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Water Maker Power Draw

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

9 June 2006

REGARDING POWER DRAW OF DESSALATOR 160 l/hr WATER MAKER

I have verified that the power consumptions on my Dessalator Water Maker on my hull #
335 Amel SM 2000 are as follows:

1. Control Circuity on with only the Low Pressure Pump Running = 2 amps = 430 watts

2. Control Circuity on plus Low Pressure Pump Running and High Pressure Pump running
under no load (i.e. the pressure not dialed up) = 13.5 amps = 1390 watts

3. Same as #2 above but running at operating pressure making 160 l/hr = 14.4 amps =
2550 watts

My 20 amp circuit breaker would randomly trip while running with these loads. I ordered
a new 20 amp breaker and a 25 amp breaker from Amel, (33 Euro and 48 Euro
respectively). I installed the 20 amp breaker and haven't had any trips in about 15 hours
of operation. It appears to me that a properly working 20 amp breaker sholuld be
adequate for this installation.

If your water maker is tripping its 20 amp breaker I recommend using a clamp amp meter
to measure the current draw and if it is close to the values listed above then I suspect a
"weak" circuit breaker.

Regards. Gary Silver


Re: Motor on fuler for the Main Sail

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Linda DeSalvo <liebling207@...> wrote:
James:
The shaft on the main sail furling motor on our SM 2000 fractured in such a way that the
shaft remained partially engaged and would work while making a lot of noise. I originally
thought that the gear box was contaminated and the gears were making the noise but in
the process of disassembly we found the fractured shaft of the motor. This could be the
cause of the noise you are hearing. I would lower the motor-gear box assembly and see if
you can identify the source.

Amel supplied a new motor $US 606.00 in Nov 2004. It took about 3 hours of labor for
repaiirs.


Regards, Gary Silver


The motor on furler on the main sail is making a lot of noise. Is there anyone out there
that has had this problem and what did you do about it.
Thanks James DeSalvo Liebling207

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watermaker,TDS meter

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

There seems to be no doubt that the dessalateur salinity detector is
non functioning.A cheap and easy solution is to fit a simple TDS meter
in the output line.Such a meter is sold by an American company
tdsmeter.com and also sold in the UK ro-man.com for £23.50.
It is very small and has two sensors. I did not use the "in" sensor
and put the "out" sensor in the blue output line which can be found
behind the wooden cover at the front ot the big cockpit locker. This
blue pipe is easily cut with a razor knife and the ends pushed in as
far as they will go into the sensor. The wires from the sensors are
connected to the meter with a plug which is quite hard to pull out.
Once removed the plug can be pushed through the small gap created by
removing the screws holding the panel in place in the galley. The
meter is held in place with velcro.
The actual meter is only 3x2x0.75 inches with a very small screen.It
is powered by two button cells and stays on for about 20-30 seconds
when the on button is pushed. It does not have an alarm. It is sold
either with fittings for a small or a larger tube which is needed for
my 160ltr ph watermaker.Make sure that the tubes are pushed fully in
and the do a freshwater flush of the membranes to make sure there are
no leaks before replacing the coverboard.
I used it yesterday for the first time and got an initial reading of
over 9,000 ppm which soon went down to about 360ppm which is better
than Maltese mains water.
Incidentally I have followed Olivier's advice and never sterilised or
pickled the membranes which are still delivering 160 ltr. ph. even
though the machine stands idle for about five months a year. We do
however always flush it with product water after use if it is going to
stand idle for more than a few days. We never take on shore water and
rely totally on this machine.
With the benefit of hind sight I should have put both sensors in the
product out line !

Best wishes to all, Anne and John, SM 319


Moorings at the Huntington Yacht Club

eric freedman
 

Hi All,
I was away last week and heard that someone tried to get a mooring at The
Huntington yacht club.
I do not know if they were OCC, Tartan Group members, Amel group members, or
just cruising acquaintances.
They were of the impression that moorings and slips were free at they knew
me. Please make a note that the moorings at the Huntington Yacht Club are
$40 per night and a slip is $3- a foot per night.
Fair winds,
Eric Freedman
Port officer Huntington Long Island New York.

-----Original Message-----
From: DickGuckel [mailto:captain.dick@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:05 PM
To: Undisclosed recipients:
Subject: OCC June E-mail List Newsletter

JUNE 2006 MONTHLY ELECTRONIC MAIL NEWSLETTER
Next Electronic Newsletter: July 1, 2006
Next full list: July 1, 2006 (quarterly)

OCC WEB SITE:
At the end of this update, along with the names, etc. of OCC
Officer contacts, I have included how to access our OCC web site.

