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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive and double lip seals

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Be careful. 

Even though double lip sounds like double the sealing, it is not

On a double lip seal only one lip of a double lip is the fluid sealing lip...and grease is required between the lips. The other lip of a double lip seal is to keep solid contaminants out of the sealed area.

Don't try to reinvent what Amel has done...if you do, chances are that you may regret it.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:33 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The 45x65x8 lip seal for the wear bushing from Amel with a stainless steel spring is 6 euro, which would be about $6.75USD. If you are ordering anything from Amel, order these and since they weigh almost nothing they will deliver free.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:12 PM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Eric,

Good point. I checked into this and indeed the ones we have been using do not have the stainless springs. That being said, they have worked flawlessly for the past 8 years without leaking between changes. I did check with Motion Industries. SKF does make 45x65x8 seals with stainless garter springs selling for $14.26. Also double lip configuration for $15.69 (interesting). As I had mentioned before, the carbon steel spring version is $6.35 by comparison. Google on SKF HMS5 lipseal to learn more than you need to know.

Mike

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive seal price



Mike do the seals have stainless steel springs?

Eric

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Should have changed the subject line on the previous posting.

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Motion Industries in the USA has the c-drive lip-seals 45x65x8 for $6.35.

Mike

S/V Aletes SM#240

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

They sold me the prop shaft seals for $12 each with stainless springs about 6 years ago. That is a ripoff.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy



On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.

Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?

Vladimir

S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.

On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.

Good Luck,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Hi Pat,

Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.

Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916
S/V Life is Good
SM #345

On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly) anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans # 123

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM

Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259,

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive seal price

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The 45x65x8 lip seal for the wear bushing from Amel with a stainless steel spring is 6 euro, which would be about $6.75USD. If you are ordering anything from Amel, order these and since they weigh almost nothing they will deliver free.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:12 PM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Eric,

Good point. I checked into this and indeed the ones we have been using do not have the stainless springs. That being said, they have worked flawlessly for the past 8 years without leaking between changes. I did check with Motion Industries. SKF does make 45x65x8 seals with stainless garter springs selling for $14.26. Also double lip configuration for $15.69 (interesting). As I had mentioned before, the carbon steel spring version is $6.35 by comparison. Google on SKF HMS5 lipseal to learn more than you need to know.

Mike

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive seal price



Mike do the seals have stainless steel springs?

Eric

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Should have changed the subject line on the previous posting.

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Motion Industries in the USA has the c-drive lip-seals 45x65x8 for $6.35.

Mike

S/V Aletes SM#240

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

They sold me the prop shaft seals for $12 each with stainless springs about 6 years ago. That is a ripoff.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy



On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.

Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?

Vladimir

S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.

On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.

Good Luck,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Hi Pat,

Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.

Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916 <tel:202%20258%201916>
S/V Life is Good
SM #345

On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly) anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans # 123

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM

Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259,

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive seal price

Mike Ondra
 

Eric,

Good point. I checked into this and indeed the ones we have been using do not have the stainless springs. That being said, they have worked flawlessly for the past 8 years without leaking between changes. I did check with Motion Industries. SKF does make 45x65x8 seals with stainless garter springs selling for $14.26. Also double lip configuration for $15.69 (interesting). As I had mentioned before, the carbon steel spring version is $6.35 by comparison. Google on SKF HMS5 lipseal to learn more than you need to know.

Mike



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive seal price





Mike do the seals have stainless steel springs?

Eric





On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 07:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@verizon.net [amelyachtowners] wrote:







Should have changed the subject line on the previous posting.



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker





Motion Industries in the USA has the c-drive lip-seals 45x65x8 for $6.35.

Mike

S/V Aletes SM#240

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

They sold me the prop shaft seals for $12 each with stainless springs about 6 years ago. That is a ripoff.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy
On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.

Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?

Vladimir

S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.

On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.

Good Luck,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Hi Pat,

Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.

Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916 <tel:202%20258%201916>
S/V Life is Good
SM #345

On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly) anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans # 123

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM

Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259,

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water lines

Eric Freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] c-drive seal price

Eric Freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

reid white <reidwhite@...>
 

Pat: Amel did not install the w/maker. Owner installed a 12v Katadyn and I would prefer a 4' commercial membrane which is the standard available worldwide. There is no generator. If your unit requires 220v for the pressure pump then our setup is not a good fit. Thank you /Reid




On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 5:30 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Reid, What w/maker do you have now and how is it powered? Do you have a generator with 220v supply ?
Pat SM#123
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: reid white reidwhite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

 
We have a Sharki with a failed water maker. The previous owner installed it so that when it leaked, which it did, it did so on the motor. The issue would be how large a unit we could fit. We need new membranes etc in any case.  
Currently we are on the hard in Indiantown Marina Florida returning to it this fall for winter cruising. 
/Reid & Rheta 





On Monday, September 28, 2015 7:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing  that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly)  anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.
 
