Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Sorry Alan, The lid support will be used on the new refrigerator. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 5:52 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
I contacted the dishwasher company some months ago for parts for Eumenia Mini and they told me that the parts were no longer available...ours goes, its just the lid support that is broken Cheers Alan Elyse SM437.
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Electric winch WARNING
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Kent, Those bolts retain the winch base part #10 to the boat. The bolts that failed are #15 in the drawing. They are bolted to the conical part of the winch base sticking down from the coaming. They retain the round disk #14 and are not visible. This conical winch base item and the #14 disk form a non-rotating base that prevents the motor from turning on itself. Once the bolts #15 are in place the motor is bolted to the round disk #14 with bolts #12. If you look at the drawing you will see two sets of holes in plate #14. The inner ones are for the cap screws. The outer ones hold the motor on. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 3:32 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING
My winch motors are good and tight. I see 5 bolts coming through the coaming surrounding the motor from beneath with nuts and washers. I guess these are the ones that failed on Kimberlite? As long as they are tight, should I disassemble the winch from above too? Thanks, Kent SM 243 Kristy
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Re: Electric winch WARNING
Eric,
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With the major force of the winch being torsional, it is the shear strength of the cap screws that is critical, rather than the "breaking strength", which is the amount of tension force it's rated for. Certainly, using a thread lock compound is important, but the original Amel spec (which undoubtedly is what Lewmar specified) is correct (chock up one more for the Captain :-). It is likely your loose fasteners allowed a "shock" or "jerk" loading to develop and that is what sheared your bolts, not inadequate tensile or "breaking" strength. Totally agree with your recommendation to see if the motors move, by we can all rest easy with just checking that the bolts are tight, rather than changing out to hardened steel, which is actually more brittle in shear. Cheers, Craig , SN#68, Sangaris, hunkered down for the Nor'easter in NYC. ---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote : .I meant to say 175,000 pound breaking strength. I had to buy 18 so if anyone in the USA needs 5 please let me know. Eric
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Re: Drain hole plug in rear storage locker on SM - Push in plug of screw in?
Thank you Ian - very useful info! That may be the source of my mystery leak in the lazarette!!
Derick SM2K#400 Brava
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Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
Thanks Joel! You certainly ordered a lot of nice options on the Mary Brown. We still have her picture on board as a reminder of her heritage!
Derick SM2K#400 Brava (AKA Mary Brown, AKA Ulys of Tortola)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
I contacted the dishwasher company some months ago for parts for Eumenia Mini and they told me that the parts were no longer available...ours goes, its just the lid support that is broken
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING
My winch motors are good and tight. I see 5 bolts coming through the coaming surrounding the motor from beneath with nuts and washers. I guess these are the ones that failed on Kimberlite? As long as they are tight, should I disassemble the winch from above too? Thanks, Kent SM 243 Kristy
On Oct 2, 2015, at 5:54 PM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Eric, FYI, all is tight and solid on BeBe 387...very close to your number. Bill BeBe 387
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
amelforme
The dishwasher is more problematic as it is no longer produced and ‘the brain’, the part that fails, seems not to be available anywhere. A shame as it is a nice quiet unit that uses less than 4 US gallons a load. Anybody out there able to find a replacement ‘brain/processor’ for the top loading dishwasher in later model Super Maramu’s? If so, let us know, please. Good luck with the typhoon. We just dodged a bullet with Hurricane Joaquin here on the east coast of the USA. I will check my file to see if I have any JOVIC info that would be useful and let you know… Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 12:32 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
That's great news many thanks. I'll get onto that. Just the dishwasher to go when I find a German friend to talk to that company discussed. Off to put some extra lines out as the latest typhoon is fast approaching....
If anybody has any history or pictures of Jovic I'd be interested. John and Vicky have never replied to emails since the money was handed over. Sad as I'm sure there must be many stories.
