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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eamonn,

Congratulations. I think that you are mostly on the right track.

Here are my comments:
  1. You did not say where you will be sailing, so my comments are limited. If you plan to cross oceans and/or circumnavigate, you should have more spares than just oil and filters...but regarding filters, I assume that you have a racor or something before the engines...if so, buy 10 or 12 filters for it. You never know when you may have a fuel problem and yo do not want to be without plenty of these filters.
  2. I do have a second bilge pump ready to install. It is easy to install and I would not clutter the engine room and especially the gray water bilge area with a second one...keep the spare one in vacuum-sealed bag...like all spares.
  3. The most common failure for the autopilot is the drive unit, yes I would have a spare, but also, if you are crossing oceans, consider having a spare course computer, control head, fluxgate compass, and rudder reference if it is Raymarine and if it is something else, basically the same components.
  4. When older battery chargers and/or alternators fail, they many times cook the batteries...some way to easily measure the temperature of your batteries is important...possibly a digital instrument with an alarm.
  5. If you can find a 2-stroke it is lighter, but usually needs more repair than 4 strokes
  6. Your SM is old enough that it probably due for a motor failure, so having a spare is a good idea...I do not carry one
  7. 10 years ago we bought a 15" daylight viewable waterproof VGA monitor...this was before any other options such as HDMI were available...our VGA still works. We remove it when not sailing.
  8. ATN makes a storm sail that mounts on a furled genoa. I had one and was in a storm. Because of the conditions on the foredeck, I chose to not try to use the storm sail and used a small piece of genoa.After that storm (small cyclone that we were in for almost 5 days), I sold the storm jib.
  9. I have a second anchor that I have used once because I thought I needed it. I was wrong that one time and did not need it. You might need a stern anchor depending on where you are sailing. I used one in Galapagos, French Polynesia and at least one other time.
  10. 8mm is too small for a SM, you need 10mm. 84m will work almost everywhere, we have 100m. About 30kg would be appropriate so 65 pounds is not too big. I think the best anchors to use around the world are the "dragon-tooth" type. Examples are Wasi Bugel, Rochna, and Mantus...and there are some knock-offs of the Wasi in Europe made out of galvanized steel.We have a Wasi Bugel 30kg stainless steel anchor with a Wasi PowerBall swivel and 100m of 10mm galvanized chain.
  11. Your SM has many pumps and impellers...maintenance of these will probably consume most of your repairs. Do you have spares or back-ups?
  12. OK, I know the benefits of fresh water rinse on the chain, but is it really worth it. Even if you get 20% more life, is it worth changing what you have? I believe that there are other priorities.
  13. LEDs...do a lot of research here before you do too much. LEDs have certainly improved in the last 10 years, but they don't last forever, need replacing and need replacing on a 24VDC boat more than a 12VDC boat...unless you plan to install voltage regulators and that could be a big and expensive job. LEDs just don't like voltage over 27 volts and when your batteries are charging with your engine alternator, you will have over 24VDC.
  14. I would but a digital laser temperature gun and a digital battery tester which tests your house and starting batteries for load and shorts. 
  15. There is an Excel workbook in the files section of the spares we have for a circumnavigation...it is a little out of date, but may help you.
Hope this helps you...

Bill 
BeBe 387

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:56 PM, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi

I bought a SM this Spring and intend to set off for a few years when I retire early in a year.  What essential jobs should be done while it is easy to get equipment and qualified installers, before departing?  I am "hands on", so when underway wish to do as much as possible myself, but before I go I have professionals available.

I spoke to Gilles from Karin Team in St Raphael, South France.  He recons that 2 "must haves" for a long trip are:
1) a second bilge pump, already installed and plumbed in, in the engine room, ready to be switched over to replace a failed pump.
2) a spare "drive unit" for the autopilot (not a complete second autopilot).  Just a few screws and 2 wires required to swap it in.

Any comments on that?

I will renew the 8 batteries (one pair already failed) to AGM 125Ah giving 500Ah 24V.  I intend to upgrade the solar panels, nominally 3X100W but one failed, to 2X Pan asonic N330 giving 660W (2.1m wide by 1.59m long). So with the excess power I could run the 1.8kw inverter more often to cook (induction hotplate) and make water.  Having read hundreds of articles here, I intend to install a fresh water anchor chain wash and forward deck hose connection (also because excess solar power means excess fresh water).

I will clean the 20 year old water tanks annually with the methods (chlorox for a few days) described in this forum, and install a Seagull or similar water filter with separate faucet for drinking water peace of mind.

