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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioner

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,

Is this the unit that you put in your aft cabin?

http://www.marinnovative.com/index.php?plugin=Products&id=36&title=marine-air-vtd10kz-410a-230v

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioner

 

 

Eric,

 

Our aft cabin Climma unit failed 16 months ago quite spectacularly: one of the capacitors inside the control box was found to have melted inside.  Nonetheless, the underlying reason for the failure was identified as salt water inside the compressor.

 

As we were about to depart Fort Lauderdale for Nova Scotia at the time, and not feeling like spending the summer without A/C, we purchased a "Marine Air" Vector Airrr rated 12,000 BTU @ 60 Hz for $2,244 with reverse heating.  This was a ___drop-in replacement___ both for the control keypad and for the unit itself.  Electric heating was only available special order, 3 weeks lead, and if I understand correctly the electric would be additional to the reverse, so you could use either or both (but verify).  The manufacturer's plate reads: "BTU derated at 50 Hz"

 

The control keypad has a small digital screen so you can see current air return temperature and set temperature.

 

This unit turned out to be much more powerful than the old Climma it replaced.  We have mostly used it with our generator, although evidently sometimes we have been plugged in.  As a heater, it is a monster compared to the Climmas, and heats up the aft cabin very effectively.



One *** major *** difference from the two Climma that remain on Peregrinus:  We can leave the breaker in the salon in the "on" position permanently if we wish (we generally do not), and leave the controller on standby.  If we want to turn the aft cabin a/c or heating on or off, we do not have to walk all the way to the salon.  This is *** not true *** of our Climmas, which, if put on standby, leave the water pump on needlessly.  We do not know if this is the result of bad maintenance of the Climmas on No. 350 or if that's the way it was from the factory.



One error we made: because it was only $68 more than the $2,176 for the 10,000 BTU, we purchased the 12,000 BTU.  We got greedy.  The fan is too powerful and clearly the outlet in the aft cabin is undersized for this, resulting in too much draft and airflow noise for our taste.  We are sensitive to this, and we realise most people aren't bothered.  But we are.  If we were to replace it again, for sure we would purchase the 10,000 BTU.

 

Peregrinus

SM2K #350

At dock in La Rochelle


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

Peter Buckley <carhartt@...>
 

Hi Derick,
Well it’s off and out, and the motor has had a complete overhaul..$$$$$$$$. The bow thruster is in pieces and I will create a link to all the images when I get back into my office. It is very strange how it was manufactured or it has 
seen some damage at some time and the repair was only a band aid one.

Thank you for your words of support. It was very tight but it did come with time.

Regards

Peter

Gradiva
Mango #70
Raymond Island, Australia

-- 
Peter Buckley

83 Twelfth Avenue
Raymond Island VIC 3880

Phone: 0428 427 786

Email: carhartt@...


From: "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 27 Jul 2015 19:36:27 -0700
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Mango Bow Thruster removal.

 

Peter,


I have just gone through this.  I had not been able to lower the bow thruster shaft out of the motor housing since purchasing Brava 2 years ago. It seemed well and firmly stuck. Instead I had to have a diver replace the nylon screws on the propeller the first time I had a problem. 

In my earlier attempts to disconnect the bow thruster shaft, I had removed the four bolts that hold the shaft to the motor, and had repeatedly squirted PB Blaster into the bolt holes, and let it sit for a long time (because it still could not be moved).  I then reassembled the bow thuster after the diver did the propeller replacement and I used the bow thruster without incident. In the meantime I purchased the special tool that grabs the shaft and has 4 vertical screws to push against the bottom of the motor housing.

Then last month I got something caught in the bow thruster again and l decided it was time to try out the new tool.  I once again unscrewed the 4 bolts holding the motor to the shaft and again squirted copious amounts of PB Blaster into the bolt holes.  I then assembled the special tool around the shaft and tried using it, being careful to bit-by-bit evenly tighten the four vertical bolts that push on the electric motor housing bottom.