If you experience problems receiving this update please let me
know and I will correct it.

Have you changed your address or phone/fax/e-mail numbers?
Bought a new boat? Please also inform the Club Secretary, Richard
Anderton (secretary@oceancruisingclub.org) or
38 Acacia Road, Hampton, Middlesex TW12 3DS, UK. Also, please be
aware that the non-email information contained in this update may
not be as current as the official list maintained by Richard
Anderton our Secretary.

If the full list attachment is too much for you please let me
know.
Optionally, I can send:
- the full list in Zipped format as an attachment
- only the updates with the full list sent January or
January and July.
- only the updates
- a list containing only names and e-mail addresses
- a reasonable combination of the above
- nothing at all

NB For those of you that have e-mail filter software set up,
all of the e-mails I send to you will contain "OCC" at the
beginning of the subject line. Actually, due to the plethora of
junk mail we all are receiving and the consequential use of spam
filters, it would be prudent of all members to begin the subject
line of all OCC e-mail messages to each other with "OCC"

Fair winds,
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QUESTIONS/ANNOUNCEMENTS:

The following is a significant change from this item listed last
month (May):

TOTAL PRODUCT RECALL - PAINS WESSEX IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE
(5/2006)
PAINS WESSEX ANNOUNCES TOTAL RECALL OF ALL white collision
warning (MK7) hand flares, Item No. 52651

Following investigations carried out after an incident in which a
member of the public was injured, Pains Wessex has announced a
total recall of all its Pains Wessex White Collision Warning
(MK7) Hand Flares Item No 52651.

No Red (MK7) Hand Flares nor any other Pains Wessex products are
being recalled. The recall does not affect Pains Wessex Australia
Aurora Hand Flares.

Pains Wessex has identified that there may be a risk that some of
these white flares will not fire as intended. All white flares
are therefore being recalled as a safety precaution.
Additionally, this total recall will allow us to bring these
products into our continuing investigation.

The Pains Wessex White Collision Warning (MK 7) Hand Flare Item
No 52651 is sold on its own and is also contained as a part of
the Collision Warn-Off Kit and the ORC RORC Distress Kit.

Customers with in-date Pains Wessex White Collision Warning (MK7)
Hand Flares Item No 52651 are requested not to use the flare, and
to return it immediately to the place of purchase where the
purchase price will be refunded. If unable to return the flare to
the place of purchase, customers may take the flare to their
nearest chandler.

Customers with out-of-date Pains Wessex White Collision Warning
(MK7) Hand Flares Item No 52651 should contact Pains Wessex on
+44(0)2392 623965.

To assist its customers with this recall, Pains Wessex has set up
a help line during office hours on +44(0)2392 623962 or the
company can be contacted via email at recall@pwss.com.

For more press information please contact ADPR Ltd, Tel +44 (0)
1935 826451, Mob +44 (0) 797 1019377 or email
alice@adpr.co.uk----
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USA(SE) WELCOMES SPRING ON THE CHESAPEAKE - 4-7 JUNE
Jim and Pepper McHutchison have put together a great OCC SPRING
CRUISE for all members who will be in the Chesapeake
June 4 - 7. We will assemble on Sunday, June 4th, in Dun Cove on
Harris Creek just north of Knapp's Narrows (38deg. 44.8N,
76deg.21.1W). Launches will transport us to a welcoming dinner at
Harrison's, Tilghman Island ($30/person). Monday evening we'll
rendezvous on the Wye River for a raft-up. Tuesday we visit
Baltimore's Inner Harbor (39deg.17N, 76deg.36.7W) anchoring near
square-rigger U.S.S. Constellation or mooring in Henderson's
marina at Fells Point and having dinner ashore. Tours of Fort
McHenry of "Star-Spangled Banner" fame will be available. The
finale will be Wednesday afternoon at Gibson Island Yacht
Squadron's clubhouse for a barbecue - a really nice way to
celebrate spring sailing. Contact Jim and Pepper at 410 745 6223
or at Jemchutch@aol.com to let them know you're coming, please.

The traditional pre-Boat Show rendezvous at Mear's Marina, Back
Creek, Annapolis will be on Wednesday, October 4th and John
Koedel is once again hosting the Piankatank Fall Rendezvous at
Fishing Bay Yacht Club on Jackson Creek
(37deg.32.622N, 76deg.19.281W) on October 13-15, 2006. Mark your
calendars, all you cruisers from far and near--you'll find
Chesapeake Bay a delightful place to stretch the sailing
season! - Fred Hallett, R/C USA(SE)
f.hallett1@toad.net

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REGALIA IN THE UNITED STATES (5/2006)
After working with a website designer, OCC regalia will be easier
to purchase on-line. Located at www.IM-Embroidery.com, the new
"shopping cart" makes it possible to select items and pay by
credit card or cash using PayPal. Orders are sent directly to
Gary and Greta, are processed within 48 hours or less, and,
depending on the item and personalization, are shipped within 24
hours of order completion.

