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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 Battery Monitor

Peter Forbes
 

Tony,

How are you?

I have a printed version of the Xantex manual - I would be interested in a download too so if you get a link please tell me.

What are your plans and where are you? We plan to join the ARC in November then round the World from Jan 16 via Panama Canal. We have Amel 54 #035 - Carango.

I hope you haven't had any more engine problems, I had mine overhauled by Volvo in France last month and it seems to be going well.

Peter

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730

On 5 Sep 2015, at 10:16, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anybody know the precise model no. of the Xantrex battery monitor fitted as standard to the Amel 54 (no.102). I'm trying to download a user manual, and all I can find are the Link 10 and Link 20 model manuals. The label on the bottom of the rectangular display unit just says Battery Monitor, with the manufacturer, Xantrex, written in large letters at the top.

Thanks in advance.

Tony Robinson

Catriona R - Amel 54 #102


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 Battery Monitor

Peter Forbes
 

Tony,

I would be interested in downloading that too although I have the printed version.

How are you? Where are you? What are your plans?

We set off with Carango (Amel 54 #035) on the ARC in November and then from Jan 16 round the world through the Panama Canal.

I hope your engine is now OK - I had mine overhauled by Volvo last month in France.

Peter

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730

On 5 Sep 2015, at 10:16, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anybody know the precise model no. of the Xantrex battery monitor fitted as standard to the Amel 54 (no.102). I'm trying to download a user manual, and all I can find are the Link 10 and Link 20 model manuals. The label on the bottom of the rectangular display unit just says Battery Monitor, with the manufacturer, Xantrex, written in large letters at the top.

Thanks in advance.

Tony Robinson

Catriona R - Amel 54 #102


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Re: Amel 54 Battery Monitor

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Does anybody know the precise model no. of the Xantrex battery monitor fitted as standard to the Amel 54 (no.102). I'm trying to download a user manual, and all I can find are the Link 10 and Link 20 model manuals. The label on the bottom of the rectangular display unit just says Battery Monitor, with the manufacturer, Xantrex, written in large letters at the top.

Thanks in advance.

Tony Robinson

Catriona R - Amel 54 #102


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Gearbox

David Wallace
 

Tom, that’s very interesting because I have the same engine and definitely have a HBW 220 trans.  Air Ops is a 1982 model, just one year before yours.  I did a web search and can find nothing to say what the difference is between a 220 and a 250.  I did see, however, that there is a ZF Hurth major repair kit says it’s for both models so maybe they are essentially the same.  I would be definitely interested if anyone has the answer.

Regards from the Sea of Cortez! Aphrodite is a long way from Santa Cruz!

Dave
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Lying Puerto Escondido, BCS, Mx

On Sep 4, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Thomas Deasy onboardaphrodite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I have a Perkins 4-154 with a Hurth HBW-250-3R Thats what came with my Maramu,1983.
Thomas Deasy S/Y Aphrodite Fiji


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:09:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Gearbox

 
John,

I have that engine and the gearbox is a Hurth HBW-220.

Dave Wallace
s/v Air ops
Puerto Escondido, BCS, Mx

On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:15 AM, woodsdeborah_56@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Could I ask any Maramu owners with a Perkins 60hp engine (4154) what Hurth gearbox they have .....our documentation is very unclear 


Many Thanks 
John Fesel
Orion1






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Gearbox

amel46met
 

I have a Perkins 4-154 with a Hurth HBW-250-3R Thats what came with my Maramu,1983.
Thomas Deasy S/Y Aphrodite Fiji


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:09:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Gearbox

 
John,

I have that engine and the gearbox is a Hurth HBW-220.

