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Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Thanks Drew and Eric.  When I get back to Brava in November I will see if I can find these two switches.  I did not know there was a masthead strobe light!  My ignition cutout is in a different place, so maybe these switches are also set up in different places?  

Fair winds,

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua


Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting

Gaffney, Drew <drew.gaffney@...>
 

On our boat, there is a single toggle switch on the starboard side of the space above the galley. It's very near the "ignition interrupt". The masthead strobe light toggle switch is also there.
Drew
SY Revelation SM#390


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Predict wind program

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Eric,

We installed both the iridium Go, and started using Predict Wind wind a few months on Aloha. We have the unlimited data plan for $125.00/month, and Predict Wind is about $16/mo when you pay for a year in advance. For that price, I can run weather routes all day long if I want. When the internet is available, I get the data off the web, and when not, we use the Iridium Go. We have the Go mounted at the nav station, and the external antenna is on the aft starboard rail with an 18" stainless extension to give it a clear view of the sky. We ran the antenna cable through the same chase all the SSB wire runs through. It was an easy couple of hour install for us. 

Just so everyone is clear about what Predict wind does, it runs very detailed routes using 4 different models in this part of the world. On a recent offshore trip from St Augustine, FL to the Chesapeake, we had our first good opportunity to evaluate its usefulness, and we were impressed. The routes include waypoints, wind, wave, and current info, and you can update the route every 12 hours. Also, you have the ability to export the route into what ever navigation software you have. In our case, we export to Open CPN and INavX on the Ipad. As with any weather models, if they all diverge greatly, you have some issues with the forecast. If they are all fairly close, you should have a Higher confidence level in the forecast. Another feature of the routing tool is the ability to specify wind and sea state you would like to avoid, and it will route you clear of the 40 knots of wind and 20 foots seas that you would prefer not to encounter. It also has the ability to run departure plans for a 4 day window, which is intended to help you evaluate when best to leave on your trip. Another nifty feature on the App is the ability to download the iridium satellite constellation, and see them in reference to your current position in order have a higher chance of a good connection of your first attempt. 

With regards to the Iridium Go, we were pleased with its performance. We have never had an Iridium phone, so have no basis for comparison. We did install the external antenna, and I think that is the key to good reception. On the trip From St Augustine, we only had to attempt to get our data twice on one occasion. Normally, the entire route was downloaded in about 2 to 3 minutes, and unlike the SSB, it uses almost no battery power in the process. With the unlimited data plan, you are able to get email and text as much as you like. FYI...the latest version of sail mail works with the GO, and we found it worked very well. When we purchase our data plan a few months ago, it came with 5 minutes a month of free voice time. They changed the package last month to include 150 minutes a month of free voice time. The GO creates a wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices, and you use you Iphone or Android as a satphone. Since we sheared our coupling on the last trip, I used about 30 minutes of voice time talking to boatyards while well off shore. We had clear connections, and one dropped call, which we were able to redial right away. Our experience with the GO is faster and easier connections than the SSB, and it will do things the SSB will not. 

Mark is correct in that everyone gets weather data from the same sources, and those sources are free. The difference is in the analysis, and Predict Wind is an excellent analytical tool for about the cost of a couple of trips to Starbucks a month. With as much money as we all spend on keeping our boats going, why would you not spend this small amount for an added level of safety. I've earned my living as a pilot for over 40 years, have a better understanding of weather than most, but weather forecasting is still not my day job, and the Predict Wind folks do it better than I can. Okay, I admit it, I need all the help I can get!

I hope sharing our experiences with the Go and PW have answered your questions. We think that for the minimal cost, it is well worth it, and it adds another valuable tool to your collection. 

 Regards,
Steve and Liz
Aloha SM72
Currently in Annapolis, MD



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING

karkauai
 

Thanks Eric


On Oct 3, 2015, at 1:11 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I never heard anything until the motor on the starboard winch motor was broken open and the armature came out of the motor. It woke me up. The ¼ inch studs that hold the motor together were also sheared off.