At first I thought it was moving, but it turned out that the special tool was just slipping down the shaft.  So I took it back off, put more PB Blaster through the four bolt holes in the motor housing, cleaned up all the PB Blaster on the shaft, and refit the special tool, being sure to crank it down on the shaft extra tightly this time. The two semicircular pieces were virtually touching. Again I evenly tightened the vertical bolts on the special tool a little at a time in a circular pattern and wonder of wonders the shaft began to pull out of the motor housing!

As others have depicted in the photos section, there was quite a bit of rust on both the shaft where it entered the motor housing, as well as on the female receptacle in the shaft for the motor spline.  The motor housing itself was so rusted that I was sure I was going to need a new motor - great sheets of iron coming off of the sides and bottom,  Luckily I had two obsessive/compulsive crew members who spent several hours with a variety of implements (including steel wool and a tooth brush) getting the rust off and getting down to bare metal.  Based on feedback from this forum, I had purchased Corrosion Block grease, and we then used that generously on the inside and the outside of the motor housing, as well as on the male and female parts of the spline.  Everything reassembled beautifully, and I can now drop the bowthruster on demand as God (and Henry Amel) intended.

Courage my friend - you can do it too!

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua for hurricane season
  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator pump issue

David Pawley
 

Suggest you try balancing the flows, normally this is done, by closing the SW outlet valve from AC condenser, until either there is a discernible increase in outlet temperature of SW temp (Don't want increase Compressor disch temp) or until you get satisfactory flow to the Dom refrig.

If this works out.

For  a long term solution, the outlet valve should be a valve designed for throttled flow (definetly not a gate valve), the industry method of solving this issue (so long as the SW flow is adequate) is to install a orifice plate (determined by Engineer, or trial and error). Good luck.

On 31 July 2015 at 07:10, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have an Amel 54 and have trouble getting enough seawater flow through the refrigeration units while the air conditioning is running. It seems the 3 AC units, which share a common pump, as do the 3 refrigerator/freezers steel the cooling water. I routinely see the refrigerator compressors overheat and shut down from lack of flow. Each refrigerator compressor has a flow sensor, and with the AC pump running, evidently they do not see enough flow.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so, is there a fix, short of installing a dedicated seawater intake for the AC pump?

Thanks,
James Wendell

Amel 54 Phantom (ex Bozo Cinq)



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioner

Eric Freedman
 

Gary,

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:46 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Air Conditioner

 

 

Hi Eric:

 

I have a little knowledge about A/C systems.  Most hermetically sealed A/C compressor pumps are piston type pumps with reed valves in them to circulate the refrigerant in one direction as they compress the refrigerant gas.  I don't know the typical reed valve failure mode but anything that moves like they must will eventually fatigue fail (I would guess).

 

When I installed a 4th AC unit in the galley of my SM (documented in the photos section and the best addition I ever made to my boat) I purchased the drop in unit from Veco USA   (301-352-6962) and they had it drop shipped from Italy to Antigua where I was doing the install.  It was a bit pricy but was a bigger unit ( a 10HE as opposed to the 9HE for the other three Amel original units ).  If you go with a new unit you would have to verify that the physical dimensions would work as I think the 10 HE is slightly larger than the 9HE and the aft head area is a tight fit (as you know).

 

Good luck with fixing your problem. 

 

Best, 

 

Gary S. SIlver

Amel SM #335

s/v Liahona


Re: Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Ian:  

I have in my notes the following for the main sail outhaul gearbox: 
 
 PN  Reducteur 0256889
 Type MVA M33C
 Reduction 1/60

I took this information off of a data plate that was attached to a new gearbox that I purchased from Amel.  It was a hard dataplate not just a sticker.  I thought I had a picture of it but I can't locate the photo. 

Hope this might help. 

All the best, 

Gary Silver 
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM #335   


Re: Air Conditioner

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric:

I have a little knowledge about A/C systems.  Most hermetically sealed A/C compressor pumps are piston type pumps with reed valves in them to circulate the refrigerant in one direction as they compress the refrigerant gas.  I don't know the typical reed valve failure mode but anything that moves like they must will eventually fatigue fail (I would guess).