Persons not using credit card or PayPal can still place an order
on-line; however, payment in the form of a check or a money order
should be mailed to IM Embroidery, P.O. Box 3214, Norfolk,
Virginia 23514 at the time of the order. Shipments are not made
until payment is received.

Gary and Greta offer a wide range of regalia items, including the
much sought after burgee. These durable nylon burgees are
reinforced at the tip of the fly making them less susceptible to
wind damage. They currently offer 18 and 24 inch burgees, an 18
inch house flag and the Port Officer flag. They also can
customize clothing orders well beyond the items pictured on the
website.

If you have any questions, either give them a call at
+1-757-627-0031 or
email at greta.gustavson@verizon.net

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HALLOWEEN RALLY AT BEAUFORT, NORTH CAROLINA (6/2006)
The second annual Halloween Rally at Beaufort, NC, will take
place on October 28-29, 2006. We will meet on the Beaufort
waterfront on the afternoon of Saturday the 28th, have some
cocktails and then dinner. On Sunday the 29th we will take a
day cruise to Cape Lookout Bight and back, weather permitting.
Questions, contact Jon Roop Port Officer, Beaufort, NC USA
jonroop@earthlink.net or +1-252-725-0209

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TOBY BAKER (Rear Commodore, USA Northeast) (04/2006)
Rear Commodore USA (NE) Toby Baker announces the details of the
Maine Rally which will be held at Southwest Harbor, Maine on July
21, 2006 at the home of Roving Rear Commodores Nancy & George
Marvin at 10 Seascape Way. The venue includes wine, beer, soft
drinks, dinner and dessert, beginning at 1700 hours. Cost is $25
per person, $10 for children under 14. For those arriving by boat
transportation will be provided for the approximately 2 mi to
their house. Pick-up will be at the Manset Town Dock and will
commence at 1630 and those who will require transportation should
so indicate with their reservation. Despite what guide books may
indicate, anchoring is permitted in Southwest Harbor but do not
anchor in the fairway leading to the head of the harbor. Moorings
are available from the Harbormaster (VHF 16/09) or Hinckley's
(call Hinckley Dock on VHF 10) and dockage is available from
Dysart's Great Harbor Marina (207-244-0117). For those arriving
by car, directions will be provided upon request. Additionally,
George & Nancy are requesting volunteers arriving by car to help
shuttle the boat people to and from the party. Reservations are
requested by July 15 and may be made along with additional
inquiries to Nancy & George, 443-994-0669(anytime) or
207-244-3894(after 10 July) or aa3zo@winlink.org, and Peter
McCrea, 207-354-2314 or panacea35@gmail.com.

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THE OCC WEB SITE HAS BEEN UPGRADED- CREATE YOUR OWN ACCOUNT IF
YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO (USER NAME & PASSWORD) TO UPDATE
YOUR DETAILS ON LINE. (5/2006)

Congratulations to the 222 Members (at the time of writing this)
who have succeeded in creating their own account on The OCC Web
Site, www.oceancruisingclub.org . If you have not yet done so,
please have a go at this so that you may update your own contact
details, yacht, experience and sailing plans on the web. Soon,
you will be able to pay your subscription by secure payment on
line. Later this year we will provide a page on the web for every
member to publish extracts from their log. BUT TO DO ALL THIS YOU
NEED YOUR OWN USER NAME AND PASSWORD.

TO CREATE YOUR ACCOUNT
Please open www.oceancruisingclub.org. and click on 'No Account
Yet, Create One' at the very bottom left hand side of the Home
Page, under Login Form. Select a User Name (no spaces permitted
in this) and enter your e-mail address. If you can not find "No
Account Yet .", Log out of the Web Site (your computer has
probably logged you in automatically as flying and fish) and try
again. You must use an e-mail address already known to the OCC
and which is able to receive an activation message from the OCC.
Choose a Password, and as a security check, enter the name of the
yacht in which you qualified for the OCC. You will then receive
an automatic e-mail to which you must respond to activate your
account.

The message will contain a web address such as
http://www.oceancruisingclub.org/index.php?option=com_registration&task=acti
vate&activation=XXXXXXX.
Either click on this or copy it and paste it into the web address
window and press <return>. This will activate your account.

