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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Ben
We have a Rocna 40 KG and it fits perfectly. We have 3 rollers and it fits on the starboard side. When mooring we lift the Rocna onto the deck so it does not chafe or get caught on the mooring line. We love our Rocna and have had it for 7 years.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in Trinidad


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:56:22 -0800
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 
La Bella Vita 
SM #347




Re: Washing powder or liquid washing soap for Thompson clothes washers in SM?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

On Peregrinus we use those dissolving transparent plastic pellets containing detergent and clothes softener.  One per wash, never more.  

In the U.S., Tide brand.  In Europe, Ariel brand.  They are exactly the same, made by P&G world-wide.  

In any event, in the U.S. we would use any "H-E" ("high-efficiency") laundry detergent, as that is U.S.-speak for Euro-style vertical drum washers such as the Thomson.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)
Benalmádena


Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

In 2012, we tried a Rocna on the starboard anchor roller while keeping the factory FOB on the port anchor roller.  Major conflict, the Rocna was not able to fully retract and settle and just hanged out dangerously.

The Rocna was returned the same day and a Delta 40Kg installed instead.  There is minor conflict with the FOB.  The conflict is so minor as to be meaningless.  Deltas are "2nd and half"-generation technology, and therefore obsolete by modern standards.  We've since used the Delta to anchor out about 500 nights, I'd say.  We dragged a number of times during our first year cruising, so we use a Garmin hand-held as anchor alarm.   

For peace of mind, we would prefer a Rocna, a Spade, or one of those cool-looking Euro Rocna-look-alikes Amel now installs, but things are what they are.

We've never used the FOB, even though SM2K #350 is one of the few to have a factory-installed second gypsy exclusively dedicated to the port anchor.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K #350
Benalmádena


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

karkauai
 

Gary is right, same thing on Kristy.  Run your mooring line over the second roller.
Kent


On Dec 31, 2015, at 2:42 AM, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes, fits nicely on hull #209 without mods. What you will find is that the Rocna has sharp edges that will chafe the bridle at a mooring. I chose to run the mooring lines through the 2nd anchor roller to keep them away from the anchor's spade.


Gary W.
SM 209, "Adagio"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

karkauai
 

I have a Rocna 40 on SM243, Ben.  It fit perfectly and snugs up on the roller without a mm to spare.  I've never come unhooked with this anchor, which I have affectionately named "Rocky".
Kent


On Dec 30, 2015, at 6:56 PM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 

La Bella Vita 

SM #347



Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Gary Wells
 

Yes, fits nicely on hull #209 without mods. What you will find is that the Rocna has sharp edges that will chafe the bridle at a mooring. I chose to run the mooring lines through the 2nd anchor roller to keep them away from the anchor's spade.

Gary W.
SM 209, "Adagio"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replacement Microwave

eric freedman
 

I just saw this in the Panasonic manual—quite interesting with respect to the width —I wonder how they do it—Must be a special Japanese trick

 

Exterior Dimemsions (W×H×D)

525×310×414 mm

Interior Dimensions (W×H×D)

539×247×362 mm

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replacement Microwave

 

 

My microwave bit the dust and I saw a post from SM88 as to a replacement microwave.

My hull is 376,Anyone with a hull number close to mind would you mind to please measure your microwave and see  if it is near the dimensions on the suggested Panasonic one measuring

Exterior Dimensions (W×H×D)

525×310×414 mm

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Replacement Microwave

eric freedman
 

My microwave bit the dust and I saw a post from SM88 as to a replacement microwave.

My hull is 376,Anyone with a hull number close to mind would you mind to please measure your microwave and see  if it is near the dimensions on the suggested Panasonic one measuring

Exterior Dimensions (W×H×D)

525×310×414 mm

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What to order from Amel.

eric freedman
 

I do not know the length of your dipstick, however if it is Plexiglas with holes in it and about 2 meters long, it will cost a fortune to FedEx it as it is so long.

If it is, I would suggest you go to a place that sell Plexiglas and have them cut a strip for you.

You can use the old stick as a template.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 3:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] What to order from Amel.

 

 

We are planning to redo the rigging this spring and will order the parts from AMCO/Amel

 

there are a few other items we need, such as the fuel tank stick....probably will service the winches and windlass, ...bow thruster.   

