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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill.  Pretty simple tool that could be easily made by any machine shop.
Kent


On Jan 5, 2016, at 12:33 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent & Derick,


Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:57 PM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Derick,

As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?

Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.
Thanks,
Kent



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Magnificent, How very Amel. As with all pullers, when its loaded up tapping with a hammer helps the release.

 Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl



From: "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

 
Bill,
Looks pretty simple to make.
Eric
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck
 
 
Kent & Derick,
 
 
Bill
BeBe 387
 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:57 PM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Derick,
As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?
 
Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.
Thanks,
Kent
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes, any machine shop should be able to make this.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:43 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

Looks pretty simple to make.

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

 

 

Kent & Derick,

 

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:57 PM, k arkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Derick,

As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?

 

Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.

Thanks,

Kent

 



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

eric freedman
 

Bill,

Looks pretty simple to make.

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

 

 

Kent & Derick,

 

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:57 PM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Derick,

As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?

 

Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.

Thanks,

Kent

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent & Derick,


Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:57 PM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Derick,

As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?

Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.
Thanks,
Kent



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

karkauai
 

Good idea Eric.  Was wondering what the Amel tool looks like and how they approached the problem.
Kent


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

eric freedman
 

Kent,

I always drop the motor twice a year (also the pin in the outhaul- I use anti seize for that) and load up the motor shaft and the spline in the thruster with waterproof grease. I only drop it about 6 inches. I have been doing this since reading the first horror story.

The idea of a chain wrench around the motor and a piece of pipe sounds like a great idea if there was a problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 10:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

 

 

Hi Derick,

As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?

 

Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.

Thanks,

Kent


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

karkauai
 

Hi Derick,
As usual I'm having trouble finding the pic of the bow thruster removal tool.  Do you know where to find it?

Mine has always come apart easily, but it sounds like something it would be nice to have aboard.
Thanks,
Kent


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

karkauai
 

Hi Mark.
I believe that the solenoid in Bill's pic is the one that isolates the engine from the battery negative unless you are 1) heating the glow plugs 2) cranking the engine or 3) stopping the engine.
At all other times the solenoid is in the open (disconnected) position which breaks the connection of the engine block to the battery negative.
The start and stop solenoids are found at the starter and fuel pump respectively.  If similar to the 110HP Yanmar. The stop solenoid is integral to the fuel pump.  You will see a wire going to it at the fuel pump.
Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:56 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Mark, but do you have a picture of the stop fuel solenoid, or know how to access it? Do you have to remove the fuel pump to get to it?  I would love to see a annotated photo of this stop solenoid so I knew what I was looking at, and any hints as to how to troubleshoot it.


Derick
SM2K#400 Brava


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Craig Briggs
 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <francesringley@...> wrote :
Thanks Craig. Would a filter wrench work?
__________________________________________
Ian, 
Most filter wrenches I've seen/owned are a pretty light-weight, especially the ones that open up, which you'll need, but you could give it a try if you're willing to possibly destroy it. 
A proper chain wrench, though, will stand up to the substantial torque you'll need to apply if the bow thruster tube is really stuck inside the motor collar.  Afterwards you can use it in the galley for stuck peanut butter jar lids :-)
Cheers,
Craig, s/v Sangaris, SN#68


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Rick,

Be sure that the orientation of this sensor is such that debris does not accumulate in the area of the sensor that you cleaned. Its orientation should be that debris fall down rather than falling into.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:21 AM, rickgrimes1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Eric. Did exactly as you suggested. The sensor was completely filled with rust except for a pinhole into which some water entered. Steve Davis ("Aloha") came over and removed it, cleaned it, Dremeled off the corrosion, put it back on, and started the generator. Seems to work perfectly now though I'm soon going to buy an extra sensor. Thanks for your advice! Spot on!

Rick and Linda Grimes
"Rascal" SM2K (#404)
Sun Bay Marina
Fajardo, PR



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I have not followed all of this thread, but...I what to make sure that you know that the white plastic-like Delrin hub that the prop is screwed to will not remove until you remove the propeller from the hub. There is a stainless steel pin through the propeller, hub and shaft that secures the hub to the shaft. You may not be aware of this. Please take caution that you are NOT trying to press-off the white hub before removing the propeller, then the pin.

Best,

Bill
BeBe 387

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 1:46 AM, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Craig. Would a filter wrench work?


Anyone near the Abacos with an AMEL thruster removal tool like Derick mentions?