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on "My Details" to see, and update if necessary, your record on
the Club database. Please use this opportunity to complete and
amend the details on the "My Details Form" to bring your Club
Record up to date, including your "sailing experience" and "plans
aboard" for 2006.

OLD LOG IN PROCESS STILL AVAILABLE FOR "READ ONLY" ACCESS
For a short transitional period you may still log in using
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own account to read information but not to change personal
records or make payments. Please do not change the "My Details"
username or password for <flying> or <Ocean2> as you may deny
access to other members! Soon, you will not be able to get in to
the OCC Web site at all unless you use your own username and
password.

HELP!
If you are not sure what e-mail address the Club holds for you,
see "Members Details" on the Web Site logging in as username
<flying> password < fish> which will still give read only access
to the e-mail addresses known to the OCC.

If you have problems setting up your account, please e-mail the
secretary secretary@oceancruisingclub.org telling him your
preferred username and a password. He will set up your account
and respond by e-mail when he has done so. You may change
username and password when by clicking on "My Details" when you
next log in.
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CHRIS BRIDGE: Cruising in Wales (05/2006)
I'm looking for information about cruising in Wales, especially
charts for and berthing around the Isle of Anglesey. I hope to
visit in August. Tradition is still in Kinvara in Ireland.
contact svtradition@yahoo.com or +353 86 888 0491

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S/v OCEAN FLIGHT FOR SALE
(6/2006)
Dix 43' Built 1995 with extensive interior re-modeling 1998
BUILT OF STEEL, THIS IS AN OCEAN GOING VESSEL OF STYLE AND
CHARACTER, PRESENTED WITH AN EXTENSIVE INVENTORY AND IN EXCELLENT
CONDITION, READY FOR ANY OCEAN PASSAGE.

This design was commissioned by a circum-navigator passing
through Cape Town, to be his boat for the next time round. She
was required to be a go anywhere yacht of modern concept, with
the pace to complete long offshore passages in a reasonable time.
Radius chine hull shape gives good looks, hydrodynamic efficiency
and enhanced resale value.
Ocean Flight was originally built for the owner of her building
yard; the detailing and finish are extraordinary. She is
beautifully built of the highest quality materials, with no
expense spared, throughout her build, refit or maintenance
schedule.
Her second (present) owner carried out extensive remodeling of
the interior and upgrades to systems, sails and instrumentation
in 1998 prior to leaving on an Atlantic circuit. She is
completely self-sufficient from Aries wind vane, solar panels to
a water maker.
Ocean Flight returned to Cape Town in mid 2005; at which time she
benefited from new standing rigging and a complete re-spray. Once
again she is in excellent condition and ready to hit the high
seas again.

Price: ZAR2 000 000.00

Full specifications and a full inventory are readily available
from the owner as under:-

Colleen Douglass
E-mail: ody@iafrica.com
www.yachtsclub.com/1433

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JON ROOP "SALT" for sale (03/2006)
Port Officer and Marine Surveyor Jon Roop offers his boat For
Sale:
"SALT" 47' Cutter-rigged ketch designed by Craig Walters and
completed in 1991 by a custom builder in North Carolina, USA.
Epoxy cold-molded hull built of double-diagonal fir laminates
over 1" Duracore strips inside and out. The masts are carbon
fiber/E-glass composite. Drop-keel design draws 2' 6" retracted
and 8' down; the boat can explore the shallows and is a proven
offshore passagemaker. Power is a Westerbeke (Perkins) 4-108;
spares are included. Presently just finished a substantial
re-fit; SALT can be ready to go cruising with routine
preparations. This is a solid, powerful and attractive craft.
Asking $139,000 USD. Contact Jon Roop at +1-252-725-0209 or
jonroop@earthlink.net

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DICK GUCKEL:
FOR SALE: VANCOUVER 32 (1986) cutter-rigged "Charles Ogalin"
Take advantage of the weak US dollar.
Well equipped for extensive cruising. One owner, Dick Guckel.
Lloyd's Hull Release Certificate (never any blisters), AwlGripped
1999 (Flag Blue), Teak decks, Profurl furling, mast steps, Lewmar
ST winches, heavy ground tackle w/ Lofrans electric windlass,
Raytheon radar, Autohelm, B&G instruments, cabin heater, propane
cooker with oven, Adler/Barbour refrigerator, many more options.
Price reduced: US$79,000
I can be contacted any time for full list of options and photo
at: Home: +1-817-488-2005 Mobile: +1-682-553-8226 or
captain.dick@verizon.net