 

What other parts should i order from Amel (ie can only get from amel) as long as i need to pay shipping.  1993 Amel Santorin. 


Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Has anyone successfully installed a Rocna 40 on a SM with dual bow rollers?  I'm looking at a 33 or 40 kg Rocna for our boat 


Ben Driver 

La Bella Vita 

SM #347



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Speed

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Bill yes we sailed up from Grenada in 2.5 day run on a nice reach. Due to some crew schedule issues we shall layup here for a few weeks and continue north toward Bermuda saying in the warm waters on the easterly trades before turning left to Norfolk to clear in. We have made a few repairs before starting out she a good old boat that with some TLC will do Jay well. 
Happy New Years

Regards
Capt Richard Piller
603-767-5330

On Dec 20, 2015, at 09:41, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Jay,

You are not going to find (m)any racers in the Amel Yacht Owners Group. Most people that buy Amels don't race them, but it is a wonderful downwind boat for crossing oceans.

Has Captain Pillar left Grenada in your newly acquired Mango?

Bill
BeBe 387

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:15 PM, J Wagamon jwagam@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Anybody know the PHRF and max hull speed on the Amel Mango? US Sailing does not list it.

Thanks
Jay



What to order from Amel.

ericmeury@...
 

We are planning to redo the rigging this spring and will order the parts from AMCO/Amel


there are a few other items we need, such as the fuel tank stick....probably will service the winches and windlass, ...bow thruster.   


What other parts should i order from Amel (ie can only get from amel) as long as i need to pay shipping.  1993 Amel Santorin. 


essential spares

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Starter motors are essential spares. They are 100 dollars when you don't need one and 1000 dollars from the official Yanmar dealer when you do and he knows that you are stuck.

All learnt the hard way.

Best wishes to all of the group for 2016.

Trevor

Seafever

SM 425 Redline 2004

For sale 

$295k

Mexico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

eric freedman
 

You might consider having a spare starter –they are inexpensive if not sold by Yanmar. Just put it in and if it works then send the old one out to be rebuilt. I believe it is either the isolated ground solenoid, the switch relay or the starter solenoid mounted on the solenoid.

A bit of Corrosion x would also help on the connections.

However I believe it is one of the relays or solenoid since it works when it is hot.

But all the possible solutions have been posted as far as I can see.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:33 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

 

 

First thing to do is to check, clean, and tighten ALL connections between the battery and starter. A friend of mine who is a diesel mechanic says it the most common problem with a slow starting diesel.
Bob KAIMI SM 429


Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

rossirossix4
 

First thing to do is to check, clean, and tighten ALL connections between the battery and starter. A friend of mine who is a diesel mechanic says it the most common problem with a slow starting diesel.
Bob KAIMI SM 429


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] genoa furler holding plate

Donato Valente
 

Very grateful to all of you. Thanks for your precious support.
My partner is dealing with the delivery captain. Beside the 'loss' of the anchors, the ssb antenna has been found broken in two pieces (he says by a huge wave), about six boxes of cuban cigars found empty (he says the US coast guard from helicopter flying around the boat made him scared.. and what's the first thing you do when you're scared ? of course throw the cigars into the water !!!) Last but not least my friend saw a big mouse travelling on the deck. Let me say that at least the mouse is not his fault .
Thank you again

Donato 
SM2000 Ocean Bird hull nr. 468



On 26 December 2015 at 19:46, ing.d.valente@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi,

will appreciate receiving your opinions about a serious problem to our SM 2000 presently at Fort Lauderdale,

Will try posting a picture that will explain the problem better than my words.

The steel plate holding and fixing the genoa furling motor to the deck has been found aft bent.

I don't have sufficient information on how and when it happened. My co-owner is on the boat and trying to understand the problem and talking to the skipper who transferred the boat from Cayman to Fort Lauderdale.

The only information I have is that the professional skipper said that he found rough sea, and, by the way, he said that at arrival he found that two anchors were missing !

But that is another topic.

My first assumption was that the genoa  furler has been accidentally used with the jib sheet still on the winch; but apparently no visible damage was found on the sheet ring on the genoa.

I can't think to another reason.

I think also that the plate must be replaced, since have no confidence in straightening the old one.