I will buy spares for the Onan and Volvo for say 3 years in advance (oil filters, belts, impellors ... anything else?).

I do not intend to replace the 20 year old standing rigging.  It looks OK.  Is this sensible?  She did sail extensively for a couple of years, but at least for the last 8 years was only occasionally day sailed.  (I removed the plastic covers from all of them so the rain washes them.)  Do you tension the standing rigging yourselves and if so, what brand of tensiometer do you use?

Switching all nav lights to LED, deck lights to LEDS, and interior lights too.  I'll also install extra LEDs in the cockpit.

I will install a new canister liferaft built into the guardrails, as neither my wife nor I are particularily strong.  For the same reason I got rid of the heavy 4 stroke outboard with the intention of replacing it with a lighter one, eg 2 stroke ... what do you suggest?  It must be light and easy to start.  I was advised against electric outboards.

One spare Gilles also suggested is a motor, in case eg the outhaul motor fails (ie cleaning the carbon dust does not fix it).  Have these motors ever failed beyond repair?

In terms of electronics I already bought a computer with Maxsea.  But I would somehow also like to have a screen in the cockpit.  How do you guys set that up (e g wifi or hdmi cable from the computer) or do you find chartplotters better?


The SM I have has no storm sail and no way of rigging one provided so far.  I was thinking of simply attaching the storm jib head to a spare halyard from the top of the mast and the storm jib foot to the center cleat; would that be sufficient?


Is 80m chain sufficient?  I have a Spade S140 anchor and the second anchor (with 8m chain) is a 60lbs CQR (unfortunately).  Do you ever actually need to use 2 anchors?  Should I replace the CQR?


Oh, and clean the diesel tank.


Thanks

Eamonn


SM 151, Travel Bug

St Raphael, France

(I am 1000km away)
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cleaning Anchor Chain

eric freedman
 

Duane,

Had you thought of having your chain re-galvanized. I had mine done and it looks like new.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cleaning Anchor Chain

 

 

We're still working on our new-to-us boat, and since we're here for the week I decided it was time to have a look at the anchor chain.  Peg and I lowered it to the dock after disconnecting the anchor.  The last twenty feet or so was heavily encrusted with salt.  It had some sections of heavier rust (seemed like three feet every fifty feet or so), but overall was in pretty good shape.  In hauling it out we had rust raining down on the deck!

 

What worked the easiest (and luckily what I tried first) was to soak the chain in Muriatic Acid (HCL).  Not only did it clean off the salt (which would not yield to a hose), but it did a pretty fair job on the rust...without scrubbing!  All that was needed was a blast from the hose.  Apparently the HCL chemically changes the rust to something else that has little adhesion.

 

I neutralized it with a solution of baking soda (1 pound per gallon) and a lot more of the rust came away.

 

When I finished it was dark, but the chain looked a lot better than it did coming out of the locker.  Tomorrow we're going to vacuum out the chain locker.  Peg said there is about 3" of rust flakes and salt there now.

 

Duane

SM477...Wanderer
Cleaning Anchor Chain

Duane Siegfri
 

We're still working on our new-to-us boat, and since we're here for the week I decided it was time to have a look at the anchor chain.  Peg and I lowered it to the dock after disconnecting the anchor.  The last twenty feet or so was heavily encrusted with salt.  It had some sections of heavier rust (seemed like three feet every fifty feet or so), but overall was in pretty good shape.  In hauling it out we had rust raining down on the deck!


What worked the easiest (and luckily what I tried first) was to soak the chain in Muriatic Acid (HCL).  Not only did it clean off the salt (which would not yield to a hose), but it did a pretty fair job on the rust...without scrubbing!  All that was needed was a blast from the hose.  Apparently the HCL chemically changes the rust to something else that has little adhesion.


I neutralized it with a solution of baking soda (1 pound per gallon) and a lot more of the rust came away.


When I finished it was dark, but the chain looked a lot better than it did coming out of the locker.  Tomorrow we're going to vacuum out the chain locker.  Peg said there is about 3" of rust flakes and salt there now.


Duane

SM477...Wanderer
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations

karkauai
 

Hi and welcome aboard!

I had my standing rigging replaced when the boat was 12 years old, in anticipation of crossing oceans.  The rigging looked good, with only a little rust color at the top of the lower swages.  I cut several of the swages apart and found significant corrosion damage on a few of them.  If you are planning to cross oceans, I would go ahead and replace the rigging.

Have fun with your new girl!  Happy Holidays.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations

 
Congrats on your purchase. We hope to see you out there one day.
 
