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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New to the group, also, looking for a Super Maramu 2K.

James Studdart
 

Good morning,
 thanks for the leads and emails! Much appreciated. I can't help but help but find it reassuring that Amel owners often seem to upgrade to another Amel!

Cheers,
 James.



On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 at 05:06 osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello!

We bought our SM 2k this February, and before that we saw 7 SM, over Europe, whereof we actually made offer to three of them as they were in good condition and reasonable value for money compared with other SM for sale.

So of the three one is still unsold it’s not a 2k, but 1994 (SM named TROY) with new engine, genset, instrument etc, and in VERY good condition, owned by a former merchant ship captain of the “old school “. I would say the ship is in very good order, and the one who buy that will have a few years of trouble free voyaging. So why did I not bought it? Two reason:

 EU VAT not paid so I had to add that to the price and it would be on the expensive side but also a little bit cumbersome to sort out. And I found the one I bought in the meantime and did not pursue the negotiation


The one I finally purchased come at a real bargain, so even if I had to spend some money to put it into the equipment level and shape of my comfort it’s was still the best deal.


I recommend you to look at Troy in Turkey, it’s sold through Emek Marine, it’s worth to go there just to meet the owner, a very nice retired merchant ships captain who crossed the Atlantic alone with his SM. Now at the age of 77 he is looking to trade up to an Amel 54!!! For a second voyage “over there” I really hope I’m in the same shape as he is now when I’m 77

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

 

 

 
Re: New to the group, also, looking for a Super Maramu 2K.

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!

We bought our SM 2k this February, and before that we saw 7 SM, over Europe, whereof we actually made offer to three of them as they were in good condition and reasonable value for money compared with other SM for sale.

So of the three one is still unsold it’s not a 2k, but 1994 (SM named TROY) with new engine, genset, instrument etc, and in VERY good condition, owned by a former merchant ship captain of the “old school “. I would say the ship is in very good order, and the one who buy that will have a few years of trouble free voyaging. So why did I not bought it? Two reason:

 EU VAT not paid so I had to add that to the price and it would be on the expensive side but also a little bit cumbersome to sort out. And I found the one I bought in the meantime and did not pursue the negotiation


The one I finally purchased come at a real bargain, so even if I had to spend some money to put it into the equipment level and shape of my comfort it’s was still the best deal.


I recommend you to look at Troy in Turkey, it’s sold through Emek Marine, it’s worth to go there just to meet the owner, a very nice retired merchant ships captain who crossed the Atlantic alone with his SM. Now at the age of 77 he is looking to trade up to an Amel 54!!! For a second voyage “over there” I really hope I’m in the same shape as he is now when I’m 77

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

 

 

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu Electrical Compliance - New Zealand / Australia

Alan Leslie
 

Eric.....

OF COURSE my berth is free....A65......I'm paying for it while I'm out in the hard...you can use that 

Its the first pier on the port hand when you come in, you'll see right at the end a vacant berth ...catamaran on the end, big power boat in the next berth...opposite the Gulf Harbour ferry and the Maori waka on z-pier

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu Electrical Compliance - New Zealand / Australia

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Eric,

I don't think I have any resistors...but that's a good idea...

I'll certainly be here....antifoul work doesn't start 'til Monday, we're booked to relaunch next Friday...

Look forward to seeing you !!

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu Electrical Compliance - New Zealand / Australia

johnericmorton@...
 

Hi Alan

Without some sort of ground fault tester it would be hard to simulate a fault. A high value resistor connected from a 220V AC socket outlet phase to earth does the the trick.  With the Onan generator running I used my  multimeter with a 2K Ohm resistor in series on the maximum Amps setting between the positive and earth and it took out the 2 Amp fuse on the multimeter without tripping the RCD.

Weather permitting we will have a short run up to Gulf Harbour on Wanderer on Sunday and probably stay overnight on Sunday night if there is a casual berth free.

Will you be around "on the hard" at Gulf Harbour on Sunday or Monday?

Would be great to see another Amel boat "on the hard".

Cheers

John and Mali 

Wanderer

Bayswater
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu Electrical Compliance - New Zealand / Australia

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Eric,

I can't tell if the RCD trips without having some faulty appliance to plug into the circuit ! I'll have a think about how I could create a fault and test it.
We're out of the water until end of next week so won't be able to run the genset until then anyway.

If you have to comply with NZ regs then I guess you have to comply...I can't offer any more on that.

I did ask for any "expert" advice but no responses so far.....Olivier Beaute would be the best source of an answer for anything Amel.

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
"On the hard"  
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Maramu Electrical Compliance - New Zealand / Australia

johnericmorton@...
 

Hi Alan

Thank you for checking that out.  It would be worth knowing whether the RCD device still provides protection when the generator is running on your boat............ according to my friendly electrical inspector the RCD device does not provide protection without the neutral grounding (and he demonstrated that the generator supply fails the ground test meter with the shore power disconnected).  

For interest, I checked the 2014 NZ Standard. It applies to the design, construction and installation of boats in NZ.   Since Wanderer was imported into NZ (and taxes paid) it seems the boat must comply to get a new EWOF.

It would seem that if an Amel boat is temporarily in NZ it need not comply with the standard. I guess that means the Amel boats can get the EWOF required to berth at a Marina.

The standard is clear and prescriptive - the generator 220V AC neutral output MUST be connected to earth.      It looks like the Amel 220VAC European outlet sockets are non compliant. They need to either be replaced with socket outlets complete with a switched live, or a switch fitted on the live supply next to each socket outlet.   I've ordered 7 off 220V AC 16Amp SPDT (Single Pole Single Throw) illuminated ON/OF rocker switches for Wanderer.  They are compact and should be easy to fit.


Is there an "Amel Expert" who can give a definitive answer regarding grounding the generator AC 220V Neutral?  My friendly electrical inspector thinks the installation without this is unsafe.  Is there some other Amel design feature that means this is not required?

I'm not happy with putting in a quick bonding link to keep the Inspector happy and then removing it after he issues the EWOF.

Cheers

John M.

Wanderer

Amel Super Maramu

Bayswater

Auckland
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New to the group, also, looking for a Super Maramu 2K.

James Studdart
 


Thanks Jean-Pierre. We have been in touch with Pierre-Andre Jeanne about a couple of yachts. He was great to deal with and very helpful. I have a feeling I'll be flying all over Europe in December!

If I remember rightly, you did a near complete refit on Eleuthera? Did you do the work yourself or hire it out? Possibly Karin Team? How did you find the process? We've got two young children, so although I'd be happy to do a refit I don't think we could in any reasonable amount of time.

Cheers,
 James.



On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 at 10:33 Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi James,


We bought Eleuthera through Michel but there ia another top notch Amel broker named Pierre Andre Jeanne.  

Don’t count him out

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 9 Oct 2015, at 19:20, james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

 My wife and I (James & Chloe) are new to the group. Well, sort of, I have actually been lurking for awhile absorbing huge amounts of useful info on keeping these yachts in great shape. Thank you all! And, with some luck, hopefully we'll be thanking you all again as we inevitably fix a "new to us" SM.

On this note, we are looking for a Amel SM2K. Likely an earlier one (1999-2002) due to our budget. I am in touch with both Michel and Joel. We are mainly interested in yachts in Europe, so sadly that leaves Joel out a bit.

We have scoured the yachts on Yachtworld many many times. At the moment we are in Los Angeles packing up land life, so it's been hard to to visit them personally. That changes next month. So if you personally know of a well cared for SM2K please let me know: james dot studdart at gmail dot com. I hope this sort of request is okay with the group.

Many thanks and we hope to bump into some of you out there. We already owe a few of you a beer at the very least.

Cheers,


 James.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New to the group, also, looking for a Super Maramu 2K.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi James,

We bought Eleuthera through Michel but there ia another top notch Amel broker named Pierre Andre Jeanne.  

Don’t count him out

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 9 Oct 2015, at 19:20, james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

 My wife and I (James & Chloe) are new to the group. Well, sort of, I have actually been lurking for awhile absorbing huge amounts of useful info on keeping these yachts in great shape. Thank you all! And, with some luck, hopefully we'll be thanking you all again as we inevitably fix a "new to us" SM.

On this note, we are looking for a Amel SM2K. Likely an earlier one (1999-2002) due to our budget. I am in touch with both Michel and Joel. We are mainly interested in yachts in Europe, so sadly that leaves Joel out a bit.

We have scoured the yachts on Yachtworld many many times. At the moment we are in Los Angeles packing up land life, so it's been hard to to visit them personally. That changes next month. So if you personally know of a well cared for SM2K please let me know: james dot studdart at gmail dot com. I hope this sort of request is okay with the group.

Many thanks and we hope to bump into some of you out there. We already owe a few of you a beer at the very least.

Cheers,


 James.
New to the group, also, looking for a Super Maramu 2K.

James Studdart
 

Hi all,

 My wife and I (James & Chloe) are new to the group. Well, sort of, I have actually been lurking for awhile absorbing huge amounts of useful info on keeping these yachts in great shape. Thank you all! And, with some luck, hopefully we'll be thanking you all again as we inevitably fix a "new to us" SM.

On this note, we are looking for a Amel SM2K. Likely an earlier one (1999-2002) due to our budget. I am in touch with both Michel and Joel. We are mainly interested in yachts in Europe, so sadly that leaves Joel out a bit.

We have scoured the yachts on Yachtworld many many times. At the moment we are in Los Angeles packing up land life, so it's been hard to to visit them personally. That changes next month. So if you personally know of a well cared for SM2K please let me know: james dot studdart at gmail dot com. I hope this sort of request is okay with the group.

Many thanks and we hope to bump into some of you out there. We already owe a few of you a beer at the very least.

Cheers,

 James.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sueno Azul

Barbara Nairne
 

Hi all
Just to let y know Sueno Azul has been sold to Lynette and Andrew Mcclaren
And will be staying in southport qld Australia

The boat has gone to a great couple and I really appreciate their enthusiasm and adventurous spirit

Once again I would not have been able to fix all the boat problems of new motor new Cdrive electric winches bow thruster and bonfiglio motors without the assistance of the Amel yahoo group

Feeling real sad that I was unable to continue but the best result was achieved

Barb
Sueno Azul
Super maramu








On 23 Sep 2015, 7:16:47 AM, Barbara Nairne surfskis2002@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Located at southport marina Gold Coast a39
I actually work in Gladstone and returning there tomorrow
Thank y all for your encouragement I sure do appreciate it
Barb

On 23 Sep 2015, 4:23:19 AM, Nefeli smnefeli@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Donato,


we own SM #38, just one before yours since nearly 4 years. Be reassured, it has been a lot of work to set-up everything and still, from time to time, I am frustrated when something breaks and it is difficult to find replacements; however we decided two years ago to cross the Atlantic and sail to the Caribeans, and the She kept all the promises to be a very safe and comfortable yacht. Hang fast: you will be rewarded.

Fernando
s/y Nefeli
sm #38

On 22 Sep 2015, at 08:12, Donato Valente ing.d.valente@... [amelyachtowners] amelyachtowners@...> wrote:




Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 22 set 2015, alle ore 07:32, surfskis2002@... [amelyachtowners] amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:


Hi all

After 3 frustrating years with this boat and myself never having the courage to sail said solo have now listed the boat for sale

She has tried my patience and lack of knowledge but with help from the group a new Yanmar motor a new c-drive from amel new bonfiglio mast and furler motors a total rebuild of the bow thruster and interior Fitout I can't think of anything else major to be done

So if anyone knows of a possible purchaser please let me know or email for further details

1991 super maramu hull no 39
Re: Amel 54 - Catriona R

yahoogroups@...
 

Tony,

I see no problem with your post. You are an Amel owner and want to let the rest of us know that you are selling. Likewise, I see nothing wrong with a future Amel owner posting his desires for an Amel.

I would draw the line with a broker posting.

Good luck,

Bill
BeBe 387
Amel 54 - Catriona R

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

I suspect I'm going to be told off for this post, but here goes anyway.....I have decided to put my 54 on the market - apolloduck ref 446688. She is competitively priced as there is no broker involved. Am happy to answer any questions if anybody might be interested.....

Regards, Tony Robinson
Amel 54 #102 Catriona R

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

I suspect I'm going to be told off for this post, but here goes anyway.....I have decided to put my 54 on the market - apolloduck ref 446688. She is competitively priced as there is no broker involved. Am happy to answer any questions if anybody might be interested.....

Regards, Tony Robinson
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Would you buy all electric no diesel Amel?

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

There is a high end solution described at http://www.torqeedo.com/en/products/hybrid-drives - not sure if this really exists or is just marketing but I thought it was quite interesting as it doesn’t get rid of reliance on diesel but might potentially extend range. I suspect it is a very expensive solution though.

 

Andrew

 

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 6:03 PM
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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Would you buy all electric no diesel Amel?

 

 

Re: Would you buy all electric no diesel Amel?

allen
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Lofrans Windless buttons

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

No rubber cover, buttons where open to dust and this could be an issue because during operation they could block. So tape cover prevents dust to obstruct the “naked” buttons. During winter textile “sumbrella” protection (not shown in the shot, but can be tailored by any upholsterer) makes the rest.
Fair winds

Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 08 ott 2015, alle ore 14:48, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

Did you get hold of the rubber cover? I just found out that I need to change mine

so interested to find out your source
Paul S/Y Kerpa SM #259
Re: Lofrans Windless buttons

Paul Osterberg
 

Did you get hold of the rubber cover? I just found out that I need to change mine
so interested to find out your source
Paul S/Y Kerpa SM #259
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Capacitor Size

hanspeter baettig
 

Hello Ian
Can I ask you the Price for your brown tinted windows for your doger?
Maybe we see us this upcoming Winter for skiing in Switzerland ?!
Br Hanspeter
SM 16, Tamango 2

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 08.10.2015 um 13:55 schrieb "Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi Bill and Aty,

thank you for your swift response. You were right Bill. Two 30 mf caps wired in parallel. All the markings had disappeared off mine so your info and pictures allowed me to quickly visit a great little shop down a back alley in Marmaris that had exactly what I needed. The pump now runs faster and pressure is mid green band without the knocking noise that was there before. It's been running for an hour now with no signs of a shut down.

I had the old capacitors tested. One measured 20 mf and the other 24 mf, so I was about 27% down on capacity.

Aty I don't know why your capacitor sizes are so different. Maybe a different motor?

Now the cooling fan in the 100 amp battery charger has failed (not for the first time) and the gas struts suddenly decided to give up, so tomorrow is not a free day after all!

Bill I had brown tinted windows fitted to the dodger which look really super and which are great to look out through. No need to wear sunglasses any more. I also had a new cockpit bimini made which is vastly better that the original design. The front frame was extended 7 cms upwards allowing for a full width opening panel that allows a great view of the sails plus allowing a great through breeze that transforms the comfort level. You can actually stand at the wheel whilst helming. It actually feels like sailing again!

I also bought a 650 VA UPS from MediaMarkt for just €41 which now permits uninterrupted TV viewing when shutting down the genset and going to inverter AC.

Best wishes


Ian Shepherd Amel SM2K 414 Crusader Marmaris Turkey


On 06/10/2015 11:59, Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Does anyone please know the size of the two capacitors on the high
pressure AC pump motor fitted to the 160 l/h water maker? My motor is
running very hot and after about 40 minutes the circuit breaker trips. I
suspect the motor is running slow with reduced fan cooling, as I only am
just able to reach the green range on the HP pressure gauge. Maybe the
run capacitor needs changing.

Bill, maybe you know the size as I believe you have changed most of your
capacitors?

Ian Shepherd Amel sm2K 414 Crusader Marmaris Turkey

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Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Capacitor Size

Ian Shepherd
 

Hi Bill and Aty,

thank you for your swift response. You were right Bill. Two 30 mf caps wired in parallel. All the markings had disappeared off mine so your info and pictures allowed me to quickly visit a great little shop down a back alley in Marmaris that had exactly what I needed. The pump now runs faster and pressure is mid green band without the knocking noise that was there before. It's been running for an hour now with no signs of a shut down.

I had the old capacitors tested. One measured 20 mf and the other 24 mf, so I was about 27% down on capacity.

Aty I don't know why your capacitor sizes are so different. Maybe a different motor?

Now the cooling fan in the 100 amp battery charger has failed (not for the first time) and the gas struts suddenly decided to give up, so tomorrow is not a free day after all!

Bill I had brown tinted windows fitted to the dodger which look really super and which are great to look out through. No need to wear sunglasses any more. I also had a new cockpit bimini made which is vastly better that the original design. The front frame was extended 7 cms upwards allowing for a full width opening panel that allows a great view of the sails plus allowing a great through breeze that transforms the comfort level. You can actually stand at the wheel whilst helming. It actually feels like sailing again!

I also bought a 650 VA UPS from MediaMarkt for just €41 which now permits uninterrupted TV viewing when shutting down the genset and going to inverter AC.

Best wishes


Ian Shepherd Amel SM2K 414 Crusader Marmaris Turkey


On 06/10/2015 11:59, Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Does anyone please know the size of the two capacitors on the high
pressure AC pump motor fitted to the 160 l/h water maker? My motor is
running very hot and after about 40 minutes the circuit breaker trips. I
suspect the motor is running slow with reduced fan cooling, as I only am
just able to reach the green range on the HP pressure gauge. Maybe the
run capacitor needs changing.

Bill, maybe you know the size as I believe you have changed most of your
capacitors?

Ian Shepherd Amel sm2K 414 Crusader Marmaris Turkey

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Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus
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