Hope the problem is clear.

Thanks for your opinions.

Will try to post a photo, under album name Ocean Bird (I've never done before)


All the best 

Donato


SM 2000 - Ocean Bird n. 468

in Fort Lauderdale


 




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

eric freedman
 

Check the starter solenoid for the ground connect—the gold thing on the forward port  side of the engine.

Depress the black button on the top.

If that does not work try starting the engine while someone shorts out the starter solenoid on the starter motor.

That should start the engine.

 

There is also a black relay that connects to the starter switch near the gold solenoid that might be bad.

\Fair Winds,

Eric

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

 

 

Hello,

 

Our Yanmar is no longer starting at the first ignition attempt.  The problem began a few weeks ago, very intermittently, very light (it would start at the second attempt).

 

It now takes 3, 4, up to 10 attempts for it to start, when cold.  

 

When the engine is warm, it has so far always started at the 1st attempt.

 

You can hear the starting engine do a very tiny fraction of a turn, and then stop.  Voltage drops to zero on the voltage indicator at every unsuccessful start attempt.

 

This weekend, we installed a brand new Varta battery, as a precautionary measure (the old battery was 4.5 years old).  No impact on the situation, which remains the same, or worsening.

 

Cheerio,

 

s/v Peregrinus

SM2K #350 (2002)

docked at Benalmádena (between Marbella and Málaga)

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

My Yanmar had a several month history of erratic  starting and then finally refused to start.  It was nothing more serious than a $75 electric starter relay (not the  solenoid ) .  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:03 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

One more thought: Check the battery neg connection on the engine block and make sure it is clean. It is located just forward of the starter on the engine block. Some corrosion here could cause the issues you describe.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Green Turtle Cay – Abacos Islands - Bahamas

From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:58 AM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Firstly, be careful cranking an engine that does not fire as the engine will pump seawater in but not out. It is possible to fill the water lift muffler and have seawater back up into the turbocharger and exhaust. Typically you do not want to crank for more than 30-45 seconds before opening the drain valve in the water lift muffler.

My initial thought is your starter is failing. It takes much less cranking power to start a warm engine. The fact the engine runs once started lends me to believe not much else is wrong. An aftermarket starter is available on e-bay for about US$60. I have a 4JH4-HTE and found this unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-S114-815-S114-817-129242-77010-3JH3-3JH3E-18219-/271088089891?hash=item3f1e1bfb23:g:-CsAAOSwaNBUi3Um <http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-S114-815-S114-817-129242-77010-3JH3-3JH3E-18219-/271088089891?hash=item3f1e1bfb23:g:-CsAAOSwaNBUi3Um&vxp=mtr> &vxp=mtr The unit is made by Hitachi model# S114-815. Do an ebay search for “Hitachi S114-815” and you should find one in Spain on eBay or Amazon. Buy two and keep one in your spare parts box.

The starter is held on by 2 bolts. It is a little tricky to get to. Removing the after cooler really helps. Don’t forget to disconnect the engine start battery!

Hope this helps

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Green Turtle Cay – Abacos Islands - Bahamas

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:51 AM, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <mailto:svperegrinus@...%20[amelyachtowners]> " <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello,

Our Yanmar is no longer starting at the first ignition attempt. The problem began a few weeks ago, very intermittently, very light (it would start at the second attempt).

It now takes 3, 4, up to 10 attempts for it to start, when cold.

When the engine is warm, it has so far always started at the 1st attempt.

You can hear the starting engine do a very tiny fraction of a turn, and then stop. Voltage drops to zero on the voltage indicator at every unsuccessful start attempt.

This weekend, we installed a brand new Varta battery, as a precautionary measure (the old battery was 4.5 years old). No impact on the situation, which remains the same, or worsening.

Cheerio,

s/v Peregrinus

SM2K #350 (2002)

docked at Benalmádena (between Marbella and Málaga)




FW: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Mark Erdos
 

One more thought: Check the battery neg connection on the engine block and make sure it is clean. It is located just forward of the starter on the engine block. Some corrosion here could cause the issues you describe.