Regarding the rigging. This is  big expense. We just replaced our 15 year old rigging this year. Our thought process being that if we own the boat and travel for 10 years, we would rather do it now and be the people using it rather than replace it later in our journey and let someone else reap the rewards.  It also gives us peace of mind. When you read about rigging, you will find it is almost impossible to visually inspect it for flaws. By the time you can see the flaw it is serious. Also, if you are in Europe, metric rigging is readily available. We had a hard time finding it in the USA.
 
We carry an extensive supply of parts. I think it is something that is personal depending on where you plan to journey and how long. Things like motors for the sails are expensive and rarely fail. You also have manual backups for these motors. However, if you have the budget, then what the heck.
 
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Super Maramu 2000
Hull #275
www.creampuff.us
Currently cruising:  St Augustine FL
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 4:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations
 
 
Hi

I bought a SM this Spring and intend to set off for a few years when I retire early in a year.  What essential jobs should be done while it is easy to get equipment and qualified installers, before departing?  I am "hands on", so when underway wish to do as much as possible myself, but before I go I have professionals available.

I spoke to Gilles from Karin Team in St Raphael, South France.  He recons that 2 "must haves" for a long trip are:
1) a second bilge pump, already installed and plumbed in, in the engine room, ready to be switched over to replace a failed pump.
2) a spare "drive unit" for the autopilot (not a complete second autopilot).  Just a few screws and 2 wires required to swap it in.

Any comments on that?

I will renew the 8 batteries (one pair already failed) to AGM 125Ah giving 500Ah 24V.  I intend to upgrade the solar panels, nominally 3X100W but one failed, to 2X Panasonic N330 giving 660W (2.1m wide by 1.59m long). So with the excess power I could run the 1.8kw inverter more often to cook (induction hotplate) and make water.  Having read hundreds of articles here, I intend to install a fresh water anchor chain wash and forward deck hose connection (also because excess solar power means excess fresh water).

I will clean the 20 year old water tanks annually with the methods (chlorox for a few days) described in this forum, and install a Seagull or similar water filter with separate faucet for drinking water peace of mind.

I will buy spares for the Onan and Volvo for say 3 years in advance (oil filters, belts, impellors ... anything else?).

I do not intend to replace the 20 year old standing rigging.  It looks OK.  Is this sensible?  She did sail extensively for a couple of years, but at least for the last 8 years was only occasionally day sailed.  (I removed the plastic covers from all of them so the rain washes them.)  Do you tension the standing rigging yourselves and if so, what brand of tensiometer do you use?

Switching all nav lights to LED, deck lights to LEDS, and interior lights too.  I'll also install extra LEDs in the cockpit.

I will install a new canister liferaft built into the guardrails, as neither my wife nor I are particularily strong.  For the same reason I got rid of the heavy 4 stroke outboard with the intention of replacing it with a lighter one, eg 2 stroke ... what do you suggest?  It must be light and easy to start.  I was advised against electric outboards.

One spare Gilles also suggested is a motor, in case eg the outhaul motor fails (ie cleaning the carbon dust does not fix it).  Have these motors ever failed beyond repair?

In terms of electronics I already bought a computer with Maxsea.  But I would somehow also like to have a screen in the cockpit.  How do you guys set that up (eg wifi or hdmi cable from the computer) or do you find chartplotters better?
 
The SM I have has no storm sail and no way of rigging one provided so far.  I was thinking of simply attaching the storm jib head to a spare halyard from the top of the mast and the storm jib foot to the center cleat; would that be sufficient?
 
Is 80m chain sufficient?  I have a Spade S140 anchor and the second anchor (with 8m chain) is a 60lbs CQR (unfortunately).  Do you ever actually need to use 2 anchors?  Should I replace the CQR?
 
Oh, and clean the diesel tank.
 
Thanks
Eamonn
 
SM 151, Travel Bug
St Raphael, France
(I am 1000km away)
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations

Mark Erdos
 

Congrats on your purchase. We hope to see you out there one day.

 

Regarding the rigging. This is  big expense. We just replaced our 15 year old rigging this year. Our thought process being that if we own the boat and travel for 10 years, we would rather do it now and be the people using it rather than replace it later in our journey and let someone else reap the rewards.  It also gives us peace of mind. When you read about rigging, you will find it is almost impossible to visually inspect it for flaws. By the time you can see the flaw it is serious. Also, if you are in Europe, metric rigging is readily available. We had a hard time finding it in the USA.

 

We carry an extensive supply of parts. I think it is something that is personal depending on where you plan to journey and how long. Things like motors for the sails are expensive and rarely fail. You also have manual backups for these motors. However, if you have the budget, then what the heck.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  St Augustine FL

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 4:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations

 

 

Hi

I bought a SM this Spring and intend to set off for a few years when I retire early in a year.  What essential jobs should be done while it is easy to get equipment and qualified installers, before departing?  I am "hands on", so when underway wish to do as much as possible myself, but before I go I have professionals available.

I spoke to Gilles from Karin Team in St Raphael, South France.  He recons that 2 "must haves" for a long trip are:
1) a second bilge pump, already installed and plumbed in, in the engine room, ready to be switched over to replace a failed pump.
2) a spare "drive unit" for the autopilot (not a complete second autopilot).  Just a few screws and 2 wires required to swap it in.

Any comments on that?

I will renew the 8 batteries (one pair already failed) to AGM 125Ah giving 500Ah 24V.  I intend to upgrade the solar panels, nominally 3X100W but one failed, to 2X Panasonic N330 giving 660W (2.1m wide by 1.59m long). So with the excess power I could run the 1.8kw inverter more often to cook (induction hotplate) and make water.  Having read hundreds of articles here, I intend to install a fresh water anchor chain wash and forward deck hose connection (also because excess solar power means excess fresh water).

I will clean the 20 year old water tanks annually with the methods (chlorox for a few days) described in this forum, and install a Seagull or similar water filter with separate faucet for drinking water peace of mind.

I will buy spares for the Onan and Volvo for say 3 years in advance (oil filters, belts, impellors ... anything else?).

I do not intend to replace the 20 year old standing rigging.  It looks OK.  Is this sensible?  She did sail extensively for a couple of years, but at least for the last 8 years was only occasionally day sailed.  (I removed the plastic covers from all of them so the rain washes them.)  Do you tension the standing rigging yourselves and if so, what brand of tensiometer do you use?

Switching all nav lights to LED, deck lights to LEDS, and interior lights too.  I'll also install extra LEDs in the cockpit.

I will install a new canister liferaft built into the guardrails, as neither my wife nor I are particularily strong.  For the same reason I got rid of the heavy 4 stroke outboard with the intention of replacing it with a lighter one, eg 2 stroke ... what do you suggest?  It must be light and easy to start.  I was advised against electric outboards.

One spare Gilles also suggested is a motor, in case eg the outhaul motor fails (ie cleaning the carbon dust does not fix it).  Have these motors ever failed beyond repair?

In terms of electronics I already bought a computer with Maxsea.  But I would somehow also like to have a screen in the cockpit.  How do you guys set that up (eg wifi or hdmi cable from the computer) or do you find chartplotters better?

 

The SM I have has no storm sail and no way of rigging one provided so far.  I was thinking of simply attaching the storm jib head to a spare halyard from the top of the mast and the storm jib foot to the center cleat; would that be sufficient?

 

Is 80m chain sufficient?  I have a Spade S140 anchor and the second anchor (with 8m chain) is a 60lbs CQR (unfortunately).  Do you ever actually need to use 2 anchors?  Should I replace the CQR?

 

Oh, and clean the diesel tank.

 

Thanks

Eamonn

 

SM 151, Travel Bug

St Raphael, France

(I am 1000km away)
Re: "Must Have" spares and preparations

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi Eamonn
 Just to give some info on my experience with  anchors and outboard engines this year in Sicily and Croatia.  As to anchors, The CQR worked fine in the mud at Siracusa, Sicily and that was it.  When it came to rock, grass and sand in Croatia, it was usless. We were never happy at anchor.  We are now looking at the Rocna, Delta and Brugel as a main anchor. but don't get rid of the CQR.  As to the the choice of outboard, we coped quite well with a 3.5 tohatsu 2 stroke, on our 11ft inflatable tender. We had up to 5 people on board in and around the islands of Croatia during the summer and it was well up to the job. Even when we were up S..t creek, when the cam shaft driven water pump key ringed and left me without an engine, it pushed our Santorin along for 2 miles, slowly but without a problem.  A small well maintained  2 stroke engine is a joy when cruising. 
Joe in Dublin for the winter.                   
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Eamonn,

First, congratulations for purchase a Super Maramu and welcome to the group!

About what spare parts to have, it will depends of the type of sailing you plan on doing.
If I were you, I would do like I did. First sail “locally” for a year where parts are available at reasonable price, then based on that stock on them, then do your trip.

If you are just staying within Europe, you can have parts shipped easily.
If you are sailing extensively (to 3rd world or developing countries then you need a lot more… unless shipping cost is irrelevant).

Had my SM(2K) deliver in the US, where I spent 9 months learning the systems.
During that time I saw what failed and bought parts accordingly.
Once I was to the Bahamas, parts cost 2.5 to 3 times what they did in the US (shipping, duty, etc.).

I do have a 2nd bilge pump (not installed) but easily swappable.
I don’t feel it need to be already plumbed as you do have a manual one.
(again if you sail within Europe you can get a spare bilge pump anywhere).
I have rebuild kit for my original bilge pump (Marina ZZ) as well as the back up.

My SM came with 2 autopilot drive (and 1 brain), I had once a failure last May, and thankfully had the I 2nd drive to take over, I would definitely recommend 2 drive (already installed). A second “brain” would be better for extended navigation, especially if you are single handed like I am.

Then from there the list is endless.
What part do I use the most? Fresh water pump.
So I have a spare and rebuild kit for the original and spare (which are the same AMFA 66).
Also have spare pressure plate (Sqare D)

Engine: at the very least for coastal cruising you need: “impeller, belt, water pump, hoses, coolant, oil, oil filter, fuel filter, racor fuel filter, etc.”
For my trip I have 6 year supply of impeller, etc. plus spare starter, solenoid , 4 injectors, thermostat, gasket, radiator cap, fuel pump, etc.
Again the reason is that in the US an impeller cost $20 in the Bahamas it cost $65, so I stock.

Genset: at least for coastal cruising: “impeller, belt, water pump, hoses, coolant, oil, oil filter, fuel filter, etc.”
For my trip: (6 years supply) plus breakers, starter, 3 injectors, heat exchanger, heat exchanger cap, water pump rebuilt kit, pencil zinc, thermostat, gasket, radiator cap, fuel pump, air filter, sensors, etc.
Some breakers were so cheap and light, I opt to have them as they could immobilize the boat for a long time.
Some other parts (like Voltage Regulator and Relay) as I didn’t feel competent to troubleshoot the issue and change them.

Transmission: oil, hoses.

Water maker: Cat pump rebuilt kit, spare belt, pulley free wheel, capacitors, high pressure hoses, quality probe, etc.

Windlass: charbon, oil, rebuilt kit, etc.

Winches: oil, grease, etc.

Air c Conditioning: capacitors, thermostats, pump, rebuilt kit and impeller calpeda pump, etc.

Fridge & Freezer: thermostats, fan, etc.

Bow thruster rebuilt kit (oil seal, oil, donuts, bearing, nylon screws, etc.), sensors, etc.

Amel C Drive: rebuilt kit (oil seal, oil, etc.)

Propeller: zinc anode, Spur anode and rebuilt kit (I have a whole spare Spur, plus spare parts), etc.

Amel parts:

Antal car for at least main (and mizzen)

Instrument parts: switch (for furling, bow thruster, etc.)

Rudder: packing, tool, etc.

Then don’t forget for your annex, local transportation (bicycle), etc..

Outboard: fuel filter, impeller, spark plugs, 2nd fuel hose, cable starter, etc.

Dinghy: Hypalon patches and glue, etc.

If you have the scuba compressor: capacitor, etc.

If you have bicycle onboard: spare brakes, spare tube (I had 14, blow one a month), then the sun damaged my tires (so I have 6 left spare tire), plus UV protection kit.

All that is just top of my head. I hope within the next few months write a complete list of all the parts I purchased (and why) for my trip.


I also have the induction plate (love it)!

Regarding the water tank. First I made the mistake to put filters to remove the chlorine so that I could flush my water maker. Now I put a filter (to remove the chlorine after the fresh water pump) (to flush the water maker).

Seagull is great for the drinking water (forgot to mention I have several filters of these).

All my light (nav, cabin, etc.) have been replaced to LED as well (what a saving on power)

I have a Yamaha Endure 15 HP 2 stroke, it felt perfectly on the lazaretto, also can be store horizontally (unlike the 4 stroke which must be store vertically).

I don’t have these, but agree on having spare motor for outhaul, etc.


I might not be the example to follow for electronics, but originally I wanted the B&G Zeus 12, etc. then for a temporarily solution I am using iPad (with navionics charts) and Bad Elf blue tooth to send the GPS signal to the ipad. For back reason, I have 3 ipad and 3 bad elf… this allow me to be anywhere on the boat or its cockpit and have the (ipad) chart plotter next to me. I am happy with this solution - but this is not the most modern…


I am sure other will contribute more.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Emerald Bay Marina, Great Exumas, Bahamas.