We sailed home from St Maarten this spring and I heard nothing from the port winch. I guess the winch makes so much noise the sound is not heard.

Please let me know if you need for me to send you bolts.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 9:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING

 

 

Sounds like a disaster about to happen!  I don't guess you could hear a thump when the motor was engaged?  I'll check mine in the morning and report if I see any problems.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Waiting out the weather in the Sassafrass River by Shenanigans (Pat and Diane)


On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:00 PM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

   .I meant to say 175,000 pound breaking strength.

I had to buy  18 so if anyone in the USA needs 5 please let me know.

Eric

 

 

 


I was in my port cockpit locker yesterday starting to install an Espar heater. I thought I would check the Port electric winch to see if it had the same problem as my starboard winch had earlier this year.

 

I held the motor and it turned, I then had my friend activate the winch and the whole motor assembly slammed into the coaming. This is definitely a problem.

 

I removed the motor and mounting flange and sure enough all allen head cap screws were either broken off  or not connected to the base of the winch. They are part number 15 in the attached link.

 

Amel obviously did not use a thread locker on my winches.

They also used plain steel screws instead hardened ones. The hardened ones are black in color and have a braking strength of 175,000 pounds.

 

I would strongly suggest anyone with electric winches look at the drive motors and see if they move when activated. The port winch will be easy to reassemble but the starboard one was very difficult .

Fair winds

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

http://www.p2marine.com/sailing-gear/lewmar/lewmar-winch-parts-48est.shtml

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element

amelforme
 

It is a FRIGOBOAT unit made by parent company VECO in Italy. Search the web for a local source as they are well represented world wide. I sold that boat to John and Vicky when it was new and glad it is still being enjoyed. 
Good luck with the repair. Joel


On Oct 3, 2015, at 6:45 AM, gashman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

I got a bit carried away de-icing one of my chest freezers and stupidly punctured the white box shaped cooling element sending freeon into my face.
Ive had no luck finding a replacement so my question is does anybody know what company produced the parts or is there a replacement cooling elements that will fit the system?
Happy Sailing

Regards Mawgan Grace
S/V Jovic SM #310
Hong Kong


Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element

Mawgan grace
 

Hi all,

I got a bit carried away de-icing one of my chest freezers and stupidly punctured the white box shaped cooling element sending freeon into my face.
Ive had no luck finding a replacement so my question is does anybody know what company produced the parts or is there a replacement cooling elements that will fit the system?
Happy Sailing

Regards Mawgan Grace
S/V Jovic SM #310
Hong Kong


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Santorin overview

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian 'Ocean Hobo' SN96,

Yes, absolutely. 

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ian parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Elm
We had a tour of the Amel factory in La Rochelle last year and saw the hulls being constructed on the 55. They told me it is the same way that my Santorin was built. Confirm the deck to hull bonding is the strongest I have ever seen.
The ketch has a manual system for the mizzen sail using a winch handle. The sloop obviously just has the two electric motors on main and Genoa, so totally electric. On the other hand the ketch has the addition of the lovely mizzen staysail which is simple to set and retrieve and a joy to use. So it's really a choice of ketch or sloop - but I have never sailed the sloop version.

Biggest disadvantage of owning an Amel? The time it takes me on a daily basis to read all these Amel posts!! But I have learnt so much from them that I am a much wiser boat owner and avoided many pitfalls and issues on owning the best make of boat at the price on the market. I haven't met any Amel owner from the Med to the Caribbean who would only replace their boat with another Amel.

Keep up the investigation and hope you locate the boat you want.

Ian

'Ocean Hobo' SN96



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

Ian Park
 

I had a bad leak in my lazarette (Santorin). Thought it was the plug so swapped it for the plug in the Liferaft locker which is identical. Then located actual leak! Solved by tightening the bolts holding the stern bumper in place! Dry as a bone since then.