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DAVID BLACKBURN AND JULIA ASPIN: (6/2005)
FOR SALE "WHANAKE"
42'x 12'6"x7'6" Wood Epoxy Bermudian Cutter designed
by Chris Robertson and beautifully built in Auckland NZ in 1972
of Kauri Pine and Teak.
Much loved she has spent most of her life in OCC ownership
and has sailed over 109,000 miles, always taking great care
of her crew. She is in excellent condition, her woodwork is
superb and she is fully set up for ocean cruising with all
modern conveniences. Gowen Ocean provided new sails in 2005,
so she's ready to sail away anywhere.
Presently lying Costa Brava, owners willing to deliver.
See website www.whanake.com for full information.
Realistically priced at GBP 64,950 (reduced)
Contact David Blackburn / Julia Aspin
Tel: + 34 972 530285 e-mail: whanake_2000@yahoo.com

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SUMMER NEW ENGLAND OCC NET (6/2006)
Roving Rear Commodores Nancy & George Marvin announce the
re-activation of the summer NE OCC net. The net will commence on
01 July 2006 and meet daily on 0730 EDT on 4045mhz USB. This is
an
informal net for use by all OCC members to communicate and keep
in touch. When aboard TRUMPETER, George & Nancy will introduce
the net, but if they are not available the net will still be
available for OCC contacts.
AA3ZO@Winlink.org

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ADDITIONS:

Dunn, Jamie jd6710@bris.ac.uk
Gebow, Debby debby2342@verizon.net
Rogers, Paul pkr@midcoast.com
Williams, Angie angieswill@aol.com
Williams, Michael mikejhwill@aol.com

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CHANGES/DELETIONS (deleted if invalid e-mail address):

Barker, Paddy rgb@rgb-group.co.uk (changed)
Bohlen, Frank bohlen@uconn.edu (changed)
Callum, Roy & Martha rcallumfree@yahoo.com (changed)
Davis, Charles charlesdavis@aapt.net.au (changed)
French, Peter phfrench@hotmail.com (changed)
Hunter, Teddy stirrath@yahoo.co.uk (changed)
Irwin, Richard roirwin@tiscali.co.uk (changed)
Tarbell, Charlie charlestarbell@verizon.net (changed)

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ADDITIONAL DOCKAGE:

AL BOERSMA:
United States, East Coast, Chesapeake Bay. A small cove off the
main branch of the Wye (west) River. Lat: 38-54.77N
Long: 76-10.35W. Telephone: +1-410-827-4817. Water and
electricity (30 amp) available. I can accommodate one boat at my
dock with a draft not to exceed 4 1/2 ft. Call for directions.
For boats with greater draft there are protected anchorages
near-by.
bramare@verizon.net

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logos" then "yacht club logos" and scroll down to "OCC".

U.S.A. Gary Naigle and Greta Gustavson. Please contact Greta
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Dessalator

mcymabm@voila.fr <mcymabm@...>
 

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Dear all,

I would like to thank Ian Shepherd for mentioning my « ABSURD SUGGESTION » concerning DESSALATOR.

On one hand, it is only facts and facts are stubborn: with “good quality” on, you can as well get no water as, far off limits, highly salted water poured in your tank.

On the other hand, I confirm that I received on December 20th 2004 from Patrick WAGNER, Managing Director of the company, a mail explaining that this non functioning design was made deliberately (on purpose).

I can forward it to Ian if he can read French.

I understand that since then other SM owners have reported on this forum that they have unfortunately experienced the same problem, which confirms that it is not only absurd suggestion, but real facts.( If I understand well, Gary Silver, Roy on Excalibur SM #195… ):
The water maker failed to divert bad water and
contaminated our entire water supply.
I fired up the water maker and with the green
light on, and the system producing water I tested the direct output
of the water maker, sure enough the product water was measuring about
9,000 ppm. >

Somebody also confirmed on this forum that he has been told that it is deliberately that this equipment is not connected, to prevent maintenance.

I also met other boats, non AMEL but having DESSALATOR, experiencing the same problem. Wagner confirmed to one of them, in January 2006, that the probe was only there as a mechanical “fuse”: in case of too high pressure in fresh water circuit it would “trip”, being pushed out of its base.

Since this supplier never answered my technical questions, cheats its customers, and also ridiculed all the problems I encountered with my equipment, I consider that this company is not serious at all and with such a way of behaving, only deserves to be pushed out of the market.

As to me, I rather prefer to stick to facts and figures than believe Wagner’s (and British rep) ABSURD “B.S.”. (e.g. 500Hz.)

No hard feelings.