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

eric freedman
 

Wow,

Thanks I always bought them from Amel- since they were metric.

Called curtain track sliders.

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-SILENT-GLISS-CURTAIN-TRACK-GLIDERS-3533-runners-eyes-hooks-/361071070467?hash=item5411834d03:m:myxGs2cJ34GwvJrPbtD2BQA

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

 

 

eBay or Amazon by the 100s and very cheap


On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:44, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

eric freedman
 

Rick,

Check the sensor on the exhaust( back of the engine}. Mine came apart. If the engine exhaust overheated I would never have known it.

 

I keep spares for all senders , gaskets, alternators, starters, fuel injectors, radiator caps, pumps, impellers, filters

Custom hoses, and more for both the engine and generator.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

Ps you can buy some knurled brass bolts from McMaster Carr and replace the bolts on the yanmar raw  water pump.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

 

 

Eric. Did exactly as you suggested. The sensor was completely filled with rust except for a pinhole into which some water entered. Steve Davis ("Aloha") came over and removed it, cleaned it, Dremeled off the corrosion, put it back on, and started the generator. Seems to work perfectly now though I'm soon going to buy an extra sensor. Thanks for your advice! Spot on!

Rick and Linda Grimes
"Rascal" SM2K (#404)
Sun Bay Marina
Fajardo, PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

eric freedman
 

How about a gear puller?

Or using a few wood wedges between the prop and the body of the bowthruster- avoid the nylon wheel inside the prop hub.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 3:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

 

 

The prop can't be removed in the water unfortunately. Not all of the nylon bolts sheared off and all I am left with is a prop centre and no blades. I have removed four of the bolts, two were sheared off and the two that remain are badly mangled to the point where they can't be worked in the water. So before I decide to haul the boat, I was looking for anyone who may have experienced a stuck shaft or have any suggestions. So yes, heat is an option. Thanks.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

tango708@...
 

Interesting back story!

Will Stout
Anni Bea True
SM180
St Martin, FWI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

rickgrimes1@...
 

Eric. Did exactly as you suggested. The sensor was completely filled with rust except for a pinhole into which some water entered. Steve Davis ("Aloha") came over and removed it, cleaned it, Dremeled off the corrosion, put it back on, and started the generator. Seems to work perfectly now though I'm soon going to buy an extra sensor. Thanks for your advice! Spot on!

Rick and Linda Grimes
"Rascal" SM2K (#404)
Sun Bay Marina
Fajardo, PR


Re: Yanmar Engine issue

rickgrimes1@...
 

Problem solved! Thanks all for your thoughts and ideas on dealing with the air leak somewhere around my Yanmar engine that prevented the proper flow of raw water.  With the advice and help of Steve Davis ("Aloha"), I went first to the most likely place ("Are you sure the O ring is properly seated in the impeller housing?" asked Gary Silver).  When I last changed the impeller in the middle of the North Atlantic last November, I neglected to also check and change out the O ring.  When I pulled the cover of the housing, it was fairly corroded so I cleaned it up, lightly sanded the surface, and replaced with a new O ring. 

Further, while reading the instructions for the use of the "Speed Seal" cover (installed by the previous owner), I saw that I was supposed to have a white plastic washer underneath a metal washer--both--not one or the other. The plastic washer was missing and found later on the floor underneath the engine.  Also the inside of the Speed Seal cover was pretty worn.  Thus, I decided to replace the speed seal with the original cover (happily left among spare parts by the previous owner). 

Though the impeller was in good shape, I went ahead and changed it out and then put everything back together. During this process, of course, all the water had drained from all the hoses and the pump. So the real test (to see if the impeller housing and cover was the source of the air leak) was to start the engine and see if it self-primed--and it did! Works like new now. 

All that said there were several thoughts on other potential sources of the air leak and while, so far, it seems to be the impeller housing, I will next check all those areas to ensure they are and remain healthy (e.g., the boot area mentioned by Bill Rouse and other areas where I'm likely to spring a leak).    

I posted some photos here:

http://www.rickgrimes1.com/amel-links.html


Rick and Linda Grimes

"Rascal" SM2K (#404)

Sun Bay Marina, Fajardo, PR


 


Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Derick Gates
 

Thanks Mark, but do you have a picture of the stop fuel solenoid, or know how to access it? Do you have to remove the fuel pump to get to it?  I would love to see a annotated photo of this stop solenoid so I knew what I was looking at, and any hints as to how to troubleshoot it.

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava