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Switch for Floor-level Lighting

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Hi all,


Brava (SM2K #400) appears to have come equipped with floor-level lighting in each of the cabins. I am not sure this was a standard feature, or an 'extra'. 


I presume it is red lighting to allow one to find your way below-decks without stubbing your toe, or ruining your night vision by turning on white lights.  Does anyone know how these lights are turned on?  Is it the same switch on the 24 volt panel as the rheostat that controls the compass light?


The previous owner changed a few things in the 24V panel, so any hints as to how these lights are supposed to be connected would be greatly appreciated.


Derick Gates

 

SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Thanks Derick
That's clear then that they did not change from a screw in system throughout the SM range.
Cheers
Colin - SM#332


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 12:25 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,


By the time SM2K #400 was built, the plug in the lazarette was still a screw-in,  I find it very difficult to unscrew, or screw in.  I have intended to look for a replacement plug, because the tab you can grab using locking pliers looks like it will not last much longer.

Derick

SM2K#400 Brava




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: fresh water lines

jsrogers@...
 

I have pumped the water from any compartment where it was found, only on the port side.  My freezer in aft of the salon table and the AC unit is forward.  If the bulkhead, aft of the forward shower, is indeed water tight then the water leak must be in the salon port side, but I have not found it yet.  Viewing the salon table facing to the port side, the right corner plywood seat is fixed and not removable so I guess I am going to have to cut it.  Thanks Eric for telling  me about your construction photo, but I am looking more in the salon area. 


Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Colin,

By the time SM2K #400 was built, the plug in the lazarette was still a screw-in,  I find it very difficult to unscrew, or screw in.  I have intended to look for a replacement plug, because the tab you can grab using locking pliers looks like it will not last much longer.

Derick

SM2K#400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Santorin overview

karkauai
 

Hi Elm,
I own a SuperMaramu, but my understanding is that all Amels are solid fiberglass hulls, monocoque construction with deck glassed to hull.   Cabin tops are balsa core but with some added features that make them stronger and less likely to wick moisture that gets into the core.  I think it was either Joel or Olivier (our Amel guys that know everything there is to know) who posted something about this in the Conversations within the last several months.  You may be able to find that post by doing a search for it.
Kent


On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, elmbrook@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you everyone for taking time to respond ti my questions.  Can someone tell me how the Amel hull were constructed (solid core/foam core etc.)?  I'd also be interested in everyone's and anyone's views on the Santorin ketch versus Santorin sloop.  How well Does each sail.  How many sloops were built?  Thanks

Elm


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING

karkauai
 

Sounds like a disaster about to happen!  I don't guess you could hear a thump when the motor was engaged?  I'll check mine in the morning and report if I see any problems.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Waiting out the weather in the Sassafrass River by Shenanigans (Pat and Diane)


On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:00 PM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

   .I meant to say 175,000 pound breaking strength.
I had to buy  18 so if anyone in the USA needs 5 please let me know.
Eric
 
 
 


I was in my port cockpit locker yesterday starting to install an Espar heater. I thought I would check the Port electric winch to see if it had the same problem as my starboard winch had earlier this year.

 

I held the motor and it turned, I then had my friend activate the winch and the whole motor assembly slammed into the coaming. This is definitely a problem.

 

I removed the motor and mounting flange and sure enough all allen head cap screws were either broken off  or not connected to the base of the winch. They are part number 15 in the attached link.

 

Amel obviously did not use a thread locker on my winches.

They also used plain steel screws instead hardened ones. The hardened ones are black in color and have a braking strength of 175,000 pounds.

 

I would strongly suggest anyone with electric winches look at the drive motors and see if they move when activated. The port winch will be easy to reassemble but the starboard one was very difficult .

Fair winds

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

http://www.p2marine.com/sailing-gear/lewmar/lewmar-winch-parts-48est.shtml

 


Re: Predict wind program

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Eric et al.

I use OpenCPN for my computer-based navigation as a redundant system to my Raymarine GPS and chartplotter(s).  I have found that OpenCPN (free software) will allow me to download free GRIB files, and that these files interact with a free boat routing software called qtVlm using user-supplied polar coordinates (as can be found in the Amel Yahoo files section).  Works well.

Because I wanted to download email and GRIB files when out of WiFi range, I recently purchased a Pactor modem so that I can use the SSB to access both Sailmail and GRIB files.  Other than the $250 per year cost of Sailmail, it is now all free.  The Pactor modem was expensive, of course, but so is purchasing a sat phone.

Derick

SM2K #400


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Predict wind program

Alan Leslie
 

Eric, it is actually a routing...its done via Predict Wind Offshore...they gave me a free trial of it for a week.
You create a request file (selecting what you want GRIB, GMDSS Forecast, routing etc) and email it to offshore at Predictwind and they send back a .pwr file that you open in the Offshore app.
The files are very small 1-7kb and Sailmail has a gateway for .pwr files so they don't get blocked as other attachments do.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Electric winch WARNING

Eric Freedman
 


Electric winch WARNING

Eric Freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice

Stephen Davis
 

JP....would you mind sending those pictures to us as well, as I'd like to find a way to add some lateral stability to our Emek arch as well. We are currently in Annapolis, and we have good resources to get something fabricated here. Flyboyscd at gmail. 

Thanks,
Steve and Liz
Aloha SM72
Annapolis, MD 



On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:18, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gang,


Photos sent to Colin… he will place them on the site..

Cheers,

JPG
Eleuthera, SM007



On 2 Oct 2015, at 15:29, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have Simpson/Lawrence davits on my Santorin Sloop and is strong and safe enough to carry my AB 8'9" dinghy thru hell & high water. Have actually carried 2 dinghys on a Frers 60. Same davits. Davits mounted on stern. Stern must be beefed up due to flex. I have solar panels on aft deck, also moved stern light on end of davit for better night visioably n. BTW the boom on the sloop is longer and balances fine. Rrrrrr matey.

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:15 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I believe that there are few davits that are strong enough and stable enough to support your dinghy while sailing. Maybe Simpson Davits, but they will cost more than you want to pay...and I am not sure that I have seen Simpson on a Maramu.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:04 PM, jeremy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Fellow Owners,


I've decided to get a 8ft6in RIB for our trusty Cerulean and wanted to discuss the various options (from custom to premade + hybrid).


Would like to keep the cost to a minimum without sacraficing the durability and strength.


I know there are a lot of previous threads on this issue but some go all the way back to '02!


Any additions or updates to the most simple, cost effective solution are much appreciated.


Best,

Jer


SVCerulean.com


ALSO NOTE: I'm selling our GigHarbor sail dinghy, it's simply too difficult for my lady + dog to get in and out of. It's perfect for the aft deck if anyone is interested:

< a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/boa/5244690686.html">10' Gig Harbor Navigator Sailboat - Nesting - $3950 (Marina Del Rey)

< div class="link-enhancr-element" style="width:168px;" align="center">
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Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Predict wind program

Eric Freedman
 

Alan,

Do you actually get a route with sailmail or just grib files?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 7:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Predict wind program

 

 

The Predict wind routing files are very small...only a few kB...and yes you need to pay for a subscription...BUT you can get them on sailmail via SSB which costs next to nothing cf. Iridium Go or slow otherwise.. 

I'll use it next season when we gi to the South Pacific again...

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

Photos sent to Colin… he will place them on the site..

Cheers,

JPG
Eleuthera, SM007



On 2 Oct 2015, at 15:29, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have Simpson/Lawrence davits on my Santorin Sloop and is strong and safe enough to carry my AB 8'9" dinghy thru hell & high water. Have actually carried 2 dinghys on a Frers 60. Same davits. Davits mounted on stern. Stern must be beefed up due to flex. I have solar panels on aft deck, also moved stern light on end of davit for better night visioably n. BTW the boom on the sloop is longer and balances fine. Rrrrrr matey.

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:15 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I believe that there are few davits that are strong enough and stable enough to support your dinghy while sailing. Maybe Simpson Davits, but they will cost more than you want to pay...and I am not sure that I have seen Simpson on a Maramu.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:04 PM, jeremy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Fellow Owners,


I've decided to get a 8ft6in RIB for our trusty Cerulean and wanted to discuss the various options (from custom to premade + hybrid).


Would like to keep the cost to a minimum without sacraficing the durability and strength.


I know there are a lot of previous threads on this issue but some go all the way back to '02!


Any additions or updates to the most simple, cost effective solution are much appreciated.