Ian


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Santorin overview

Ian Park
 

Elm
We had a tour of the Amel factory in La Rochelle last year and saw the hulls being constructed on the 55. They told me it is the same way that my Santorin was built. Confirm the deck to hull bonding is the strongest I have ever seen.
The ketch has a manual system for the mizzen sail using a winch handle. The sloop obviously just has the two electric motors on main and Genoa, so totally electric. On the other hand the ketch has the addition of the lovely mizzen staysail which is simple to set and retrieve and a joy to use. So it's really a choice of ketch or sloop - but I have never sailed the sloop version.

Biggest disadvantage of owning an Amel? The time it takes me on a daily basis to read all these Amel posts!! But I have learnt so much from them that I am a much wiser boat owner and avoided many pitfalls and issues on owning the best make of boat at the price on the market. I haven't met any Amel owner from the Med to the Caribbean who would only replace their boat with another Amel.

Keep up the investigation and hope you locate the boat you want.

Ian

'Ocean Hobo' SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Switch for Floor-level Lighting

Eric Freedman
 

Take a look to the starboard side of the autopilot computer above the sink. On Kimberlite there are 2 white electrical boxes. One turns on the Red LED floor lighting and the other turns on my masthead strobe.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 10:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Switch for Floor-level Lighting

 

 

Hi all,

 

Brava (SM2K #400) appears to have come equipped with floor-level lighting in each of the cabins. I am not sure this was a standard feature, or an 'extra'. 

 

I presume it is red lighting to allow one to find your way below-decks without stubbing your toe, or ruining your night vision by turning on white lights.  Does anyone know how these lights are turned on?  Is it the same switch on the 24 volt panel as the rheostat that controls the compass light?



The previous owner changed a few things in the 24V panel, so any hints as to how these lights are supposed to be connected would be greatly appreciated.



Derick Gates

 

SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: fresh water lines

Eric Freedman
 

If there is copper pipe in the galley and pipe going through the bulkhead at the head I assume the entire run is copper pipe.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 10:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: fresh water lines

 

 

I have pumped the water from any compartment where it was found, only on the port side.  My freezer in aft of the salon table and the AC unit is forward.  If the bulkhead, aft of the forward shower, is indeed water tight then the water leak must be in the salon port side, but I have not found it yet.  Viewing the salon table facing to the port side, the right corner plywood seat is fixed and not removable so I guess I am going to have to cut it.  Thanks Eric for telling  me about your construction photo, but I am looking more in the salon area. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

Eric Freedman
 

I believe it is the same thread as in the anchor locker. In the anchor I used a regular plumbing NPT plug.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 10:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

 

 

Colin,

 

By the time SM2K #400 was built, the plug in the lazarette was still a screw-in,  I find it very difficult to unscrew, or screw in.  I have intended to look for a replacement plug, because the tab you can grab using locking pliers looks like it will not last much longer.

 

Derick

 

SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING

Eric Freedman
 

Kent,

I never heard anything until the motor on the starboard winch motor was broken open and the armature came out of the motor. It woke me up. The ¼ inch studs that hold the motor together were also sheared off.

We sailed home from St Maarten this spring and I heard nothing from the port winch. I guess the winch makes so much noise the sound is not heard.

Please let me know if you need for me to send you bolts.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 9:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING

 

 

Sounds like a disaster about to happen!  I don't guess you could hear a thump when the motor was engaged?  I'll check mine in the morning and report if I see any problems.

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Waiting out the weather in the Sassafrass River by Shenanigans (Pat and Diane)


On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:00 PM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

   .I meant to say 175,000 pound breaking strength.

I had to buy  18 so if anyone in the USA needs 5 please let me know.

Eric

 

 

 


I was in my port cockpit locker yesterday starting to install an Espar heater. I thought I would check the Port electric winch to see if it had the same problem as my starboard winch had earlier this year.

 

I held the motor and it turned, I then had my friend activate the winch and the whole motor assembly slammed into the coaming. This is definitely a problem.

 

I removed the motor and mounting flange and sure enough all allen head cap screws were either broken off  or not connected to the base of the winch. They are part number 15 in the attached link.

 

Amel obviously did not use a thread locker on my winches.

They also used plain steel screws instead hardened ones. The hardened ones are black in color and have a braking strength of 175,000 pounds.