Regards
Mawgan Grace S/V Jovic SM #310 Hong Kong Gold Coast Marina
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
Mawgan grace
That's great news many thanks. I'll get onto that. Just the dishwasher to go when I find a German friend to talk to that company discussed. Off to put some extra lines out as the latest typhoon is fast approaching.... If anybody has any history or pictures of Jovic I'd be interested. John and Vicky have never replied to emails since the money was handed over. Sad as I'm sure there must be many stories. Regards Mawgan Grace S/V Jovic SM #310 Hong Kong Gold Coast Marina
On 4 Oct, 2015, at 00:12, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
amelforme
Hi Derick. I looked at the original invoice on your BRAVA, my previous boat MARY BROWN and it did indeed have the interior LED red light option. I helped to develop this option with my colleagues at Amel and the purpose was to softly illuminate all the ‘trip points’ throughout the interior. Spots were one might not notice a place where one needed to step over a bulkhead foot or to show the drop down area just aft of the nav station, especially to those new to the boat as guests who might not be totally familiar with these elevation changes/toe stubbers. I am all but certain I did not specify a strobe light on this boat but sometimes they would give me one anyway! The LED switch is indeed in the compartment just over the galley sinks with the autopilot components. It should fall readily to hand on the starboard side of this area. I can still remember it in my mind’s eye, but I forgot what I had for breakfast today…Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 11:33 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
Thanks Drew and Eric. When I get back to Brava in November I will see if I can find these two switches. I did not know there was a masthead strobe light! My ignition cutout is in a different place, so maybe these switches are also set up in different places?
Fair winds,
Derick SM2K#400 Brava Currently on the hard in Antigua
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING
Eric,
Thanks for the heads up. I checked ours and all is firm and bolted. It will look periodically as a routine maintenance item. With best regards, Mark Super Maramu 2000 Hull #275 www.creampuff.us Currently cruising: Hampton VA From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 5:54 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING . Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender.I was in my port cockpit locker yesterday starting to install an Espar heater. I thought I would check the Port electric winch to see if it had the same problem as my starboard winch had earlier this year. I held the motor and it turned, I then had my friend activate the winch and the whole motor assembly slammed into the coaming. This is definitely a problem. I removed the motor and mounting flange and sure enough all allen head cap screws were either broken off or not connected to the base of the winch. They are part number 15 in the attached link. Amel obviously did not use a thread locker on my winches. They also used plain steel screws instead hardened ones. The hardened ones are black in color and have a braking strength of 175,000 pounds. I would strongly suggest anyone with electric winches look at the drive motors and see if they move when activated. The port winch will be easy to reassemble but the starboard one was very difficult . Fair winds Eric Sm 376 Kimberlite http://www.p2marine.com/sailing-gear/lewmar/lewmar-winch-parts-48est.shtml [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
No problem at all to replace, we did it just a couple of years ago, and we also know that the product still is on the market. Just Google Frigoboat, and you will find it. /Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998. Skickat från min iPad
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Differences between SM types?
evastaffanpersson@...
Hello Joel, we are looking into buying a SM2000 and would really like to know the differences between the red line edition and the regular. I find it difficult to find details about the Amels online and I am not familiar with using the yahoo group. So, no, I would NOT be bored about hearing ALL the details about it! Thanks so much!!
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Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
Thanks Drew and Eric. When I get back to Brava in November I will see if I can find these two switches. I did not know there was a masthead strobe light! My ignition cutout is in a different place, so maybe these switches are also set up in different places?
Fair winds, Derick SM2K#400 Brava Currently on the hard in Antigua
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Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
Gaffney, Drew <drew.gaffney@...>
On our boat, there is a single toggle switch on the starboard side of the space above the galley. It's very near the "ignition interrupt". The masthead strobe light toggle switch is also there.