When I installed a 4th AC unit in the galley of my SM (documented in the photos section and the best addition I ever made to my boat) I purchased the drop in unit from Veco USA   (301-352-6962) and they had it drop shipped from Italy to Antigua where I was doing the install.  It was a bit pricy but was a bigger unit ( a 10HE as opposed to the 9HE for the other three Amel original units ).  If you go with a new unit you would have to verify that the physical dimensions would work as I think the 10 HE is slightly larger than the 9HE and the aft head area is a tight fit (as you know).

Good luck with fixing your problem. 

Best, 

Gary S. SIlver
Amel SM #335
s/v Liahona


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Eric

Yes - I also had to change the controller above which now has a digital temperature gauge and fan and temperature dial.

Andrew

SM472
Ronpische 

On 31 Jul 2015, at 00:15, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Andrew,

Did you replace it with another climma 9eh unit?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

 

 

I had the same problem with our rear unit – it turned out easier  and as I recall I think cheaper to replace the whole unit than just the compressor (compact 9 EH unit I think). I got it from http://www.penguinfrigo.co.uk/ they gave me a 25% discount on their prices.

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM472

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

 

 

Hi Bill,

I already spoke with Courtney and it is about 2700 plus 1000 airfreight to get it to the USA before November.

I was just wondering if anyone has had this problem in the past?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:56 AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

 

 

Eric,

 

That's too bad, but 13 years is a long life in terms of normal A/C units. Climma builds a bullet-proof A/C system...if you had a Cruisair, you would have faced this issue years ago.

 

The Climma factory repair depot in Italy will repair anything at reasonable costs, but I know you are not in Italy.

 

I have lost track of where you are. If you are in St. Martin, at least it will be duty free.

 

If you are in the US, I am sure that you know about:

Coastal Climate Control, Inc. Climma and Frigoboat

PO Box 4535

Annapolis, MD 21403

(301) 352.5738 (ph)

(301) 352.5739 (fax)

The above stocks most Climma parts and an email to the above email will normally be answered by Courtney, who really knows her Climma and Frigoboat stuff. I believe that you can remove your A/C unit and send it to Coastal Climate Control for repair (easy to remove...thank you Captain Amel). If it were me and I was in the US, I would send it to Coastal.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

 

 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 7:06 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I has a second A/C technician on board Kimberlite and they concur that my compressor  for my 9eh unit

Is dead. They say the compressor is running , but there seems to be some sort of valve in the compressor

That is not closing and the compressor does not compress.

 

Has anyone had this problem,.

Were you able to fix it?

 

It seems that the replacement is expensive and has to be Air Freighted from Europe.

I was thinking of changing it out to a USA manufactured product.

 

Has anyone done this and if so what unit did you use. This unit is for the aft cabin.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator pump issue

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Good idea on the strainer, although I have no alarm on the panel, which I saw recently when the engine room insulation started to peel off and fall into the bilge. Possible some of that got into the strainer, but not sure how the bilge pump and intake through hull could be related. I will check though.
I just bought the boat, so I will ask the PO if I cannot resolve the problem.
Thanks


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

Eric Freedman
 

Ian,

I have photos of the gearbox that was sent to me in pieces by Leroy sommers .

Send me your Eric-mail if you wish the photos.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:48 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Ian Shepherd
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

 

 

Ian,

When brand new, there is no lable or plate. There is no engraved number. I
sent you a separate email of photos of a new one.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Jul 30, 2015 9:45 AM, "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Eric,
>
> that's what I told them. Leroy Somers UK has been taken over by Emmerson
> and they refuse to trade without a photo of the nameplate which was a
> sticker and long gone. It's unbelievable that these people cannot identify
> this model from the photo I sent them from their own catalogue!
>
> Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus
>
>
>
> On 29/07/2015 16:27, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> *Ian,*
>
> *The drawing that I have of the gearbox is labeled Minibloc-MVA*
>
> *Fair Winds*
>
> *Eric*
>
> *Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* amelyachtowners@... [
> mailto:amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:54 AM
> *To:* amelyachtowners@...
> *Subject:* [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification
>
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone please have the exact model/part number of the Leroy Somers
> reduction gearbox that is attached to the sail furling motors? I am
> trying to get a part from LS UK to refurbish a worn box. I have told
> them it's a Model D20 R1/60 GW211101 Type MVA M33 but they seem unable
> to identify the box from this.
>
> Any further information would be most helpful. Thanks
>
> --
> Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