Dave Wallace
s/v Air ops
Puerto Escondido, BCS, Mx

On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:15 AM, woodsdeborah_56@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Could I ask any Maramu owners with a Perkins 60hp engine (4154) what Hurth gearbox they have .....our documentation is very unclear 


Many Thanks 
John Fesel
Orion1




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling gearbox re-grease

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Alain, many thanks to remember me your post.
Unfortunately I have last AMEL gearbox_2003. Any way the procedure may be adapted.
About the grease leakage, I had the doubt if the grease is from gearbox or from the forestay.
If I well remember in a post, not recent (Olivier?), it was clear that it is from forestay. For this reason I asked Bill a support. To re-fill the forestay I'm planning the job for when I'll be near an Amel base (now I'm in Thailand).
For the gearbox ( SM 428_2003 ) I'm wondering if it is possible to check and to re-grease inside.
 I have the sketch of 2003 model but I don't understand (I'm not on board) if, cover removed, it is possible to do that without removing the engine.
Buon Vento
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA SM2K # 428
 




Il 04/09/2015 7.57, alainfeuillet@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 

Giovanni, have a look at the conversion "headsail furler" where I decribe that I had to maintain this gearbox; photos available also under same title;
After having retrofitted my gearbox I have no leaks of oil at all, although PILGRIM is under the greek sun since 3 years; so we could consider that oil leak is not a disater but is the signal for maintenance and seal change in particular.
Fair winds
Alain
PILGRM SM N°26



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

alainfeuillet@...
 

Giovanni, have a look at the conversion "headsail furler" where I decribe that I had to maintain this gearbox; photos available also under same title;
After having retrofitted my gearbox I have no leaks of oil at all, although PILGRIM is under the greek sun since 3 years; so we could consider that oil leak is not a disater but is the signal for maintenance and seal change in particular.
Fair winds
Alain
PILGRM SM N°26


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Giovanni TESTA
 

Yes, Bill, as I supposed. It is always useful the exchange experinces/ideas. For now it is dripping, so...
Thanks K
Buon Vento
Gianni

Il 03/09/2015 16.29, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 
Giani,

No I do not know, but believe it has to be dropped...which is the reason that many have not done it.

I assume that if it is dripping, there is still grease in there.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Giovanni Testa gtesta23@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ciao Bill,
do you know if it is possible to refill the forestay without removing it ? From the top? which grease?
Many thanks
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA SM 428

Il 03/09/2015 15.36, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 

Peter,

FORESTAY
The forestay grease is recommended every 5 years. Some people never do this. Chances are your SM has never been done.

FURLING GEARBOX
Regarding the gearbox, I recommend that you have a grease fitting added to the furling gearbox and that you add waterproof grease once a year.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 3, 2015 5:23 PM, "mausi@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

you exactly described how it is dropping out... Happy (more or less) to hear that in hot climates this happens and is normal. It will take lots of time until Iam in turkey. Does it make sense to refill from time to time? What would you use?

Thanks Bill,
Peter





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Gearbox

David Wallace
 

John,

I have that engine and the gearbox is a Hurth HBW-220.

Dave Wallace
s/v Air ops
Puerto Escondido, BCS, Mx

On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:15 AM, woodsdeborah_56@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Could I ask any Maramu owners with a Perkins 60hp engine (4154) what Hurth gearbox they have .....our documentation is very unclear 


Many Thanks 
John Fesel
Orion1



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Giani,

No I do not know, but believe it has to be dropped...which is the reason that many have not done it.

I assume that if it is dripping, there is still grease in there.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Giovanni Testa gtesta23@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ciao Bill,
do you know if it is possible to refill the forestay without removing it ? From the top? which grease?
Many thanks
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA SM 428

Il 03/09/2015 15.36, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 

Peter,

FORESTAY
The forestay grease is recommended every 5 years. Some people never do this. Chances are your SM has never been done.

FURLING GEARBOX
Regarding the gearbox, I recommend that you have a grease fitting added to the furling gearbox and that you add waterproof grease once a year.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 3, 2015 5:23 PM, "mausi@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

you exactly described how it is dropping out... Happy (more or less) to hear that in hot climates this happens and is normal. It will take lots of time until Iam in turkey. Does it make sense to refill from time to time? What would you use?

Thanks Bill,
Peter




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Giovanni TESTA
 

Ciao Bill,
do you know if it is possible to refill the forestay without removing it ? From the top? which grease?
Many thanks
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA SM 428

Il 03/09/2015 15.36, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] ha scritto:
 

Peter,

FORESTAY
The forestay grease is recommended every 5 years. Some people never do this. Chances are your SM has never been done.

FURLING GEARBOX
Regarding the gearbox, I recommend that you have a grease fitting added to the furling gearbox and that you add waterproof grease once a year.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 3, 2015 5:23 PM, "mausi@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

you exactly described how it is dropping out... Happy (more or less) to hear that in hot climates this happens and is normal. It will take lots of time until Iam in turkey. Does it make sense to refill from time to time? What would you use?

