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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Autohelm ST 7000 compatibility with Raymarine

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Paul,

We have the following setup:

-a 7000 on the wheel.
- an ACU 400 with hydraulic drive… giving us loads of problems as it was installed … where you know.

Plan on someone else if you are wise.

Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 30 Nov 2015, at 21:19, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you BilI!

Will follow up on that
Paul on S/Y Kerpa
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

On Ocean Pearl the plug is central and sufficiently far back to be just above the water ine. However of course when sailing in a seaway the waves slap up under the stern all the time. I assumed when new it was a clever little plug with a one way valve to let water out but not in. Ours let it in so I put a blob of silicone over it and sponge out any water that comes off the out board or other items stored.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2015 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

 
Duane,

The plug is above the waterline. I have been aware of it since we have owned BeBe and I have never removed it. There is no need to remove it. I assume that it is there for a purpose other than a drain.

I believe that water gets into the "dead body" compartment a/k/a lazarette from a number of sources:
  • Outboard engine - always some leaks out under sail
  • Leaking lid gaskets
  • Rubber Plug not placed to seal the electrical line slot
  • Leaking seals on the rear bumper
  • Water hose, filters and other items
  • Condensation - in some parts of the world this is a big contributor because that aft bulkhead is not insulated and running heat, A/C, or just a difference in temperature can produce a lot of condensation
I simply use a sponge to remove it. But I understand that Bob Rossi uses a wet/dry vac to suck it out. ;) 

Bill
BeBe 387



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 6:47 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Dear Duane,
                 your plug isn't leaking. It is there to release any water that has gathered in the lowest part of the lazerette, often from your outboard motor.
Best not to remove it when the boat is in the water as it has a very fine plastic thread and it is very difficult to screw the plug back in correctly.
When next checking the lazerette taste the water and establish if it rain water or salt water.
Then you can work backwards and find the cause.
Best regards,
Trevor 
Seafever SM425
Mexico
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water ingress near mizzen mast.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Thank you for the suggestion Jim.  However, the water pools in the lowest corner of the carpeted area just port forward of the aft toilet/shower.  

I will remove the mirror located on the aft face of the bulkhead and see what I can find.

Thanks for your thoughts.


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, Amel Super Maramu 007


On 30 Nov 2015, at 21:16, ldesalvo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It is possible that your water may be coming from the aft
air-conditioner not draining properly.
We had a crack in the drain pan of the AC and the water collected where
you have indicated.

Good luck
Jim DeSalvo, SV/Liebling, SM #207

On 2015-11-30 06:08, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
> Hello Gang,
>
> We are quite anal about keeping 100% 0f the water outside...
>
> We have succeeded in fixing all leaks so far but now we have a
> mysterious entry outside the aft heads at the corner with the
> bulkhead. We have an aft facing mirror filling the bulkhead from port
> of the watertight door to the fore/aft partition to enclose the
> shower.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jean-Pierre Germain
>
> SY Eleuthera, SM 007

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Autohelm ST 7000 compatibility with Raymarine

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you BilI!
Will follow up on that
Paul on S/Y Kerpa
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water ingress near mizzen mast.

ldesalvo@...
 

It is possible that your water may be coming from the aft air-conditioner not draining properly.
We had a crack in the drain pan of the AC and the water collected where you have indicated.

Good luck
Jim DeSalvo, SV/Liebling, SM #207



On 2015-11-30 06:08, jgermain@xs4all.nl [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Hello Gang,
We are quite anal about keeping 100% 0f the water outside...
We have succeeded in fixing all leaks so far but now we have a
mysterious entry outside the aft heads at the corner with the
bulkhead. We have an aft facing mirror filling the bulkhead from port
of the watertight door to the fore/aft partition to enclose the
shower.
Does anyone have suggestions?
Kind regards,
Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
----
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Duane,

The plug is above the waterline. I have been aware of it since we have owned BeBe and I have never removed it. There is no need to remove it. I assume that it is there for a purpose other than a drain.

I believe that water gets into the "dead body" compartment a/k/a lazarette from a number of sources:
  • Outboard engine - always some leaks out under sail
  • Leaking lid gaskets
  • Rubber Plug not placed to seal the electrical line slot
  • Leaking seals on the rear bumper
  • Water hose, filters and other items
  • Condensation - in some parts of the world this is a big contributor because that aft bulkhead is not insulated and running heat, A/C, or just a difference in temperature can produce a lot of condensation
I simply use a sponge to remove it. But I understand that Bob Rossi uses a wet/dry vac to suck it out. ;) 

