger
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Future Amel 54 owner
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Roger, We have the Poseidon Junior 11 with electric drive. Neat installation.Noisy ( tell me a compressor that isnt!) but fills an empty bottle in about 28 minutes. Very happy with it. Cheers, Ian .Pen Azen, SM 302
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Help for Specs.
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Dear John, Am I right to recall that you are an enthusiastic owner of a Kiwi built RIB with an aluminium hull? If so can you send me the details? I am looking at the Southern Pacific Sheerwater, made in Auckland, 3.09m, weighs only 38kgs. Do you carry yours on the aft coachroof or in davits?
To date we have had a Carib, very strong but also very heavy!We are toying with the idea of davits and would be interested to hear from anyone who has fitted the Amel ones . Also, we have at last done what we should have done when we first bought Pen Azen, namely redesigned the spray hood so we can stand under it and see forward.We did it in Brazil with a very tight timetable . The workmanship leaves something to be desired but the overall effect is an enormous improvement.Essentially all we did was to lengthen the existing stainless frames by 4 cm for the aft two and by 10cm for the forward one. They stay in their original mounts and fold down about 4cm higher than the original. We used the same attachment for the forward edge of the sprayhood and the sprayhood cover when the sprayhood is folded away ( Never folded away on our boat, be it Caribbean or Cape Horn).This allows me ( 6 foot in my socks) to stand upright under the new sprayhood ,wearing shoes. We also made the whole of the forward panel of clear vinyl which can be zipped open. At last we can see where we are going when we are standing up AND I can leave the hood up and stand behind the wheel with my head out of the window AND I can sit on the aft coachroof and see forward---just like the Maramu and the Sharki and no doubt every other Amel except the SM! ( Incidentally, I am sure that tucked away in the Amel archives are to be found various versions of an improved sprayhoood for the SM but under the ancien regime such an alteration would have been the subject of a firm "Non"!) Anyway, my thanks to Claude and Vito and various other owners who trod the sprayhood path ahead of us. If anyone else is thinking of doing the same thing I can only encourage them as heartily as possible.There are various versions on various boats. If someone will kindly tell me how to add photos to this website I will arrange for the Admiral to bring her dongle into a cybercafe and show you the end result. The stitching is not the prettiest and dear Mario who built the hood for us failed to warn us that he only had brown ( two different browns at that!) leather for the chafing strips, somewhat novel on white Sunbrella but it does the trick. If Brazil had had Stanoid ( which I think is the Amel material) that would have been even better but the Sunbrella is pretty sturdy. Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay.
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Future Amel 54 owner
Roger Frederiks <rofred@...>
Hello, Amel owners/adventurers,
Just to introduce myself to the group, having ordered a new 54 some 10 days ago. She won't be delivered till September 2008! But, judging from the wonderful day of sailing I had on her recently as well as all the very positive feedback on Amel yachts in general, it will be well worth waiting for. My plans are to live aboard and to travel to far flung places, away from the maddening crowds, and also to use her for scuba diving trips to remote tropical locations with friends. I have done a lot of online research, in particular going through most of the very useful info on this site and by reading most of Patrick Naegels' excellent AmelCaramel webpages. However, I still have quite a few questions, some of which have already been dealt with by the Amel sales staff. For instance, I'm aware that some Super Maramu owners are sailing with diving compressors onboard. I've been told that Amel can install a Poseidon Junior II in the port cockpit locker. Are there any owners here with such an installation? And if so, is it with the (single phase) electric drive? FYI, I have been looking at the bigger cousin of the Bauer Junior, the Oceanus, which has a 40% higher filling capacity for the same dimensions and a gain of only 6 kg in weight. I have ordered the Comfort Pack as 1 of the options for my 54, so there should not be a problem charging batteries, running the 160 ltr/hr Dessalator as well as charging batteries, and filling diving tanks, all at the same time. I would greatly appreciate any feedback from anyone on this. Needless to say, I have other questions on various boat options, set ups and general tricks of the trade, but those will come in due course. Last but not least, if there are any Amel owners out there who might require someone to help with watchkeeping during a long passage, I would be delighted to assist. Naturally, I will arrange for my own travel to and from the boat and I'm happy to contribute towards any subsistence costs. Many thanks and fair winds. Roger
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SM 1994 for sale
erik ortel
To my regret, I am selling my 1994 SM. Any interested parties may
contact me at the above address. Thank you.
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