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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM 209 Main Furler

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>

#23874

HI Gary

There is a spare motor on board.

Did you try to run the motor with no load before you took it apart?

Are you getting power to the motor? If yes

If the brushes are good then it's most likely the end bearings.
Happy Thanksgiving to you both.
Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All

Capt Richard

RP Yacht Brokerage

Newport RI

We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

Cell 603 767 5330

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On Nov 25, 2015, at 03:58, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, that's perfect. I'll get after that and once I get the unit off the day ck and into the cockpit I'll try the application of superior technical knowledge and motor skills necessary to pry it apart :)
Sorry we didn't connect in Hampton. We came down from Galesville, MD on Oct 27 and left with the Salty Dawg Rally on Nov 3rd.

Thanks again!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 209 Main Furler

Stephen Davis

#23873

Hi Gary,

Sorry you are having issues with the furler, but hopefully it will be an easy fix. If by chance find you have an issue with the gearbox, we carry a complete spare Leroy Somer gearbox, and would be happy to send it your way should you need it. Liz and I should be arriving in Fajardo, Puerto Rico about noon, after cruising the Spanish Virgins for the last couple of weeks.

Have a great Thanksgiving, and let us know if we can help.

Steve and Liz

Aloha SM 72

Fajardo, PR

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On Wednesday, November 25, 2015, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, that's perfect. I'll get after that and once I get the unit off the day ck and into the cockpit I'll try the application of superior technical knowledge and motor skills necessary to pry it apart :)
Sorry we didn't connect in Hampton. We came down from Galesville, MD on Oct 27 and left with the Salty Dawg Rally on Nov 3rd.

Thanks again!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rebuild Cat pump directions.

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#23872

Great info Eric!

Thanks.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Tue, 11/24/15, sailormon kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rebuild Cat pump directions.
 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 10:06 PM


  




 




       https://www.autowashonline.com/Customer/auwama/customerpages/specpages/3FRSvc.pdf  For those of you who
 are interested in rebuilding your Cat 160 LPH
 pump.Fair
 WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
 Maramu #376
  









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

JEFFREY KRAUS

#23871

Re: SM 209 Main Furler

Gary Wells

#23870

Thanks Mark,  that's perfect.  I'll get after that and once I get the unit off the day ck and into the cockpit I'll try the application of superior technical knowledge and motor skills necessary to pry it apart :)   
Sorry we didn't connect in Hampton.  We came down from Galesville,  MD on Oct 27 and left with the Salty Dawg Rally on Nov 3rd.  

Thanks again! 

Gary W. 
SM 209, Adagio

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

Beaute Olivier

#23869

Hi Thomas,

I would only add that turning a sixth of a turn (or two) will let you put the securing plate back to its previous location.

The adjustment is not so accurate...

Olivier

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On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:21 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.

You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.

You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.

Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.

I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.

It was suggested by dow corning to use Molykote silicone grease it is specially formulated for packing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

Bill

BeBe 387

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months.

My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.

Rebuild Cat pump directions.

eric freedman

#23868

https://www.autowashonline.com/Customer/auwama/customerpages/specpages/3FRSvc.pdf

For those of you who are interested in rebuilding your Cat 160 LPH pump.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 209 Main Furler

Mark Erdos

#23867

Gary,

I can help partially.

To remove the motor take out the four bolts you loosened to slide it down (when operating manually). The gears will drop down from the furler and you can set the motor on the cabin top.

The wiring is connected inside the forward head. Remove the cover to the area of the watertight bulked at the cabin top inside the head. There are four solenoid things there. Two are for the outhaul and two for the furling. The four are wired into two pairs. Disconnect the appropriate wires and pull them up from the top keeping them attached to the motor.

Once the motor and gears are removed from inside the mast; to remove the gearbox from the motor, there are screws holding the gearbox on. I do not recall if it is 2 or 4 screws. Once remove, it takes some oomph to separate the motor and gearbox. Nothing else holds these two components together. I remember having to tug really hard.