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 6:47 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Duane,

                 your plug isn't leaking. It is there to release any water that has gathered in the lowest part of the lazerette, often from your outboard motor.
Best not to remove it when the boat is in the water as it has a very fine plastic thread and it is very difficult to screw the plug back in correctly.
When next checking the lazerette taste the water and establish if it rain water or salt water.
Then you can work backwards and find the cause.
Best regards,
Trevor 
Seafever SM425
Mexico
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Dear Duane,
                 your plug isn't leaking. It is there to release any water that has gathered in the lowest part of the lazerette, often from your outboard motor.
Best not to remove it when the boat is in the water as it has a very fine plastic thread and it is very difficult to screw the plug back in correctly.
When next checking the lazerette taste the water and establish if it rain water or salt water.
Then you can work backwards and find the cause.
Best regards,
Trevor 
Seafever SM425
Mexico
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Autohelm ST 7000 compatibility with Raymarine

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

There is a Raymarine technician in the US that several Amel owners have used. He sells on eBay and delvers worldwide. He also repairs and refurbishes Raymarine products. Contact Dan at C250"at"mydurango.net. Tell him what you have like Course Computer (number?), 7000 (+ ?) control head, fluxgate compass, rudder reference, a Type 2 long linear drive and a type 2 rotary drive. You do have 24 volts, right?

Tell him what you want to do.

We have ready to install the following:
  • Course Computer - Dan refurbished for me
  • 7001+ Control Head - Dan refurbished for me
  • 6001+ Control Head - Bought used from Dan (do not really need this one)
  • Rudder Reference - Bought new from Dan
  • Fluxgate compass - Bought new from Dan
We have 2 drives with an A/B switch. They are:
Raymarine M81134 Type 2 Long Linear Drive 24 Volt 
Raymarine M81137 Type 2 Type 2 Rotary Drive 

The course computers we have are: 
Raymarine 400G AST Autopilot Computer E12092 SN0720061 Raymarine S3G Course Computer

Everything above is compatible.

Tell Dan that Bill Rouse on BeBe referred you and that you are a friend...hopefully that will get you something extra.

Bill
BeBe 387



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:57 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On our Amel SM 2000 from 1999 #259 we have an Autohelm ST7000 with two drive units, the roto drive direct behind the steering wheel , and the linear drive on the quadrant.

We would like to have a full dual system. i.e.

a second control unit.                        Is Raytheon Raymarine ST7000+ Autopilot Control Unit compatible?

a second course computer 

a Gyro plus, today we only have the flux gate compass.

I’m looking at eBay and have found some Raymarine gears that might work with the Autohelm ST700.

Is there any of you who know what Raymarine things that correspond to the above? 

Paul on S/Y Kerpa Amel SM#259
Re: 1987 AMEL Outhaul gearbox

morningdove@...
 

I also posted picture of the gearbox in photos, SV Morning Dove
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

As I recall it is plastic with an O ring around the top before the thread starts

 

Andrew

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:18 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

 

 

I suppose it is possible that the plug is leaking.  Do you recall if it is plastic?  Did it have an O-ring or some other type of seal? 

Duane
1987 AMEL Outhaul gearbox

morningdove@...
 

I need the exploded view for a 1987 Maramu outhaul gearbox for assembly. The latter Maramu has a Leroy Somer unit but I think this is a different manufacture. Upon disassembly the aluminum collar was destroyed. Had a new on machined and during assembly I want to make sure all is correct.

 

If any can help with an exploded view of this earlier gearbox I'd appreciate it.

 

Thanks

 

Bruce Moroney
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Duane Siegfri
 

I suppose it is possible that the plug is leaking.  Do you recall if it is plastic?  Did it have an O-ring or some other type of seal? 

Duane
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Duane

 

Yes that is correct – I might add I didn’t do this the first time until I had verified that it was actually above the water line as I had the same thoughts as you!

 

I don’t think it is mentioned in the owner’s manual

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

 

 

Andrew,

Thanks for your reply.

I didn't find a mention of this plug in the Owners Manual.  Do I understand you to say it is meant to drain the aft lazarette? One just unscrews it, allowing the compartment to drain and then screw it back in?

Duane
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Duane Siegfri
 

Andrew,

Thanks for your reply.

I didn't find a mention of this plug in the Owners Manual.  Do I understand you to say it is meant to drain the aft lazarette? One just unscrews it, allowing the compartment to drain and then screw it back in?

Duane
Autohelm ST 7000 compatibility with Raymarine

Paul Osterberg
 

On our Amel SM 2000 from 1999 #259 we have an Autohelm ST7000 with two drive units, the roto drive direct behind the steering wheel , and the linear drive on the quadrant.

We would like to have a full dual system. i.e.

a second control unit.                        Is Raytheon Raymarine ST7000+ Autopilot Control Unit compatible?

a second course computer 

a Gyro plus, today we only have the flux gate compass.

I’m looking at eBay and have found some Raymarine gears that might work with the Autohelm ST700.