Yves MARTIN d'AIGUEPERSE
Blue Marine
SM N°311


P.S.
1: I already wrote on this forum all the bad experiences I had with this equipment and in particular the 220 v. motor nearly putting fire to my boat because of the inexistent and inadequate original electrical protection of this motor …do not change the circuit breaker for a higher rated one, your motor should not take more. I advise to put a slow blow fuse to prevent from burning in case of blocked rotor….Be carefull!!

2: I just noticed that there are many other unsatisfied people now reporting on this forum.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightweight RIB

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Anne and John, Thanks a lot for that.I have been quoted a reasonable price cif Montevideo. My only problem now is to get the darn thing out of Uruguay without incurring their inport duty (20%) and VAT (33%!) Ian and Judy, Pen Azen.

From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <hollamby@compuserve.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightweight RIB
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:44:07 -0000

Hello Ian and Judy,
Sorry for my delay in replying but I have been away.
My dinghy is a Southern Pacific Shearwater 310 and it is great. It is
now five years old and looks like new despite the fact that it has
been exposed all that time to the strong Meditteranean sun.Another
plus point is that it has three airchambers which our previous AB did
not and it is therefore much less dangerous when, as happened to us in
the Tuamotus, a shark took a bite out of the fabric the size of my hand.
It is fitted with a Mercury 15hp motor with small hydrofoils on the
skeg and will do 24 knots with only my 100 kgs on board in flat water.
It also finally got up on the plane with three heavy adults and a lot
of shopping in choppy water.
It cost much less than any European RIBs when we bought it and if the
price has not gone up I would expect it to be competitive in price
even including air freight. The lightweight is great for lifting it
out onto deck. We will post a pic of it (in the SM319 album)deflated
on the aft cabin top,later today.
Their website is www.southernpacific.co.nz and their ph/fax no is or
was +64-9-4788075
On short passages with good forecasts it is carried on the Amel davits
which can be seen in the pic of my liferaft carrier in the Bali Hai
album. It is essential to lash it down firmly so that it is not thrown
around in a seaway. On very short passages we sometimes hoist the
dinghy and engine on the davits by using the passurelle halyard
clipped on to the davit at the engine end.On longer passages it is
carried inflated but inverted on top of the aft cabin because I am
mindful of the fact that no long time survival in a liferaft has been
recorded without a dinghy being used at the same time for stores etc.
I also recall the experience of an American family whose yacht was run
down at night in bad weather by a ship. The boy went down with the
boat but the couple and the young daughter found themselves in the sea
with their AB dinghy which popped up to the surface as the yacht
disintegrated.
Sadly the father and daughter perished but the mother survived after
the dinghy was blown ashore in NZ. It seems that the father went into
the water to save the daughter and then was unable to get back into
the dinghy. For this reason it is suggested that it is essential to
have a rope tied to the handles either side of the hull with one or
two knots in the scope so that a person in the water has something to
pull themself into the boat.
The ship was traced in Taiwan and in the subsequent case the widow
accepted undisclosed damages in an agreed settlement. It seems that
she was on watch alone when they were run down and she claimed that it
was her practice to go around the deck every 15 minutes to make sure
all was well! We were within 30 miles of them at the time and with
very strong winds and waves there is no way I would even think about
getting out of the cockpit. The other stupid thing that came up was
that they only used their radar when within 12 miles of the coast.
One of the perils of GPS is that people set a course on their
autopilot connecting two set points which are probably being used by
every other vessel thus ensuring maximum exposure to being rundown.

Sorry not to have replied earlier, Anne and John,SM319









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Furuno 1503 - Enable lower sideband

Judy Rouse
 

Does anyone know the code to enable lower sideband on a Furuno 1503?

Judy Rouse
SM Hull 387


Re: RIB on cabintop

Zanareva
 

I manually moved your photo to your album. Don't know why you aren't
allowed !?!
Richard

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<hollamby@...> wrote:

We have tried to post this pic but for reasons known only to Yahoo
it
has gone into the album of pics entitled Aletes SM 240.We cannot
find
out how to delete it from there and at any event when we were trying
to put it in the SM319 album it told us that we did not have the
right.
We have given up trying!!!

In frustration.....Anne and John SM319


RIB on cabintop

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

We have tried to post this pic but for reasons known only to Yahoo it
has gone into the album of pics entitled Aletes SM 240.We cannot find
out how to delete it from there and at any event when we were trying
to put it in the SM319 album it told us that we did not have the right.
We have given up trying!!!

In frustration.....Anne and John SM319


Re: dryer vented?

r.zurkirchen
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jrjrjrouse2000"
<sailingjudy@...> wrote:

We have a 2003 model Super Maramu 2000, built November 2002. We
strongly suspect that the clothes dryer is not vented correctly.
The
washing function works great, but the dryer leaves the
clothes "steamed" rather than dry. They get too hot to touch, but
still quite moist. Our only conclusion is that the dryer is not
vented correctly.