Sorry this is not much help. I replace our motor and gears about 3 year ago. I wish I had made better notes.

We must have just missed you in Hampton.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: St Augustine FL

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 209 Main Furler

Greetings and Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it.
We just completed passage to the BVIs from Hampton, VA. and while the passage was not uneventful, it worked out well for us and our crew.
Today, however, the main sail furled out about 20% and stopped. Then, no more movement. Clicking at the helm and at the motor, and the breaker is not tripped.
I dropped the motor down, furled the sail manually and had a pretty good jib and jigger run down the Sir Francis Drake channel for a while :)

I am, however, without internet so am wondering if someone could coach me through removal of the motor and disassembly from the gearbox.

I have it down from the mast, but I don't see an obvious way to detach it from the wiring. I pulled the brushes (they are worn, but not excessively) and have removed several screws, nuts and bolts but it doesn't seem to want to disassemble from either end.

Advice is certainly appreciated. As soon as I can get it freed from its wiring I'll run it to a rebuilder.

Thanks in advance,

Gary W
S/V Adagio, SM 209
Tortola, BVI

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

eric freedman

#23866

As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.

You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.

You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.

Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.

I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.

It was suggested by dow corning to use Molykote silicone grease it is specially formulated for packing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

Bill

BeBe 387

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months.

My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.

SM 209 Main Furler

Gary Wells

#23865

Greetings and Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it. 
We just completed passage to the BVIs from Hampton,  VA. and while the passage was not uneventful,  it worked out well for us and our crew. 
Today,  however, the main sail furled out about 20% and stopped.  Then, no more movement.   Clicking at the helm and at the motor,  and the breaker is not tripped.  
I dropped the motor down,  furled the sail manually and had a pretty good jib and jigger run down the Sir Francis Drake channel for a while :) 

I am,  however,  without internet so am wondering if someone could coach me through removal of the motor and disassembly from the gearbox. 

I have it down from the mast,  but I don't see an obvious way to detach it from the wiring.  I pulled the brushes (they are worn,  but not excessively) and have removed several screws,  nuts and bolts but it doesn't seem to want to disassemble from either end. 

Advice is certainly appreciated.  As soon as I can get it freed from its wiring I'll run it to a rebuilder. 

Thanks in advance, 

Gary W
S/V Adagio,  SM 209
Tortola, BVI

Re: Hawse pipe replacement

rossny@mail.com

#23864

Mike, When I cleaned out the chain locker a couple of years ago I don't remember anything looking amiss. I can open it up and take some pics for you if you want to see what a '89 one looks like.

Hey, anyone else with an Older Maramu have this happen?

Ross

Maramu #261 1989

Getting cold in NYC

Re: Headlining alternatives

sbmesasailor

#23863

We replaced the liner on the surfaces of our forward and aft heads. We were able to get our hands on a felt-backed vinyl. We used spray-on adhesive and only needed to put on both the felt surface and the boat surface (like you would for contact cement) for the ceiling surfaces. It turned out quite nice as the felt seemed to absorb the surface variations nicely and the felt will not deteriorate like the foam did. The only problem was the material came in rolls that were not wide enough to do a headliner in the salon. You would need to cover a seam with a batten.

Dennis Johns

s/v Libertad

Lanzarote, Canary Islands

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>

#23862

Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine

Bill

BeBe 387

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On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months.

My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.

Stuffing box

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>

#23861

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months.

My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.

Re: Electric Mass -defect

magenofer@...

#24313

Hallo to all in the group,

since a week now,I have the same problem:

when testing the electricity leak to the minus ,the light goes ON.

I would appreciate an advice ,what can it be and what is the plan to find it.

thanks,

Ofer

Alba Amel 54 #160

Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

ofer magen

#23860

Jamie and Wolfgang,
The 2500W and the 800W inverters are under the table. There is space enough.
The environment is less challenging then in the engine room.

