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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bamar Furler replacements/upgrade from Bamar
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Gian's boat name is NOW OR NEVER #079. His email is gpstaffa"at"centovigneitalia.it He will not respond until October 26th because he is crossing the Atlantic with his 54 and moving to Antigua. Bill BeBe 387
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Bamar Furler replacements/upgrade from Bamar
yahoogroups@...
The following was posted for Gian Piero Staffa, 54 Owner of Now or Never. I like and respect Gian. I will post his contact information later Look for the notification of the letter from Bamar to Gian which I will upload shortly. Best Bill BeBe #387
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New file uploaded to amelyachtowners
amelyachtowners@...
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners group. File : /Bamar Letter to Amel Owners.pdf Uploaded by : svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> Description : Uploaded on behalf of Gian Piero Staffa You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Bamar%20Letter%20to%20Amel%20Owners.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398 Regards, svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Olivier Beaute
Good morning Eva and Staffan, of course, the more recent an SM is, the more equipped with options she may be... The options of the first SMs were only concerning some electronics. Here are the main "options", more or less available on an SM, according to its hull number and first purchaser's choice: -Water maker 60l/h 24V or 60l/h 24V/230V or 160l/h 230V -Second autopilot drive -Second full autopilot -Seagull freshwater filter -Holding tanks (1 or 2) -Second deep freezer -Diesel fuel heater (air) -Fresh air ventilation pack (9 outlets, 6 blowers) -Mosquito screens for all hatches and portholes -Latches on all inside opening floor boards -Spinnaker halyard -SPURS rope-cutter -Large automatic fire extinguisher for engine room -Strobe light (in masthead nav tri-color light -Companionway hatch securing stainless steel board -Large 24V/230V inverter (2.5kVA) -Set of cockpit cushions -Set of aft deck cushions -Cockpit sun awning -Half cockpit winter awning -Full cockpit winter awning There has been many changes on electronics throughout the years: The basic standards were: B&G nav computer with Sonic speed, wind and depth Furuno RADAR VHF Autopilot GPS All the other electronics were optionnal (in fact upon purchaser's request). Our good friends from USA were sometimes keen on RAYMARINE products. Main changes in the standard SM: In 1993: -batteries in the passageway, 9 instead of 5 -1500 rpm 230V generator (ONAN) -3 groove head sail foil -VOLVO engine (TMD22 or TAMD22) -Bigger mizzen staysail -Vinyl headliner with filt instead of foam -BRUNTON Autoprop In 1999 (SM 2K): New floor boards (GRP or Synthetic wood instead of teak veneer) Electric toilets Slightly different galley lay-out New upholstery (Suedine) YANMAR 4JH3-HTE engine (maybe from 2001 on) Most of these SM had the comfort package (optionnal): 13 batteries, second battery charger, bigger 24V alternator, dual RACOR pre-filter for fuel I missed some items for sure and Joel may remember more. Of course, throughout the years, some older SMs have installed newer options, so make sure to get a detailed list of equipments before having a pre-purchase visit. This e-mail may raise a lot of questions about each single SM...(Did I open Pandora's box?) However, Eva and Staffan, as Bill mentions, the 90% important basics are included in each SM. Have a good day. Olivier
On Monday, October 5, 2015 9:40 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Eva & Staffan, I believe that there were more options than the press led you to believe...and minor changes each year through the production run of the Super Maramu...many, if not most of some minor annual changes were incorporated in the SM's big sister, the 54. But, of course, major changes happened with the 54. Furuno Navnet was mentioned earlier. I believe that you will find that it was an option before it was standard, and it was standard later because the earlier, non-navnet was no longer available. I believe that you will find the bonding test system on the last year or so of the SM...I really like that, but unfortunately, I guess either BeBe was too early for that or it was an option that was missed. During the production of the SM there were some major changes that are not as obvious. The C Drive was significantly changed at least once which allowed for two things that I know of: Auto-Prop and increased horse power. The earlier model C Drives did not have the clearance needed for an Auto-Prop (don't learn this the hard way). So, if you want the best of the best, the last models of the amazing production run of almost 500 Super Maramus will be the last year. But, in most cases we are talking about things that are insignificant to what makes this boat the best of the best. There are two people in this Group that really know all of the answers, one is a broker specializing in Amels, Joel Potter...the other a surveyor and long-time employee of Amel, Olivier Beaute. They are each Amel experts. I suspect that they have not added much because of two reasons....the entire production run was great and there are many little variances, even though all SMs look the same. If you are purchasing an Amel and not using either of these guys, the difference in your purchase experience will be far greater than difference between SM #1 and SM #480. Let me know if you need contact information. Bill BeBe 387 On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:38 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Eva & Staffan, I believe that there were more options than the press led you to believe...and minor changes each year through the production run of the Super Maramu...many, if not most of some minor annual changes were incorporated in the SM's big sister, the 54. But, of course, major changes happened with the 54. Furuno Navnet was mentioned earlier. I believe that you will find that it was an option before it was standard, and it was standard later because the earlier, non-navnet was no longer available. I believe that you will find the bonding test system on the last year or so of the SM...I really like that, but unfortunately, I guess either BeBe was too early for that or it was an option that was missed. During the production of the SM there were some major changes that are not as obvious. The C Drive was significantly changed at least once which allowed for two things that I know of: Auto-Prop and increased horse power. The earlier model C Drives did not have the clearance needed for an Auto-Prop (don't learn this the hard way). So, if you want the best of the best, the last models of the amazing production run of almost 500 Super Maramus will be the last year. But, in most cases we are talking about things that are insignificant to what makes this boat the best of the best. There are two people in this Group that really know all of the answers, one is a broker specializing in Amels, Joel Potter...the other a surveyor and long-time employee of Amel, Olivier Beaute. They are each Amel experts. I suspect that they have not added much because of two reasons....the entire production run was great and there are many little variances, even though all SMs look the same. If you are purchasing an Amel and not using either of these guys, the difference in your purchase experience will be far greater than difference between SM #1 and SM #480. Let me know if you need contact information. Bill BeBe 387
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:38 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Predict wind program
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi, The navy charts and noaa satellite views are somewhat accurate, however I understand the the pro version is so expensive because P wind pays a service just for the stream and other currents. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 7:58 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Predict wind program
Hello Eric,
Yes, we subscribe to the "Professional" level of PredictWind.
Must admit, however, that we haven't really explored what if any ocean current information is available. We focus on wind and wave height.
Back in Ft L., when we were planning to depart, we had PredictWind Pro but our planning regarding the Gulf Stream used other sources available on the internet. Sometimes one goes with the path of least resistance and just use the tools that one knows from before.
Peregrinus SM2K No. 350
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
The red lights, the choice of watermakers and handhold were separate options Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 9:32 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
They seem to vary a lot. Elyse is a 2004 Redline with 100hp Yanmar, 13 batteries, but only 60l/hr watermaker and no lights in cubby holes or the red lights recently discussed, nor the handhold....but we do have a dive compressor. So the "standard" boat is not so standard after all ! Alan Elyse SM437
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Dinghy with 9.8 Tohatsu 2 stroke stroke for sale in Deltaville
ericmeury@...
We purchased a nesting dinghy yesterday complete with a sail kit, so i'm selling the inflatable and 9.8 Tohatsu 2 stroke as it really is too much for a rowing dinghy. I thought i would put it up for sale here. I really have no idea how much the engine is worth. Dinghy is a carib. Both are in Deltaville. Eric
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
The comfort package definitely had the bigger yanmar, 12 batteries in the main bank, a triple anchor roller , and a triple light over the salon table. That is all I can remember in adition to the things previously mentioned. I also believe some Red Lines came with all Raymarine instruments, chartplotter and radar. I had a heck of a battle with Pouchon to get all Raymarine and the latest Autopilot course computer it was the model 400 then name changed to S1g, they had a stock of the older black model which did not have a built in gyro.
Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 4:33 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Andrew, My understanding is that Corian was an option,not part of the comfort pack which as you have mentioned focused mainly on the water maker,twin Racor filters, larger water maker,electric heads,larger cooker,electric fans,etc. I also thought that originally the Yanmar 100hp was part of the comfort pack? It does seem that towards the end of the production of Super Maramus there was a certain amount of cross over with fixtures. Joel or Olivier would know for sure.
Regards,
Trevor Seafever of Cuan SM 425 Redline 2004 Mexico
FOR SALE
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Nat Bossett
So sorry, mis-reply.
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On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 06:50:07PM -0700, Nathan Bossett nbossett@pierb.com [amelyachtowners] wrote:
You're welcome to try the wireless one with the iPad... want to take the
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Nat Bossett
You're welcome to try the wireless one with the iPad... want to take the
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one I know works to Mexico though. You could just have the other one. Anyway, turns out that I'm at Wally's tomorrow night for pool. Happy to play a few games there this evening and buy you a couple of beers if you like. Don't want to bun more than an hour and a half though. -Nathan
On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 06:31:47PM -0700, divanz620@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] wrote:
They seem to vary a lot. Elyse is a 2004 Redline with 100hp Yanmar, 13 batteries, but only 60l/hr watermaker and no lights in cubby holes or the red lights recently discussed, nor the handhold....but we do have a dive compressor.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
They seem to vary a lot.
Elyse is a 2004 Redline with 100hp Yanmar, 13 batteries, but only 60l/hr watermaker and no lights in cubby holes or the red lights recently discussed, nor the handhold....but we do have a dive compressor. So the "standard" boat is not so standard after all ! Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Predict wind program
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
Hello Eric,
Yes, we subscribe to the "Professional" level of PredictWind. Must admit, however, that we haven't really explored what if any ocean current information is available. We focus on wind and wave height. Back in Ft L., when we were planning to depart, we had PredictWind Pro but our planning regarding the Gulf Stream used other sources available on the internet. Sometimes one goes with the path of least resistance and just use the tools that one knows from before. Peregrinus SM2K No. 350
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
The corian, the Comfort Pack, the 160 ltr/hr watermaker and a Furuno "NavNet" chartplotter/radar unit were delivered on SM2K No. 350, a 2002 model.
Other than the color, I speculate the difference between SM2K No. 350 and a Red Line is a hand-hold rail in red-leather covered steel somewhere in the dining area: either on the table, or screwed to the ceiling. A feature surprisingly not found on all SM2K built after # 350 but present on Nr. 350 is the 7 convenience lights, one in each of the nearly oval cubbyholes (2 aft, 1 aft passage, 2 salon, 2 fwd). N. 350 had no diesel heater installed at the factory, but all the air conduits were installed for the fresh ventilation system, making aftermarket installation a drop-in affair. N. 350 also had no factory dive tank compressor. Would be interesting to know if No. 350 is missing any other components. Peregrinus Vilanova de Arousa, Spain
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Re: Maramu #105 - Cerulean Needing Davit Advice
Dave_Benjamin
The stern of a Maramu is a pretty narrow spot to mount davits. I took a set of Kato davits in trade for a windvane install with the idea of using them. Ultimately I just sold them and continued to use a halyard to get the dinghy off and on the boat. I think that's the way the Cap'n intended as well.
Inflatables suck IMHO. If I were in the market for a dinghy I'd be calling you today to buy that beautiful nesting dinghy of yours. You could add some inflatable sponsons to that to make it a bit more stable for you landlubber sailing guests. Or maybe add a flip down swim platform to the transom to make it easier to get on and off the dinghy. Are you bent on having a RIB? You could easily store a dinghy on top of the aft cabin. Some of the ones with the inflatable bottoms handle okay. We carried a Porta-Bote and an old Avon inflatable. The inflatable stored in the lazarette when on a passage. When anchored it lived on top of the aft cabin. I like having two dinghies so one is a decoy and gives people the impression that we are aboard the boat. Boats that look occupied are less likely to be burglarized.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
seafeverofcuan@...
Andrew,
My understanding is that Corian was an option,not part of the comfort pack which as you have mentioned focused mainly on the water maker,twin Racor filters, larger water maker,electric heads,larger cooker,electric fans,etc. I also thought that originally the Yanmar 100hp was part of the comfort pack? It does seem that towards the end of the production of Super Maramus there was a certain amount of cross over with fixtures. Joel or Olivier would know for sure. Regards, Trevor Seafever of Cuan SM 425 Redline 2004 Mexico FOR SALE
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
HI, Would you also please send me photos Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 9:19 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Switch for Floor-level Lighting
Will be happy to e-mail you the pictures right away. Send me your e-mail address to:
svperegrinus followed by the __//a.t//__ symbol followed by yahoo **period ** com
Best,
Peregrinus Vilanova de Arousa, Spain
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Actually, Corian, the Comfort Pack and the 160 liter water maker were available before Red-Line, and are in SM BeBe #387, which is a 2003 model. The Furuno systems had moved to Navnet about the time of the Red Line, but Navnet wasn't necessarily added because of Red Line. I think that there are very little differences in the 2003 SM and Red line, other than the color of the rub rail, boot stripe and leather trim. The 2003 did not have Furuno Navnet because it really wasn't available at the time. Bill BeBe, 387
On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Schiccherona schiccherona@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bathing platform
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Paul, It looks very good. I bet you love that Emek Arch. You know we bought arch #1 from Emek, and today they are cheaper than the one we bought. You might think that there was a lot of trial and error, but when they brought it to the boat, it fit perfectly. Bill BeBe
On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Red line edition
Flavia Pozzolini
The red line edition refers to the last production for super maramu, namely 2003,2004 and few 2005 boats. It has some more implementations when compared with the 2000 edition. For istance the corian in the kitchen. The electronics etc. However the major differences you have to look for are the type of watermaker and the presence of the comfort pack. Fair wind Andrew Schiccherona SM 441Inviato da iPhone
Il giorno 04 ott 2015, alle ore 13:55, evastaffanpersson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
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