Is there any of you who know what Raymarine things that correspond to the above? 

Paul on S/Y Kerpa Amel SM#259
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

One our SM the plug is just behind the bulkhead on the starboard side in the lazarette in the well where the outboard propeller tends to sit when it is in the lazarette – it is just above the waterline and allows drainage of the lazarette. The plug had a plastic vertical fin to hold to turn, but we found this twisted off and so we fixed a piece of wood screwed from above to give a better hold of the plug. I think someone mentioned in a previous post they found that water came in from around the bolts holding the bumper on when under way and so they re-seating the bumper with sealant which cured the problem.

 

Andrew

 

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] aft lazarette hull plug

 

 

I'm getting some leakage into the aft lazarette (several quarts over a two month period). I saw some discussion here a few months ago (and can't find it now) about a drain plug on the starboard side in the aft lazarette.  There is a round "thing" that is likely the plug on stb. and near the forward bulkhead.

How does one go about replacing it?  Is this a spare part from Amel?

Why would Amel put a drain plug below the water line? 

Duane
Wanderer -  SM#477

 

 

by the way I was curious about the origin of the name "Lazarette", and this is from Wikipedia:


The name derives from the biblical story of "Lazarus". On the old square-rigged sailing ships it was located in the bow of the ship. The original purpose was to store the bodies of important passengers or crew who had died on the voyage, (lesser seamen would be buried at sea). It was a large locker obviously, and was situated at the bow in order that the stench of rotting flesh was blown away from the vessel rather than across the decks. (The wind cannot come from the front of the ship whilst sailing.) All that remains from these origins is that it is still generally the largest locker on a boat, and it's still known as the "Lazarette".

 
aft lazarette hull plug

Duane Siegfri
 

I'm getting some leakage into the aft lazarette (several quarts over a two month period). I saw some discussion here a few months ago (and can't find it now) about a drain plug on the starboard side in the aft lazarette.  There is a round "thing" that is likely the plug on stb. and near the forward bulkhead.

How does one go about replacing it?  Is this a spare part from Amel?

Why would Amel put a drain plug below the water line? 

Duane
Wanderer -  SM#477



by the way I was curious about the origin of the name "Lazarette", and this is from Wikipedia:


The name derives from the biblical story of "Lazarus". On the old square-rigged sailing ships it was located in the bow of the ship. The original purpose was to store the bodies of important passengers or crew who had died on the voyage, (lesser seamen would be buried at sea). It was a large locker obviously, and was situated at the bow in order that the stench of rotting flesh was blown away from the vessel rather than across the decks. (The wind cannot come from the front of the ship whilst sailing.) All that remains from these origins is that it is still generally the largest locker on a boat, and it's still known as the "Lazarette".
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How to remove steering wheel

Olivier Beaute
 

Hi Alain,

bear in mind that Peregrinus wheel is not made of stainless steel (but aluminum and/or fiberglass) and may not stand the claws of the puller...

Olivier
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How to remove steering wheel

alainfeuillet@...
 

Good evening,
an altenative to Olivier approach is to go to your neighbour mechanic shop and borrow a big bearing puller, preferably but not mandatorily three legged, for 2 minutes. Without effort and with no risk of damaging thread and nut, you will extract the wheel. Done two years ago in Marmaris on Pilgrim hull number 26.
Fair winds.
Alain.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water ingress near mizzen mast.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

One suggestion is that the small amount of water that will get inside the mast will run down along the wires, and the wires are inside a channel right where you are discussing. It is easy to inspect the channel. Open the channel by removing the three wood screws on the piece of wood that is below the port. This piece of mahogany plywood should be about 14cm high and about 130cm long. Remove it and inspect...if it is dry place plenty of paper towels in this are to inspect later. There is also an inspection port inside the head on the bulkhead located near the upper right corner of the mirror (facing). Check it out and do the same.

If you added something to the mizzen, it might be possible that the entry hole needs calking. I just added a speaker/fog horn wired through the the hole in the mizzen that the radar wires go through. I watched the professional run the wires, then stopped him from just coming down. I sent him up some silicone sealer to seal the hole...You have to supervise everyone, but you know that.

If the leak is appearing near the floor level, it is possible that the fiberglass floor needs re-calking to the wall. If you replaced the wall covering, be sure to re-caulk to the fiberglass pan..

Bill
BeBe 387

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:08 PM, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Gang,


We are quite anal about keeping 100% 0f the water outside...


We have succeeded in fixing all leaks so far but now we have a mysterious entry outside the aft heads at the corner with the bulkhead.  We have an aft facing mirror filling the bulkhead from port of the watertight door to the fore/aft partition to enclose the shower.


Does anyone have suggestions?


Kind regards,


Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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