Regards,

Ofer Magen

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

jeff wingfield <ki4jde@...>

#23859

32 amps.

Jeff

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On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:30 AM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good to hear from you Craig. I know yours is a factory install and I always thought the arrangement you describe was the way Amel would have installed it. Trying to get a big inverter under the nav table is nigh impossible - let alone both of them.
Hope you are doing well and thanks for the info.
By the way, what size was your shore power circuit breaker in the lazarette? Do you remember?
Maybe Jeff can check on Last Tango.
Thanks,
Jamie
s/v Phantom Amel 54

On Monday, November 23, 2015 10:05 PM, "'sv.lonestar@...' sv.lonestar@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Jamie,
The 2500 watt inverter on Lone Star (now Last Tango) is on the port side in the engine room facing forward. When you look over the generator you see that inverter and then the 40amp and 100 amp chargers.

Another smaller inverter for powering the televisions is under the nav station.

Craig

On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:40 PM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Wolfgang, the more I look at my installation options in the nav station locker I am sure Ofer replaced the 800W inverter. I think Amel would have just installed the 2500W inverter and run bigger DC wire as an upgrade. I can see no reason to have 2 inverters in the boat, and there is just no room for both anyway, unless you install the big one in the engine room. As it is, I have to move the existing equipment in the locker a bit just to accommodate the larger unit.
Thanks for the tip.
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54

On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:24 AM, "Wolfgang Weber webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>

#23858

Good to hear from you Craig. I know yours is a factory install and I always thought the arrangement you describe was the way Amel would have installed it. Trying to get a big inverter under the nav table is nigh impossible - let alone both of them.

Hope you are doing well and thanks for the info.

By the way, what size was your shore power circuit breaker in the lazarette? Do you remember?

Maybe Jeff can check on Last Tango.

Thanks,

Jamie

s/v Phantom Amel 54

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On Monday, November 23, 2015 10:05 PM, "'sv.lonestar@...' sv.lonestar@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

Jamie,

The 2500 watt inverter on Lone Star (now Last Tango) is on the port side in the engine room facing forward. When you look over the generator you see that inverter and then the 40amp and 100 amp chargers.

Another smaller inverter for powering the televisions is under the nav station.

Craig

On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:40 PM, James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Wolfgang, the more I look at my installation options in the nav station locker I am sure Ofer replaced the 800W inverter. I think Amel would have just installed the 2500W inverter and run bigger DC wire as an upgrade. I can see no reason to have 2 inverters in the boat, and there is just no room for both anyway, unless you install the big one in the engine room. As it is, I have to move the existing equipment in the locker a bit just to accommodate the larger unit.
Thanks for the tip.
Jamie Wendell
s/v Phantom Amel 54

On Monday, November 23, 2015 11:24 AM, "Wolfgang Weber webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Ofer,
Did you replace your 800 Watt Inverter with the 2500 Watt inverter or did you add it with new and bigger cable to the batteries ?
I was thinking to replace the 40 A charger to the combi charger/inverter Mastervolt Ultra combi 3500 Watt /100 A which includes a Solar charger. By the way I need bigger DC powercable to the batteries .
Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 # 162

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Re: Inverter for Microwave/Outlets

ofer magen

#23857

Hi to all.
I did not replace the 800W inverter.
The 2500W inverter is installed facing the 800W inverter.it's bloking a beat the space. It is mounted on the back wall of the drawers under the navigation table.

Ofer Magen

Re: Headlining alternatives

Andy Croney

#23856

Hi Deb,

we are at replacing / upgrading all the soft fabrics on the boat hull , side of aft berths saloon lockers etc. We have also used this material extensively on Landside applications.

You might want to check it our Texdecor.com - made in France.

Just a thought and maybe an alternative.

Pleased to say that the previous owner put on a great headliner for us, which is holding up well :-) so we don't face this project ...............yet

Good Luck and all the best

Andy

Maramu #75