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans # 123
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

 
Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM


 









Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259, 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan 6.5 kilowatt raw water pump rebuild

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

Good for you.

I am glad it worked out...funny how that NOS increases in value as it sits on a shelf.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 4:05 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes, you are correct, I made a typo. The water pump I need is 0132-0277. The part prices are out of date on the website. Current prices are 429.69 for the pump. Pump will be overnight-ed and the current rebuild kit I have will be used on the old pump if I can figure it out or as spare parts.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan 6.5 kilowatt raw water pump rebuild

william_maffei@...
 

Yes, you are correct, I made a typo. The water pump I need is 0132-0277. The part prices are out of date on the website. Current prices are 429.69 for the pump. Pump will be overnight-ed and the current rebuild kit I have will be used on the old pump if I can figure it out or as spare parts.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water lines

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

OK, John.

I have not been on board a SM as early as yours...things changed through the model years. Facing the dining table the A/C is under the left rear corner seat. And since we have the 2 freezer option, we have a freezer under each side outside seat cushions.

Good luck, but look for water in every compartment between the bulkhead on the aft side of the forward head to the bulkhead for the engine room...open up everything.

You might try a trick I used once to find a hidden leak. Disconnect the output line of the water pump and shoot some compressed air (not too much pressure) into the line while someone with good ears listens for escaping air in the salon area. There will initially be some water escaping because there will be water in the line.

Bill
BeBe 387
Gibraltar for 2 weeks, then Canary Islands

Bill

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:42 PM, jsrogers@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill for your immediate response, which suggested to me that I am most likely looking for the where the hose connects to the copper line going to the aft shower as the source of the leak.  The forward bench of the salon table contains the AC unit whereas the aft bench has a freezer.  The corner plywood seat is screwed down but I will attempt to remove it as see what's there later today. Thanks again for your help all the way from Gibraltar!

John,
SM#105 It's Good



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water lines

jsrogers@...
 

Thank you Bill for your immediate response, which suggested to me that I am most likely looking for the where the hose connects to the copper line going to the aft shower as the source of the leak.  The forward bench of the salon table contains the AC unit whereas the aft bench has a freezer.  The corner plywood seat is screwed down but I will attempt to remove it as see what's there later today. Thanks again for your help all the way from Gibraltar!

John,
SM#105 It's Good


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan 6.5 kilowatt raw water pump rebuild

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

Check your pump number again. I think it is 0132-0277.

If so, a google search shows that pump available for $368 and the 0132-0281 repair kit available for $204: http://www.dieselpartusa.com/onanpartslist.php?start=17681&PHPSESSID=0567fee111982260e70c4f0e38afee5a

There may be other sources...I just checked the first one.

Bill
BeBe

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:31 PM, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The pump I have is part 123-0277, the "overhaul" kit was part 0132-0281. included are some pictures (Check photos). The problem is the schematic I have (provided by onan) which is the worst representation of what I have pulled out. I know I have read some things about replacement pumps made by various aftermarket distributors. Can anyone chime in on this? Might be forced to rebuild and order the $600.00 replacement form Onan.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan 6.5 kilowatt raw water pump rebuild

william_maffei@...
 

The pump I have is part 123-0277, the "overhaul" kit was part 0132-0281. included are some pictures (Check photos). The problem is the schematic I have (provided by onan) which is the worst representation of what I have pulled out. I know I have read some things about replacement pumps made by various aftermarket distributors. Can anyone chime in on this? Might be forced to rebuild and order the $600.00 replacement form Onan.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Patrick McAneny
 

Reid, What w/maker do you have now and how is it powered? Do you have a generator with 220v supply ?
Pat SM#123
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: reid white reidwhite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

 
We have a Sharki with a failed water maker. The previous owner installed it so that when it leaked, which it did, it did so on the motor. The issue would be how large a unit we could fit. We need new membranes etc in any case.  
Currently we are on the hard in Indiantown Marina Florida returning to it this fall for winter cruising. 
/Reid & Rheta 





On Monday, September 28, 2015 7:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing  that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly)  anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.
 