With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Green Turtle Cay – Abacos Islands - Bahamas





From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:58 AM
To: 'amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP



Firstly, be careful cranking an engine that does not fire as the engine will pump seawater in but not out. It is possible to fill the water lift muffler and have seawater back up into the turbocharger and exhaust. Typically you do not want to crank for more than 30-45 seconds before opening the drain valve in the water lift muffler.



My initial thought is your starter is failing. It takes much less cranking power to start a warm engine. The fact the engine runs once started lends me to believe not much else is wrong. An aftermarket starter is available on e-bay for about US$60. I have a 4JH4-HTE and found this unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-S114-815-S114-817-129242-77010-3JH3-3JH3E-18219-/271088089891?hash=item3f1e1bfb23:g:-CsAAOSwaNBUi3Um <http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-S114-815-S114-817-129242-77010-3JH3-3JH3E-18219-/271088089891?hash=item3f1e1bfb23:g:-CsAAOSwaNBUi3Um&vxp=mtr> &vxp=mtr The unit is made by Hitachi model# S114-815. Do an ebay search for “Hitachi S114-815” and you should find one in Spain on eBay or Amazon. Buy two and keep one in your spare parts box.



The starter is held on by 2 bolts. It is a little tricky to get to. Removing the after cooler really helps. Don’t forget to disconnect the engine start battery!



Hope this helps









With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Green Turtle Cay – Abacos Islands - Bahamas





On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:51 AM, "svperegrinus@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <mailto:svperegrinus@yahoo.com%20[amelyachtowners]> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





Hello,



Our Yanmar is no longer starting at the first ignition attempt. The problem began a few weeks ago, very intermittently, very light (it would start at the second attempt).



It now takes 3, 4, up to 10 attempts for it to start, when cold.



When the engine is warm, it has so far always started at the 1st attempt.



You can hear the starting engine do a very tiny fraction of a turn, and then stop. Voltage drops to zero on the voltage indicator at every unsuccessful start attempt.



This weekend, we installed a brand new Varta battery, as a precautionary measure (the old battery was 4.5 years old). No impact on the situation, which remains the same, or worsening.



Cheerio,



s/v Peregrinus

SM2K #350 (2002)

docked at Benalmádena (between Marbella and Málaga)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Mark Erdos
 

Firstly, be careful cranking an engine that does not fire as the engine will pump seawater in but not out. It is possible to fill the water lift muffler and have seawater back up into the turbocharger and exhaust. Typically you do not want to crank for more than 30-45 seconds before opening the drain valve in the water lift muffler.



My initial thought is your starter is failing. It takes much less cranking power to start a warm engine. The fact the engine runs once started lends me to believe not much else is wrong. An aftermarket starter is available on e-bay for about US$60. I have a 4JH4-HTE and found this unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-S114-815-S114-817-129242-77010-3JH3-3JH3E-18219-/271088089891?hash=item3f1e1bfb23:g:-CsAAOSwaNBUi3Um <http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Starter-S114-815-S114-817-129242-77010-3JH3-3JH3E-18219-/271088089891?hash=item3f1e1bfb23:g:-CsAAOSwaNBUi3Um&vxp=mtr> &vxp=mtr The unit is made by Hitachi model# S114-815. Do an ebay search for “Hitachi S114-815” and you should find one in Spain on eBay or Amazon. Buy two and keep one in your spare parts box.



The starter is held on by 2 bolts. It is a little tricky to get to. Removing the after cooler really helps. Don’t forget to disconnect the engine start battery!



Hope this helps









With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Green Turtle Cay – Abacos Islands - Bahamas

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:51 AM, "svperegrinus@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





Hello,



Our Yanmar is no longer starting at the first ignition attempt. The problem began a few weeks ago, very intermittently, very light (it would start at the second attempt).



It now takes 3, 4, up to 10 attempts for it to start, when cold.



When the engine is warm, it has so far always started at the 1st attempt.



You can hear the starting engine do a very tiny fraction of a turn, and then stop. Voltage drops to zero on the voltage indicator at every unsuccessful start attempt.



This weekend, we installed a brand new Varta battery, as a precautionary measure (the old battery was 4.5 years old). No impact on the situation, which remains the same, or worsening.



Cheerio,



s/v Peregrinus

SM2K #350 (2002)

docked at Benalmádena (between Marbella and Málaga)











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