Eric Freedman
 

Andrew,

Did you replace it with another climma 9eh unit?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

 

 

I had the same problem with our rear unit – it turned out easier  and as I recall I think cheaper to replace the whole unit than just the compressor (compact 9 EH unit I think). I got it from http://www.penguinfrigo.co.uk/ they gave me a 25% discount on their prices.

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM472

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

 

 

Hi Bill,

I already spoke with Courtney and it is about 2700 plus 1000 airfreight to get it to the USA before November.

I was just wondering if anyone has had this problem in the past?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:56 AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Air Conditioner

 

 

Eric,

 

That's too bad, but 13 years is a long life in terms of normal A/C units. Climma builds a bullet-proof A/C system...if you had a Cruisair, you would have faced this issue years ago.

 

The Climma factory repair depot in Italy will repair anything at reasonable costs, but I know you are not in Italy.

 

I have lost track of where you are. If you are in St. Martin, at least it will be duty free.

 

If you are in the US, I am sure that you know about:

Coastal Climate Control, Inc. Climma and Frigoboat

PO Box 4535

Annapolis, MD 21403

(301) 352.5738 (ph)

(301) 352.5739 (fax)

The above stocks most Climma parts and an email to the above email will normally be answered by Courtney, who really knows her Climma and Frigoboat stuff. I believe that you can remove your A/C unit and send it to Coastal Climate Control for repair (easy to remove...thank you Captain Amel). If it were me and I was in the US, I would send it to Coastal.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

 

 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 7:06 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I has a second A/C technician on board Kimberlite and they concur that my compressor  for my 9eh unit

Is dead. They say the compressor is running , but there seems to be some sort of valve in the compressor

That is not closing and the compressor does not compress.

 

Has anyone had this problem,.

Were you able to fix it?

 

It seems that the replacement is expensive and has to be Air Freighted from Europe.

I was thinking of changing it out to a USA manufactured product.

 

Has anyone done this and if so what unit did you use. This unit is for the aft cabin.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator pump issue

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Have no experience with the 54, but have you check the strainer? Is it clean?
I would ask the previous owner of Bozo Cinq if he had experience that before.
Sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 7/30/15, James Wendell ms42phantom54@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator pump issue
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015, 4:10 PM


 









I have an
Amel 54 and have trouble getting enough seawater flow
through the refrigeration units while the air conditioning
is running. It seems the 3 AC units, which share a common
pump, as do the 3 refrigerator/freezers steel the cooling
water. I routinely see the refrigerator compressors overheat
and shut down from lack of flow. Each refrigerator
compressor has a flow sensor, and with the AC pump running,
evidently they do not see enough flow.
Has anyone
else experienced this problem? If so, is there a fix, short
of installing a dedicated seawater intake for the AC
pump?
Thanks,James
Wendell
Amel 54
Phantom (ex Bozo Cinq)









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Refrigerator pump issue

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

I have an Amel 54 and have trouble getting enough seawater flow through the refrigeration units while the air conditioning is running. It seems the 3 AC units, which share a common pump, as do the 3 refrigerator/freezers steel the cooling water. I routinely see the refrigerator compressors overheat and shut down from lack of flow. Each refrigerator compressor has a flow sensor, and with the AC pump running, evidently they do not see enough flow.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so, is there a fix, short of installing a dedicated seawater intake for the AC pump?