Thanks Bill,
Peter



Hurth Gearbox

woodsdeborah_56@...
 

Could I ask any Maramu owners with a Perkins 60hp engine (4154) what Hurth gearbox they have .....our documentation is very unclear 

Many Thanks 
John Fesel
Orion1


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Peter,

FORESTAY
The forestay grease is recommended every 5 years. Some people never do this. Chances are your SM has never been done.

FURLING GEARBOX
Regarding the gearbox, I recommend that you have a grease fitting added to the furling gearbox and that you add waterproof grease once a year.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 3, 2015 5:23 PM, "mausi@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

you exactly described how it is dropping out... Happy (more or less) to hear that in hot climates this happens and is normal. It will take lots of time until Iam in turkey. Does it make sense to refill from time to time? What would you use?

Thanks Bill,
Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Peter,

FORESTAY
The forestay grease is recommended every 5 years. Some people never do this. Chances are your SM has never been done.

FURLING GEARBOX
Regarding the gearbox, I recommend that you have a grease fitting added to the furling gearbox and that you add waterproof grease once a year.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 3, 2015 5:23 PM, "mausi@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

you exactly described how it is dropping out... Happy (more or less) to hear that in hot climates this happens and is normal. It will take lots of time until Iam in turkey. Does it make sense to refill from time to time? What would you use?

Thanks Bill,
Peter


Re: Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Peter
 

Bill,

you exactly described how it is dropping out... Happy (more or less) to hear that in hot climates this happens and is normal. It will take lots of time until Iam in turkey. Does it make sense to refill from time to time? What would you use?

Thanks Bill,
Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Peter,

If you have only had Super Maramu #41 for 6 months, you might consider asking the previous owner. The reason I asked where you were located, is because in warmer climates, when the grease on the forestay gets hot, it will sometimes drip out of the inside of the furller onto the deck near the furling gearbox. If that is the source, it is not a defect or a problem. 

Also, that is also why I asked how long you have owned this Super Maramu because I thought that possibly that you did not know about this. 

If you happen to go to Turkey, you will find the Amel Representative, Emek Marine, in Gocek, who will be able to inspect it and tell you what is happening. One thing that they can do is add a grease fitting to that furller gearbox so that you can add fresh grease to the gearbox. Contact Riza at Emek at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com. Emek has been very busy this summer doing a number of Super Maramu refits.

Bill
BeBe
387


On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:14 PM, mausi@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi bill,

This is no. 41, located in greece and i got it 6 months ago. I was wondering if the oil is not the right one. Maybe using grease in the gearbox. Its coming out on the forestay. 
Best
Peter



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa furling gearbox leaking

Peter
 

Hi bill,
This is no. 41, located in greece and i got it 6 months ago. I was wondering if the oil is not the right one. Maybe using grease in the gearbox. Its coming out on the forestay. 
Best
Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pipe for pushing seals into C-drive

Alan Leslie
 

Perfect Mike,'That gives me everything I need...
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pipe for pushing seals into C-drive

Alan Leslie
 

Yeah ..right

All I wanted to know is the size of the pipe !

BUT

Thanks mate, as always, for the technical info

All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pipe for pushing seals into C-drive

Mike Ondra
 

Alan,

More information:

The shaft lip seal is 45x65x8 mm.

2” schedule 40 PVC is 52mm I.D. and 60mm O.D. hence fits nicely over the shaft and inside the housing while providing good contact with the lip seal.

Mike

Aletes SM#240

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pipe for pushing seals into C-drive

 

 

Alan,

 

Schedule 40 is mostly an American term. It means thicker-walled PVC...or technically it means: "Based on the NPS (North American set of standard sizes for pipes) and schedule (North American dimensional number for wall thickness) of a pipe, the pipe outside diameter (OD) and wall thickness can be obtained from reference tables which are based on ASME standards B36.10M and B36.19M. For example, NPS 14 Sch 40 has an OD of 14 inches and a wall thickness of 0.437 inches."

 

I bet that is more than you wanted to know.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Mike,'

What does "Schedule 40" mean in terms of specification ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437