Drew SY Revelation SM#390
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Predict wind program
Stephen Davis
Hi Eric,
We installed both the iridium Go, and started using Predict Wind wind a few months on Aloha. We have the unlimited data plan for $125.00/month, and Predict Wind is about $16/mo when you pay for a year in advance. For that price, I can run weather routes all day long if I want. When the internet is available, I get the data off the web, and when not, we use the Iridium Go. We have the Go mounted at the nav station, and the external antenna is on the aft starboard rail with an 18" stainless extension to give it a clear view of the sky. We ran the antenna cable through the same chase all the SSB wire runs through. It was an easy couple of hour install for us. Just so everyone is clear about what Predict wind does, it runs very detailed routes using 4 different models in this part of the world. On a recent offshore trip from St Augustine, FL to the Chesapeake, we had our first good opportunity to evaluate its usefulness, and we were impressed. The routes include waypoints, wind, wave, and current info, and you can update the route every 12 hours. Also, you have the ability to export the route into what ever navigation software you have. In our case, we export to Open CPN and INavX on the Ipad. As with any weather models, if they all diverge greatly, you have some issues with the forecast. If they are all fairly close, you should have a Higher confidence level in the forecast. Another feature of the routing tool is the ability to specify wind and sea state you would like to avoid, and it will route you clear of the 40 knots of wind and 20 foots seas that you would prefer not to encounter. It also has the ability to run departure plans for a 4 day window, which is intended to help you evaluate when best to leave on your trip. Another nifty feature on the App is the ability to download the iridium satellite constellation, and see them in reference to your current position in order have a higher chance of a good connection of your first attempt. With regards to the Iridium Go, we were pleased with its performance. We have never had an Iridium phone, so have no basis for comparison. We did install the external antenna, and I think that is the key to good reception. On the trip From St Augustine, we only had to attempt to get our data twice on one occasion. Normally, the entire route was downloaded in about 2 to 3 minutes, and unlike the SSB, it uses almost no battery power in the process. With the unlimited data plan, you are able to get email and text as much as you like. FYI...the latest version of sail mail works with the GO, and we found it worked very well. When we purchase our data plan a few months ago, it came with 5 minutes a month of free voice time. They changed the package last month to include 150 minutes a month of free voice time. The GO creates a wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices, and you use you Iphone or Android as a satphone. Since we sheared our coupling on the last trip, I used about 30 minutes of voice time talking to boatyards while well off shore. We had clear connections, and one dropped call, which we were able to redial right away. Our experience with the GO is faster and easier connections than the SSB, and it will do things the SSB will not. Mark is correct in that everyone gets weather data from the same sources, and those sources are free. The difference is in the analysis, and Predict Wind is an excellent analytical tool for about the cost of a couple of trips to Starbucks a month. With as much money as we all spend on keeping our boats going, why would you not spend this small amount for an added level of safety. I've earned my living as a pilot for over 40 years, have a better understanding of weather than most, but weather forecasting is still not my day job, and the Predict Wind folks do it better than I can. Okay, I admit it, I need all the help I can get! I hope sharing our experiences with the Go and PW have answered your questions. We think that for the minimal cost, it is well worth it, and it adds another valuable tool to your collection. Regards, Steve and Liz Aloha SM72 Currently in Annapolis, MD
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electric winch WARNING
Thanks Eric
On Oct 3, 2015, at 1:11 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, I never heard anything until the motor on the starboard winch motor was broken open and the armature came out of the motor. It woke me up. The ¼ inch studs that hold the motor together were also sheared off. We sailed home from St Maarten this spring and I heard nothing from the port winch. I guess the winch makes so much noise the sound is not heard. Please let me know if you need for me to send you bolts. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sounds like a disaster about to happen! I don't guess you could hear a thump when the motor was engaged? I'll check mine in the morning and report if I see any problems. Kent SM243 Kristy Waiting out the weather in the Sassafrass River by Shenanigans (Pat and Diane)
.I meant to say 175,000 pound breaking strength. I had to buy 18 so if anyone in the USA needs 5 please let me know. Eric
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
amelforme
It is a FRIGOBOAT unit made by parent company VECO in Italy. Search the web for a local source as they are well represented world wide. I sold that boat to John and Vicky when it was new and glad it is still being enjoyed. Good luck with the repair. Joel
On Oct 3, 2015, at 6:45 AM, gashman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Under Seat Chest Freezer cooling element
Mawgan grace
Hi all,
I got a bit carried away de-icing one of my chest freezers and stupidly punctured the white box shaped cooling element sending freeon into my face. Ive had no luck finding a replacement so my question is does anybody know what company produced the parts or is there a replacement cooling elements that will fit the system? Happy Sailing Regards Mawgan Grace S/V Jovic SM #310 Hong Kong
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