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans # 123
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

 
Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM


 









Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259, 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Desalator D60

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, Do you own a Amel ? If so what model and power source is your watermaker ? I want to give it someone that needs it or could use it for parts .There was a few different models and they are not interchangeable as to parts. Being in Annapolis is good, as I don't need the hassle of shipping.
Pat SM #123
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2015 2:54 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Desalator D60

 
Pat.  I will be in Annapolis this weekend.  I would love to grab it if you haven't promised it to anybody

eric

317-439-6492


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Patrick McAneny
 

Vladimir, This watermaker would have no parts that you could use on your new Amel. The price you were quoted was indeed a rip off. The seals should not be much more than $10 and perhaps less.
Pat SM#123
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2015 1:42 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

 
I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they  made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.
Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?
Vladimir
S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.
On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.
Good Luck,
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

 
Hi Pat,
Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.
Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916
S/V Life is Good
SM #345
On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing  that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly)  anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.
 
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans # 123
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

 
Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM


 









Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259, 









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c-drive seal price

Mike Ondra
 

Should have changed the subject line on the previous posting.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

 

 

Motion Industries in the USA has the c-drive lip-seals 45x65x8 for $6.35.

Mike

S/V Aletes SM#240

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

They sold me the prop shaft seals for $12 each with stainless springs about 6 years ago. That is a ripoff.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy



On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.

Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?

Vladimir

S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.

On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.

Good Luck,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Hi Pat,

Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.

Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916 <tel:202%20258%201916>
S/V Life is Good
SM #345

On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly) anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans # 123

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM

Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259,

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fresh water lines

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

John,

I cannot be much help because I have never done any water line plumbing on an Amel. On SM 387, there is a pair of copper water lines that are behind the back cushion on the dining table seating. If you are facing the dining table, remove the back cushion on the right side...you should see the lines that go to the shower control. Do you have a freezer under that seat cushion? Or, is it an open compartment?

On SM 387, the seats and backs are secured by Velcro and the seat plywood panel under the cushion and over the A/C is removable.

The water is going to migrate to all of the floor compartments in the saloon area and because your boat has watertight bulkheads, you are going to have to open all of these compartments between the engine room bulkhead and the bulkhead on the aft side of the forward head. You will need a pump to pump out the water and probably a wet/vac to complete the drying out.

I wish I could help you more, but that exhausted what I can tell you.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Gibraltar


On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:07 AM, jsrogers@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Last winter was the first time for me leaving the boat on the hard.  Evidently the fresh water line running between the pressure pump and the forward head has bursts or has a broken fitting. I see water flowing from under the forward, port corner of the salon settee toward the AC unit!  It also seems that I must access this cavity by removing the back of the settee or the seat. Does any know which would be the best or easiest approach to access the water lines in this area?

John Rogers
SM #105
Its Good
Deltaville, VA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Kent,

Do you have part numbers for all the shaft seals that are used on the boat.

On Sep 29, 2015 6:43 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

They sold me the prop shaft seals for $12 each with stainless springs about 6 years ago.  That is a ripoff.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they  made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.

Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?

Vladimir

S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.

On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.
Good Luck,
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

 
Hi Pat,
Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.
Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916
S/V Life is Good
SM #345
On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing  that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly)  anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.
 
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans # 123
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60

 
Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM


 









Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259, 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker

Mike Ondra
 

Motion Industries in the USA has the c-drive lip-seals 45x65x8 for $6.35.

Mike

S/V Aletes SM#240





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker





They sold me the prop shaft seals for $12 each with stainless springs about 6 years ago. That is a ripoff.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy
On Sep 28, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



I planned to use it on my Amel. I did not know that the water makers are of the different capacity.
Are they made by the same manufacturer? It it is so then some parts are similar.

Carolina Seals offered me a seal for C-drive prop shaft for $55.00 each. I believe that this is a ripoff. How much did you pay for those seals?

Vladimir

S/V Life is Good
SM # 345.

On Sep 28, 2015 7:44 PM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Vladimir, Are you talking about your Passport or your new Amel? Assuming its your Amel, it would probably have a 160 lt. w/maker and this one is only a 60lt. , thus the parts would not be compatible. If I am mistaken, and you can use it , let me know. We enjoyed your visit ,drop a hook next time you are passing by, next time it will be in your Amel. We may see you guys at the show.

Good Luck,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans





-----Original Message-----
From: Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Free watermaker



Hi Pat,

Watermaker is not operational on my boat. I can come and take your watermaker for parts.
Thanks again for your and Diane hospitality. It was a pleasure to see you.

Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916 <tel:202%20258%201916>
S/V Life is Good
SM #345

On Sep 28, 2015 10:21 AM, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



I replaced my watermaker a few years ago and have my old one in my basement . I do not need it and I am willing to give it to someone that does. I am looking for someone that does not want it because its free , but needs it and can use it. It was never used by me as I was in fresh water , but I have no reason to believe it would not be in good condition, the only thing that it needs is a new glass vial that measures water flow, it broke from freezing . It is a 60L 220V., includes the panel showing about 240 hrs., membranes ( would need replacing) large Lesson motor connected via fan belt to high pressure pump , hoses , filter , complete system. I would be willing to ship it (at your cost, very heavy so costly) anywhere, USA. or could be picked up on the Sassafras River 40 miles north of Annapolis or few miles from the C&D canal for those heading south from New England.



Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans # 123





-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2015 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60



Good morning Paul,

We have the same:
http://nikimat.com/water_maker_duo_d60.html
I speak French, but from memory the owner manual didn’t say much.

I am very new at using my water maker, had it completely serviced earlier this year since it had not been used since I purchase my vessel in 2012.
I had put: new membrane, new high pressure switch. I wanted to change the high pressure hose, but service person said they were still good, which was a mistake as one blew up not too long ago and luckily only damaged my inverter…

Hopefully you can get additional feed back from others.
If you don’t know when your water maker was last used, at least change the membrane and the high pressure hoses.

To operate it, it is easy (just used it for 5 hours 2 days ago crossing to Nassau)
Prior to using: make sure the through hull valve is open, the filter is clean, etc.

in 24 volt mode: turn the switch to the left (24 Volt)
At first you will see an orange light. The water maker will be discarding bad water to the same hose as the bilge pump.
After a little while the green light will appear.
Make sure to adjust the knob to remain in the green arc.
The little bubble will show you how many litters per hour you are making.
From the little faucet you can use a PPM meter and see how many particule you have.
With a new membrane I have 10…
I forgot at what number you should be changing the Membrane (I am sure Bill or someone will give the number).

in 220 Volt mode:
Note: this is 220 Volt 50 Hz. So depending where you are located, make sure it is 50 HZ. The US, Bahamas, etc. provide 60 HZ so you would have to run your generator in order to get 50 HZ.
Turn swtich to the right (220 Volt) and the same as above.

I monitor with the water floating stick that I am making water.

On my side I preferred to hire a professional to check the high pressure switch and the quality sensor.
Don’t forget to change the high pressure hoses if you don’t know the last time they were changed.
A failure of these can cost you several thousands of dollars in damages… many people lost their batteries charger…

You should use it, at least once a week for a few minutes (to keep the membrane wet).
If you are in a marina, you can “rinse” it. There is a valve before the filter that you can move.
Now, instead of sea water it receive fresh water from your tank.
BUT, you can not use water with chlorine, otherwise will destroy the membrane.
Personally I have install a charbon filter to remove the chlorine when I flush it.

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Atlantis Marina, Nassau, Bahamas.

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/28/15, osterberg.paul.l@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Desalator D60
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 28, 2015, 7:45 AM












Hello!I have
Dessalator D60 aboard, unfortunately the only manual I have
is in French, so do not know exactly how to run or service
the water maker, I have tried to search the forum but not
find the manual, would appreciate very much if someone
upload or mail the manual to me sykerpa at gmail dot
comPaul on S/Y Kerpa SM
#259,









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan 6.5 kilowatt raw water pump rebuild

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Do you have pump 132-0459 old# 132-0358 and rebuild kit 0541-1520/old#
0132-0380?

You might want to consider this because the normal price is over $400 for
that pump:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sherwood-Pump-G702-PUMP-ONAN-132-0358-/181829717172?hash=item2a55e54cb4&vxp=mtr

I have the above pump and a spare pump. I also have the rebuild kit, but
have never rebuilt the pump. I believe the kit includes a bearing, a
mechanical seal and a few other pieces.
I think that there is a circlip[image: Inline image 2] that has to be
removed to take things apart.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Gibraltar

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:52 AM, william_maffei@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Anyone have the rebuild instructions for a Onan 6.5 model MDKD? I have
ordered the rebuild kit and there is no re-assembly instructions to go
along with it. The old parts were in such bad shape that it is hard to tell
the order that they came out in to replace with the new parts. The
schematic that I have on hand is not clear and none of the parts look
familiar. Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks,


Bill M

SM #195

It's all Good