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On Wed, 11/25/15, eamonn.washington@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] "Must Have" spares and preparations
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2015, 3:56 PM


 









Hi

I bought a SM
this Spring and intend to set off for a few years when I
retire early in a year.  What essential jobs should be done
while it is easy to get equipment and qualified installers,
before departing?  I am "hands on", so when
underway wish to do as much as possible myself, but before I
go I have professionals available.

I spoke to Gilles from Karin Team in St
Raphael, South France.  He recons that 2 "must
haves" for a long trip are:
1) a second
bilge pump, already installed and plumbed in, in the engine
room, ready to be switched over to replace a failed pump.
2) a spare "drive unit" for the
autopilot (not a complete second autopilot).  Just a few
screws and 2 wires required to swap it in.

Any comments on that?

I will renew the 8 batteries
(one pair already failed) to AGM 125Ah giving 500Ah 24V.  I
intend to upgrade the solar panels, nominally 3X100W but one
failed, to 2X Panasonic N330 giving 660W (2.1m wide by 1.59m
long). So with the excess power I could run the 1.8kw
inverter more often to cook (induction hotplate) and make
water.  Having read hundreds of articles here, I intend to
install a fresh water anchor chain wash and forward deck
hose connection (also because excess solar power means
excess fresh water).

I will
clean the 20 year old water tanks annually with the methods
(chlorox for a few days) described in this forum, and
install a Seagull or similar water filter with separate
faucet for drinking water peace of mind.

I will buy spares for the Onan and Volvo for
say 3 years in advance (oil filters, belts, impellors ...
anything else?).

I do not
intend to replace the 20 year old standing rigging.  It
looks OK.  Is this sensible?  She did sail extensively for
a couple of years, but at least for the last 8 years was
only occasionally day sailed.  (I removed the plastic
covers from all of them so the rain washes them.)  Do you
tension the standing rigging yourselves and if so, what
brand of tensiometer do you use?

Switching all nav lights to LED, deck lights to
LEDS, and interior lights too.  I'll also install extra
LEDs in the cockpit.

I will
install a new canister liferaft built into the guardrails,
as neither my wife nor I are particularily strong.  For the
same reason I got rid of the heavy 4 stroke outboard with
the intention of replacing it with a lighter one, eg 2
stroke ... what do you suggest?  It must be light and easy
to start.  I was advised against electric outboards.

One spare Gilles also
suggested is a motor, in case eg the outhaul motor fails (ie
cleaning the carbon dust does not fix it).  Have these
motors ever failed beyond repair?

In terms of electronics I already bought a
computer with Maxsea.  But I would somehow also like to
have a screen in the cockpit.  How do you guys set that up
(eg wifi or hdmi cable from the computer) or do you find
chartplotters better?

The SM I have has no storm
sail and no way of rigging one provided so far.  I was
thinking of simply attaching the storm jib head to a spare
halyard from the top of the mast and the storm jib foot to
the center cleat; would that be sufficient?

Is 80m chain
sufficient?  I have a Spade S140 anchor and the second
anchor (with 8m chain) is a 60lbs CQR (unfortunately).  Do
you ever actually need to use 2 anchors?  Should I replace
the CQR?

Oh,
and clean the diesel tank.

ThanksEamonn
SM 151, Travel BugSt Raphael,
France
(I am
1000km away)









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you all for the responses. As an Amel owner for 5 years now, this forum has saved me tens of thousands of dollars and helped me understand these wonderful boats a bit better. 
"Must Have" spares and preparations

eamonn.washington@...
 

Hi

I bought a SM this Spring and intend to set off for a few years when I retire early in a year.  What essential jobs should be done while it is easy to get equipment and qualified installers, before departing?  I am "hands on", so when underway wish to do as much as possible myself, but before I go I have professionals available.

I spoke to Gilles from Karin Team in St Raphael, South France.  He recons that 2 "must haves" for a long trip are:
1) a second bilge pump, already installed and plumbed in, in the engine room, ready to be switched over to replace a failed pump.
2) a spare "drive unit" for the autopilot (not a complete second autopilot).  Just a few screws and 2 wires required to swap it in.

Any comments on that?

I will renew the 8 batteries (one pair already failed) to AGM 125Ah giving 500Ah 24V.  I intend to upgrade the solar panels, nominally 3X100W but one failed, to 2X Panasonic N330 giving 660W (2.1m wide by 1.59m long). So with the excess power I could run the 1.8kw inverter more often to cook (induction hotplate) and make water.  Having read hundreds of articles here, I intend to install a fresh water anchor chain wash and forward deck hose connection (also because excess solar power means excess fresh water).