Best,

Jer


SVCerulean.com


ALSO NOTE: I'm selling our GigHarbor sail dinghy, it's simply too difficult for my lady + dog to get in and out of. It's perfect for the aft deck if anyone is interested:

< a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/boa/5244690686.html">10' Gig Harbor Navigator Sailboat - Nesting - $3950 (Marina Del Rey)

< div class="link-enhancr-element" style="width:168px;" align="center">
10' Gig Harbor Navigator Sailboat - Nesting - $3950 ...
Legendary 10' Gig Harbor Navigator NESTING. Only a year and a half old from Gig Harbor Boat Works. She has has been sitting on our aft deck, covered wi...
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Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Santorin overview

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

If you would like more info on the Santorin, email directly off the forum. I have owned Bali Hai 11 years and sailed her over 20,000 offshore miles.

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Elm Brook elmbrook@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you everyone for taking time to respond.  Can anyone tell how the hulls are constructed?  Are the solid glass or foam cored?  I'd be interested in anyone's point of view on benefits and downsides of the Santorin sloop versus the ketch?  What are the biggest headaches with Amel boats and the Santorin in general? 

Regards,
Elm

On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Siviero Attilio attilio.siviero@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an Amel Santorin #84 (1993) “Sisila", now in Rhodes Marina, Greece, and I steered to it, rather than SM, because we planned (my wife and myself) cruising mostly in the Med, even if Santorin ketch is well suited for the “pond” (Atlantic Ocean), and any other “pond”.


We bought her in Le Lavandou, France, French Riviera, in the winter of 2009, and we crossed all the Med, to Genova, then Corse, Sardinia, Tunisia, Sicily, up to Venice, now Aegean sea and Turkey's Turquoise Coast: few thousands of miles since 2009, only during summers.

A friend of mine, Craig Briggs came from Florida on Sangaris, his Santorin Ketch, with few modifications, mostly domestic (freezer, air conditioning, bigger fridge, genset, watermaker). I only put solar panels, davits, aerogen, one more battery for the engine, bimini. We do not need freezer, washing machine, dishwasher, genset and watermaker in the Med (solar panels and aerogen feed sufficient power).

The choice was mostly due to economic reasons, maintenance and mooring fees, and 46feet are sufficiently safe for any sea, not much less than 53feet of SM. The difference from SM is mostly geometric, further to domestic features, probably SM can face safely harder seas, maybe more than Santorin, but in the Med has more problems to fit in the Marinas, and in many small bays where to take shelter during storms, apart cost matters.

Also, to change sails and rigging, that I made, was less expensive.

So maybe a good compromise, same safety in sailing, less costs, even if sometimes during summer I would like air conditioning (anyhow I made big canvas covering almost the whole boat at anchor, and this is less expensive, does not need genset, as Bernard Moitessier said: what is missing does not need to be fixed).

I think I would buy her again

Cheers

Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 01/ott/2015, alle ore 17:53, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

I’ve seen a sloop Santorin up close and my opinion is… don’t do it.  Too much a compromise on the Amel philosophy.


Welcome aboard


JEAN-PIERRE GERMAIN, 
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 1 Oct 2015, at 16:45, elmbrook@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Well 1st off - Hello.  I've recently joined the group to become knowledgeable about Amel Santorin sailboats and Amel boats in general.  I've searched the web and specifically this forum to find information on construction, design philosophy and on the suitability of Amel Santorin for blue water cruising.  What little I've found so far is promising but I'd be grateful if anyone could point me in the direction of posts or web site data that presents Amel Sailboats and specifically the Santorin 46 (sloop and ketch).


From what little I've learned so far this may be the boat that fits my wife's and my need for a blue water cruiser.


Regards,

Elm(er)



Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007
Marina di Ragusa, Pontoon M15,
97100 Ragusa, Sicily, Italy
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

I have Simpson/Lawrence davits on my Santorin Sloop and is strong and safe enough to carry my AB 8'9" dinghy thru hell & high water. Have actually carried 2 dinghys on a Frers 60. Same davits. Davits mounted on stern. Stern must be beefed up due to flex. I have solar panels on aft deck, also moved stern light on end of davit for better night vision. BTW the boom on the sloop is longer and balances fine. Rrrrrr matey.

Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc
Office 410-923-5800
Fax 410-923-5802

On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:15 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I believe that there are few davits that are strong enough and stable enough to support your dinghy while sailing. Maybe Simpson Davits, but they will cost more than you want to pay...and I am not sure that I have seen Simpson on a Maramu.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:04 PM, jeremy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Fellow Owners,


I've decided to get a 8ft6in RIB for our trusty Cerulean and wanted to discuss the various options (from custom to premade + hybrid).