The manual onboard is simply a users manual, with no description
of
the installation process. Can anyone tell us how this dryer is
supposed to be vented?

Thanks in advance,

Judy & Bill Rouse
S/V Security,
SM2, #387
Hi, I have SM 407 of May 2003 and had last year the same problem.
Amel at Hyeres took the mahine out and got it repaired. It was a
little problem in the elecronics. Since then it works OK again.
Best regards
Rudy
SAMANTHA



Lightweight RIB

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy,
Sorry for my delay in replying but I have been away.
My dinghy is a Southern Pacific Shearwater 310 and it is great. It is
now five years old and looks like new despite the fact that it has
been exposed all that time to the strong Meditteranean sun.Another
plus point is that it has three airchambers which our previous AB did
not and it is therefore much less dangerous when, as happened to us in
the Tuamotus, a shark took a bite out of the fabric the size of my hand.
It is fitted with a Mercury 15hp motor with small hydrofoils on the
skeg and will do 24 knots with only my 100 kgs on board in flat water.
It also finally got up on the plane with three heavy adults and a lot
of shopping in choppy water.
It cost much less than any European RIBs when we bought it and if the
price has not gone up I would expect it to be competitive in price
even including air freight. The lightweight is great for lifting it
out onto deck. We will post a pic of it (in the SM319 album)deflated
on the aft cabin top,later today.
Their website is www.southernpacific.co.nz and their ph/fax no is or
was +64-9-4788075
On short passages with good forecasts it is carried on the Amel davits
which can be seen in the pic of my liferaft carrier in the Bali Hai
album. It is essential to lash it down firmly so that it is not thrown
around in a seaway. On very short passages we sometimes hoist the
dinghy and engine on the davits by using the passurelle halyard
clipped on to the davit at the engine end.On longer passages it is
carried inflated but inverted on top of the aft cabin because I am
mindful of the fact that no long time survival in a liferaft has been
recorded without a dinghy being used at the same time for stores etc.
I also recall the experience of an American family whose yacht was run
down at night in bad weather by a ship. The boy went down with the
boat but the couple and the young daughter found themselves in the sea
with their AB dinghy which popped up to the surface as the yacht
disintegrated.
Sadly the father and daughter perished but the mother survived after
the dinghy was blown ashore in NZ. It seems that the father went into
the water to save the daughter and then was unable to get back into
the dinghy. For this reason it is suggested that it is essential to
have a rope tied to the handles either side of the hull with one or
two knots in the scope so that a person in the water has something to
pull themself into the boat.
The ship was traced in Taiwan and in the subsequent case the widow
accepted undisclosed damages in an agreed settlement. It seems that
she was on watch alone when they were run down and she claimed that it
was her practice to go around the deck every 15 minutes to make sure
all was well! We were within 30 miles of them at the time and with
very strong winds and waves there is no way I would even think about
getting out of the cockpit. The other stupid thing that came up was
that they only used their radar when within 12 miles of the coast.
One of the perils of GPS is that people set a course on their
autopilot connecting two set points which are probably being used by
every other vessel thus ensuring maximum exposure to being rundown.

Sorry not to have replied earlier, Anne and John,SM319


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dryer vented?

amelforme
 

The dryer in the SM 2000 is not vented. Heat is created by
evaporation/condensation of fresh water. You will use 20
gallons of water to get your clothes warm but not dry.

The AMEL 54 has a vented dryer but the AMEL 53 does not.

Have fun with your boat.

Joel F. Potter
AMEL 54, Hull #14 "HOLLIS"

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Phone: 1 (954) 462-5869 Fax: 1 (954) 462-3923


dryer vented?

Judy Rouse
 

We have a 2003 model Super Maramu 2000, built November 2002. We
strongly suspect that the clothes dryer is not vented correctly. The
washing function works great, but the dryer leaves the
clothes "steamed" rather than dry. They get too hot to touch, but
still quite moist. Our only conclusion is that the dryer is not
vented correctly.

The manual onboard is simply a users manual, with no description of
the installation process. Can anyone tell us how this dryer is
supposed to be vented?

Thanks in advance,

Judy & Bill Rouse
S/V Security,
SM2, #387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Preparation for Worldtour

Steve Leeds
 

Hi,
Jimmy Cornell's "World Cruising Routes" would be high on my list. Obviously, you will need cruising guides and charts for every area you will visit. They will be easier to purchase in Europe, the US, Panama, New Zealand, Australia and South Africa. In other places they may be hard or impossible to find. Not so obviously, you will enjoy land tourist guides such as Lonely Planet for places you will visit and sometimes these are impossible to find in the places themselves.