I will clean the 20 year old water tanks annually with the methods (chlorox for a few days) described in this forum, and install a Seagull or similar water filter with separate faucet for drinking water peace of mind.

I will buy spares for the Onan and Volvo for say 3 years in advance (oil filters, belts, impellors ... anything else?).

I do not intend to replace the 20 year old standing rigging.  It looks OK.  Is this sensible?  She did sail extensively for a couple of years, but at least for the last 8 years was only occasionally day sailed.  (I removed the plastic covers from all of them so the rain washes them.)  Do you tension the standing rigging yourselves and if so, what brand of tensiometer do you use?

Switching all nav lights to LED, deck lights to LEDS, and interior lights too.  I'll also install extra LEDs in the cockpit.

I will install a new canister liferaft built into the guardrails, as neither my wife nor I are particularily strong.  For the same reason I got rid of the heavy 4 stroke outboard with the intention of replacing it with a lighter one, eg 2 stroke ... what do you suggest?  It must be light and easy to start.  I was advised against electric outboards.

One spare Gilles also suggested is a motor, in case eg the outhaul motor fails (ie cleaning the carbon dust does not fix it).  Have these motors ever failed beyond repair?

In terms of electronics I already bought a computer with Maxsea.  But I would somehow also like to have a screen in the cockpit.  How do you guys set that up (eg wifi or hdmi cable from the computer) or do you find chartplotters better?


The SM I have has no storm sail and no way of rigging one provided so far.  I was thinking of simply attaching the storm jib head to a spare halyard from the top of the mast and the storm jib foot to the center cleat; would that be sufficient?


Is 80m chain sufficient?  I have a Spade S140 anchor and the second anchor (with 8m chain) is a 60lbs CQR (unfortunately).  Do you ever actually need to use 2 anchors?  Should I replace the CQR?


Oh, and clean the diesel tank.


Thanks

Eamonn


SM 151, Travel Bug

St Raphael, France

(I am 1000km away)
Re: SM 209 Main Furler

Derick Gates
 

Gary, I know you looked at the brushes, but you may want to be sure that the electrical wires coming from the commutator brushes are intact.  I recently had a broken one that exhibited as a sudden loss of furling after a period of low power furling.

Derick

SM2K#400. Brava
Antigua, Falmoth Harbour
Re: SM 209 Main Furler

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Gary:  A little basic trouble shooting with a multimeter may save you some time and effort.  Do be cautious working around the solenoids as they have large current carrying capacity and you can weld things together very easily.  Turn off the breakers to all the furling solenoids before attempting to remove wires.  

Using your multimeter, verify that you have voltage at the solenoids (contractor)  when the switch is activated at the helm.  If you have voltage there then another common problem at the motor is a dirty commutator.  Upon disassembly of the motor, use some very fine sand paper to clean up the commutator to a shiny bright copper color.  Also, another common motor problem is a broken magnet that can jam in the housing. 

Just some thoughts, 

Gary Silver 
s/v Liahona   Amel SM 2000   Puerto Rico
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

eric freedman
 

Jeff,

I have that tool. For the Amel the packing is so tight I was unable to remove any packing with it.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

 

 

Just to add to the conversation, there is a tool that is specific for the removal of packing. A shipyard would have one available. It is somewhat shaped like a corkscrew, with a thinner and longer screw part, and a longer "T" handle.

One was used successfully to remove the little bit of packing left in the rudder stuffing box of the F/V Alisha J before I ran her down to Shinnecock from Meteghanm NS, Can. Didn't leak a drop, and it was a slow drizzle before that.

The yard was all commercial, and perhaps that is why the tool was used in common practice.

Jeff 54 #14 Spirit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:27 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
To: "amelyachtowners@..."

> Hi Thomas,
> I would only add that turning a sixth of a turn (or two) will
> let you put the securing plate back to its previous location.The
> adjustment is not so accurate...
> Olivier
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:21 AM, "sailormon
> kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]"
> wrote:
>
>
>   As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your
> leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of
> aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the
> photos section.You need a large wrench and there is a small area
> to work.You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align
> the nut with locking plate and you are done.Repacking the rudder
> stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove.
> I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of
> packing.I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is
> already precut, also a spare nut.  It was  suggested by dow
> corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially
> formulated for packing.Fair WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
> Maramu #376  From: amelyachtowners@...
> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box    Just tighten
> the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine  BillBeBe 387  On
> Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman
> wrote:  I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422,
> currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing
> box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read
> every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts"
> can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is
> secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small
> tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for
> a haulout in about 6 months.   My inclination is to give it a
> small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My
> understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be
> done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone
> suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it
> comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm
> aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-
> reacting to small problems. Thanks.   #yiv0867101191
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hawse pipe replacement

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 



Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 24, 2015, at 18:27, rossny@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mike, When I cleaned out the chain locker a couple of years ago I don't remember anything looking amiss. I can open it up and take some pics for you if you want to see what a '89 one looks like. 