Thanks,
James Wendell

Amel 54 Phantom (ex Bozo Cinq)


Zinc for Older Maramu

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi all, Getting ready to haul for paint, zinc and look-see. I'd like to have them ready before. What is the proper size of rudder zincs? Are there two on the rudder? Are there other ones? Bottom paint... will four gallons be enough? Five? Anything else I should be looking for? 1989 Older Maramu #261 Thanks, Ross


Re: Mizzen sail

Paul Osterberg
 

We are closed by on Serifos, but my wife claim no good harbor on Amorgos (she might be wrong), We will leave for Paros tomorrow,
If you want we can exchange experience being new owner of an Amel SM (I have the feeling that you as well as me are new owner) over a beer or a glass of vine. If interested suggest rendezvous point
You can reach med on sykerpa@...
Paul on SYKerpa #259


Mizzen sail

jgermain@...
 

For the first time 4 days ago, we used the mizzen.  Never used before!  New sail.


I was surprised how it is cut (Russo sails).  It has a concave area at the head but a convex area at the foot!  How are your mizzen sails cut?  This is a tri radial.


Confused in Amorgos, GR (well worth the visit IMO) 


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007


Re: Air Conditioner

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Eric,

Our aft cabin Climma unit failed 16 months ago quite spectacularly: one of the capacitors inside the control box was found to have melted inside.  Nonetheless, the underlying reason for the failure was identified as salt water inside the compressor.

As we were about to depart Fort Lauderdale for Nova Scotia at the time, and not feeling like spending the summer without A/C, we purchased a "Marine Air" Vector Airrr rated 12,000 BTU @ 60 Hz for $2,244 with reverse heating.  This was a ___drop-in replacement___ both for the control keypad and for the unit itself.  Electric heating was only available special order, 3 weeks lead, and if I understand correctly the electric would be additional to the reverse, so you could use either or both (but verify).  The manufacturer's plate reads: "BTU derated at 50 Hz"

The control keypad has a small digital screen so you can see current air return temperature and set temperature.

This unit turned out to be much more powerful than the old Climma it replaced.  We have mostly used it with our generator, although evidently sometimes we have been plugged in.  As a heater, it is a monster compared to the Climmas, and heats up the aft cabin very effectively.

One *** major *** difference from the two Climma that remain on Peregrinus:  We can leave the breaker in the salon in the "on" position permanently if we wish (we generally do not), and leave the controller on standby.  If we want to turn the aft cabin a/c or heating on or off, we do not have to walk all the way to the salon.  This is *** not true *** of our Climmas, which, if put on standby, leave the water pump on needlessly.  We do not know if this is the result of bad maintenance of the Climmas on No. 350 or if that's the way it was from the factory.

One error we made: because it was only $68 more than the $2,176 for the 10,000 BTU, we purchased the 12,000 BTU.  We got greedy.  The fan is too powerful and clearly the outlet in the aft cabin is undersized for this, resulting in too much draft and airflow noise for our taste.  We are sensitive to this, and we realise most people aren't bothered.  But we are.  If we were to replace it again, for sure we would purchase the 10,000 BTU.

Peregrinus
SM2K #350
At dock in La Rochelle


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Ian,
      Amel did sell me a single gear wheel and seals in 2009, the cost was around Euros 150 plus carriage.
Emerson are a massive American owned, global electrical manufacturing and distribution company.
Regards,
Trevor
Sea Fever of Cuan
Sm 425 Redline
Mexico
For Sale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian,

A year ago or maybe less Maud told me she had a bronze gear for the furler gearbox in stock.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 30, 2015 4:06 PM, "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus
Hi Bill,

I was dealing with Transdrive who deal with Leroy, now Emmerson whoever they are ........ Transdrive were interested in selling a one off and they work closely with Leroy. I doubt if Amel will sell just the gearwheel I need, but they are presently selling me a complete unit. Maybe I will find a machine shop that can copy the bronze gear.

Ian

SM2K Crusader Cyprus

On 30/07/2015 08:51, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Ian,

I bought my spare from Amel SAV.