 

I would strongly suggest anyone with electric winches look at the drive motors and see if they move when activated. The port winch will be easy to reassemble but the starboard one was very difficult .

Fair winds

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

http://www.p2marine.com/sailing-gear/lewmar/lewmar-winch-parts-48est.shtml

 


Switch for Floor-level Lighting

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Hi all,


Brava (SM2K #400) appears to have come equipped with floor-level lighting in each of the cabins. I am not sure this was a standard feature, or an 'extra'. 


I presume it is red lighting to allow one to find your way below-decks without stubbing your toe, or ruining your night vision by turning on white lights.  Does anyone know how these lights are turned on?  Is it the same switch on the 24 volt panel as the rheostat that controls the compass light?


The previous owner changed a few things in the 24V panel, so any hints as to how these lights are supposed to be connected would be greatly appreciated.


Derick Gates

 

SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Thanks Derick
That's clear then that they did not change from a screw in system throughout the SM range.
Cheers
Colin - SM#332


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 12:25 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,


By the time SM2K #400 was built, the plug in the lazarette was still a screw-in,  I find it very difficult to unscrew, or screw in.  I have intended to look for a replacement plug, because the tab you can grab using locking pliers looks like it will not last much longer.

Derick

SM2K#400 Brava




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: fresh water lines

jsrogers@...
 

I have pumped the water from any compartment where it was found, only on the port side.  My freezer in aft of the salon table and the AC unit is forward.  If the bulkhead, aft of the forward shower, is indeed water tight then the water leak must be in the salon port side, but I have not found it yet.  Viewing the salon table facing to the port side, the right corner plywood seat is fixed and not removable so I guess I am going to have to cut it.  Thanks Eric for telling  me about your construction photo, but I am looking more in the salon area. 


Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Colin,

By the time SM2K #400 was built, the plug in the lazarette was still a screw-in,  I find it very difficult to unscrew, or screw in.  I have intended to look for a replacement plug, because the tab you can grab using locking pliers looks like it will not last much longer.

Derick

SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Santorin overview

karkauai
 

Hi Elm,
I own a SuperMaramu, but my understanding is that all Amels are solid fiberglass hulls, monocoque construction with deck glassed to hull.   Cabin tops are balsa core but with some added features that make them stronger and less likely to wick moisture that gets into the core.  I think it was either Joel or Olivier (our Amel guys that know everything there is to know) who posted something about this in the Conversations within the last several months.  You may be able to find that post by doing a search for it.
Kent


On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, elmbrook@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you everyone for taking time to respond ti my questions.  Can someone tell me how the Amel hull were constructed (solid core/foam core etc.)?  I'd also be interested in everyone's and anyone's views on the Santorin ketch versus Santorin sloop.  How well Does each sail.  How many sloops were built?  Thanks

Elm


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING

karkauai
 

Sounds like a disaster about to happen!  I don't guess you could hear a thump when the motor was engaged?  I'll check mine in the morning and report if I see any problems.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Waiting out the weather in the Sassafrass River by Shenanigans (Pat and Diane)


On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:00 PM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

   .I meant to say 175,000 pound breaking strength.
I had to buy  18 so if anyone in the USA needs 5 please let me know.
Eric
 
 
 


I was in my port cockpit locker yesterday starting to install an Espar heater. I thought I would check the Port electric winch to see if it had the same problem as my starboard winch had earlier this year.

 

I held the motor and it turned, I then had my friend activate the winch and the whole motor assembly slammed into the coaming. This is definitely a problem.

 

I removed the motor and mounting flange and sure enough all allen head cap screws were either broken off  or not connected to the base of the winch. They are part number 15 in the attached link.

 

Amel obviously did not use a thread locker on my winches.

They also used plain steel screws instead hardened ones. The hardened ones are black in color and have a braking strength of 175,000 pounds.

 

I would strongly suggest anyone with electric winches look at the drive motors and see if they move when activated. The port winch will be easy to reassemble but the starboard one was very difficult .

Fair winds

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

http://www.p2marine.com/sailing-gear/lewmar/lewmar-winch-parts-48est.shtml