Hey, anyone else with an Older Maramu have this happen?
Ross
Maramu #261 1989
Getting cold in NYC
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM 209 Main Furler

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

HI Gary
There is a spare motor on board. 
Did you try to run the motor with no load before you took it apart? 
Are you getting power to the motor? If yes 
If the brushes are good then it's most likely the end bearings. 
Happy Thanksgiving to you both. 
Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 25, 2015, at 03:58, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Mark, that's perfect. I'll get after that and once I get the unit off the day ck and into the cockpit I'll try the application of superior technical knowledge and motor skills necessary to pry it apart :)
Sorry we didn't connect in Hampton. We came down from Galesville, MD on Oct 27 and left with the Salty Dawg Rally on Nov 3rd.

Thanks again!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 209 Main Furler

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Gary,

Sorry you are having issues with the furler, but hopefully it will be an easy fix. If by chance find you have an issue with the gearbox, we carry a complete spare Leroy Somer gearbox, and would be happy to send it your way should you need it. Liz and I should be arriving in Fajardo, Puerto Rico about noon, after cruising the Spanish Virgins for the last couple of weeks. 

Have a great Thanksgiving, and let us know if we can help. 

Steve and Liz
Aloha SM 72
Fajardo, PR


On Wednesday, November 25, 2015, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Mark, that's perfect. I'll get after that and once I get the unit off the day ck and into the cockpit I'll try the application of superior technical knowledge and motor skills necessary to pry it apart :)
Sorry we didn't connect in Hampton. We came down from Galesville, MD on Oct 27 and left with the Salty Dawg Rally on Nov 3rd.

Thanks again!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rebuild Cat pump directions.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Great info Eric!

Thanks.

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Tue, 11/24/15, sailormon kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rebuild Cat pump directions.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 10:06 PM


 









https://www.autowashonline.com/Customer/auwama/customerpages/specpages/3FRSvc.pdf  For those of you who
are interested in rebuilding your Cat 160 LPH
pump.Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376
 









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Re: SM 209 Main Furler

Gary Wells
 

Thanks Mark, that's perfect. I'll get after that and once I get the unit off the day ck and into the cockpit I'll try the application of superior technical knowledge and motor skills necessary to pry it apart :)
Sorry we didn't connect in Hampton. We came down from Galesville, MD on Oct 27 and left with the Salty Dawg Rally on Nov 3rd.

Thanks again!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box

Beaute Olivier
 

Hi Thomas,

I would only add that turning a sixth of a turn (or two) will let you put the securing plate back to its previous location.
The adjustment is not so accurate...

Olivier



On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:21 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
As Bill mentioned a slight turn on the nut will stop your leak. I would have someone cut a short wrench for you out of aluminum plate. There is a photo on kimberlites section in the photos section.
You need a large wrench and there is a small area to work.
You just turn the nut till the leak stops and then align the nut with locking plate and you are done.
Repacking the rudder stuffing box is tedious as the packing is rather hard to remove. I used a flat screwdriver as a chisel to remove all 3 rings of packing.
I would suggest you get the packing from Amel as it is already precut, also a spare nut.
 
It was  suggested by dow corning  to use Molykote silicone grease  it is specially formulated for packing.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stuffing box
 
 
Just tighten the nut about 1/4 turn and you will be fine
 
Bill
BeBe 387
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:53 PM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 
I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422, currently in Bonaire. I have a very slow drip from the stuffing box that increases somewhat in sailing conditions. I have read every post twice regarding this topic and hope the "old salts" can shed some light on this. My nylon nut under the quadrant is secured in place by a siezing plate (two screws) so a small tightening turn would involve re-siting this plate. I'm due for a haulout in about 6 months. 
 
My inclination is to give it a small tightening turn and see if that improves things. My understanding is that with some finesse, this maneuver can be done without removing the quadrant and attachments. Can someone suggest a grease or materials used in repacking this if/when it comes to that ? If a better approach exists I'm all ears. I'm aware that a lot of things get broken on boats when over-reacting to small problems. Thanks.
 
Rebuild Cat pump directions.

eric freedman
 

https://www.autowashonline.com/Customer/auwama/customerpages/specpages/3FRSvc.pdf

 

For those of you who are interested in rebuilding your Cat 160 LPH pump.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 
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