I do not think that you will save too much more than about 100 euros if Emmerson agrees to sell you...AND...Leroy Somer previously had a minimum order of about 10...maybe Emmerson is different. This is the first I have heard of this Emmerson thing. I assume that you are correct?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 30, 2015 9:45 AM, "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Eric,

that's what I told them. Leroy Somers UK has been taken over by Emmerson and they refuse to trade without a photo of the nameplate which was a sticker and long gone. It's unbelievable that these people cannot identify this model from the photo I sent them from their own catalogue!

Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus


On 29/07/2015 16:27, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Ian,

The drawing that I have of the gearbox is labeled  Minibloc-MVA

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

 

 

Does anyone please have the exact model/part number of the Leroy Somers
reduction gearbox that is attached to the sail furling motors? I am
trying to get a part from LS UK to refurbish a worn box. I have told
them it's a Model D20 R1/60 GW211101 Type MVA M33 but they seem unable
to identify the box from this.

Any further information would be most helpful. Thanks

--
Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

Ian Shepherd
 


Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus
Hi Bill,

I was dealing with Transdrive who deal with Leroy, now Emmerson whoever they are ........ Transdrive were interested in selling a one off and they work closely with Leroy. I doubt if Amel will sell just the gearwheel I need, but they are presently selling me a complete unit. Maybe I will find a machine shop that can copy the bronze gear.

Ian

SM2K Crusader Cyprus

On 30/07/2015 08:51, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Ian,

I bought my spare from Amel SAV.

I do not think that you will save too much more than about 100 euros if Emmerson agrees to sell you...AND...Leroy Somer previously had a minimum order of about 10...maybe Emmerson is different. This is the first I have heard of this Emmerson thing. I assume that you are correct?

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 30, 2015 9:45 AM, "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Eric,

that's what I told them. Leroy Somers UK has been taken over by Emmerson and they refuse to trade without a photo of the nameplate which was a sticker and long gone. It's unbelievable that these people cannot identify this model from the photo I sent them from their own catalogue!

Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus


On 29/07/2015 16:27, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Ian,

The drawing that I have of the gearbox is labeled  Minibloc-MVA

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

 

 

Does anyone please have the exact model/part number of the Leroy Somers
reduction gearbox that is attached to the sail furling motors? I am
trying to get a part from LS UK to refurbish a worn box. I have told
them it's a Model D20 R1/60 GW211101 Type MVA M33 but they seem unable
to identify the box from this.

Any further information would be most helpful. Thanks

--
Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

Ian Shepherd
 









 Thanks Bill,

actually when I got my last one from Amel there was a silver stick on label and I thought I had the info from it written down correctly. But the label had to go when I sprayed the box with Hammerite paint. The frustrating thing is that I sent them a photo of the correct box from their own catalogue but they said it was not enough!! For the moment I have bitten the bullet and ordered a spare from Amel and will defer rebuilding the old one until I can get someone from Leroy to admit they actually make the gearbox!

I hope you and Judy are well. Just waiting for the gearbox before setting off to Marmaris for new dodger windows.

Regards

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader

On 30/07/2015 08:48, Bill & Judy Rouse wrote:

Ian,

When brand new, there is no lable or plate. There is no engraved number. I sent you a separate email of photos of a new one.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 30, 2015 9:45 AM, "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Eric,

that's what I told them. Leroy Somers UK has been taken over by Emmerson and they refuse to trade without a photo of the nameplate which was a sticker and long gone. It's unbelievable that these people cannot identify this model from the photo I sent them from their own catalogue!

Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus


On 29/07/2015 16:27, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Ian,

The drawing that I have of the gearbox is labeled  Minibloc-MVA

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sail Furling Gearbox Specification

 

 

Does anyone please have the exact model/part number of the Leroy Somers
reduction gearbox that is attached to the sail furling motors? I am
trying to get a part from LS UK to refurbish a worn box. I have told
them it's a Model D20 R1/60 GW211101 Type MVA M33 but they seem unable
to identify the box from this.

Any further information would be most helpful. Thanks

--
Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus