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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 


My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.



Stuffing box

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 


My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.


Re: Electric Mass -defect

magenofer@...
 

Hallo to all in the group,

since a week now,I have the same problem:
when testing the electricity leak to the minus ,the light goes ON.

I would appreciate an advice ,what can it be and what is the plan to find it.

thanks,
Ofer
Alba Amel 54 #160


Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

ofer magen
 

Jamie and Wolfgang,
The 2500W and the 800W inverters are under the table. There is space enough.
The environment is less challenging then in the engine room.

Regards,

Ofer Magen


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

jeff wingfield <ki4jde@...>
 

32 amps.

Jeff

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:30 AM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good to hear from you Craig. I know yours is a factory install and I always thought the arrangement you describe was the way Amel would have installed it. Trying to get a big inverter under the nav table is nigh impossible - let alone both of them.
Hope you are doing well and thanks for the info.
By the way, what size was your shore power circuit breaker in the lazarette? Do you remember?
Maybe Jeff can check on Last Tango.
Thanks,
Jamie
s/v Phantom Amel 54




On Monday, November 23, 2015 10:05 PM, "'sv.lonestar@...' sv.lonestar@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Jamie,
The 2500 watt inverter on Lone Star (now Last Tango) is on the port side in the engine room facing forward.  When you look over the generator you see that inverter and then the 40amp and 100 amp chargers. 

Another smaller inverter for powering the televisions is under the nav station. 

Craig


On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:40 PM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Wolfgang, the more I look at my installation options in the nav station locker I am sure Ofer replaced the 800W inverter. I think Amel would have just installed the 2500W inverter and run bigger DC wire as an upgrade. I can see no reason to have 2 inverters in the boat, and there is just no room for both anyway, unless you install the big one in the engine room. As it is, I have to move the existing equipment in the locker a bit just to accommodate the larger unit.
Thanks for the tip.
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54



On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:24 AM, "Wolfgang Weber webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Good to hear from you Craig. I know yours is a factory install and I always thought the arrangement you describe was the way Amel would have installed it. Trying to get a big inverter under the nav table is nigh impossible - let alone both of them.
Hope you are doing well and thanks for the info.
By the way, what size was your shore power circuit breaker in the lazarette? Do you remember?
Maybe Jeff can check on Last Tango.
Thanks,
Jamie
s/v Phantom Amel 54




On Monday, November 23, 2015 10:05 PM, "'sv.lonestar@...' sv.lonestar@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Jamie,
The 2500 watt inverter on Lone Star (now Last Tango) is on the port side in the engine room facing forward.  When you look over the generator you see that inverter and then the 40amp and 100 amp chargers. 

Another smaller inverter for powering the televisions is under the nav station. 

Craig


On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:40 PM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Wolfgang, the more I look at my installation options in the nav station locker I am sure Ofer replaced the 800W inverter. I think Amel would have just installed the 2500W inverter and run bigger DC wire as an upgrade. I can see no reason to have 2 inverters in the boat, and there is just no room for both anyway, unless you install the big one in the engine room. As it is, I have to move the existing equipment in the locker a bit just to accommodate the larger unit.
Thanks for the tip.
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54



On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:24 AM, "Wolfgang Weber webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162

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Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

ofer magen
 

Hi to all.
I did not replace the 800W inverter.
The 2500W inverter is installed facing the 800W inverter.it's bloking a beat the space. It is mounted on the back wall of the drawers under the navigation table.

Ofer Magen


Re: Headlining alternatives

Andy Croney
 

Hi Deb,

we are at replacing / upgrading all the soft fabrics on the boat hull , side of aft berths saloon lockers etc. We have also used this material extensively on Landside applications.

You might want to check it our Texdecor.com - made in France.

Just a thought and maybe an alternative.

Pleased to say that the previous owner put on a great headliner for us, which is holding up well :-) so we don't face this project ...............yet

Good Luck and all the best

Andy
Maramu #75


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

Craig Scott
 

Jamie,
The 2500 watt inverter on Lone Star (now Last Tango) is on the port side in the engine room facing forward.  When you look over the generator you see that inverter and then the 40amp and 100 amp chargers. 

Another smaller inverter for powering the televisions is under the nav station. 

Craig


On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:40 PM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Wolfgang, the more I look at my installation options in the nav station locker I am sure Ofer replaced the 800W inverter. I think Amel would have just installed the 2500W inverter and run bigger DC wire as an upgrade. I can see no reason to have 2 inverters in the boat, and there is just no room for both anyway, unless you install the big one in the engine room. As it is, I have to move the existing equipment in the locker a bit just to accommodate the larger unit.
Thanks for the tip.
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54



On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:24 AM, "Wolfgang Weber webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Wolfgang, the more I look at my installation options in the nav station locker I am sure Ofer replaced the 800W inverter. I think Amel would have just installed the 2500W inverter and run bigger DC wire as an upgrade. I can see no reason to have 2 inverters in the boat, and there is just no room for both anyway, unless you install the big one in the engine room. As it is, I have to move the existing equipment in the locker a bit just to accommodate the larger unit.
Thanks for the tip.
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54



On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:24 AM, "Wolfgang Weber webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link10 Battery Monitor Issues

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark, 

I do not but I looked at the Victron BMV-700 Battery Monitor which does fit the same hole as the Link 10. I like its specs, Including monitoring 2 different batteries, but noted that it does not monitor battery temperature.

Wolfgang, my experience with Mastervolt on other boats causes me to lack confidence in the reliability of the Mastervolt brand, so I would chose Victron over Mastervolt.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:10 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The BattMan Lite by Mastervolt looks to be the same as Xantrex LinkLITE Battery Monitor. Even the instructions are the same.

 

Does anyone have any experience with this unit?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  St Augustine FL

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link10 Battery Monitor Issues

Mark Erdos
 

The BattMan Lite by Mastervolt looks to be the same as Xantrex LinkLITE Battery Monitor. Even the instructions are the same.

 

Does anyone have any experience with this unit?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  St Augustine FL

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Ofer, do you now have 2 inverters under the nav station table? I have the small 800W inverter there now (powering my TV) and do not see how there would be room behind the door for the large 2500W inverter. Is the big inverter in the compartment behind the door or at the very bottom where your feet go when sitting in the chair? Even there it would be tight.
Do you have a photo you could post?
Thanks again,
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54



On Monday, November 23, 2015 9:58 AM, "ofer magen ofermagen@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Jamie,
The 2500W inverter in my boat Alba -Amel 54 , is located under the navigation tabel. It was installed by Emek Marin.
They also conected the micro wave to the inverter so that it can work on the batteries or on the generator or shore power.
Regards and good luck,
Ofer Magen
Alba A54 #160



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link10 Battery Monitor Issues

Wolfgang Weber
 

Bill
I just saw the Mastervolt has new in programm a BattMan Pro - looks like the Link 10 Moniitor.
May be the description - see download from the web - is better.
Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 # 162


Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162



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Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

ofer magen
 

Hi Jamie,

The 2500W inverter in my boat Alba -Amel 54 , is located under the navigation tabel. It was installed by Emek Marin.
They also conected the micro wave to the inverter so that it can work on the batteries or on the generator or shore power.
Regards and good luck,
Ofer Magen
Alba A54 #160


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Christophe

Do you have a Santorin? What is the number and where are you?

Ric Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:

 

 

Christophe

My previous boat, a Jeanneau 37, had 10mm chain. When we bought our Santorin (twice the weight) it had 8 MM. chain. I asked the surveyor about its suitability. He checked some tables which indicated that 10mm was more appropriate.
We changed to 100m of 10mm in Sardinia with a new gypsy. There is a Rocna 25 on the end of it.
I am happier with the 10mm because of the catenary effect of the chain's weight relative to the 15 tons of the boat. There is less jerk on the whole system. We prefer to anchor and have done so from the Med to Scotland and the Caribbean, 3 times in F9. The boat has always felt comfortable.
I'm sure there would have been no problem with 8mm. I just feel some reassurance in weight of chain x length of scope etc.
No issues with weight in the bow - I'm sure you've already noticed the stern down aspect of Amels!
The only issue this year was the tendency of the chain to pile up and jam in the hawser hole with 8 metres to stow!! This was because I reversed the chain and the still new end had quite a bit of salt on it. It's now worn in and runs smoothly.
My advice would be to suck it and see. The boat had obviously managed well with 8mm so far. Put that one lower down the wish list.

Ian 'Ocean Hobo' SN96

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link10 Battery Monitor Issues

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, I installed a Link 10 on my last boat and found the manual confusing, I thought it was just me , glad to read that Bill  found it confusing as well. A few years ago I installed a Victron meter. Very similar to the Link 10 , but the manual seemed easy to follow . It has worked well measuring the input from the solar panels, wind gen. and engines .
Pat SM Shenanigans
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2015 6:12 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link10 Battery Monitor Issues

 
Hi Kent,
 
What did you replace it with and hw has it worked out for you?
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Super Maramu 2000
Hull #275
Currently cruising:  St Augustine FL
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link10 Battery Monitor Issues
 
 
I had to replace mine three or four years ago.
Kent
SM243
Kristy 


On Nov 22, 2015, at 12:20 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
We are having issues with our Link10 battery monitor.
 
We have reset and re-programmed the unit a number of times trying to fix this issue over the past few months. We are certain it is programmed correctly. The unit did work correctly and reset itself after charging up until about 6 months ago.
 
The unit is not measuring an accurate flow of amps going into or out of the battery bank. It is off by a factor of about 5 amps. Example: We are on a mooring buoy and the unit reads 5 A (positive) as our current load. We know we are using about 5-6 amps right now. The number should be negative. We have no chargers running. If we turn off everything DC with the large red battery handles, it will read 10 A indicating we are putting 10 amps into the battery. Because the unit is not correctly measuring the amp flow, it is not counting down or resetting when charged.
 
Has anyone else had issues with this that can give some pointers of things to check? Do these go bad?
 
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Super Maramu 2000
Hull #275
Currently cruising:  St Augustine FL
 


Re: Headlining alternatives

Alejandro Paquin
 

Deb good morning,
Yes changing the liner is hell.
I used a good quality liner (no foam) on the ceiling, but instead of gluing it, we first installed thin strips of wood to the ceiling (using glue) in the direction of the boat´s length and not too close together (about 1m apart or more) and then we stretched and stapled the material on to the wood strips, and then covered the staples with the original Amel wood trimming. It just takes some planning to make sure you don´t end up with too many of these trimmings. It worked well for me. So the vinyl is actually "floating" over the fiberglass, which is also a very irregular surface and would show through the fabric, that is why they used the foam type.  However we did glue down the bulkheads, fuel tank and vertical surfaces because it is less of a problem there.
I´ll try posting some pictures if I find them.

Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Amel Older Maramu 1981
Hull #94


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:

Ian Park
 

Christophe

My previous boat, a Jeanneau 37, had 10mm chain. When we bought our Santorin (twice the weight) it had 8 MM. chain. I asked the surveyor about its suitability. He checked some tables which indicated that 10mm was more appropriate.
We changed to 100m of 10mm in Sardinia with a new gypsy. There is a Rocna 25 on the end of it.
I am happier with the 10mm because of the catenary effect of the chain's weight relative to the 15 tons of the boat. There is less jerk on the whole system. We prefer to anchor and have done so from the Med to Scotland and the Caribbean, 3 times in F9. The boat has always felt comfortable.
I'm sure there would have been no problem with 8mm. I just feel some reassurance in weight of chain x length of scope etc.
No issues with weight in the bow - I'm sure you've already noticed the stern down aspect of Amels!
The only issue this year was the tendency of the chain to pile up and jam in the hawser hole with 8 metres to stow!! This was because I reversed the chain and the still new end had quite a bit of salt on it. It's now worn in and runs smoothly.
My advice would be to suck it and see. The boat had obviously managed well with 8mm so far. Put that one lower down the wish list.

Ian 'Ocean Hobo' SN96





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