Would like to keep the cost to a minimum without sacraficing the durability and strength.


I know there are a lot of previous threads on this issue but some go all the way back to '02!


Any additions or updates to the most simple, cost effective solution are much appreciated.


Best,

Jer


SVCerulean.com


ALSO NOTE: I'm selling our GigHarbor sail dinghy, it's simply too difficult for my lady + dog to get in and out of. It's perfect for the aft deck if anyone is interested:

< a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/boa/5244690686.html">10' Gig Harbor Navigator Sailboat - Nesting - $3950 (Marina Del Rey)

< div class="link-enhancr-element" style="width:168px;" align="center">
10' Gig Harbor Navigator Sailboat - Nesting - $3950 ...
Legendary 10' Gig Harbor Navigator NESTING. Only a year and a half old from Gig Harbor Boat Works. She has has been sitting on our aft deck, covered wi...
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Re: Confirmation of Duo 60 replacement Membranes

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

I understand it varies by water turbidity and salinity, but roughly how long do the membranes last?

Duane
Wanderer SM477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Predict wind program

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Eric,

 

I use Nobeltec for navigation. It does all of this too. We use the SSB to download GRIBs and can overlay onto our computer and look at conditions along planned routes and set condition parameters etc.

 

As Kent said, the file cost about $7 to download on Iridium. It is faster using our SSB and free.

 

It’s a personal thing but, we are very anti-subscription.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Hampton VA

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Predict wind program

 

 

Mark,

The data comes compressed from Predict wind and has unlimited text and data in the plan.

I can download all the weather data now for free on SSB, However you can receive their route analysis reviewed every 12 hours . They show 4 routes with distance and time of travel included. You can specify what weather conditions you will sail in an they will show you the route. One route is based on NOAA  another the Canadian weather service, I forgot where they get the other two from.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Predict wind program

 

 

I have not tried this specific combo. We are not big fans of data over
Iridium (until they move to the new satellites, if ever). It is very slow.
It may be better with compression software.

However, I am amazed that someone would be willing to pay so much for
weather when it is available for free and comes from the same sources.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Hampton, VA (in a hurricane hole)

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 8:13 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Predict wind program

Hi,

Does anyone have experience with the predictwind.com program for passage
planning and the use of the Iridium

Go phone?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice

Patrick McAneny
 

Jer, I bought an arch made by Atlantic Towers. I saw it at the Annapolis boat show two years ago. Its anodized aluminum ,made to order based on the beam, it is shipped to you in three pieces in a large box , it has articulating bases which I mounted on the deck , not on the transom as some are. It took me about four hours to install . You can buy as an option solar mounts and davit mounts. I and a friend that welds stainless made my own solar/davit mount. We just sailed from the Chesapeake to Grenada and back with a 10.5 ' aluminum rib (97 lbs.) on the arch , engine on the rail and it proved to be strong and stable. It still has a good shine and could probably pass for s.s . One advantage is that it does not weigh much and the other the price , $1,200.00 . There may be  pics of my boat on their website as they asked me to send photos .
Good Luck,
Pat SM Shenanigans 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: jeremy@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2015 1:05 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice

 
Fellow Owners,

I've decided to get a 8ft6in RIB for our trusty Cerulean and wanted to discuss the various options (from custom to premade + hybrid).

Would like to keep the cost to a minimum without sacraficing the durability and strength.

I know there are a lot of previous threads on this issue but some go all the way back to '02!

Any additions or updates to the most simple, cost effective solution are much appreciated.

Best,
Jer

SVCerulean.com

ALSO NOTE: I'm selling our GigHarbor sail dinghy, it's simply too difficult for my lady + dog to get in and out of. It's perfect for the aft deck if anyone is interested:


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Alan

Yes, that's why I thought it worth asking. That hole is in the perfect spot to drain any water from that compartment but my plug was also threatening to snap off when trying to twist it off with pliers.

Did you also find some water getting in there from the top of the davits & down through the cable entry hole?

Best

Colin Amel53 #332


On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:32 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I too am interested to see these photos if possible...


Regarding the drain plug... I tried turning it and the top broke off...I'll probably end up drilling it out and replacing it......

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445