We started using C-Map in Australia and found them to be very useful everywhere and very accurate in places where commercial shipping goes (not so accurate in out of the way places but useful nevertheless). We like it on our computer rather than in a chart plotter for faster refresh rates and ease of manipulation.

You must have backup charts for everyplace. We also find them to be more useful for planning purposes. We store them flat under unused beds. If you sleep on them for a while, they will start to mold.

Steve Leeds
Sharki #121
Circumnavigator's Yacht Service
Fort Lauderdale, Florida USA
circumnavigators@gmail.com
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Preparation for Worldtour

r.zurkirchen
 

Hi All,
Within the group are many who have toured the world.
I am preparing myself for this adventure, but I would appreciate if an
expert could answer me following questions:
1. What books (almanac or others) do I have to buy before starting? (
out of Med )
2. Are books for the following steps available on the way?
3. What charts for my Plotter ( C-Map ) shell I buy ?
4. Are charts available on the way ?
5. How to deal with paper charts?

For advises and suggestions, I will be thankful.
In order to not to fill the forum, you may contact me through my
homepage www.sam-yacht.ch
Rudy of SAMANTHA


Used SM 2000 year 2002-2004

rchrdthwaites <richard-thwaites@...>
 

Hi,
We have decided to join the Amel Family and buy a Super Maramu 2000
year 2002-2004.
Does anyone have one for sale or will be putting theirs up for sale in
the near future at a realistic price? We are based in Malta, please
contact me on richard-thwaites@tiscali.co.uk.
Best regards
Richard Thwaites


Re: SSB antennae and Ham licence

Roger Frederiks <rofred@...>
 

Vielen Dank Jochen, for your invaluable feedback. Yes, I'm aware that
the M802 is not type approved in the EU, but as I'll be registering my
boat outside the EU, hopefully that will not be a problem. Your
explanation on why the use of Ham frequencies is so useful is
precisely the reason why I intend to go for that too. Besides, from
what I've been able to gather so far, the maritime frequencies are
getting rather crowded, particularly by people using their Pactor
modems for email via SSB.
I have very little shortwave experience, having had to use SSB once
whilst crossing the North Atlantic by plane on a delivery trip. I
shall definitely do a Ham course here in the UK. Besides, it's another
2 years before I take delivery of my Amel 54!
Thanks for the antenna info. I'd forgotten about a separate one for
DSC. Amel have said they can do the whole installation, including a
high quality grounding system, and I'll probably go for that.
Viel spass

Roger


Re: SSB antennae and Ham licence

Jochen Hofmann <jochen@...>
 

HiRoger,

first of all I think the ICOM IC-M 802 is about the best of units you
can get these days, however, it might be illegal for a non-ham to fit
it - at least in germany it is not approved as a marine SSB (probably
because it is too easy to open it for the ham bands, and ICOM have
come out with a GMDSS equivalent of the 802 now that costs more but
cannot be opened to the ham bands).

In order to use the unit legally you will probably have to take a UK
ham license. Ham licenses are globally in a transition phase right now
since the ITU recommends to put away with Morse exams for SW ham
licenses. Some countries (like germany) have done so already in local
law, some others (like the U.S.) have not. I don't know the present
status in the UK. While the ham license (even without morse) is an
awful lot of learning, if you plan to go serious blue water cruising
it is definitely more than just worth the effort taking it. Just
consider all the cruisernets you'll find all over the world and the
invaluable weather information you can receive (and provide) in them.
Sailing ham associations like (www.)Intermar(-ev.de) really help you
stay connected to the world and keep your acquaintances ashore
up-to-date as far as your whereabouts and your well-being are
concerned. BTW, I myself only took my exam in lat 2004 and I am a
complete beginner.

On our Maramu #143 Blue Song we have installed an IC-M 802 and we are
using insulated backstays (one for TX/RX and one for DSC RX - yes
you'll need two antennas if you want to make use of the full DSC
capabilities of the unit).

You will find about as many people who'll tell you the whip is better
as you will find people saying the backstay is better. In the end it
probably all depends on the quality of the installation and IN THE
QUALITY OF THE GROUNDING (see the ICOM manual). We are happy with the
backstay so far, but we've only been cruising in the med so far - will
see what it's like on the long passages (hopefully) coming up for us
this winter and thereafter.

Fair winds

Jochen Hofmann, DM2JH, Maramu #143 Blue Song